question on lag? - Verizon Droid Charge

do this phone have a small lag or has anyone notice a lag right when they got their phone from the store? i come from a Samsung epic and the epic didn't have a lag even with all the bloatware that was install to it, i haven't done anything to mine i haven't even rooted, how can i troubleshoot my stock charge ?

Be more specific, we don't know what "lag" you're referring too. Home page being choppy? Download speeds? Browser being choppy?

when i had got mine and had it stock it was kind off laggy. TW was laggy as well as the notification bar. I rooted and flashed eclipse 1.3.1 and peanut butta jelly time and now have noooo lag what so ever. i highly suggest you try eclipse 1.3.1
i have used every froyo rom and eclipse 1.3.1 is def. the best. also enable voodoo lagfix if u decide to root and flash roms and kernels

Mine had lag right out the box. Not swiping between home screens or anything but when opening Apps like messenging and stuff. It wasn't terrible but I noticed. That has since gone since flashing gummycharged.
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I had lag too when I was in stock. I still get lag every now and again with gummycharged but its not as bad. I'm thinking about trying eclipse
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EE4 Impressions! :)

decided to hard reset gf's stock unrooted droid charge and received the EE4 update
and yes!!!!
browser lag is gone! even with stock browser, i can play music in background, have wordfeud running and browse full flash sites with desktop view with no lag
4G signal is also improved!
now im just waiting for devs to release the rooted verison
thanks Samsung!
Awesome. Good to hear.
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Definitely appreciate your impressions... it's great to see Samsung notice these problems.
Like you, I'm also waiting for a rooted version
Thanks for the impressions.
I really want this incorporated in the new gummy rom!
How is the Qaudrant score? I wonder how they fixed the browser lag? Do you think they changes the file system to EXT4 from RFS (ala Voodoo)? Maybe they put the browser on the SD card?
This is exciting
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I dont have the update yet but would also like to know if the quadrant scores improved...
I updated to EE4 this morning and the phone definitely feels faster, especially the browser. But when I ran the quadrant app the score didn't really change. I was completely stock before with the ED2 update and my score was typically around 930 and after I updated I've gotten and average of 945 after 10 runs.
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So they didn't change the file system. That seems obvious from the low quadrant score.
I wonder if it's necessary to use the voodoo lag fix with the improvements of EE4. I would like to see how the new EE4 stands up to a device with the voodoo lag fix from ED2.
anyone know of a good place to read about what exactly is in this EE4 update? Thanks
Edit## Bump. Found a good place
I installed EE4 update and the browser is much smoother than Voodoo lag fix on ED2.
So I haven't even bothered with Voodoo lag fix. The browser is nice and smooth. I think even the launcher is smoother than Voodoo lag fix in ED2.
I also wanted to report the GPS seems to be much better. Before EE4 I was not able to get a GPS lock inside my house, it would say "location unavailable". Well, coming from an HTC phone that would get 5 feet accuracy while in the middle of my living room, I was not happy. However with the EE4 it now locks in my living room with a 19 foot accuracy according to GPS test But.. the same HTC phone still locks faster and has higher signals from the same satellites, but at lest its progress!!
Quadrant scores mean nothing. If you want higher scores with the Charge just convert to ext4 using voodoo.
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Definitely impressed!!
Everything is so fast and silky smooth....... and the battery life is amazing, like twice what it was before !!!!!
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Stock roms are best?

So far in my experience with all the custom roms, ive found that the stock kd1 deodexed rom is best. Although quadrant scores arent best i can deal with this roms cpu. Like i dont see any big changes from OC'ing the phone and 1.0 ghz. And you can still do all the tweaks, butbthe theme seems more best for me. I love bionix frost, and the trigger 0.4. Theyre clean and stable. But i always have the urge to go back to stock.
Am i the only one here, or like whats the best set up with a rom?
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I agree i flashed 2.3.3 played with it about 10 mins later founx myself back to stock
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At this point, I prefer stock, as I haven't seen any themes that I really like. I would like to make something using touchwiz, but without all the bright text colors and menu icons. Not as desaturated as black ice though, something in between.
I'd build one, but I can't seem to get APK manager to work correctly. or at least I can't figure out how to point it to the correct location of the adb program in the SDK
Thanks for your agreements guys! Lol i felt like i was loner...
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I will say, I am on Black Ice, Bali v3.2 with fugi tweaks and OC 1.25 GHz, and ext 4 on data only. I notice a huge difference in respone compared without any modding. Now I will say most of that is due to the tweaks and OC and not the ROM, but I would still say a little is due to the ROM since it removes some of the bloat that comes with the stock.
Although, I will admit I added TeleNav back on since Black Ice takes it out since it is such a large app. I don't care for google map directions as much.
I'm running the stock rom + root and deodexed from whitehawkx though, so I was able to remove a ton of the bloatware, and add a few apps to tweak performance, so it has been running great for me, and I'm getting great battery life (nearly 48hrs).
I did remove telenav, only because it launches a background process that runs all the time, even when you aren't using the program.
Oh i didnt oit any tweaks on mine yet! Lol i just like the feeling of stock.
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why does go launcher keep restarting -_-

