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G Tablet coming tomorrow...would like to get some things set straight. Thanks.

Hey all,
I'm getting my G Tablet tomorrow and I'd just like to get some things clarified.
I know, the first thing some will say is USE SEARCH! Well, I did - and that's actually why I just want to get some things straight before I go down the path of modifying the device software. See, reading it all has managed to confuse me more than help me get a definitive instruction set for forging ahead.
I'm seeing the update "****s on CWM" according to a user...and then a 'fix' for that. Than I see that Gapps causes FCs for some, while it works for others. So...yeah, a little back and forth on what to do and who's instructions to follow.
Alright, so first thing's first....Should I flash the Clockwork Mod that I'm seeing available - 0.8? or is there something else I should consider or that I've missed? or maybe wait for a newer version? Should I even flash CWM if I get the newest (and I WILL be getting the newest) S/W version? Are there any downsides at all to flashing CWM on there in terms of messing with OTA updates, etc?
I read this:
"All the ROMS use a standard firmware updater that can be used by non-technical users. Here is an explanation on how it works:...."
Sooo, does that mean I can live without CWM? If an update doesn't work for some reason, will I be able to fix it or overwrite it somehow if I can't get into the tablet at all from the tablet itself? I read something about going into APX mode and putting things on through Windows, is this an infallible method?
Second of all, I read the FAQ thoroughly (I think and hope) but I'm still not 100% on what Gapps to DL or how to put a working Android Market on there especially with this new S/W update. I've seen how to 'fix' the Market to see missing apps, but not how to actually install it on the G Tablet. I may have missed that post somewhere on here.
I'm also unclear if I should get Gapps or not at all, as I've read that some have FCs on there while others do not - so what's the general consensus in light of this update that was just released as of Dec. 21, 2010?
Ultimately, here is what I'd like from my GTab:
I'd like to run the new official Tapn'Tap released recently first and foremost.
I'd like to have the official/unofficial (w/e) Google Market.
I'd like to run Google Apps (Gtalk, Gmail, etc.).
IF I don't like Tapn'Tap, and this is a worse case scenario situation, as in if I HATE TnT - I'd like to have the option to slap something else on there and I'd like to make sure I don't brick my Tablet. Whether that means storing an original official TnT ROM or whatever.
Point me in the right direction please, especially considering things may have changed as of the new S/W update.
Thanks much and sorry for all the questions. I assure you I used search and I attempted to put it together on my own. It's been a long time since I've modded (G1 was the last time) and I don't do it often. Also, apologies if I posted this in the wrong section....I considered posting it in Dev. section but this one seemed better suited.
Thanks again, XDA rocks.

Neoprimal said:
Hey all,
I'm getting my G Tablet tomorrow and I'd just like to get some things clarified.
I know, the first thing some will say is USE SEARCH! Well, I did - and that's actually why I just want to get some things straight before I go down the path of modifying the device software. See, reading it all has managed to confuse me more than help me get a definitive instruction set for forging ahead.
I'm seeing the update "****s on CWM" according to a user...and then a 'fix' for that. Than I see that Gapps causes FCs for some, while it works for others. So...yeah, a little back and forth on what to do and who's instructions to follow.
Alright, so first thing's first....Should I flash the Clockwork Mod that I'm seeing available - 0.8? or is there something else I should consider or that I've missed? or maybe wait for a newer version? Should I even flash CWM if I get the newest (and I WILL be getting the newest) S/W version? Are there any downsides at all to flashing CWM on there in terms of messing with OTA updates, etc?
I read this:
"All the ROMS use a standard firmware updater that can be used by non-technical users. Here is an explanation on how it works:...."
Sooo, does that mean I can live without CWM? If an update doesn't work for some reason, will I be able to fix it or overwrite it somehow if I can't get into the tablet at all from the tablet itself? I read something about going into APX mode and putting things on through Windows, is this an infallible method?
Second of all, I read the FAQ thoroughly (I think and hope) but I'm still not 100% on what Gapps to DL or how to put a working Android Market on there especially with this new S/W update. I've seen how to 'fix' the Market to see missing apps, but not how to actually install it on the G Tablet. I may have missed that post somewhere on here.
I'm also unclear if I should get Gapps or not at all, as I've read that some have FCs on there while others do not - so what's the general consensus in light of this update that was just released as of Dec. 21, 2010?
Ultimately, here is what I'd like from my GTab:
I'd like to run the new official Tapn'Tap released recently first and foremost.
I'd like to have the official/unofficial (w/e) Google Market.
I'd like to run Google Apps (Gtalk, Gmail, etc.).
IF I don't like Tapn'Tap, and this is a worse case scenario situation, as in if I HATE TnT - I'd like to have the option to slap something else on there and I'd like to make sure I don't brick my Tablet. Whether that means storing an original official TnT ROM or whatever.
Point me in the right direction please, especially considering things may have changed as of the new S/W update.
Thanks much and sorry for all the questions. I assure you I used search and I attempted to put it together on my own. It's been a long time since I've modded (G1 was the last time) and I don't do it often. Also, apologies if I posted this in the wrong section....I considered posting it in Dev. section but this one seemed better suited.
Thanks again, XDA rocks.
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I don't know how much direction pointing I can do but here goes..
Clockwork mod in my opinion is a necessity. Version 0.8 is the best one for most people because of how it deals with the memory locations. Yes, you can do things without it. The update process is as simple as putting an update.zip file, and a recovery folder with a command file in it on an sdcard and holding the vol + button while hitting power. It is easy. Clockwork has a lot of little features though that make life easier. You can make a complete system backup with it. You can install updates, and new firmware with it. You can completely lock up your tablet and using clockwork and your backup be back in business in about 3-4 minutes. You can load new roms and if you hate them you can go back to your old working stuff in minutes. Yes, there are ways to make one of these tablets work again when they get stuck. I don't think anyone has actually bricked one. Some may think they have, but I doubt it.
Unless you are dead set on wanting the stock TnT interface the easiest way to get what you want is to load one of the roms. Yes, there are ways to get most of it without loading a new rom. Most everyone that has gone the I have to stay stock but want all the mods has eventually just loaded a rom. TnT3.0 is based on the latest stock stuff. It has the market, flash, etc. already in it. VegaN is what I use mostly but they are both stable and fast.
Before you flash something brand new that just came out I would read about it and see what others have to say about issues. It usually only takes about 30 minutes until you can tell if it is going to be good or not.
All of the roms for this tablet have there own little quirks. The stock has gotten better with each update but it still is not as good as the ones I named.
Finally.. This tablet is very easy to play with. It is pretty much unbrickable. Anything you can possibly break one of us has probably already broken before and fixed. There are some people that seem to have problems doing every little thing. Most don't. So I wouldn't let any of it scare you off because none of it is that hard.
With a little bit of searching almost everything you may want it to do can be done. I really love mine, and when I got it almost 2 months ago I hated it...

"Finally.. This tablet is very easy to play with. It is pretty much unbrickable. Anything you can possibly break one of us has probably already broken before and fixed. There are some people that seem to have problems doing every little thing. Most don't. So I wouldn't let any of it scare you off because none of it is that hard."
"Sigh" of relief. Then I'm not too worried. As I said I've dabbled in modifying my G1 and it is mostly cake. But I've just been seeing conflicting posts on whether cwm works with the newest official tnt release or not so I wasn't sure what to do.
Thanks for your advice. And when I said pointers, I meant like this as well as pointing me to any posts I may have missed on how to do whatever. Though I THINK I found most of them.

Neoprimal said:
"Finally.. This tablet is very easy to play with. It is pretty much unbrickable. Anything you can possibly break one of us has probably already broken before and fixed. There are some people that seem to have problems doing every little thing. Most don't. So I wouldn't let any of it scare you off because none of it is that hard."
"Sigh" of relief. Then I'm not too worried. As I said I've dabbled in modifying my G1 and it is mostly cake. But I've just been seeing conflicting posts on whether cwm works with the newest official tnt release or not so I wasn't sure what to do.
Thanks for your advice. And when I said pointers, I meant like this as well as pointing me to any posts I may have missed on how to do whatever. Though I THINK I found most of them.
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The new release overwrites clockwork. But it is not hard to put back. Always a good idea to copy the clockwork backups folder to your pc, or somewhere they won't be lost. The custom roms typically leave the recovery image alone and can be installed with or without clockwork by either extracting the zip contents for stock recovery, or installing it as is in clockwork.

Sprdtyf350 said:
Finally.. This tablet is very easy to play with. It is pretty much unbrickable.
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I can vouch for that. Erased system, boot, data and cache in preparation for a new ROM. Accidentally rebooted and couldn't get into recovery. Booted it into APX mode, flashed stock and was on my way.

I would just run ZRoot, then upload the TnTLite 3.0 recovery and update.zip and then do the recovery mode process. You should have a microsd handy just in case it doesn't work, but so far I haven't needed that.
This tablet is much easier to work with and very forgiving since VS never took the time to lock down the bootloader etc like Motorola did with my Droid X. You really shouldn't fear changing files out etc, provided you're getting a ROM from one of the people providing them here. If you can press and hold two buttons at once, you can make your gTab an awesome little tablet. It benchmarks about 1000 points higher than my Droid X on quadrant. Can't wait to see what these guys can do with Gingerbread.

