I am relatively new to the whole android thing but after having acquired my Vibrant, when it first came out, i have grown tired of how slow it is due to samsungs cancerous coding. This makes me even more displeased when i see how fast my brothers Nexus One is compared to my phone. So i am wondering if the Nexus S would be an upgrade to my vibrant or if it still suffers from samsungs cancer.
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I went from a vibrant to a sns and its somewhat of a lateral move. Yeah sns is pure google, has ffc, flash etc....but I did like my vibrant, gf just wanted it more than me.
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Having owned both the nexus one and now the nexus s, the nexus s is just as quick. I believe Samsung's main issue is the filesystem (rfs if I recall correctly) they chose to use. This is not an issue with the nexus s as it uses ext4, an improvement over even the nexus one which was still using yaffs.
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I went from a Vibrant to a Nexus S.
Nexus S pros: Gingerbread. Front camera. Near field thing. LED flash.
Vibrant pros: HD video recording. Expandable SD.
Things I have discovered I never use: front camera, near field thing, LED flash.
Things I do use and wish I had: HD video recording, expandable SD.
Is Nexus S worth it just to have Gingerbread? I don't know. Gingerbread's awesome, but if you have an Android phone, you're just going to root it and hack it and apply a new launcher, anyway, so does it really matter what it ships with? Thanks to amazing devs, it seems like it's pretty much all hackable.
If the Galaxy S 4G ran stock gingerbread, it would be a perfect phone.
Don't get me wrong. The Nexus S is nice. I'll keep using it for a while. But I already have my sights on the Incredible S.
willentrekin said:
I went from a Vibrant to a Nexus S.
Nexus S pros: Gingerbread. Front camera. Near field thing. LED flash.
Vibrant pros: HD video recording. Expandable SD.
Things I have discovered I never use: front camera, near field thing, LED flash.
Things I do use and wish I had: HD video recording, expandable SD.
Is Nexus S worth it just to have Gingerbread? I don't know. Gingerbread's awesome, but if you have an Android phone, you're just going to root it and hack it and apply a new launcher, anyway, so does it really matter what it ships with? Thanks to amazing devs, it seems like it's pretty much all hackable.
If the Galaxy S 4G ran stock gingerbread, it would be a perfect phone.
Don't get me wrong. The Nexus S is nice. I'll keep using it for a while. But I already have my sights on the Incredible S.
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Thanks!
I must admit that besides using the Flash as a flashlight and its "cool factor" i really dont care about it nor would i use it.
And then the front camera i have considered just modding onto my existing vibrant.
The near field thing i will never use and with our amazing devs the Vibrant is bound to get Gingerbread sooner rather then latter.
BUT the thing i really care about is its system speed and if it has, as our devs put it, "samsungs cancer code" in it, because after all the shiny new addons the OS speed is really my determining factor.
Who know, maybe just switching off Launcher pro will alleviate my lag.
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Is Nexus S worth it just to have Gingerbread? I don't know. Gingerbread's awesome, but if you have an Android phone, you're just going to root it and hack it and apply a new launcher, anyway, so does it really matter what it ships with? Thanks to amazing devs, it seems like it's pretty much all hackable.
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it does.. the kernels have to be open-sourced to expand development
kernels most likely get open-sourced after the OTA has been released.
and we all know how OTAs go for manufacturers
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it does.. the kernels have to be open-sourced to expand development
kernels most likely get open-sourced after the OTA has been released.
and we all know how OTAs go for manufacturers
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Hadn't known that. I'm new to Mods and such.
I will note, I rooted my Vibrant and applied the lagfix and etc., and then it was fine. Before that, it sucked.
And I admit, I honestly don't even know what a kernel is. I just put cyanogen mod on my Nexus, and I don't see much difference between it and stock. All of which I mention for perspective on my comments.
The Galaxy S4G might be more worthwhile than the Vibrant. At least the GS4G runs froyo, right?
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Hadn't known that. I'm new to Mods and such.
I will note, I rooted my Vibrant and applied the lagfix and etc., and then it was fine. Before that, it sucked.
