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[Q] New to Android, sgs or desire?

Hey guys,
Sorry if this is in the wrong thread, it is my first post. I am new to android and came from the iphone, the whole lockdown and apples marketing really annoyed me not to mention it cost and you had to have a mac to make apps. Im new to android and im eager to learn and develop some apps to contribute to the android community. I live in australia so I ofc have a limited number of options. My employer has the Desire and he loves it and thinks its great and my father recently bought the sgs which he also loves. After lots of research ive come to the conclusion that the sgs has better specs that arnt exactly neccessery for the bulk of things unless playing 3d games which isnt exactly the purpose of a phone however smart it is. The desire also seems to have a far better community, its built by htc and its build quality is great + it has flash. It cant play divx etc out of the box (desire) unlike the sgs but to be honest im not overly worried about 30seconds to install an app.. Sgs is with optus ($59, 2gb data $500 calls, unlimited texts). Deisre is with telstra ($58, 3gb data, 400 calls, texts arae 25c ea but i only send about 30 texts per month I mostly use msn). I also tether my phones a fair bit when at college etc and I want a decent music player.
Please help me with feedback it would be very appreciated and I look forward to contributing.
Also, if i do buy the sgs then it is a must by far that I remove the samsung bloat and flash it, the desire id also want to update to 2.2 asap.
- Dameize

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- getting the phone tomorrow so I need as much feedback asap

I got the desire because of the bigger community backing it seems to have. Oh, and it doesn't look like an iPhone.

Desire: Community, Sense, HTC

I'd search around on xda-developers, this is a very popular topic.
I went for the Galaxy S myself for the larger SAMOLED screen and the faster CPU (a little)/GPU (a lot). Both are good phones with their pros and cons though.

I sold my Iphone 3GS for a Galaxy S, never going back...brilliant device this SGS

Mithent said:
I'd search around on xda-developers, this is a very popular topic.
I went for the Galaxy S myself for the larger SAMOLED screen and the faster CPU (a little)/GPU (a lot). Both are good phones with their pros and cons though.
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I searched a lot but din get many threads on this topic. Can u plz give us some links. This poll goes to the desire but the response is too meagre.

so far so good. id recommend SGS, but make sure you do not get a hardlocked one. I bought mine off Craigslist(CL) for really cheap, but since then i regret buying it 3rd party. I ended up recieving a hardware locked phone. Now i understand why it was sold so cheaply. Due to buyers remorse, PLEASE make sure u get a hardware unlocked phone!!!!

EVO anyone?

[Q] Which phone to purchase

Hey guys,
I've been following xda-developers for last few months and it totally rocks.
Now I've been using Sony ericsson w950i (unlocked) until now.
Been thinking of moving to smart phone.
Now I'm confused, I don't care about carrier (though using ATT for now)
Here r choices: 1. Evo 2. DroidX 3. xperia X10
I don't want an iphone and I can't purchase Nexus One (which I would have if I had enough money :-/)
Anyway so here are criteria for phone:
1. Can be rooted, I like cynogenmod and I may hardly use original android
Here r few of my assumptions (PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong)
I can't use proprietary UIs if I put cynogen (it doesn't matter but I wanna confirm)
Evo is my ultimate choice but heard battery sucks (what about spare battery solution ?), How severe is battery issue?
Please feel free to provide ur opinion about other phones as well. I may eventually end up purchasing Evo still I want some experienced opinions
Thanks

Evo is a great phone. It IS starting to get old. Perhaps wait till christmas to see what new phones HTC brings out?
THe X10 is outdated and will most likely only ever see android 2.1 so Id steer clear of it. In fact, I dont intend on buying any more SE phones but thats just me. .
The droid x seems amazing, can be rooted but its quite big in hand (but i suppose youre looking at the EVO so thats similar )
Have you considered the Samsung Galaxy S phones? including the AT&T captivate?
They can be rooted, unlocked, will certainly see cyanogen mod development and because there are sooo many of them around now both locally and internationally (unlike droid x and evo), there will be lots of development for them. Specs wise, they are the top gun.
Personally, id wait a bit and see what comes around the corner. If you still want what youve listed here, youll get a better deal seeing as many will flock to the new devices
Cheers!

