Database Info

Hero or the Backflip

Hi,
I am new to this forum.
I have joined because I have many questions to ask haha.
I'm currently looking to buy a new cellphone.
Right now I am looking at the HTC Hero or the Moto Backflip, but I am also open to suggestions.
What I'm looking for is a solid phone that would last me a good 2-3 years, with a touchscreen and wifi are musts.
I have heard that Android is probably the best OS out there, so i would highly prefer it.
A qwerty keyboard would be nice since i like to use MSN on it. However, it's not a must have.
What i usually do on the phone is just browsing some web pages, youtube, msn, and facebook using wifi.
I do not want a data plan that is why I am looking to buy the phone unlocked on ebay.
My maximum budget is 400 dollars.
Now my question is,
I heard that the hero is a great cellphone, and I am willing to pay an extra 100$ over the backflip's price to get it if it is indeed a great phone.
Would you guys suggest me get the hero? or to get the backflip that has a qwerty keyboard? I have heard that the backflip will have android 2.1 on it, is the update out already??
Or if you guys can suggest another good phone that would be great too!
The price on ebay:
$400 for hero
$300 for Backflip

Please give me some suggestions!
I have read in another thread someone said the Hero is outdated already???
Hasn't it only been out for about half a year only?
If it is outdated, what phone should I go for that is within my price range??
thanks

Hero 100%. Better design, HTC, support, not crippled, gorgeous looking, the list goes on. The backflip has no support from here, and personally I think it's basically the GSM version of the devour. Ugly, boring, no support, and you never see em'

Please get neither if you are willing to spend 400. Both phones are a bit outdated and will have a hard time holding up 2-3 years. Get a nexus one or a Droid (milestone ) for that price
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App

greengoldmello said:
Please get neither if you are willing to spend 400. Both phones are a bit outdated and will have a hard time holding up 2-3 years. Get a nexus one or a Droid (milestone ) for that price
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for your opinion!
I found that the milestone might be a good option since it's within my price range and has a physicial keyboard.
The $600 nexus ones on ebay are a bit beyond what I am willing to spend haha.
So will the Motorola Milestone be the best choice if I have $400?
How's the processor??

Motorola Milestone is an ok choice, but you should try it out first. I would rather stay with HTC devices.

What HTC device would you recommend me to get then ?

Hey, so I'm looking into buying a new phone and the now I'm down to the hero and the backflip. I have never had an android phone before so the phone I decide on can't be too complicated. I'm 14 and I text a lot so the phone has to be able to type easily and fast. Please give me advice if you have experience with one or both of these phones.

Is there any other advices?
I am buying my new handset soon!

+1 for the n1 as already suggested above. You can also look at the HTC Aria or Samsung Captivate.

Unfortunately the Nexus one and the other ones you suggested are somewhat beyond my price range $400 is really my maximum. Unless I can get a used one somewhere ...

As it is one of your original options, I will give my opinion on it : The hTC Hero
Had one of these for a while (by my standards) for now, and its a pretty solid device. Okay, it isn't the fastest processor, and it has likely recieved its last official rom, but i love it
Have just got Éclair running on it, and there are noticeable differences since android 1.5, although no live wallpapers (not that i see this as much of a loss, as I don't tend to just sit and stare at my home screen, i try to use the phone)
There are plenty of apps for it, plenty of custom roms, and a sizeable (albeit not the biggest) user base on xda.
The build quality is pretty decent - it has withstanded my daughter standing, jumping, chewing, and dribbling all over it, so it has passed that test for me.
In my opinion, the downside is the camera - there is no flash. But even then, it is not the worst camera I have had on a phone.
Hope that helps

If you are on ATT and you have $400 you should go with the HTC Aria you can get it off contract for $350. Even though its only a mid level phone it is a much better and newer phone then the Hero and the Backflip.

DangerPanda said:
Unfortunately the Nexus one and the other ones you suggested are somewhat beyond my price range $400 is really my maximum. Unless I can get a used one somewhere ...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
you can find a nexus one around here for around $400..and you can buy the unlocked/off-contract HTC Aria and Samsung Captivate for $350 each.