And I admit, I honestly don't even know what a kernel is. I just put cyanogen mod on my Nexus, and I don't see much difference between it and stock. All of which I mention for perspective on my comments.
The Galaxy S4G might be more worthwhile than the Vibrant. At least the GS4G runs froyo, right?
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CyanogenMod is using the stock kernel.. lol, if you want to see the differences of kernels. Try out Netarchy's 1.2.4 or Trinity, I personally use Netarchy. I dislike morfic's boot screens added ontop.
Voodoo sound and Voodoo color are amazing (they're features in kernels) you need the app to control them as well.
Vibrant & Galaxy 4G both run Froyo. Vibrant has official 4G + source released for it now, but it took way too long imo.
If ur gonna try netarchy, make sure its CM7 compatiable (it says it on download link). CFS or BFS, either shouldn't disappoint.
Bronk93 said:
I went from a vibrant to a sns and its somewhat of a lateral move. Yeah sns is pure google, has ffc, flash etc....but I did like my vibrant, gf just wanted it more than me.
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x2. the only thing i truly miss from the vibrant was the extra storage space. i had 14gigs of internal space and i also added another class 4 32 gb external sd card. i know some people don't use a lot of space but i do (movies and music and a ton of nandroid backups).
I just switched 2 days ago and so far I'm really happy. I sold my Vibrant to a friend and was able to get a Nexus for a price that didn't hurt too bad.
I have to admit that I was hesitant at first. I dislike how Samsung has handled the SGS line and was loathe to reward them by purchasing another one of their products. But after playing with the Nexus for a while I caved. Its the phone I wish the Vibrant had been on the first place. No RFS, no TouchWiz......Never going back to a non-stock Android phone again.
Performance wise it feels noticeably faster than the Vibrant. The build quality is better too. My Vibrant used to creak a little, but not this. I have made a few video calls and though I probably wont use it often it is nice to have the option. I love having a camera flash; I'm often out with friends at night. NFC should take off this year but right now I can't really say anything about it.
Mostly I bought it because the other phones ive seen coming out this year don't impress me too much. Dual core is awesome but until the software support is there it isn't going to do much. Guaranteed updates and CM support are great also. The 4 inch SAMOLED screen hits the sweet spot in my book as well.
Just remember, either way you'll have a nice phone. I enjoyed my Vibrant but at the end it just wasn't what I had hoped for. Good luck.
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ryan562 said:
x2. the only thing i truly miss from the vibrant was the extra storage space. i had 14gigs of internal space and i also added another class 4 32 gb external sd card. i know some people don't use a lot of space but i do (movies and music and a ton of nandroid backups).
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Only thing I miss is video codecs. 720p playback lags on RockPlayer
RockPlayer handles everything else pretty well.
Overall, my opinion is that Nexus S > Vibrant. Wish it had SD though, not a deal breaker for me though.
Was just sick of the lack of CM7 support for SGS and constantly using lagfixes and unapplying them to flahs a new ROM.
I went from a vibrant to a sns and its somewhat of a lateral move. Yeah sns is pure google, has ffc, flash etc....but I did like my vibrant, gf just wanted it more than me.
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P.S. don't call the Nexus S a SNS. Its NS. They didnt call the 'Nexus One' HN1/HNO (HTC Nexus One).
You should wait for the HTC Pyramid. It will be out in first half this year and it is going blow both away.
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You should wait for the HTC Pyramid. It will be out in first half this year and it is going blow both away.
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Pyramid doesn't features Tegra 2. With a phone using tetra 2, you'll have access go tegra 2 zone.
Plus, its rumored that quad core phones will come out at the end of this year or early next.
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I agree with the lateral move. I like the hardware on the NS better than the Vibrant as I'm not into hardware modifications. I do prefer touchwiz apps to stock Google apps. I also prefer video codecs and 720p video recording over not having them either.
What I can tell you is that in terms of speed there are only a few things where I've noticed the Nexus is actually faster at, a quadrant benchmark because of jit, and usb connection speed. Side by side the tasks are almost identical, so much so that I can't tell the difference. My Nexus is running CM7 RC build #2 overclocked to 1.2Ghz and my Vibrant is running Bionix-V 1.2.1 with no overclock.