I love the Evo. It's my mini tiny PC. Battery wise, well it does juice it up quite much...but then again I am constantly on my fone so I got Ian charges, dock for home, n extra battery as well.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

Thanks guys,
As ozy pointed out waiting till Christmas/new year would be best possible option even for me, however don't want to renew my contract with ATT for one year just for that (will certainly look for something though)
And about Samsung phones I'm bit skeptic (fragile and get heated -- well thats 5-6 years back experience, never used it again so I'm not saying they r bad however I'm just being doubtful, though amoled screens r worth checking out)
And thanks anani exactly thats how I'm planning to use (though its on internet forever than on phone) I would appreciate if u can point out battery accessories links

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If you are happy with AT&T I would get the Captivate. I have an Evo, love it, but my wife gets her phone through work so is stuck with AT&T. She recently upgraded from the Iphone, which she always hated, to the Samsung captivate. I have rooted it (simple compared to the Evo) and done a few mods, got rid of AT&T's market censorship, enabled side loading, and got rid of all the AT&T bloatware, and replaced most of the supplied apps with better ones from the market.
Running it side by side with my Evo I have to say, while I like the Evo better, but it has some advantages. The screen is much better looking, it has slightly more responsive touch input than the Evo, and Touchwiz is a less bloated UI than Sense. On the downside, the only two things I can find to complain about with it is that the bottom buttons are not as responsive as the Evo's, and the GPS on it takes a long time to lock and isn't as sensitive as the Evo's is. I am working on improving the GPS now though with some success. It will also be getting Froyo within the next few weeks, and rumor is the button issue may be addressed with the update.
Overall though, I like the captivate, especially since the phone call quality is really good, it is light weight and seems to be built very well. Also the screen fps isn't capped at 30 fps like the Evo is. If I was on AT&T that is what I would get.

You don't even need to think about it
HTC Desire with OLED mon ...

Thanks wfrandy and seals,
I'm kinda annoyed with at&t network at my place, most of the time I've had complains from friends saying "I tried your phone for whole day" and etc plus I'm not really in for data usage cap. Thats the main reason I'm hanging on my old phone else I could have renewed my contract by now.
But yea Captivate seems nice and Samsung strategy to make phones as open as possible is also tempting.
And about Desire - is it available with any carrier? I thought desire is not available in US market

hmm,
So I've a deal for htc droid incredible, verizon is giving it for free.
What are your reviews? I liked phone the only downside to the phones we were comparing seems to be 3.7" screen and no 4g connectivity
Please let me know if anyone have used the phone
Thanks

Need a new phone / carrier, advice please.

Hello, I have a captivate with rogers at the moment and I have had enough with them. I am not happy with Rogers, their service is sketchy where I am. Bell and Telus have great service here, but I am leaning towards Bell because I have alot of other services with them, they have great coverage here, and It would seem they have the most attractive phone to me.
I am looking at the Motorola Atrix that will be released here soon, Is this a good choice ? What I would like in a phone is a dual core processor, 1GB RAM, and at least 16GB internal storage.
I know Samsung is coming out with a 4.5" phone that fits the above and the bigger the screen the better for me! But I have no idea who is going to carry it, when it will come, etc.
Is the Atrix a good phone to go to ? should I wait till there are more dual core options here in Canada ? are there any other ones announced with an arrival date ?
Thanks guys.

I've heard that the atrix isn't as impressive as it seems, but Samsung is slow at updates.
Sent from my SGH-I897

I don't know too much about the canadian carriers, but I just went through a similar phone switch on AT&T. I looked at the atrix, as well as the HTC Inspire HD (aka HTC Desire HD).
I'm not trying to convert you away from the Atrix, which is probably a great phone, but I eventually chose the Insipre for the following reasons:
- Solid build quality (The Inspire Snapdragon is a safer choice than a first gen dual-core for me, considering the good benchmark scores of the Inspire - easily good enough for me for awhile). For some reason the Atrix plastic cover and design seemed dated to me (but I generally like HTC's hardware designs anyway, and I like the extra weight in the device).
- HTC Sense > MotoBlur (both in style, and performance), but since I'll probably run custom ROMs it won't matter to me all that much (and for style, I'll probably end up with LaucherPro, ADW, etc as a launcher anyway).
- The Inspire boards seem to have a decent amount of Dev support on their side, though I'm sure I will really sadly miss Designgears wonderful work (pretty sure he's got an Atrix). Keep in mind the Inspire has a head-start with all the DesireHD rom work that's out there, the Atrix is likely going to get a bunch of support too.
- HTC has claimed the Desire HD will get 2.3 by the end of June, and HTC has been one of the more reliable companies for getting updates put out there. (I have no doubt that the Atrix will get 2.3, but will Moto try some new bootloader protection?)
That's it for now, as I probably should be working.
Just my opinions though, hopefully helps you in your decision.