Honestly this never happened on Froyo, it started after upgrading to GB(been on the leaks since EP3). Go Launcher just keeeeeeeeeps restarting EVERY time i open ANY app. Go SMS, PowerAMP, calculator, whatever... i press home and all my home pages need to reload(app drawer too). This wouldnt be a huge problem but when the launcher crashes it makes whatever app im using slow to a CRAWL. Poweramp starts making my music skip, if im using my keyboard(Swiftkey x) then that becomes pretty much unusable. SO SLOW.
Anyone know why this is happening?
just for reference im running tweakstock1.0 + imnuts' infinity kernel + ICS fugu tweaks. no supercharger or loopy smoothness right now.
blarrick said:
Honestly this never happened on Froyo, it started after upgrading to GB(been on the leaks since EP3). Go Launcher just keeeeeeeeeps restarting EVERY time i open ANY app. Go SMS, PowerAMP, calculator, whatever... i press home and all my home pages need to reload(app drawer too). This wouldnt be a huge problem but when the launcher crashes it makes whatever app im using slow to a CRAWL. Poweramp starts making my music skip, if im using my keyboard(Swiftkey x) then that becomes pretty much unusable. SO SLOW.
Anyone know why this is happening?
just for reference im running tweakstock1.0 + imnuts' infinity kernel + ICS fugu tweaks. no supercharger or loopy smoothness right now.
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no problems here, and I almost exclusively use Go Launcher... I'm tempted to say its the fugu stuff but thats only because of my skepticism of such "tweaks"
are you using anything different? im thinking its a kernel problem(imnuts makes great kernels dont get me wrng, i mean i was using his for months before imoseyon came along). I also have my suspicions that its the fact that im not using V6 supercharger... IDK. it feels like when the phone runs out of RAM the launcher just closes, which it shouldnt since ive got that persistent memory thing checked in the preferences.
those are just my guesses since weve clearly eliminated the GB incompatibility.
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are you using anything different? im thinking its a kernel problem(imnuts makes great kernels dont get me wrng, i mean i was using his for months before imoseyon came along). I also have my suspicions that its the fact that im not using V6 supercharger... IDK. it feels like when the phone runs out of RAM the launcher just closes, which it shouldnt since ive got that persistent memory thing checked in the preferences.
those are just my guesses since weve clearly eliminated the GB incompatibility.
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just 12/11 Infinity with TSM and Imoseyons 4.0.0 kernel, no extra anything... the only issue I've noticed is like one hotboot a week but I think thats my fault since it happens when I overload the phone with too many things at once
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just 12/11 Infinity with TSM and Imoseyons 4.0.0 kernel, no extra anything... the only issue I've noticed is like one hotboot a week but I think thats my fault since it happens when I overload the phone with too many things at once
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its so weird too because rebooting fixes the problem for a while, hours even, but im lazy and dont like rebooting my phone all the time because media scanning takes a year. ill try switching kernels tomorrow. if that doesnt work then i guess ill try v6 and loopy smoothness. if that doesnt fix it then its back to the drawing board.
BTW, are you using voodoo screen tuning by chance? i always kinda had a feeling that it was causing the problems.
Android is shutting GoLauncher down to free up memory. There is a setting in GoLauncher to mark it as 'system persistent', but i'm not sure that always works.
On DroidForums I found this, which has worked well for me:
In Terminal Emulator type: su
Then type: echo ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=1 >> /data/local.prop
Now reboot into recovery and clear your cache only and then boot up​
I always had launcher redraws on FroYo and rarely on GB. But to fix this you can use v6 supercharger and apply hard to kill launcher.
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blarrick said:
its so weird too because rebooting fixes the problem for a while, hours even, but im lazy and dont like rebooting my phone all the time because media scanning takes a year. ill try switching kernels tomorrow. if that doesnt work then i guess ill try v6 and loopy smoothness. if that doesnt fix it then its back to the drawing board.
BTW, are you using voodoo screen tuning by chance? i always kinda had a feeling that it was causing the problems.
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sure am... also I do not have Go locked in memory nor am I using any tweaks and very rarely have any issues
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Either supercharge or do loopy smoothness. For the record, I have no issues with ADW.
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Either supercharge or do loopy smoothness. For the record, I have no issues with ADW.
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Strange, I had adw and had major redraw issues. Switched to go and it works flawless!
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Strange, I had adw and had major redraw issues. Switched to go and it works flawless!
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Same here, i switched to GO after having insane restart issues with ADW and go was working perfect. I applied V6 and it seems to have stopped the issue and im finally able to have a functional phone but it might have just been due to the fact that i rebooted the phone after applying the supercharger, because it was lagging like crazy before i rebooted.
We'll see soon enough...
I have found that on infinity just having the tw4 apk causes me issues. Not only replacing the launcher with adw ex but I also deleted the touchwiz launcher from /system/app.
Seems odd but I hated the newest infinity until I did that and now its faster and smoother than any other rom I ran yet. Dont know much about the tweak rom but could be worth a shot if it's there.
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Another vote for freezing/removing TW4 launcher. My phone has run better since I froze the TW launcher.
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Two things: one, putting lots of apps on SD has been known to cause redraws. If you move apps back to the phone, particularly ones that you have home screen shortcuts for, that generally helps a lot. Keep in mind that some apps install to SD by default, and even if you didn't move them there yourself you can move them back.
Second: the "persistent" checkbox doesn't reliably work in Gingerbread due to Android task manager changes. The Charge's unfortunately paltry amount of RAM is the biggest issue and there's not a whole lot you can do about that. You can only try to reduce the number of apps installed that run in the background without reason and force the task manager to start closing stuff. Get an app like Watchdog from the Market, and check to see what's running right after a reboot. You'll probably be surprised at some of the apps that do without any good reason.