I have the luxury of being able to use either one whenever I want, so if I know I'm going to take a video I'm taking the Vibrant, and if I'm going on a trip and want to watch some movies on a plane ride I'm taking the Vibrant...every day use the Nexus is fine but it isn't an upgrade by any means.
In the end it's your choice so make sure if you do make the choice to change phones that you can live with it at least until someone makes some nice software modifications.
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You should wait for the HTC Pyramid. It will be out in first half this year and it is going blow both away.
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+1
If leaked specs are correct, this phone should be a killer......
ps. as i said this many times before....Team Wiskey Vibrant > SNS > stock Vibrant
Vibrant has much more then just HD playback and HD recording.....3.0 Bluetooth, TV-out, Gorilla Glass, SD-slot, many extra/cool features of Touchwiz (music player, all-share, camera, better sms and email clients), support for car and home docks, etc....i am probably missing something. And with TW ROM you cant even tell it apart from SNS running Gingerbread...
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+1
If leaked specs are correct, this phone should be a killer......
ps. as i said this many times before....Team Wiskey Vibrant > SNS > stock Vibrant
Vibrant has much more then just HD playback and HD recording.....TV-out, Gorilla Glass, many extra/cool features of Touchwiz (music player, all-share, camera, better sms and email clients), support for car and home docks, etc....i am probably missing something. And with TW ROM you cant even tell it apart from SNS running Gingerbread...
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Lots of biased statements there. Coming from a Guy who is from team whiskey.
You can paint something to look like something else but it's still Froyo. Not to mention the vibrant is using RFS filesystem that requires lagfixes.
With the Nexus S, Google releases source for kernels almost immediately which is a huge plus for Nexus S development. Whereas the vibrant kernels are based off I9000 kernels which result in poor battery life.
Waiting for Samsung to release source is mindblogging and I'm sure a lot of people who went from a vibrant to a nexus s would agree with me.
Basing roms off otas < basing roms off AOSP source.
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If video playback of anything you can throw at it is important, or large amounts of removable sdcard storage, or even 720p recording, then the Vibrant is the clear choice. There are a significant number of media-related activities the Nexus S can't do, that the Vibrant can.
If a more solid build, with a sexier to look at and easier to hold in the hand shape, with the alleged promise of getting newer versions of Android first are important, then the Nexus S is the choice.
OP - you can easily vastly improve the Vibrant's performance with any of the custom ROMs are kernels that implement the voodoo hacks.
I've called the move from any of the existing Galaxy S variants to the Nexus S a "side-grade", it's definitely not a major "upgrade" unless you'll never run root or custom kernels (to fix the infamous "lag" of Samsung's RFS filesystem).
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Lots of biased statements there. Coming from a Guy who is from team whiskey.
You can paint something to look like something else but it's still Froyo. Not to mention the vibrant is using RFS filesystem that requires lagfixes.
With the Nexus S, Google releases source for kernels almost immediately which is a huge plus for Nexus S development. Whereas the vibrant kernels are based off I9000 kernels which result in poor battery life.
Waiting for Samsung to release source is mindblogging and I'm sure a lot of people who went from a vibrant to a nexus s would agree with me.
Basing roms off otas < basing roms off AOSP source.
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I am not a dev, but i am pretty positive that Vibrant with TW uses VIBRANT kernel, not i9000.....shouldn't you know this being from Team Wiskey ?
dont have poor battery life......after several cycles with new ROM, I am back to my usual which is 12-14 hours of use. RFS doesn't bother me anymore thanks to Voodoo. And as far as 2.3 vs 2.2 goes......its just a minor upgrade, not as big as 2.1 to 2.2.
at this point SNS is history already......its very clear that the phone was released to make quick cash....not much longer wait for S-II, LG 2X, and Pyramid....
development-wise points go to SNS......
kolyan said:
+1
If leaked specs are correct, this phone should be a killer......
ps. as i said this many times before....Team Wiskey Vibrant > SNS > stock Vibrant
Vibrant has much more then just HD playback and HD recording.....3.0 Bluetooth, TV-out, Gorilla Glass, SD-slot, many extra/cool features of Touchwiz (music player, all-share, camera, better sms and email clients), support for car and home docks, etc....i am probably missing something. And with TW ROM you cant even tell it apart from SNS running Gingerbread...