Atrix would be a pretty nice phone, but I'm always kind of skeptical when it comes to Motorola Phones. I'd look into some HTC phones. In my experience, they are the overall best Android manufacturer. Not sure what phones are available in Canada though.

try LG optimus 3d. 4gb ram. dual core. highest quadrant score.

I was interested in the Atrix too. Judging by all the negative posts over in the Atrix forum, I think I'll pass on it. Do yourself a favour and pass on it as well. I too was not happy with Rogers, and switched to FIDO (I know same company). I've dealt with Bell on other issues (not cell phone) and they are no better. I do agree though I think their coverage area and network (Bell) is best.

Well I mean, hoe are you going to say he should or shouldn't get it if you haven't even used it? The best you can do is post your oppinions oon the device and what you do and don't like.
However, I have it and I'm taking it back. Not because it is a bad phone or there are things wrong with it, but I just don't want to use my upgrade right now and I don't need the phone.
It has a higher resolution so things are smaller and crisper, allowing you to see more things at one time.
The phone is amazingly fast and the high amount of RAM lets you have many apps in the background without slowing down at all.
The battery life is great, and people areg reporting great life with the phone; I couldn't complain.
All in all, if you aren't going to upgrade to a custom kernel, then youll be good to go.
Anymore qquestions, feel free to ask.

Which of these two phones to buy?

I'm searching for the best replacement for my good old "Super" HD2.
I'm trying to decide between HTC Sensation or Samsung Galaxy S2.
Anyone can help me decide?
They are both very good phones and i'm thinking of trying the SGS2 because i have been a Big fan of HTC and Sence, but now I starting to get curious about SGS2.
Please give me some help decide.
I'm going to post this same question on the SGS2 forum to compare the answers.
Thanks

RRibeiro said:
I'm searching for the best replacement for my good old "Super" HD2.
I'm trying to decide between HTC Sensation or Samsung Galaxy S2.
Anyone can help me decide?
They are both very good phones and i'm thinking of trying the SGS2 because i have been a Big fan of HTC and Sence, but now I starting to get curious about SGS2.
Please give me some help decide.
I'm going to post this same question on the SGS2 forum to compare the answers.
Thanks
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I think from this thread you will get everyone telling you to get the sensation and the one on the SgS2 forum they will be telling you to get that
I say try both and decide for yourself, after all it's you that's using it

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From all the reviews and tests I read on the net, SGS2 wins all the most important ones, but I'm thinking that HTC is always a better phone for the future becose developers tend to turn to HTC devices more that others.
So I think that with Sensation I will get more costume Roms and more unofficial develepment.

For me the most important is not the present speed of the phones, because I know that will change in the future with new roms and costume roms.
The most important for me is the Costume roms support and unofficial developers support.

RRibeiro said:
I'm searching for the best replacement for my good old "Super" HD2.
I'm trying to decide between HTC Sensation or Samsung Galaxy S2.
Anyone can help me decide?
They are both very good phones and i'm thinking of trying the SGS2 because i have been a Big fan of HTC and Sence, but now I starting to get curious about SGS2.
Please give me some help decide.
I'm going to post this same question on the SGS2 forum to compare the answers.
Thanks
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Got my Sensation yesterday unlocked on Vodafone upgrade. I have to say that after using SGS2 for 4 weeks Sensation is little bit disappointment. Available memory out of the box with no apps installed is about 140MB (compared to 520MB on SGS2). Can't get used to new Sense UI but I've loved it on my old Hero. SGS2 also is much faster out of the box. Sensation feels nice in the hand, it's more "solid" compared to plastic SGS2 but seems to be a little bulky and not as sleek as SGS2. One thing i've found better on Sensation is wifi signal strength which is really good. As i am quite impatient person i don't wanna wait for unlocked bootloader too. I'm sorry HTC, but Sensation goes on sale. :/
Bear in mind that is my personal opinion.
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SGS is very easy to flash, you can even unlock it to sim free with no hassle. Regarding custom roms Samsung gave free SGS2 to Cyanogen team, so soon we should expect some CM7 love. Also MIUI port is coming soon.