£200-300 Budget: New Phone

Hiya guys, avid follower of the forum (have been flashing phones since I brought my HTC Touch two years ago).
I'm in the market for a new phone to use on a sim only contract and would prefer not to spend more than £300.
I'd been pretty set upon the HTC Wildfire up until recently as many reviewed have complained of its low resolution (I'm been using my Touch and Kaiser at 320x240 with no complaints but it nice to feel like my money has brought a proper upgrade).
Therefore I've widened my view to a few different options;
Refurbished HTC Hero from Three £160: similar specs but higher res/older processor? Probably my preferred option a little research until some wiki research told me that the MSM 7225 in the Wildfire is a cousin of the Snapdragon in the Desire and has a similar GPU? If the Wildfire is really more powerful then I'd thought maybe the low res is worth it?
LG GT540 Optimus £110: Has native Divx support which is a huge bonus to me but really want to avoid another resistive screen.
HTC Desire/Samsung Galaxy S £320 with possible store discount from a friend: Both of these seem super impressive but I'm very reluctant to shell out so much cash when I don't really need all the extra bells and whistles they provide. The Galaxy GPU has impressed me a lot though.
Sony Ericcson X1: £210
Thanks for your time and as I've said any opinions will greatly appreciated as I struggle to make a decision.

I would personally go for the the galaxy s or desire, although the hero is still a decent phone. The X1 is a nice phone as well, but not worth it at that price

Okay mate, thanks for the opinion.
I'm kind of leaning towards the Wildfire now as I'm hearing it gets decent performance on Rockplayer and beng able to play Divx files while I travel would be a godsend.
Has anyone got experience with Rockplayer on HTC Hero?

[Q] Which phone to purchase

Hey guys,
I've been following xda-developers for last few months and it totally rocks.
Now I've been using Sony ericsson w950i (unlocked) until now.
Been thinking of moving to smart phone.
Now I'm confused, I don't care about carrier (though using ATT for now)
Here r choices: 1. Evo 2. DroidX 3. xperia X10
I don't want an iphone and I can't purchase Nexus One (which I would have if I had enough money :-/)
Anyway so here are criteria for phone:
1. Can be rooted, I like cynogenmod and I may hardly use original android
Here r few of my assumptions (PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong)
I can't use proprietary UIs if I put cynogen (it doesn't matter but I wanna confirm)
Evo is my ultimate choice but heard battery sucks (what about spare battery solution ?), How severe is battery issue?
Please feel free to provide ur opinion about other phones as well. I may eventually end up purchasing Evo still I want some experienced opinions
Thanks

Evo is a great phone. It IS starting to get old. Perhaps wait till christmas to see what new phones HTC brings out?
THe X10 is outdated and will most likely only ever see android 2.1 so Id steer clear of it. In fact, I dont intend on buying any more SE phones but thats just me. .
The droid x seems amazing, can be rooted but its quite big in hand (but i suppose youre looking at the EVO so thats similar )
Have you considered the Samsung Galaxy S phones? including the AT&T captivate?
They can be rooted, unlocked, will certainly see cyanogen mod development and because there are sooo many of them around now both locally and internationally (unlike droid x and evo), there will be lots of development for them. Specs wise, they are the top gun.
Personally, id wait a bit and see what comes around the corner. If you still want what youve listed here, youll get a better deal seeing as many will flock to the new devices
Cheers!

I love the Evo. It's my mini tiny PC. Battery wise, well it does juice it up quite much...but then again I am constantly on my fone so I got Ian charges, dock for home, n extra battery as well.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

Thanks guys,
As ozy pointed out waiting till Christmas/new year would be best possible option even for me, however don't want to renew my contract with ATT for one year just for that (will certainly look for something though)
And about Samsung phones I'm bit skeptic (fragile and get heated -- well thats 5-6 years back experience, never used it again so I'm not saying they r bad however I'm just being doubtful, though amoled screens r worth checking out)
And thanks anani exactly thats how I'm planning to use (though its on internet forever than on phone) I would appreciate if u can point out battery accessories links

lengthy bump..

If you are happy with AT&T I would get the Captivate. I have an Evo, love it, but my wife gets her phone through work so is stuck with AT&T. She recently upgraded from the Iphone, which she always hated, to the Samsung captivate. I have rooted it (simple compared to the Evo) and done a few mods, got rid of AT&T's market censorship, enabled side loading, and got rid of all the AT&T bloatware, and replaced most of the supplied apps with better ones from the market.
Running it side by side with my Evo I have to say, while I like the Evo better, but it has some advantages. The screen is much better looking, it has slightly more responsive touch input than the Evo, and Touchwiz is a less bloated UI than Sense. On the downside, the only two things I can find to complain about with it is that the bottom buttons are not as responsive as the Evo's, and the GPS on it takes a long time to lock and isn't as sensitive as the Evo's is. I am working on improving the GPS now though with some success. It will also be getting Froyo within the next few weeks, and rumor is the button issue may be addressed with the update.
Overall though, I like the captivate, especially since the phone call quality is really good, it is light weight and seems to be built very well. Also the screen fps isn't capped at 30 fps like the Evo is. If I was on AT&T that is what I would get.

You don't even need to think about it
HTC Desire with OLED mon ...