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Agreed, not even really a contest unless your just a blind fanboi like most people in this section.
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With the Nexus S, Google releases source for kernels almost immediately which is a huge plus for Nexus S development. Whereas the vibrant kernels are based off I9000 kernels which result in poor battery life.
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Vibrant source was released days ago and there are already three OC kernels out built from source.
I would say if you want to break it down, the NS is better as a pure phone/smartphone, whereas the SGS is a better media device. I would not sell my Vibrant because it's like an Android-based iPod Touch (but better).
Hi All,
Have both a Cpativate and a Nexus S and was curious that on the captivate when playing a movie i have the option of enabling 5.1srs but the Nexus S does not have this option.
Does Nexus S support 5.1srs? Are you suppose to somehow enable it?
No.
-Nexus S
I don't get it...isn't the Galaxy S and the NS essentially the same phone? The Captivate even does higher res video recording and now the 5.1SRS. Aside from the pure google and fast update isn't the Captivate a better phone?
Sorry for the noob questions, new to Android and just had my NS for like a week.
I could support it. But lacks all the great codecs of the galaxy s phones
I'd disagree with the Captivate being a better phone. ATT locks it down so badly that you have to use the Sideload Wonder Machine to even install non-Market Apps. That, the lack of pure Google, the relative lack of ROM support currently, the lack of a front-camera, and more...
As for the 5.1SRS, that's simply a virtual sound plugin it's running. Someone could port it to the Nexus S, but I doubt anyone feels like it. IMO, some of the stuff they include with phones nowadays is useless. I'm sure you may disagree though, which is fine.
ya, lots of codecs are included in touchwiz that arent included in stock android,
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I'd disagree with the Captivate being a better phone. ATT locks it down so badly that you have to use the Sideload Wonder Machine to even install non-Market Apps. That, the lack of pure Google, the relative lack of ROM support currently, the lack of a front-camera, and more...
As for the 5.1SRS, that's simply a virtual sound plugin it's running. Someone could port it to the Nexus S, but I doubt anyone feels like it. IMO, some of the stuff they include with phones nowadays is useless. I'm sure you may disagree though, which is fine.
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I agree 100% as i gave my Captivate to my wife and now using the NS. I love the phone but was just curious. I don't know how to root or flash roms so having the NS I am always garanteed the latest and greatest from Google. A bit of a learning curve as I have been using the iPhone(iPhone4) but eventually got bored of it. tried many Androids in the pass but went back to the iPhone4 but the NS was the first phone I was satisfied with. Loving Android!
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I could support it. But lacks all the great codecs of the galaxy s phones
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it's exactly due all the missing codecs, and other paid apps & services included with the samsung platform
Hi,
I have Galaxy S, but since GPS is one of most important features for me, I want to replace it with Nexus S.
Can you please tell me what are known problems with Nexus S (like filesystem lag and GPS on Galaxy S for example)? Is GPS on Nexus S better than on Galaxy S (what about lag without rooting/flashing)? Does VOIP (Skype, etc.) work as expected (on Atrix that is problem, so reason I avoid it).
And finally what Android phone you recommend which has GPS working perfectly, has screen 4.0+ inch screen (800x480 or more), VOIP working, no other serious issues?
I mean basically there is no phone which has everything working with above specs
Thanks in advance
Samsung just made the phone which may seem to be similar to it but its definitely not a galaxy s phone the lag will depend on the apps you'd install and run, If rooted with voodoo stock kernel you'll get amazing battery life and performance must be very selective with custom roms since not all of them are 100% stable GPS works just perfect if kept stock, some Roms affect its performance, pure Google, less bloat more current updates doesn't need 4g's to compete with new devices its simple and fast.