Sprdtyf350 said:
The new release overwrites clockwork. But it is not hard to put back. Always a good idea to copy the clockwork backups folder to your pc, or somewhere they won't be lost. The custom roms typically leave the recovery image alone and can be installed with or without clockwork by either extracting the zip contents for stock recovery, or installing it as is in clockwork.
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It is also not hard to alter the update so that it does not overwrite clockwork.
Open update.zip
Find updater-script, Open in notepad++
Remove the line that references recovery.img
Flash update

hogasswild said:
I would just run ZRoot, then upload the TnTLite 3.0 recovery and update.zip and then do the recovery mode process. You should have a microsd handy just in case it doesn't work, but so far I haven't needed that.
This tablet is much easier to work with and very forgiving since VS never took the time to lock down the bootloader etc like Motorola did with my Droid X. You really shouldn't fear changing files out etc, provided you're getting a ROM from one of the people providing them here. If you can press and hold two buttons at once, you can make your gTab an awesome little tablet. It benchmarks about 1000 points higher than my Droid X on quadrant. Can't wait to see what these guys can do with Gingerbread.
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with the new update however does the z4root still work? i heard it may not anymore. just curious also since im hopefully getting mine on sat for xmas

rothnic said:
It is also not hard to alter the update so that it does not overwrite clockwork.
Open update.zip
Find updater-script, Open in notepad++
Remove the line that references recovery.img
Flash update
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Thanks for the info Rothnic! I had already flashed it before I figured out it removed Clockwork. Learning new stuff every day is good... Thanks..

dragonfly1113 said:
with the new update however does the z4root still work? i heard it may not anymore. just curious also since im hopefully getting mine on sat for xmas
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The very first time I rooted, I used ZRoot and installed 2.4.0. I didn't change anything and used the exact same process of simply copying over the 3.0.0 files over to the root directory of the internal memory and did the recovery procedure (vol+ and pwr keys). It worked like a charm.

hogasswild said:
The very first time I rooted, I used ZRoot and installed 2.4.0. I didn't change anything and used the exact same process of simply copying over the 3.0.0 files over to the root directory of the internal memory and did the recovery procedure (vol+ and pwr keys). It worked like a charm.
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Ok cool, thanks cant wait for my g tablet hopefully sat morning

I think you'll like it a lot. I also own an iPad. While they are similar they are also a little different. Merry Christmas!

hogasswild said:
I think you'll like it a lot. I also own an iPad. While they are similar they are also a little different. Merry Christmas!
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my mom has an ipad and my dad could only buy it while i was on my honeymoon bc he knew i wouldnt approve of an apple device in the house haha.

rothnic said:
It is also not hard to alter the update so that it does not overwrite clockwork.
Open update.zip
Find updater-script, Open in notepad++
Remove the line that references recovery.img
Flash update
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My device hasn't come yet (damn you FedEx!) but I'm eagerly awaiting it.
My plan:
Unbox, start it....do a factory reset from the getgo if it has enough juice.
Set it back up. Charge it to full. If whatever comes on it is as unbearable as I've seen in on Youtube - start modifications.
Will CWM install on it AFTER I do the update if it's available to me? I've seen that the update messes with it if it's already there - but noone's mentioned putting it on there after the fact. I may just go that route for simplicity sake.
Thanks for this!, and thank you all for chiming in with your experience. I feel much better about just getting my hands dirty in it all. I had wrote something to someone yesterday about jumping in and just doing it, but when it comes to dealing with it yourself it can be a daunting task - especially when it still has that new smell, lol. Anyway, thanks again. You guys really rock.
Will stop back later on after I've done my thing

I think they are both nice devices. There are trade off for both of them. I think the screen on the iPad is wonderful, where the gTab's is okay. But the gTab has a forward facing camera, you can print from it, and you can modify it fairly easily too.

Sprdtyf350 said:
Finally.. This tablet is very easy to play with. It is pretty much unbrickable.
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...famous last words...
Seriously though...trust the directions from the great devs like roebeet. Follow their instructions word for word. You can switch ROMs and then flash back if you want. No worries...

Off topic!
Well...disappointment! Fedex had my package out for delivery at 8am and at 8pm, they're not here. This is why I like UPS, they show up at my door on the day of delivery, no exceptions - they have shown up at almost 9pm before. The Archos 101 I got was sent out at 8am as well but got here at 1:30pm - I suppose that was before the holiday rush.
Checking the details of my tracking I'm seeing a "delivery exception" at 7:30pm (I guess it was time to get back to the facility so they can clock out by 8pm?) and upon calling them I get a somewhat stumbling but polite CS who tells me the delivery went out "late" - upon which I asked if 8am was considered late, especially from a distribution facility WITHIN the same zip code as I am, and all he could say was "Very sorry about this".
Aaaanyway....I guess it will be tomorrow before I can report my adventures.
Think I'll be able to get my $3.99 back from Amazon? I have Prime and with that the package would have come tomorrow anyway. Basically my $3.99 is wasted. Imagine if I didn't have Prime though? Whew.

ima_UNC_fan said:
...famous last words...
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If you can figure out how to brick it you will probably get an award.. It won't be a good award but probably one of those top ten dumb things people do awards. So far unless you plug the motherboard into a wall socket no one has bricked one. May think they have, but like I said before I doubt it..
And your right.. If it can be done, someone eventually will figure out how. And then we will all laugh at them.. At least I will

I finally got the G tablet tonight and...alright, don't flame me for this - but I don't see what all the complaints about the screen being horrendous or the device being molasses slow are about?
I don't know how people are trying to view it...but when looking at it or setting it on a stand to watch media, I'm not seeing any problem with the viewing angles. It's about the same as my laptop so I watch it the same way.
It's not even a 1/4 as slow as the stuff I've seen on Youtube or in some of the review videos I've seen around the net. I haven't gotten a single FC. Granted, I haven't put in a SD Card yet so maybe problems will start then?
I guess I should note, the very first thing I did was did a factory reset. Then I hooked it up to Wifi and got the 3053 update. I'm one of those who will be waiting for the 'official' update on the 24th.
I set up the time and date, restarted and everything works. I haven't installed flash yet (don't need it that much) and stuff that I DO want on there right now works fine (skype, pandora, fring, dropbox, evernote). I'm slowly figuring out a list of what I want/need from my Mytouch 4G to port to the VS GTab. Figure I don't really NEED Gtalk, Gmail on there because I have these on my phone AND PC - do I really want them making noises all around my home on 3 devices? I was concerned about getting the Google Apps on but now I'm finding I really don't need them. So it seems to me this will be a matter of learning to separate what I need on a tablet vs. my phone - I was of the mentality that I should just get whatever's on my phone on the tablet, this is something others apparently do as they seem to want everything that's on their phone, on their tablets as well.
I personally don't see the point in that. Had I had the Google Market, that would have escaped me as I'd have used Appbrain to just get my motherload of apps from the MT4G to the GTab. Not having it has slowed me, and now I get to re-evaluate before I do grab apps for it.
Now I just have to merge/convert my HTPC into a NAS device as well and find an app that will allow me to DLNA stream media from it and I'll be in mobile heaven.
I haven't had my wifi drop at all anywhere in my home and I've marched all over with it (I use full Wifi N, no G compat. so maybe my range is wider?). Tried email, etc. to replicate crashes and force closes but haven't so far. No surfing issues. I DID find that one app got 'stuck' being downloaded and I had to delete the file before the 'downloading' icon would go away, even after restart.
Maybe the trick to getting a workable GTab in the first place is to factory reset it before first use? Iunno. Things may change and issues may pop up the more I use it and as time passes - but so far, so good!
Again, I can't thank XDA enough for the advice and info. I've found and been given.

Sprdtyf350 said:
If you can figure out how to brick it you will probably get an award.. It won't be a good award but probably one of those top ten dumb things people do awards. So far unless you plug the motherboard into a wall socket no one has bricked one. May think they have, but like I said before I doubt it..
And your right.. If it can be done, someone eventually will figure out how. And then we will all laugh at them.. At least I will
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I figured it out. Accidentally hit one of the devkit nvflash .cabs and boom

Nextbook Premium 9

Has anyone heard of the Nextbook Premium 9? I am trying to root it, but have been unsuccessful with all of the current rooting tools (z4root, Androot etc) and have been searching the internet for anyone who has found a successful method for rooting.
any help would be greatly appreciated.