Thanks wfrandy and seals,
I'm kinda annoyed with at&t network at my place, most of the time I've had complains from friends saying "I tried your phone for whole day" and etc plus I'm not really in for data usage cap. Thats the main reason I'm hanging on my old phone else I could have renewed my contract by now.
But yea Captivate seems nice and Samsung strategy to make phones as open as possible is also tempting.
And about Desire - is it available with any carrier? I thought desire is not available in US market

hmm,
So I've a deal for htc droid incredible, verizon is giving it for free.
What are your reviews? I liked phone the only downside to the phones we were comparing seems to be 3.7" screen and no 4g connectivity
Please let me know if anyone have used the phone
Thanks

[Q] nexus s vs. samsung galaxy s

hi there
i want to buy a phone i am confused between nexus s and samsung galaxy s i9000?
can you please suggest which should i buy and why ???
i have seen performance of sgs it a very nice phone dont know abt ns1

Kindly use the search feature please. We dont need another thread like this
*angry bird face*

aarif_ziaee said:
hi there
i want to buy a phone i am confused between nexus s and samsung galaxy s i9000?
can you please suggest which should i buy and why ???
i have seen performance of sgs it a very nice phone dont know abt ns1
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The main difference is going to be your update frequency (IMHO), but custom roms can fix that problem. Bounce around the two forums and see which you like better, head up youtube and watch review videos, check out the development going on for each, then make an educated decision as to which is best for you.
That's about all the input I'm interested in giving before echoing slowz request.
EDIT: I'm feeling generous, call it residual holiday cheer

[Q] Nexus S better dans GT-I9000?
Hi everyone.
I was wondering something about this new Nexus S....
I'm currently the owner of a Samsung Galaxy S GT-I9000M From Bell in Canada.
Today at CES 2011 they said that the Nexus S will come to Canada.
I got 4 replacement for the GT-I9000M since August (in fact since october). The internal Memory Failed, The battery life was poor, 3 button recovery was not enabled, GPS innacurate, Hard time connecting it to my computer and all the stuff said in bad about this phone I got it.....
Since the Nexus S is almost the same (hardware speaking) I was wondering if all the bugs that the SGS suffer from was happening with the Nexus S?
Is the Partition Table is the same?
Do Internal Memory Fail once again?
Is there any issue with Recovery mode?
GPS problems?
Poor battery life?
Any Lag issue?
I really enjoy my SGS when it's not failing but the Nexus S attract me a little more since it got 2.3 and update straight from Google instead of waiting after the carrier "testing" the new rom...
So anyone having or tested both phone or can speak with experience in here?
Thanx

One of the main reason I don't want to get any trouble with the phone is that Samsung got the worst customer service ever seen in electronics (home appliances, tv, phones)...
so the less I have to deal with them the best it is.
Samsung said they are open the put it on the AWS network in canada so if the phone is good, this could be the phone that will make me switch from Rogers to Videotron

No offense, but you're asking in a Nexus S forum what phone we'd prefer. Most of us own a Nexus S. So what do you think the answer is going to be?
Frankly I am not sure why you are having so many problems. I have an SGS for work and it works great. I bought the Nexus S to replace my G1 and it's like a dream compared to my G1. You could always get one and try it out. If you don't like it, return it.

booyakasha said:
The main difference is going to be your update frequency (IMHO), but custom roms can fix that problem. Bounce around the two forums and see which you like better, head up youtube and watch review videos, check out the development going on for each, then make an educated decision as to which is best for you.
That's about all the input I'm interested in giving before echoing slowz request.
EDIT: I'm feeling generous, call it residual holiday cheer
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

In fact the same thread is on the GT-I9000 Q&A forum. I want to see on both sime your opinions.
But I was thinking that maybe someone here had or also have the GT-I9000 as secondary or previous smartphone. So I could get some feedback and difference

Teranox said:
In fact the same thread is on the GT-I9000 Q&A forum. I want to see on both sime your opinions.
But I was thinking that maybe someone here had or also have the GT-I9000 as secondary or previous smartphone. So I could get some feedback and difference
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have both. GT i9000 was my main phone from July until I got the Nexus S.
They're both fine pieces of hardware.
Software-wise, the GT i9000 was a train wreck out of the box. The Samsung RFS file system introduces significant lag to the phone. I know some of the later "leaked builds" of Sammy firmware seem to have addressed this, but I'm not sure if you bought a new one that you'd get it. That means to make the i9000 a pleasurable user experience you must root it and put in custom kernels and "lag-fixes". If you're into that kind of thing, lots of support and options. If you're not, you will definitely prefer the out-of-the-box performance of the NS.
I much prefer the Nexus S physically. It looks and feels better. Has a bit more heft and doesn't feel like I'm going to drop it as much.
I prefer the standard four capacitive buttons on the NS, but miss the trackball of the N1 or physical home button of the SGS. On the SGS the home button is just like the iPhone button in that it will wake the device from sleep...only the power button does that on the NS.
The power button on the NS is a bit easier to hit one handed than on the SGS for some reason.
As I said, they're both fine phones. If you're a ROM flasher, then there are only two real determining factors in my mind that you should consider.
The first is how important is it to you that you have Google's flagship phone that is most likely to get software updates to the base OS fastest (if that's important the Nexus S is your choice).
The second is which network do you want to use, and which phone supports the best 3G speeds on that network. In the US, if you want AT&T 3G service, you must pick the i9000; if you want T-Mo 3G you must pick the Nexus S.
I'm not a huge fan of T-Mo as my primary carrier, so the SGS still has some allure to me, but if network wasn't an issue (ie., there was options for AT&T or Verizon Nexus S and i9000) then the Nexus S would be a no brainer!