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I agree that GPS works 100%. The only lag I've noticed is the browser when you're on a heavily flash content site. This phone is definitely fast though. I had a Vibrant 3g and I know just what you mean. This phone would be a great replacement.
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I'm using a Galaxy S I9000 too and am damn fed up with the lag problem. I also can't get the three button recovery mode to work and so have refrained from flashing kernels ... I'm not really good with hacking stuff. So like borgdrone7, I'm curious whether the Nexus S is a significant enough improvement assuming it is running on the stock android that comes pre-installed.
From what I've read, it sounds like a worthy upgrade.
Is there any 3rd Party camera apps that work as good as the stock app for the GS7 but with better HDR? I was looking at the play store but there's hundreds of apps and I don't know what really works good these days. I have tried other apps in the past on other phones but never got used to them or liked them. What are others using?
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Is there any 3rd Party camera apps that work as good as the stock app for the GS7 but with better HDR? I was looking at the play store but there's hundreds of apps and I don't know what really works good these days. I have tried other apps in the past on other phones but never got used to them or liked them. What are others using?
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I also tried a lot of camera apps (Note 4 + SGS 7 Edge), but in my opinion no 3rd party app can ever match the picture quality of the stock camera.
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I also tried a lot of camera apps (Note 4 + SGS 7 Edge), but in my opinion no 3rd party app can ever match the picture quality of the stock camera.
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plus i haven't found a 3rd party camera android or ios that will let you take pictures while recording video like the stock cameras do nowadays.
Always found stock to be best, even with my S5
One of the reasons I didn't stick with custom ROMs for long
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Always found stock to be best, even with my S5
One of the reasons I didn't stick with custom ROMs for long
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So getting the Google Pixel probably isn't the best thing to do then if one wants a better camera then googles "simple" camera. I prefer getting a good phone with a good stock camera from experience with other phones, moto Razer HD and HTC One M7.
after reading and watching tons of reviews and reading forums, so far the GS7 is about the best phone for me at this time overall. I guess i'll stick with it till the next best thing next year. Now if i can get a camera app that does HDR as good as the Pixel.
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So getting the Google Pixel probably isn't the best thing to do then if one wants a better camera then googles "simple" camera. I prefer getting a good phone with a good stock camera from experience with other phones, moto Razer HD and HTC One M7.
after reading and watching tons of reviews and reading forums, so far the GS7 is about the best phone for me at this time overall. I guess i'll stick with it till the next best thing next year. Now if i can get a camera app that does HDR as good as the Pixel.
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The Google Pixel camera will be optimised to it's own camera app, afaik reason stock camera app for the Galaxy phones is best, is down to the camera drivers and algorithms it uses, other camera apps can't produce the same quality
Especially when you are not running a TW ROM (as experienced with Galaxy S5)
Using the Galaxy stock camera app on a Google pixel probably wouldn't look great either
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Is there any 3rd Party camera apps that work as good as the stock app for the GS7 but with better HDR? I was looking at the play store but there's hundreds of apps and I don't know what really works good these days. I have tried other apps in the past on other phones but never got used to them or liked them. What are others using?
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Why dont u use snapspeed app to alter HDR and other settings but the galaxy camera app is best
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plus i haven't found a 3rd party camera android or ios that will let you take pictures while recording video like the stock cameras do nowadays.
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I was looking for a app that rivals the burst mode of the S7 at full resolution and speed. I have found nothing yet in the play store. Wish there was a way to keep the stock camera on. It cuts off after about 2mins on it's own if you don't touch the screen.
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Why dont u use snapspeed app to alter HDR and other settings but the galaxy camera app is best
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I do use Snapseed when i want something edited in a hurry before copying everything to the computer and editing with photoshop. i find it tedious editing on the phone though and when i have thousands of pictures to go through. it's easier on a real desktop monitor to see how good things look to know if i want to delete or not. I love Snapseed but like any other app on the phone they don't have an option to resize the resolution. i copy the originals to the computer for eventual burning off and pick favorites to edit and copy back to the phone.