Trying to root the nextbook premium 9 tablet
HEY BRO HOW ARE YOU MY NAME IS CLAY I AM IN THE SAME BOAT AS YOU I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO INSTALL THE REAL ANDROID MARKET BUT IT SEEMS THE ONLY WAY THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN IS BY ROOTING THE TABLET SO I HAVE BEEN TEARING THE WEB APART TRYING TO FIND ROOT FOR THIS BAD BOY ANY WHO I DID FIND A COUPLE THINGS YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN LIKE MOBILES24.COM ITS A APP STORE JUST SIGN UP AND YOU CAN DOWNLOAD ANY APP THE HAVE FOR ANDROID AND YOU CAN GO TO SYNDICATE APPS.COM AMD DOWNLOAD ICS 4.0 LAUNCHER ITS PRETTY AWESOME JUST WHEN YOU GOOGLE IT AND IT GIVES YOU THE SELECTION LIST OF WEB SITES CLICK LAUNCHER ON THE VERY FIRST ONE AFTER THAT CLICK ON RELEASES AND CLICK THE BOTTOM CHOICE ICS 4.0 ITS A STABLE BUILD AND COOL TO MESS WITH ON YOUR TABLET JUST FOLLOW THE DIRECTIONS FOR DOWNLOADING IT I HOPE YOU LIKE OH YEAH IT IS A APK DOWNLOAD SO ITS EASY TO INSTALL ONCE YOU HAVE GO TO LAUNCHER SETTINGS AND ADJUST THE WAY YOU SEE FIT BUT BAK TO THE PROBLEM AT HAND ROOTING OUR TABLET IVE TRYED EVERYTHING YOU LISTED AS WELL AND NO LUCK PLEASE HELP ME IF YOU CAN AND EMAIL ME AT [email protected] IF YOU FIGURE A WAY TO GET ROOTED AND OR INSTALL THE ANDROID MARKET THANKS BRO AND GOD BLESS YOU

Is there any hope for rooting the Nextbook Premium 9?
I have a new Nextbook Premium 9, and it has been limited very tightly by Efun, and I cannot find where anyone that has posted on the Internet has managed to root it. The problem is the tight memory limitations (kills me having that much free space on the device and no access to it).
I have done all that I know to do: add a 32gb micro-sdcard, and used ADB to install some stubborn apks, and set the preferred target of installations and data to the sdcard. I moved everything over that can be moved (it has Android 2.3.1). I cannot fit the apps that I really need all at the same time. I can uninstall and reinstall from the backups on the card... a pain, and it limits its usefulness.
Not having Market is a pain, but I can live with that with help from Amazon and others. But it doesn't do me a lot of good as tightly locked down as it is. I have an Onda VX610W coming (if DHL ever decides to move it out of Hong Kong to me) with ICS already installed, but its too small for what I am using the NextbookP9 to do. I need the Nextbook for my presentations. It has the larger screen, and I just need it.
Please, is there anyone who can help me or who can point me in the right direction. I need help with this one. Thanks in advance.
Jim aka FireStorm

Simular situation. A friend tried to root his with the 8p's root. While it worked the touchscreen doesnt work.
So how do I go about figuring out what driver I should compile and throw in the image?

I am still looking for a way to root the Nextbook Premium 9
The Nextbook Premium series are rebranded Kohotech Tablets, and I think I am about to dive into the nightmare of trying to get technical support from a Chinese company. Efun is 'less than' helpful, and the response I got to the request for help left me gritting my teeth. They are selling the new 10 inch Kohotech that carries Android 4 ICS. This is done before they fulfill their promise to upgrade the other Premiums to ICS. That would help, but not solve the memory problems.
I bought the Onda VX610W I mentioned, and even though the Nextbook has a superior resolution than the Onda and a camera, the Onda flies circles around it in performance. It came pre-rooted from the company I bought it from.
The Onda has ICS and the Nextbook Gingerbread, and the processor of the Onda is an Allwinner A10 (faster than I expected). The Onda came with 8gb internal memory (I have a 32gb micro-sdcard due here tomorrow), and the Nextbook came with 4gb and has an external 32gb sdcard. But the majority of the Nextbook's internal memory is untouched, with no way to move anything over to ROM without rooting. When you see the performance side by side, the difference kind of hurts when you consider what is in the Nextbook.
I think though, most of the operational difference has to do with the fact that the Nextbook is so walled up that it is difficult to access its memory and other parts of its hardware (having difficulties using its magnetometer). It just doesn't have enough memory to function well, and most of it just sits there idle.
I have a 32gb micro-sdcard in it, and have used the Android Debugger to have it default to moving a lot of the apps to the sdcard instead of internal memory when installed. It helps, but it is continually slowing or locking on operations that should not bottleneck it (doesn't matter if they are in internal memory or the external sdcard). I have to push the reset at least twice per day. What I am doing on it should give it no great grief, but it does. The Onda makes the problems with the Nextbook all the more obvious. The problem is that the screen on the Onda is going to finish making me blind I think. I need the Nextbook. I don't really want to have to consider this a wasted tablet.
I understand from other discussions that the Premium 9 is very brick-resistant. Its a good thing, because I am ready to experiment. If I just want to watch a movie, its okay... but if I try to really use it, it works about 1/4 of the time. It has good hardware, but it is just so walled up. Nooks are apparently easier to root than these.
If anyone can help, I would really, really appreciate it.
Jim

firestorm005 said:
The Nextbook Premium series are rebranded Kohotech Tablets, and I think I am about to dive into the nightmare of trying to get technical support from a Chinese company. Efun is 'less than' helpful, and the response I got to the request for help left me gritting my teeth. They are selling the new 10 inch Kohotech that carries Android 4 ICS. This is done before they fulfill their promise to upgrade the other Premiums to ICS. That would help, but not solve the memory problems.
I bought the Onda VX610W I mentioned, and even though the Nextbook has a superior resolution than the Onda and a camera, the Onda flies circles around it in performance. It came pre-rooted from the company I bought it from.
The Onda has ICS and the Nextbook Gingerbread, and the processor of the Onda is an Allwinner A10 (faster than I expected). The Onda came with 8gb internal memory (I have a 32gb micro-sdcard due here tomorrow), and the Nextbook came with 4gb and has an external 32gb sdcard. But the majority of the Nextbook's internal memory is untouched, with no way to move anything over to ROM without rooting. When you see the performance side by side, the difference kind of hurts when you consider what is in the Nextbook.
I think though, most of the operational difference has to do with the fact that the Nextbook is so walled up that it is difficult to access its memory and other parts of its hardware (having difficulties using its magnetometer). It just doesn't have enough memory to function well, and most of it just sits there idle.
I have a 32gb micro-sdcard in it, and have used the Android Debugger to have it default to moving a lot of the apps to the sdcard instead of internal memory when installed. It helps, but it is continually slowing or locking on operations that should not bottleneck it (doesn't matter if they are in internal memory or the external sdcard). I have to push the reset at least twice per day. What I am doing on it should give it no great grief, but it does. The Onda makes the problems with the Nextbook all the more obvious. The problem is that the screen on the Onda is going to finish making me blind I think. I need the Nextbook. I don't really want to have to consider this a wasted tablet.
I understand from other discussions that the Premium 9 is very brick-resistant. Its a good thing, because I am ready to experiment. If I just want to watch a movie, its okay... but if I try to really use it, it works about 1/4 of the time. It has good hardware, but it is just so walled up. Nooks are apparently easier to root than these.
If anyone can help, I would really, really appreciate it.
Jim
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I have a rooted android running on the 9P ... just need touchscreen drivers for it

When you get it running... touchscreen and all, then please contact me again. I need the help. I have run into a glitch on the Onda and it is consuming my time right now... trying to avoid reflashing it, but it seems the best option. I can't keep my little hands off of things when they are working just fine it seems... always trying to find out what can work better. Its a life-long trend, and at this point it seems kind of useless to try and stop.
Anyway, whenever I find out why I have wifi connectivity and no network interface on the Onda, I am going to switch my focus back to the Nextbook. It is actually running better than it has run before because I unloaded a lot of nice apps to give it more breathing room. But it kind of sacrificed the purpose to which I got it. There is no balanced compromise with that one... I have to root it when it is possible, to free up memory and maybe to upgrade past Gingerbread. They are offering the new 10 inch tablet with ICS installed right now. I checked with Kohotech, and there is almost no difference in the Nextbook 9 and 10... even more alike than the 8 and 9, but ICS changes it a lot.
I have a device running 2.1, 2.3 and 4.0, and let me tell you... despite the obvious similarities of them all being Android, the 4.0 does some neat things the others just can't, and it is smoother.
Got to start with rooting the thing, though.
If you get the screen working, then I would like to hear more about it... thanks.
UPDATE: For some reason, the permissions on this page suddenly would not let me post a reply, which I really need to do. Finless on Freaktab.com has produced a working custom rooted rom for the NEXTBOOK PREMIUM 9. He also included the original stock rom in case of emergencies. I have not tried it, but according to others, it works. I just finished downloading the files and will try it tomorrow after a nap.
I request permission to post a new reply in this thread. If you will let me, I will post a link to the thread found on Freaktabs that has the solution. I will first try out the ROM myself though. I was about to sell this thing to a friend in frustration.
It has such a beautiful display, I think I'll keep it with the 1gb USER APP space and access to Google Play that he gave it. He said he could do more, but 1 gb will make the thing workable... especially since he got rid of the bloatware bogging it down. But there is hope for the Premium9 users now. I sent tech support at Nextbook an inquiry about upgrades to ICS as there was some real indication of an upgrade. They said no plans were in the works for upgrading the very bogged down unrooted Gingerbread ROM it comes with. GET THIS: they suggested that I buy one of their "new" series of tablets (like... 5 months after the Premiums hit the market) instead. Hey, just forget the $200 or so dollar investment and buy a newer one with ICS from us... also unrooted. No thank you. I have an Archos on the way and own an Onda. I don't think I want another unrooted bogged down tablet from Nextbook after just getting this one. Except for having 4gb instead of 8gb memory, the hardware in the thing is pretty sound. But it was the locked down rom that made it a misery to use. If it works out, I will post the results.