Hello!
I've read all the comparison out there and I haven't really decided which one should I buy. I've read the hardware is the same but the benchmarks tests are showing different (the nexus always win?) Is the screen on the nexus worse due that it's not gorilla and that it is S-LCD ? I've heard that galaxy S has many lags and such, so my question is does nexus s have any "known bugs" ?
I really appreciate your answers!

ExtremeGMX said:
Hello!
I've read all the comparison out there and I haven't really decided which one should I buy. I've read the hardware is the same but the benchmarks tests are showing different (the nexus always win?) Is the screen on the nexus worse due that it's not gorilla and that it is S-LCD ? I've heard that galaxy S has many lags and such, so my question is does nexus s have any "known bugs" ?
I really appreciate your answers!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nice resurrection of a 9 month old thread...
The nexus will benchmark and generally run faster/smoother thanks to it's native EXT4 file system. The screen isn't worse, it's just more fragile than gorilla glass (though neither is likely to withstand a hard enough fall).

Get the Nexus. SGS has a slow moviNAND memory on which the app data partition is. Thats why it's laggy like ****. 2.3* brought improvement in RFS, so the conversion to EXT4 (lagfix) ain't needed/doesn't make a difference. Maybe it doesn't show that much, if you don't install many apps, but when comparing SGS and NS side by side, everyone could noticed that lag on SGS. GPS is also worse and the build quality.
Maybe only thing I *could* miss is the AMOLED from SGS (on SLCD now), but on the other hand, AMOLED sucks balls on the sun, SLCD is much better. And that kinda is more important, then the black blacks.
Who cares what the HW specs tell you, or the benchmarks. It's hard to actually rate the phone, since no one can tell you the quirks of a device, if he ain't an experienced and technical knowledgeable user.
I know what I'm talking about, since I went from Desire to SGS in June, now I'm ****ing happy I could sold it and buy the Nexus. Everything works like a charm here, no need to flash 923 ROM's and fixes or whatever. I was constantly "improving" my SGS over 3 months, since I was never happy with it. Check the SGS forums, full of posts "how to improve that", "lagfix", "thisfix", blabla. Here on NS forums, it's rather dull (thank god).
Hope that makes your decision easier.

Thanks for your opinions! I bought the Nexus S today and it's awesome compared to my old Omnia II (če bi vedel, bi mi lahko kar po slo. povedal heh )
P.S. Just ignore the words in brackets, because I am from the same country as madd0g.

[Q] Sprint Tablet Help-Is ZTE Optik V55 worth contract/Replacment Alternatives?

First, you guys are awesome. I have learned so much from this site and did my first successful root a few days ago on another phone.
There is a great thread on the ZTE Optik V55, which seems to be a niche thread and not widely used model. The guys on there seemed to have put in so much work to get kernels, roots, and at creating roms-which look like they have flaws.
I purchased tablet because of its specs, was a store model I got for $81, but mainly because I have a sprint contract that I am tied into because of the awful HTC Evo shift. I missed special they had of 300MB for $15, so am now paying $35 for 3GB...the insurance costs $13/mo...you can buy them on ebay for $81...depending on availability obviously...I cancelled it.
I hate Honeycomb...runs on 3.2, 1GB and 1.2 Dual Core S3 may as well be a 256kb and chip from 90's, but I love the battery 4000mAh...wifi and bluetooth are great, and if i use it as a remote desktop, 95% of my problems go away. I know I only paid $81 for it, but does anybody who has rooted, flashed, and optimized it love it enough to be their tablet through 2014? Also, I wont waste anyones time with rooting or rom questions, that just takes time to learn and skill by the people who developed. What can i run to optimize it?
Does anyone have a replacement suggestion from sprint that has 3G/4G?...hate IOS, the HTC evo view had an S2 snapdragon...the specs from the optik looked to be much better....and I am not a huge HTC fan?
Epic 4G Touch SPH-D710
ZTE Optik V55