bconover93 said:
Phonedog did a dogfight between them
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mc4_LsNxoZY&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Sent from my CM7 Backflip
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Like the phonedog said, htc had done a good job on customization. Its have 3D!! WOW!!!..compare to SGS2, no 3D..bored same as my LGO2X which I already sold

Again, why can't these people use the search button to search for a "asked for not once, but more than a million times question"? Dude, this is really getting from irresponsible to stupidity... Please, use the search button...

LittleMerc said:
Again, why can't these people use the search button to search for a "asked for not once, but more than a million times question"? Dude, this is really getting from irresponsible to stupidity... Please, use the search button...
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Thank you for your verry helpfull post...

Well, I made up my mind and just bought the SGS 2 because of the better Hardware.
Thanks for the tips.

I'm searching for the best replacement for my good old "Super" HD2.
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But without using any search buttons, it would seem.

I think there's another thread about that question somewhere.
I went back and forth on the spec for hours and hours. However, once I got to play with both phones in the store the answer was clear in a matter of seconds.
While you can't buy a bad phone between these two, you can certainly buy the wrong one for you. Optimized ROMS will find their way to both phones sooner or later, so I wouldn't worry about performance too much. How the phone feels in your hand or how you experience qHD vs SuperAMOLED+ is hard to change though. I highly recommend you go out and try both phones.

In all honesty, The Galaxy S II may have slightly better hardware, but TouchWiz ruins it. I know that you've already decided, but as far as overrall phones, no one beats HTC.

Hardware isn't slightly better, it's much better. Only metal casing, wifi strength and screen resolution (but not a screen quality) is better in Sensation. Personally as soon as I rooted my SGS2 I started using ADW Launcher. Now I'm using Regina 3D Launcher and really love it!

I don't care how good the hardware on the Samsung is compare to Sensation,I'll go with HTC everyday. All Samsung phone is a piss of ****, it feel like a toy ,cheap plastic, it'll breakdown in no time. Samsung always want to be ahead on tech and rushing their release making their phone plan rubbish.

RRibeiro said:
Well, I made up my mind and just bought the SGS 2 because of the better Hardware.
Thanks for the tips.
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I would have done the same thing if I could. I am with T-Mobile so I wouldn't get 3G from it so that would make it basically worthless to me. I am also a big HTC fan, I have only ever owned HTC Android phones since the G1 but the SGS2 does have better hardware specs. I am jealous of their ram and 21mbps data speed. If the Sensation came with those two things it would make it the perfect phone to me.

Good reasons why I should choose the Sensation?

Can someone give me good reasons why I should choose the htc sensation 4g over the g2x or the mytouch4g?

Some of my reasons are
Excellent build quality, in my opinion anyways
qHD display
4.3" screen
dual core 1.2 ghz snap dragon
probably will have good dev support
many more just cant think right now

If you have more, let me know I'm really interested in getting this phone

lee714 said:
If you have more, let me know I'm really interested in getting this phone
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Well i would definitively get the sensation over any other phone tmobile is currently selling. The only other phone i might consider getting over the sensation is the galaxy s II which is not available on tmobile and may never be. Any ways i would definitely get the sensation. its much much better then the mytouch 4g and in my opinion much better then the g2x. the only pro i see that the g2x has over the sensation is stock android but since the sensation may get root soon a stock rom may be in the soon future. I really cant recommend any one to buy a mytouch4g or any single core phone now because dual core is the new and soon many apps and games will probably be optimized/run only on dual/multi core

If you have to ask for someone else opinion as to why you should buy a phone, then you probably dont need it.
Seriously. You can check the specs out on line yourself and see the differences.
Compare the specs and choose the phone that is right for you. Dont buy something because someone tells you its good.

take it from a g2x owner, you don't want that phone. the mytouch 4g is good, i loved it but its not the highest on the market anymore. the mytouch 4g slide thats coming out has higher specs. sensation is by far the best but you shouldn't have to ask someone else for their opinion or thoughts. its up to you!