firestorm005 said:
When you get it running... touchscreen and all, then please contact me again. I need the help. I have run into a glitch on the Onda and it is consuming my time right now... trying to avoid reflashing it, but it seems the best option. I can't keep my little hands off of things when they are working just fine it seems... always trying to find out what can work better. Its a life-long trend, and at this point it seems kind of useless to try and stop.
Anyway, whenever I find out why I have wifi connectivity and no network interface on the Onda, I am going to switch my focus back to the Nextbook. It is actually running better than it has run before because I unloaded a lot of nice apps to give it more breathing room. But it kind of sacrificed the purpose to which I got it. There is no balanced compromise with that one... I have to root it when it is possible, to free up memory and maybe to upgrade past Gingerbread. They are offering the new 10 inch tablet with ICS installed right now. I checked with Kohotech, and there is almost no difference in the Nextbook 9 and 10... even more alike than the 8 and 9, but ICS changes it a lot.
I have a device running 2.1, 2.3 and 4.0, and let me tell you... despite the obvious similarities of them all being Android, the 4.0 does some neat things the others just can't, and it is smoother.
Got to start with rooting the thing, though.
If you get the screen working, then I would like to hear more about it... thanks.
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Certinally. Because this was passed to me I was responsible for returning a working device TODAY so I ended up buying a brand new one >.>

Any news regarding this Nextbook Premium 9 root + market? I will receive one this week but... it seems that I will regret having it...
It would be awsome if some dev put his hands on one...

I also own a Next9P and also would like option of rooting this device... Are there any devs. mildly interested in working on this... I have some limited funds if it would help.
Sent from my NXM908HC using xda premium

Me too please....
Just tring to keep this topic alive as I would like to see developement on this platform myself. I got my hands one one of these lately.
I have managed to get a rom dump of the Nextbook Next9 NXM908HC
The romdump (done through adb) reported successful dump all exept config.gz where I wound up with 0 bytes. I read over there that the custom rom for the Next8p runs on the 9p but drivers are wrong for the digitizer on the 9p.
Here is a link for the dump on the Next9 NXM908HC if there are any takers for making a custom rom out of it.
http://isurf2.com/droidwork/next9/
A cyanogenmod7 version for it would be much appreciated, but I wont hold my breath.
--Brink

thanks for the dump. I will see what I can do over the next week.

If someone knows how to root...
If someone knew how to root this tablet maybe I could get a dump with the config.gz intact.

For those looking for rooted nextbook9
Head on over to freaktab.com. A fella that goes by Finless (administrator) AKA Bob has done us all a great service by putting together a rooted, debloated nextbook9 ROM.
I have tested it on my nextbook9 and found that it works.
BTW: When he says debloated he means it. This is positively the most stripped down ROM I have ever seen and I've been flashing custom builds since the windows mobile6 days.
If you found this information useful, don't forget to click the thanks button.
--Brink
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Inside the custom rom found on that page at freaktab.com look for app injector. This takes care of the too stripped down to be usefull. With that you can add the market (Play Store) gapps and the other apps that come with the stock rom.
--Brink

I tried the ROM from Freaktab and it worked great. My 9P is rooted, I have the full android market. The ROM utilizes more memory, boots faster, and seems to run apps faster. What more can you ask for?!
So go to the link posted by Brinkley... Oh and BTW, thanks Brinkley, I followed the link from your post and that is why my P9 is now rooted.
Cheers, TooSlow

the freaktab rom is ginger not ics is there a root/debloat rom for ics ?

I have the Nextbook P10SE. I just flashed a few different ROMS for it, including a JB rom. only problem is, inverted screen and touch.
which of course renders it useless. Finless rom has the touch correct, but the image is rotated 180 degrees.
the JB rom found here on XDA (look for Rockchip ROM) has the screen oriented correctly but the touch is rotated 180 degrees
sigh.

try kingo root, that software does root almost every device that i know of. i have been there with a device that is unknown or limited and you cant find any thing at all, thats why i start to build my own stuff. Try kingo root that would be first step and then cwm .

[ROM] Hyundai A7 - first custom rom! POST#6

ok, so i just got this in the mail today (110 bucks on ebay) and i like and i dont like.
i have a rooted nextbook premium 7 (thanks dochoppy!) and i love the np7 for the price. someone steered me toward the A7 and i was feeling a bit rich that night so i bought it. the specs are amazing! i particularly like the front facing camera so this can be used for skype and the speed should be awesome as well, but im not feeling it.
if there is anyone who has this tablet post here so we can encourage some development, im slowly starting to learn some myself but i am in need of lots of help! come on guys lets root this puppy and see what its made of!

wow posted this three weeks ago and no comment?
i guess no one on xda has one of these
well ive been busy with some other projects and just now had some more time to play with this new android toy.
turns out it IS rooted right out of the box, strange but awesome no work needed here!
had lots of issues trying to install the market initially tried lots of .apks and only a few would download when i would open the market it would just force close or would time out.
when i installed any ics gmail i would get the constant fc "android.core...." forget the rest but i remember having this issue on a phone a while back when i removed somethings necessary for android to run properly.
did some research found the manufactures website (if you go here be sure to have google translate ready )
found others having similar problems. turns out just downgrading the firmware fixes much of these issues. go back to 4.0.3 (20120203) and market (play) works flawless!!!!
just needed to download the correct contacts.apk to fix the "android.core..."
now i need to change the buildprop to allow more apps from the market.
also need to find some way to fix this kernel (more like find someone to do it for me ) when i open set cpu all is grand - as soon as i attempt to overclock bam! screen black and everything frozen - hard reset fixes this
root explorer is not finding my sdcard (thinks the nandflash is sd) so im using the file explorer that came with it. not sure if it has r/w option but i think if i need some minor adjustments root explorer can work and rom toolbox appears ok.
anyhow just wanted to post some updates and as soon as i get some more time i will add more detail here. oh and post links if needed too!

still no one....
well im starting to like this tablet more and more, and ics!
i thought i bricked it earlier when i was trying to overclock again (need a new kernel!)
i flashed the 20120203 firmware update again and nothing! tried three or four times and i kept getting stuck at the initial boot/splash screen!
went to the manufactures website and this time there was a new update, and this one had the market preinstalled!
http://www.hyundai-digital.cn/download/?lis=2&cl=2&cid=7
its the 20120329 dated but the build is 20120314 --- so there must be a few weeks of testing before they release to the public, a good thing i assume.
anyway this version seems much better but there still NEEDS to be a custom rom for this tablet! there is so much potential here but linpack only clocks at like 15.5 mflops, neocore scores 63.2 fps (looks good though!) antutu gets 3074
being that this seems hard to brick im going to attempt some tweaks, not a true custom rom but hopefully something better than stock.
if anyone has one of these and has issues with flashing the newest firmware just ask and ill be glad to help!

Picked one up as well. I am told by finless that I should follow the development of the Polaroid tabs (same SoC). Tabletrepublic and Flashmyandroid have dedicated forums with good info for the Hyundai A7. I'm downloading the 314 build right now....
I just received my HDMI adapter yesterday. Watched a Blu-Ray ripped file from the A7 on my 52". WOW!
Update: New ROM fixed errors, but the camera still won't work with supplied software (so no Skype). Netflix plays longer but still eventually freezes (about 10 min).
Update: Re-formatted and re-flashed. Camera works reliably! Skype video works!

ok here is the first custom rom for the hyundai a7! let me just say it isnt too much just the latest firmware minus all the chinese stuff. has full market, superuser and busybox are installed and working and full gapps applied and working strong! ive tested it for about a day now and havent found any flaws but would like a few more to try it.
i take no credit here!!!! this is made by steev a developer over @ flashmyandroid, this is based off his elvish rom for allwinner tablets. so give him a hand!
this is the first step into making your a7 the best tablet for the price around! so test this rom out and see how it works, let me know if there are any improvements/changes you want to see here! here ya go!
http://minus.com/mMQ8obWfa/1f

were to start ?
hi there . i should be getting my Hyundai A7 Tablet in a day or so. and haven’t found much info out there other then the spec.
just joined this site as I’m getting the feeling that it would be able to do what i want out the box.
in the past i have put a dual boot system on my old iriver and also messed about with a psp to play Amiga games .. but from looking around on this web page, everything seems t be way over my head . and haven’t found the link for "Hyundai A7 for dummies" any were .
basically i love my htc desire, and would like the tablet to do much of the same.
browse the net, down load programs off the Google site, and properly will end up doing minor editing on spread sheets and also downloading bit torrents.
and if posoble run some old amiga games
I’m guessing i need to do an update or something to get it to be able to access the Google downloads.
but do i need anything else .
i know that I’m properly way way behind on my tec or playing with operating systems . and properly will never understand all of what opening up an operating system can do,
but do i need to ?
and if so .. where should i start?
as i say .. struggling to find a basic / dummy guide to all this
any help would be most welcome