Bamf forever 1.11 or skyraiders zues bolt 1.3

Currently running bamf forever 1.11 but i have to pull battery once a day to get rid of lag. I love bamf forever if it didn't lag if anyone knows a fix other than o/c I have done that then msg me. If anyone has tried skyraiders and knows more please let me know. I greatly appreciate it
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Back up what you have, then flash Zeus. I'm using It now and its great.
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Why don't you just restart it rather then pull the battery daily?
Restarts do no fix the lag issue.
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I know how you feel...Bamf11 would be the perfect rom if not for the insufferable lag. It wears on you. I ran it with IMO kernel oc to 1.4 but it was still laggy. Bamf kernel jammed up my phone.
I think some of the earlier versions have less lags but then you are replacing the lag with some bug. I feel like the developer needed just one more update to speed up an otherwise flawless rom.
I havent tried skyraider yet. I dont like any of the mr4 roms because of various bugs.
My favorite rom is thundershed because it flies but sometimes I miss some of the sense functions...but I dont miss the lag.
Sometimes old roms ARE better than new roms. I prefer mr2 to mr4.
4 hours on infectedrom eternity nightlies and so far loving it super fast will flash zues tomorrow night and try that one also. Thanksfor all replies
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Fastest rom? I just want no redraws and lag, always had this problem!

I did the 5 steps to make phone snappier and I noticed that my phone is now faster I used to always gey redraws rather frequently, but I still get redraws, enough to still bother me. Advice on how to be faster? I am on stock FP1 rooted using twl.launcher as my main launcher and would like to keep this setup. I am willing to switch roms or anything, all I want is zero redraws, really hate it
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ohhshiet said:
I did the 5 steps to make phone snappier and I noticed that my phone is now faster I used to always gey redraws rather frequently, but I still get redraws, enough to still bother me. Advice on how to be faster? I am on stock FP1 rooted using twl.launcher as my main launcher and would like to keep this setup. I am willing to switch roms or anything, all I want is zero redraws, really hate it
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edit the line in the build.prop to lock in the home screen (set it =1).
been there done that...no avail.. thought it was just gingerbread ..then fp1 came i got excited..worked better for a while, then back to the same this..came across that 5 steps, did that, did the build.prop .. still feels laggy sometimes..has gotten better i might add, but enough to make me feel like i should switch phones
Jellybean is the only thing that going to get you to a point where you can reasonably get "no lag." Even the newer dual-core phones on ICS get laggy from time to time, and it's worse on this phone. The best you're going to do on this phone is mitigate it.
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Jellybean is the only thing that going to get you to a point where you can reasonably get "no lag." Even the newer dual-core phones on ICS get laggy from time to time, and it's worse on this phone. The best you're going to do on this phone is mitigate it.
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right.
but I really do not have an lag or redraw issues. part of the trouble shooting is to reduce the number of apps on your phone and on the screen. I place all of my apps in folders and thus have no redraw issues since. some launchers like GO and HOLO help too.
Ehm...I never get redraws unless I restart the launcher manually. Use V6 Supercharger.
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I always use v6 tried other stuff but this phone just likes v6. No lag here. Everything just works.
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I've never really gotten v6 to work on fp1 but I have no redraws at all but if you have followed my 5 steps you should have no problems. If you use go launcher or holo there is a setting for "keep in memory" that works really well with the build.prop edit
p2kmafia said:
I've never really gotten v6 to work on fp1 but I have no redraws at all but if you have followed my 5 steps you should have no problems. If you use go launcher or holo there is a setting for "keep in memory" that works really well with the build.prop edit
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V6 "works" on FP1 in that it applies successfully, but I've never run V6 on this phone that it didn't run like complete crap after a few days. I've played with recent versions of the V6 script and found them to be even worse for me than the older versions. I know kvswim says he has no issues, but it kills my performance worse than anything else I've ever done.
Yeah, it's really odd that it works perfectly fine for some and just makes things worse for others.
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kvswim said:
Yeah, it's really odd that it works perfectly fine for some and just makes things worse for others.
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I can imagine it being down to the use case. The script changes OOM groupings of apps which causes them to be killed in a different order than default. Regardless of how Zep advertises it, that's probably not a one size fits all proposition. I know I strongly disagree with the logic of some of the ICS regroupings that he seems quite proud of.
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