When you get your a7 play with it for a day and then come back if you decide you want more. I can post details on how to flash the only custom rom for these beast so far. Trutfully as improved it is over the stock os we need a lot more work to make this little tablet fly. If you need help ill post the links and instructions when I'm @ a computer
Sent from my HTC Vision using xda premium

HELP, TUTORIAL: hyundai a7 custom rom flashing
first of all i want to thanks for the custom rom for the a7 "beast"
if it is possible, please let me know how to flash the a7.
i am basicly on mac, but i have also windows.
are there any mac based android utility ? except video converters any sw is welcomed
Thnx

first get live suit 1.07 here:
http://www.mediafire.com/?idmeiyvr8xbt6rd
then get custom rom here:
http://minus.com/mMQ8obWfa/1f
now make sure you are powered down on the tablet (fully) and not plugged into computer
open live suit (on a pc there may be a mac version havent looked into it)
sometimes a "backup warning" window open , hit no and then move on
next hit the square button in the left corner (looks like cardboard box)
from here direct the file to you custom rom (elvish)
now plug in your a7 to computer, if it automatically powers on shut it back down
take a small pin or whathaveyou to the little hole to the left of hdmi port this is the "update" button
hold down the "update" button as you power on and you will see a window pop up on your computer
click yes to reformat (i always do but you could hit no and it will still update without reformatting)
wait a short time (~2min) untill the progress bar finishes.
tablet will auto reboot when done
yeah! new firmware! your done!
EDIT: here is a video i found for flashing a polaroid tablet with livesuit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oL5KnVH6inQ&feature=youtu.be
similar device so i thought it could be helpful to some

bigger battery?
so for i fun i decided to open this tablet up here are a few pics of the inside
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turns out only one speaker granted it only looked like two from the outside but i did assume there was stereo
with help from finlessbob i was able to determine this is a lithium-polymer battery (lipo)
the dimensions of the current battery are width:2.625" , length:3.2" , height:.2"
it is two batteries strung together so a third battery inline would be optimal. slice this in half and i need:
w-1.3", l-3.2", h-.2"
this approximate of course and could probably get away with large still.
im going to check online and local hobby/battery shops and see if i can find something for under $30
if anyone has something they think might work let me know and ill take a look

just received my Hyundai A7 about 2 weeks ago - I too am more and more impressed with this tablet every time I use it (using Evish ROM). It simply can't be beat for $100 - ICS runs great on it...
My son has since taken owenership of it, but I was thinking of geting another one, just to play with....
If anyone is "on the fence" about whether or not to get one, do it!!
By the way, the plastic film on the front is not meant to be permenant - just a protective sheet. It is a PIA to remove, but I would remove it for sure....

speaker crackle
someone turned me on to a post in german, dont really know who to thank for this
but anyone else her that crack! on the speaker when just navigating?
dont know why i didnt notice this before but directly above the speaker sits the wifi antenna, dumb design that causes interference.
quick fix is to take the speaker and turn it 180 so the wires are facing the other way, then put a small pieces of something in between the speaker and antenna. (they used a utility knife blade) sounds like wifi reception improves too!
anyhow about to try this myself - ill report back with my findings as well as any other tips i find.
original poster ---- http://www.android-hilfe.de/sonstig...ablet-fuer-unter-100-euro-12.html#post2961152

Any word on a WPA_supplicant for Ad-Hoc for this device?

Tybalt39 said:
Any word on a WPA_supplicant for Ad-Hoc for this device?
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Ad-hoc is working fine on mine (I install Elvish custom ROM though).
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk 2

jtrosky said:
Ad-hoc is working fine on mine (I install Elvish custom ROM though).
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk 2
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NOW I will flash. Thank you!!
Edit: Ad-Hoc working great! Now I can retire my Nextbook.

Hey fellas! Would you happen to know if there is any custom ROM for the A7HD model? I would like to spend the extra $30, to get a Higher res Screen and the other small tweaks

AllAboutAndroids said:
Hey fellas! Would you happen to know if there is any custom ROM for the A7HD model? I would like to spend the extra $30, to get a Higher res Screen and the other small tweaks
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I've ordered the A7HD and might get it by 15th of May. I really am eager to try this tablet as I think that it will be very competitive in the Market. No custom Roms have been released for this one yet but I think developers can tweak in the Elvish changing the display driver and resolution to fit the A7HD

a few people have been asking how to stop the speaker noise (click!) so i posted an explanation and a link a few pages back. but like i promised i finally got around to take a few pictures of the modification
you can see i moved the speaker 180 so the wires are on the left. i then cut a small piece of plastic (seen someone use a utility knife blade so use whatever you think will work) and placed it above the speaker. this will keep the speaker from interfering with the wifi.
also when you have your tablet opened (its easy just pry around the edges) take a look at the connections, these are terribly soldered. especially look at the usb port there have been some people complaining it broke from the board.
mine seems ok but it may be better to add a little solder now before it were to break off completely if yours looks poor
as for the bigger battery, i havent found a good replacement yet (havent looked hard either i mostly use my NP7) but when i do i will update
and does anyone know if i were to replace this camera with a better one (5mp maybe) would i need to change the software too? i assume there may just be a little bit tweaking the code but it would be nice for this camera is so easy to take out and there seem to e many i could attempt to replace it with, well if anyone has an idea on this let me know

A bought two batteries for galaxy note (not original) on ebay. Their capacity is 2600 mAh for one. Waiting for them. I want to connect them parallelly, and get one battery with about 5000 mAh capacity. Everything must fit.

What are the dimensions?
Sent from my HTC Vision using xda premium

[Q] Upgrade/Downgrade/headaches.

This is my first post here so please be gentle. I have a Note pro 12.2 (p900/WiFi) tablet that I purchased last year after 2 months of reading/doing research/and hands on between it and the Surface3 pro. Biggest problem was I had to go to Florida to actually get my hands on a Pro because no one in the tri state area (MD/PA/NJ) had it in stock or even as a display. And when I bought it i HAD to order it.
Past all that, the Note has been invaluable to me, 64GB plus 128GB card. I use it every day, 8-12 hours minimum. I have not rooted it because I am worried about support. I also have a Note 3 running 4.4.2 - I turned off the auto updates and have refused to allow the upgrade to Lollipop on that device because of all the problems I have been reading about. That device works perfectly. My wife's first S4 did and auto update which completely messed up that phone. So I have experience trying to get those children at the Sprint store to try to help. _anyway, I digress. Today, I checked, an update is available for the Note Pro (+1GB file to download by the looks of it) I would not mind trying it but first I want to do a complete backup snapshot of my device. Just like I do on my pc's and laptops. For example, I use Clonezilla and can image the whole thing, perfectly, and restore it COMPLETELY - at will. I have not found ANY tool that allows me to do that to ANY android device. It is like I am being help hostage. I hate it.
1. I want to be able to get a complete (Clonezilla style image) of my NOTE PRO and I want to be able to restore that should the Lollipop experience be Lollypoop.
2. I want to be able to capture that snapshot of the device with all its settings intact - including the Knox
Can this be done? What tool is there that allows a real complete snapshot of an android device and allows you to restore a previous or older version, SHOULD I CHOOSE TO (from 5.02 to 4.4.2 - something the Sprint children told me is not possible with android)
Any useful help and pointing into a direction that can do this would be greatly appreciated. I know that I am not alone in this frustration with Google forcibly controlling EVERYTHING ( I was livid last year when my Notes upgraded to 4.4.2 and I lost the ability to write to the external card on nearly every app that I had paid for, even sent multiple e-mails to Samsung, to no avail)

Following along
I'm curious about whether that is possible as well beyond a nandroid backup. I'm not likely to upgrade to the 5.02 firmware because I have the logitech keyboard case. If
I've been an XDA member for nearly 7 years, but I don't usually ask much in the way of questions. I hardly post at all, actually. I can usually find my answers by searching and reading the forums. This is my first Samsung device (I've always had either Nexus or HTC phones. & Nexus tablets) and I find working with it to be kind of frustrating. I've kept it stock at 4.4 because it works 95% of the time. The only problem I have is with wifi at times.
I'd like to put an alternate ROM on it and find a way to keep most of the S-pen functionality, but so far the array of "X works, but Y" doesn't info associated with various roms I've read about is daunting.

serious lack of understqnding
Can you imagine, making an upgrade and blowing out a major manufacturer like Logitec? Not some hokum chinese knockoff, but a name brand. This is exactly what is wrong with android. It seems inexperienced and oblivious children are driving it. That is one of the major reasons android was lacking serious professional support and respect all these years. Making boneheaded decisions that destroy existing functionality, for what? A new color scheme? A flat screen lay out? Really, thats what we need?
And when they PUSH the upgrades, its like you are trapped. A cloned backup and the ability to restore to a previous good setup is absolutely essential. I have looked at all these mods of the kernel and tweaks, etc. The fact is that NONE of them have 100% functionality. You always lose something, sometimes a lot. And the gains do not seem to be worth destroying the stock setup. ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU CAN NOT UNDO IT.
The loss of direct access to external sd cards for example, because google is pushing phones with no external sd slots. Really? I avoided apple products EXACTLY because there was no expansion slot. Then google goes and kills it.
Here is a suggestion. NOT ALL DEVICES ARE PHONES. Tablets have been around for years. Enough already with phone upgrades for tablets. Tablets should have their own firmware and operating system.
Here is a novel idea. You want loyal customers? Give them what they are clamoring for. Give them the ability to save their systems. Then upgrade fo your hearts content. BUT IF IT IS A CRAP UPGRADE. Allow them to undo it. Think about how much less bad feedback and emergency support you can avoid. Thats real dollars being save.
And by the way, as unresponsive as Samsung has been, they see the writing on the wall. Android on Samsung devices is heading the way of the dodo. Some skinned version of a tablet/phone linux replacement is coming. It will be one of the first major rejections of google power grab by a major player in the market.
So give us the ability to backup our systems. WITHOUT HAVING TO ROOT, when even that does not guarantee 100% sucess

and the list grows
Judging by the slew of problems, an ever increasing list, Lollipoop is so not a worthwhile upgrade. This is exactly why we need to be able to snapshot/backup the complete system BEFORE ANY UPDATES.
After two days of waiting, it is disappointing to me that no answer has been posted. I thought if any place had it it would be here. I might be wrong.

globalsearch said:
Judging by the slew of problems, an ever increasing list, Lollipoop is so not a worthwhile upgrade. This is exactly why we need to be able to snapshot/backup the complete system BEFORE ANY UPDATES.
After two days of waiting, it is disappointing to me that no answer has been posted. I thought if any place had it it would be here. I might be wrong.
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As you've guessed, you're basically looking for an answer that doesn't exist, at least not the specific one you want. The one you don't? . . . Root and install custom recovery? . . that's the only answer at this point . . and yes it trips Knox . . it is what it is . . Trust me, you're not the first or only person to lament about the situation. I've been up on my own soap box many times too.

ah..
muzzy996 said:
As you've guessed, you're basically looking for an answer that doesn't exist, at least not the specific one you want. The one you don't? . . . Root and install custom recovery? . . that's the only answer at this point . . and yes it trips Knox . . it is what it is . . Trust me, you're not the first or only person to lament about the situation. I've been up on my own soap box many times too.
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I had a premonition, considering how no one touched my question. You can get a lot of answers by just by asking the right question, even when they don't answer.
As long as Android remains attached to this childish, closed sandbox and its restrictions, then its days are numbered. From the standpoint of a business owner, if I was a major company with product in the pipeline that needs something to run as the basic operating system, I WOULD BE LOOKING SOMEPLACE ELSE.
Google is not the end-all be-all of software. There were other operating systems before them and there will be operating systems after they move into the dustbin of history. I hope they are paying attention here. I personally have been in the field since the mid-70's, I see a strong pattern here.
Anyway, thank you for flipping on the light bulb. I will contain my rage and re-direct it to something more productive (like those dweebs at Papyrus - jesus)

I was searching the forum looking for an answer to something like this... I have to say, I'm also shocked there have no answers given
regarding Knox... no you cannot restore that under any circumstances.
snapshot of everything else... yes and no. you cannot snapshot (aka nandroid aka twrp backup) your bootloader or STOCK recovery.
bootloader: you can only change this via Odin or OTA updates, and depending on the specific update cannot downgrade these below a certain point of the currently installed (if at all)
recovery:
you can freely flash new versions without a pc, but you cannot backup the stock recovery in a nandroid because the nandroid is generated using twrp -- a custom recovery that takes the place of stock recovery (mostly useless). if you find a copy of the stock recovery on the forum, you could then flash it back using Flashify from Google Play, but you'd then lose the ability to restore your nandroid until TWRP is restored.
also, you cannot take OTA updates while TWRP is installed, and in some cases at all / ever again after installing TWRP or root.
edit:
I can confirm that OF4 (the initial lollipop update) can be downgraded to NK1 (the newest kitkat update). if anyone can confirm for me whether or not OI1 can be downgraded to kitkat NK1 I would greatly appreciate it!

Depending on what version of Note Pro you have, LTE versions have locked bootloader, so they cannot downgrade.
Wifi Note Pro doesn't have locked bootloader, but downgrade from Lollipop to Kitkat you need bootloader for Kitkat along with the firmware NK1. If you read the threat LogicTech keyboard not working after update to Lollipop, you will see the link to Kitkat bootloader.
Without this bootloader, your tablet will hang at boot up after you flash the Kitkat firmware.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62371717&postcount=125
This is my current Lollipop OI1
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I downgrade it to NK1, this process only takes 5 minutes
I did it only for demonstration but personally I think Lollipop has a better graphic interface, then I go back to Lollipop .
I can go back and forth from Kitkat to Lollipop with ease as long as right bootloader is loaded.
Since I loaded the OH2, the tablet is updating now to OI1 and it's wifi version SM-P900 Note.

Beut said:
LTE versions have locked bootloader,
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That's not entirely true.
The USA LTE versions have a locked bootloader.
The International P905, however, does not. (Device-locking of any kind is illegal under EU law.)
Now, whether you can downgrade the P905 I really can't say, because mine has been comfortably sitting on 4.4.2, and I have no desire to let Lollipop anywhere near it. :laugh: Just thought I'd clarify that the US and EU devices are not the same

ShadowLea said:
thought I'd clarify that the US and EU devices are not the same
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If you can post your tablet with back cover removed, I can tell if it's different from US device. I once opened a tablet sold in England, I did not see any differences from US device except the hardware code indicates it's not from US. I swap a mainboard from SM-P907A, an LTE tablet from AT&T to SM-P905V, an LTE tablet from Verizon, it runs normally except the software customized for AT&T. I don't change anything from the Verizon tablet, except the mainboard from AT&T.
Even with a LTE mainboard, I can use any part of a Wifi Note Pro SM-P900 except the rear camera as they are exactly the same.
Or I can change a LTE Note Pro to a Wifi Note Pro by swapping the mainboard and rear camera, the rest are identical.
From my experiences of varieties of Samsung tablets, I don't see any major differences of Note Pro LTE and Wifi versions as they almost use the same parts.
By using a mainboard of Tab Pro in a Note Pro tablet, I can even change a Note Pro to a Tab Pro as they are using the same parts except the Tab Pro mainboard doesn't have S Pen cable connector, it works normally as a Tab Pro.
That means I can downgrade a LTE Note Pro to Wifi Note Pro or Wifi Tab Pro by only swapping mainboard and rear camera.
Given the fact that LTE tablets sold in US have different names but actually they are Identical , I can tell Samsung makes the same tablet but the differences
are software and firmware loaded into it, like SM-P905A, SM-P907V, SM-P907T, they're branded by LTE providers but the hardwares are the same

Has anyone ever heard of a Note 2 produced with only 4GB storage on the phone?

All the research I have done indicates that the Galaxy note2 was produced in 16/32/64GB models. I have a note 2 model GT-N7100 running android 4.1.2 that indicates it has 3.18GB storage on the phone with 2.38GB used. My phone is rooted (don't know if that affects the memory). I'm at my wit's end. I have to uninstall apps when I find a new one I'd like to try, and most other times there is not enough memory for apps to update. Sure could use some help. And just as a side note, I am 70 years old and my technological brain isn't firing on 8 cylinders anymore, so please be gentle. Thanks.
Art

I don't think that configuration exists. Verify your configuration by looking up the model number, and revision online. You may have some sort of error, bad RAM, or even some malware. Try resetting the device, after backing up your data of course.
Are you saying you have only 4GB in total, or that amount available? Perhaps you could find someone who could verify the configuration for you? Try a local phone store, or computer store. For someone who is familiar with devices, they should be able to find out within a few minutes of holding it in their hand.
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retired911 said:
All the research I have done indicates that the Galaxy note2 was produced in 16/32/64GB models. I have a note 2 model GT-N7100 running android 4.1.2 that indicates it has 3.18GB storage on the phone with 2.38GB used. My phone is rooted (don't know if that affects the memory). I'm at my wit's end. I have to uninstall apps when I find a new one I'd like to try, and most other times there is not enough memory for apps to update. Sure could use some help. And just as a side note, I am 70 years old and my technological brain isn't firing on 8 cylinders anymore, so please be gentle. Thanks.
Art
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I'd like to know what modifications have been made to the device and whether you've been flashing custom ROMs on the device. Has the device been repartitioned somewhere along the way?
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kieseyhow said:
I don't think that configuration exists. Verify your configuration by looking up the model number, and revision online. You may have some sort of error, bad RAM, or even some malware. Try resetting the device, after backing up your data of course.
Are you saying you have only 4GB in total, or that amount available? Perhaps you could find someone who could verify the configuration for you? Try a local phone store, or computer store. For someone who is familiar with devices, they should be able to find out within a few minutes of holding it in their hand.
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Thanks so much for the reply and advice. I went to a phone repair shop as you suggested and they were puzzled that it showed only 3.18GB total available storage but when I told them that it was rooted they said that was likely the cause of the missing ram. They were a certified Samsung repair shop. I don't believe that. Who in their right mind would waste 12GB by rooting a phone. They also told me that since it is rooted, I can't unroot. In fact they treated me and my phone as though we had the plague.
Nobody here will touch this phone because it is not a North American version. I think the N7100 was made for Asia, but works fine here. I bought it used, already rooted and unlocked. What drew me to this phone is first, it is a reputable device, second, it has FM radio, and third, it has a large screen. If I could unlock the extra 12GB I'd be dancing the jig!
cheers
Art

Droidriven said:
I'd like to know what modifications have been made to the device and whether you've been flashing custom ROMs on the device. Has the device been repartitioned somewhere along the way?
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I'd love to be able to answer those questions, but I was looking for a used unlocked samsung and it was rooted and unlocked when I purchased it. I don't think it is partitioned as there is no indication (that I have found) of another "drive". In system/storage,device memory it says "total space" 3.08GB. Available 713MB . I do have a 32GB sd card installed but I can't move any apps on to it. I used to be able to do that with my previous phone. This phone still has os 4.1.2, and I have never flashed a custom rom although I'd love to one day.
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Art

Sorry about that. Looks like you found a den of thieves and scum; more common than most people realise. Sadly 80% of the human race is inncompetent. Find someone else.
Find the help manual online, then read up how to reset the device. Try that. However if this is a hardware problem, you will be hard pressed to find someone with the skills to repair it. Now, if you went to a third-world country, and looked in the shacks, you would find people who not only would ,but could replace those bad RAM circuits for you. Sadly you live, like I do, in Western society. First world with money, but third world in competence, decency and common sense.
Bottom ilne, those guys in that store, out-right lied to you, ruinig their future of any business from you in the process, very incompetent.
Second choice? They really were just that useless. You will have to try again, or end up doing what I do; fix it yourself.
First, try resetting it.
Second, activate developer options and find out detailed information about the "expected" capabilities of your device.
Third, try and repair it yourself.
Fourth, replace your device, but keep that defective one to test people for honesty and competence.
I did look online for you, and none of those Samsung came with only 4GB of RAM, none that I could find anyhow. So, it is either software, or hardware. software is a 10 minute fix you can do yourself with a factory reset. Hardware is something that only an experienced electronics tech or serious hobbiest (with a reflow station) could do by reflowing the solder for the RAM, or replacing some chips on the main board. Good luck!
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retired911 said:
I'd love to be able to answer those questions, but I was looking for a used unlocked samsung and it was rooted and unlocked when I purchased it. I don't think it is partitioned as there is no indication (that I have found) of another "drive". In system/storage,device memory it says "total space" 3.08GB. Available 713MB . I do have a 32GB sd card installed but I can't move any apps on to it. I used to be able to do that with my previous phone. This phone still has os 4.1.2, and I have never flashed a custom rom although I'd love to one day.
cheers
Art
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Unless it's a hardware problem, you can flash your stock firmware along with the PIT file for your specific model number via Odin and it should fix this.
The PIT file tells Odin how your partitions are supposed to be structured, it should put everything back the way it's supposed to be.
You can do a Google search for:
"PIT for (your model number)"
Or find someone that has a rooted device with your model number and have them.pull a copy of their PIT and have them upload it somewhere.
And yes, you can unroot the device, there two ways to do it, you should have a SuperSU app somewhere in app drawer, open it then open its app settings, look for a setting that says something like "cleanup for unroot and unistall", this removes the su binaries and uninstalls SuperSU, leaving no root, also, flashing stock firmware via Odin will remove root but root isn't the problem. Someone did this manually their self somehow and they used root permission to do it.
Other than flashing stock firmware via Odin, you'd have better luck fixing the device WITH root than you would without it. Root allows you to change everything, you can't change anything without root.
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kieseyhow said:
Sorry about that. Looks like you found a den of thieves and scum; more common than most people realise. Sadly 80% of the human race is inncompetent. Find someone else.
Find the help manual online, then read up how to reset the device. Try that. However if this is a hardware problem, you will be hard pressed to find someone with the skills to repair it. Now, if you went to a third-world country, and looked in the shacks, you would find people who not only would ,but could replace those bad RAM circuits for you. Sadly you live, like I do, in Western society. First world with money, but third world in competence, decency and common sense.
Bottom ilne, those guys in that store, out-right lied to you, ruinig their future of any business from you in the process, very incompetent.
Second choice? They really were just that useless. You will have to try again, or end up doing what I do; fix it yourself.
First, try resetting it.
Second, activate developer options and find out detailed information about the "expected" capabilities of your device.
Third, try and repair it yourself.
Fourth, replace your device, but keep that defective one to test people for honesty and competence.
I did look online for you, and none of those Samsung came with only 4GB of RAM, none that I could find anyhow. So, it is either software, or hardware. software is a 10 minute fix you can do yourself with a factory reset. Hardware is something that only an experienced electronics tech or serious hobbiest (with a reflow station) could do by reflowing the solder for the RAM, or replacing some chips on the main board. Good luck!
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No, it's not 4G of RAM, he's saying that it is saying he has a 4G internal sdcard instead of 16/32/64 GB, RAM and storage are two different things.
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kieseyhow said:
Sorry about that. Looks like you found a den of thieves and scum; more common than most people realise. Sadly 80% of the human race is inncompetent. Find someone else.
Find the help manual online, then read up how to reset the device. Try that. However if this is a hardware problem, you will be hard pressed to find someone with the skills to repair it. Now, if you went to a third-world country, and looked in the shacks, you would find people who not only would ,but could replace those bad RAM circuits for you. Sadly you live, like I do, in Western society. First world with money, but third world in competence, decency and common sense.
Bottom ilne, those guys in that store, out-right lied to you, ruinig their future of any business from you in the process, very incompetent.
Second choice? They really were just that useless. You will have to try again, or end up doing what I do; fix it yourself.
First, try resetting it.
Second, activate developer options and find out detailed information about the "expected" capabilities of your device.
Third, try and repair it yourself.
Fourth, replace your device, but keep that defective one to test people for honesty and competence.
I did look online for you, and none of those Samsung came with only 4GB of RAM, none that I could find anyhow. So, it is either software, or hardware. software is a 10 minute fix you can do yourself with a factory reset. Hardware is something that only an experienced electronics tech or serious hobbiest (with a reflow station) could do by reflowing the solder for the RAM, or replacing some chips on the main board. Good luck!
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By resetting it if you mean unrooting it, I'm afraid to do that as it will be locked to whatever provider it was before. Someone told me that to do a factory reset will accomplish the same thing or maybe even brick the device.
I looked on developer options and the only thing that makes sense to me that might help is "debugging", and to do that I need to do more research as I don't know what debugging is all about. I have seriously considered replacing the phone, and will probably do that but I am a stubborn cuss and want to learn. Keeps my 70 year old brain from becoming 80.
cheers
Art

Well, what about installing a new ROM then? Try something based on Android 4.4; a version many consider the best.
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Install ADB on your computer, get a new ROM for your Note 2, and try it. There is always a risk, that is how life works. The best Note version, in my opinion, is the Note 4. See if you can find one second-hand? Then you can tinker with your Note 2 afterwards and experiment. There are minimalist ROMS that would even work on 4GB.
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retired911 said:
By resetting it if you mean unrooting it, I'm afraid to do that as it will be locked to whatever provider it was before. Someone told me that to do a factory reset will accomplish the same thing or maybe even brick the device.
I looked on developer options and the only thing that makes sense to me that might help is "debugging", and to do that I need to do more research as I don't know what debugging is all about. I have seriously considered replacing the phone, and will probably do that but I am a stubborn cuss and want to learn. Keeps my 70 year old brain from becoming 80.
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Art
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USB debugging is only to allow interfacing with the device via USB connection to PC, such as using adb/fastboot and other softwares used to interface the device while it's booted into system or recovery. It allows you to use software tools to debug the device, this is usually only used by developers when they are creating software for the device and are testing it or when using adb to push/pull files or capture logcats or any other adb commands.
Give me the model number of your Note 2 and I'll search for the stock 4.1.2 for your device or even a newer update if it's available and you want it, then I'll link you to all the tools and files you'll need to flash the firmware, it's similar to wiping and reinstalling windows on PC to return to factory version.
The term "Factory reset" in android is not the same as factory reset on PC. On PC it restores to exactly what was there from the factory. In android, it doesn't work like that, it only wipes the user space and doesn't touch system. Any changes to system will remain after resetting and only user data gets wiped, data you yourself put on the device such as apps you installed, pics you've downloaded or taken with camera. Factory reset in android DOES NOT remove root unless you're using SuperSU on systemless mode(systemless SuperSU is stored in /data partition instead of in system), your device most likely has SuperSU in /system partition instead of in /data partition, which means factory reset won't help you.
I'll help you get this fixed pretty quick if you give the info I need to help you.
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Well, what about installing a new ROM then? Try something based on Android 4.4; a version many consider the best.
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Install ADB on your computer, get a new ROM for your Note 2, and try it. There is always a risk, that is how life works. The best Note version, in my opinion, is the Note 4. See if you can find one second-hand? Then you can tinker with your Note 2 afterwards and experiment. There are minimalist ROMS that would even work on 4GB.
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Would love to get a note 4 but it doesn't come with FM radio tuner, and that is a must for me! But I think I will take your advice and look for a new phone (with FM) and then tinker with my note 2

There is an app, called "Tunin radio" that will receive most popular stations, and even local stations. I use it all the time.
Also, most phones have radios inside, but they are locked, and disabled. Nearly every Android phone has this blocked feature.
An even better option is to get a multi-band radio receiver dongle for your device. Some can recieve far more than just FM, but also AM, SSB, HAM, Police Fire, even the audio part of TV. Look for device with n RTL2832U chip, and you'll also need an OTG adaptor to power it. There are several apps that you can find with minimal research, and several forums where people are very passionate about such devices.
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retired911 said:
All the research I have done indicates that the Galaxy note2 was produced in 16/32/64GB models. I have a note 2 model GT-N7100 running android 4.1.2 that indicates it has 3.18GB storage on the phone with 2.38GB used. My phone is rooted (don't know if that affects the memory). I'm at my wit's end. I have to uninstall apps when I find a new one I'd like to try, and most other times there is not enough memory for apps to update. Sure could use some help. And just as a side note, I am 70 years old and my technological brain isn't firing on 8 cylinders anymore, so please be gentle. Thanks.
Art
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1) Go to this link and choose one of the 4.4.2 firmwares that will have the correct language.
https://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/galaxy-note-/GT-N7100/
2) Look in this thread for information about PIT, which one you might need and how to use it.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1927983
3) Then do a Google search for:
"USB drivers for Samsung phones"
It'll give you several links, get those successfully installed on your PC.
4) Install Odin 3.10 on your PC from this link
http://www.droidviews.com/download-odin-tool-for-samsung-galaxy-devices-all-versions/
5) Charge your battery to full.
6) Boot to download mode (with the device off, press power+home+volume down, when you see the caution screen press up to go to download)
7) Open Odin on PC
8) With device in download mode, connect to PC with the stock USB cord.(if it connects correctly you'll see a blue or yellow #comm box and it will say ADDED! in the dialogue box, if you don't get this then try a different USB port, make sure drivers installed correctly, make sure it's stock cord, restart PC)
9) If successfully connected, click the AP button(some versions of Odin have PDA instead of AP, click whichever one you have), browse to where you stored the stock firmware that you downloaded, select it.
10) If you're gonna use the PIT file, find the tab that says PIT in Odin, place the PIT you're using there.( I suggest you do some research and ask questions in a few places before actually using the PIT and to figure out whether you need to use it or how safe it is to do it, sometimes using PIT can do more harm than good, it just depends on the state of your device)
11) Click START in Odin, if everything is in order and done corectly, it will flash, if successful, you'll get a green PASS and the device will reboot into a fresh clean install.
***NOTE***
This will probably wipe all of your data so if there are apps or contacts or pics or any kind of personal data that you put on the device that you want to keep then you'll need to backup that data, there are several ways to backup your data. Since you have root, you can use Titanium Backup from the PlayStore to backup the apps you've installed and their data, your contacts and any other things that you want to keep, also keep a copy of Titanium Backup and the backup that you create in Titanium Backup on your extsdcard to prevent it from being wiped during the flash. When the device reboots after flashing, you can reinstall the copy of Titanium Backup from extsdcard and then use Titanium Backup to restore everything that you backed up. After all of this, you should end up with a clean install of 4.4.2 and all of your personal data restored to the device.
If you need help anywhere in all of that, just let me know. I'll be glad to help you understand and learn.
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kieseyhow said:
There is an app, called "Tunin radio" that will receive most popular stations, and even local stations. I use it all the time.
Also, most phones have radios inside, but they are locked, and disabled. Nearly every Android phone has this blocked feature.
An even better option is to get a multi-band radio receiver dongle for your device. Some can recieve far more than just FM, but also AM, SSB, HAM, Police Fire, even the audio part of TV. Look for device with n RTL2832U chip, and you'll also need an OTG adaptor to power it. There are several apps that you can find with minimal research, and several forums where people are very passionate about such devices.
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He can fix the one he has, it's fine for his purposes, no need to get another device.
Plus, in fixing this one, he learns something, which is what he's looking to do.
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I can't thank you all enough for all the help you've given me. I have a lot of homework ahead of me and look forward to the research. I'm going to read and study this thread again and research all the suggestions. But for now, the Penguins and Senators are going at it in game 1 of the Eastern Conference finals and I need to watch.
I checked, and the system says it's a GT-N7100 and so does the sticker behind the battery. Supersu is one of the apps on the phone. I have played with Supersu a bit but don't really understand it yet and none of my other apps were affiliated with it so I pretty much left it alone. Now on to hockey.
cheers
Art

retired911 said:
I can't thank you all enough for all the help you've given me. I have a lot of homework ahead of me and look forward to the research. I'm going to read and study this thread again and research all the suggestions. But for now, the Penguins and Senators are going at it in game 1 of the Eastern Conference finals and I need to watch.
I checked, and the system says it's a GT-N7100 and so does the sticker behind the battery. Supersu is one of the apps on the phone. I have played with Supersu a bit but don't really understand it yet and none of my other apps were affiliated with it so I pretty much left it alone. Now on to hockey.
cheers
Art
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If you flash with Odin, remember to store a copy of Titanium Backup app and the backup you create when you use it, place them both on extsdcard. Then for safety measures before flashing, remove the extsdcard and the SIM card if you have one, then flash, after flashing, put the extsdcard and SIM back in.
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Some excellent offers and advice, and I apologize for my lazy assistance. [emoji14] I hope you get it sorted out. For me, I think that the price of losing 12GB or storage is not worth rooting the phone. But, others have done it sucessfully, and there is no reason you cannot do the same. I still suggest you find a Note 4 though.
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Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!!!! I studied your instructions, I dived in and flashed my note 2. Odin said PASS! I now have Android 4.4.2. One problem remains. I now show 8GB total storage. system memory takes up 4.82gb. used space takes up another 1.55gb and misc files 1.3gb. Leaving me with 341 mb storage space. When I flashed I did not use the PIT file I downloaded. Should I reflash using the PIT file?
Just got another problem. The phone won't connect with my service provider.

retired911 said:
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!!!! I studied your instructions, I dived in and flashed my note 2. Odin said PASS! I now have Android 4.4.2. One problem remains. I now show 8GB total storage. system memory takes up 4.82gb. used space takes up another 1.55gb and misc files 1.3gb. Leaving me with 341 mb storage space. When I flashed I did not use the PIT file I downloaded. Should I reflash using the PIT file?
Just got another problem. The phone won't connect with my service provider.
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You should probably use the PIT so that it will restore your partitions to their correct order and sizes.
To flash the PIT, do exactly like you did when you flashed your firmware, put the firmware in the AP slot, then find the tab that says PIT, place the PIT there, then find the "options" tab in Odin, select "re-partition", this option tells Odin to use the PIT, you don't need to mess with the other options, they are fine at their default settings, all you need to mess with is selecting re-partition.
To help with not connecting to your service provider, did you make sure the firmware was for your region? Did you make sure it's compatible with your network type and and it's signal bands? Networks are different everywhere so you need to flash a stock firmware that is compatible with your region and carrier. I was hoping that a region that uses the same language as you would work, but it looks like you'll have to use a firmware that is compatible with your network and then after flashing you can manually change the language the firmware uses, if needed.
Or maybe you can leave the firmware you have flashed then download a firmware that has a compatible modem.bin and extract that modem.bin and flash it on your device to replace the modem.bin you have. You might can even find a compatible modem available for download without having to extract it from another firmware.
Have you tried emailing or calling your service provider to ask them which stock firmware for your model is compatible with their network? They might provide you with what you need or at least tell you exactly what you need so you can find it yourself.
Who is your service provider and what country are you in? I'll see what I can figure out for you.
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How does one figure out which is the right version to download for my phone? There are changelist numbers, PDA and CSC numbers, all of which tell me nothing. When I flashed to the UK version, it turned out to be with T-Mobile, and the carriers listed were Bell and Telus. I am with Speakout, (a 7-11 product) which piggybacks on the Rogers network. I have a pay as you go account with no data. It works on the GSM network. I live in Calgary, Canada.
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Art

I just flashed the phone again using the same firmware but this time adding the 16GB PIT file and repartitioning. Got a Pass from Odin but no change in the available storage. It still says I have only 8GB total storage. Thinking bad memory?