Hello to Sensation world,
I've just arrived from Sony Ericsson x10 world and i'm new to htc, specially sensation.
I now that my warranty voids if I root my device. Is there any way to return it to stock state, unroot and with stock rom so I can send it to the service if I have any problem???
It's the only thing I wanna now, after that, all the doors are opened!
Thank's in advance
Everything you need to know about S-OFF, rooting, debranding and going back.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
I honestly think the Sensation is the first phone I've had that if you did a factory restore you'd still have to do some work to get S=On...I'd go to the above link to make sure you can do it before taking that risk.
I heard that RUU gives you back S-ON and probably warranty (not sure because I haven't tried it yet)
Oh, and RUU = Rom Update Utility. In case you didn't know because you are new
Swyped from my HTC Sensation
Even if you sent your phone back with S=OFF...do they check for that? I sent 2 mytouch 4g's back with S=OFF and it never prevented me from getting an exchange.
idavid_ said:
I heard that RUU gives you back S-ON and probably warranty (not sure because I haven't tried it yet)
Oh, and RUU = Rom Update Utility. In case you didn't know because you are new
Swyped from my HTC Sensation
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I did RUU and it didn't give me S=ON...actually NOTHING I tried work. I wanted to restore my phone back to stock for a exchange because it was lagging terribly. I finally said, forget it..flashed Leedroids which I didn't like then flashed Android Revolution HD, phone stopped lagging after that so I kept it.
I"m pretty new at this so I think my terminology is backwards.
I already s-off and rooted it. Hope not to have any problems...
Sincerely I don't find any difference between the stock rom and the custom roms, and almost the same.
it would be nice to easily turn s-on as needed but honestly? I've returned several rooted phones. Never told I voided warranty...because I don't think they check!
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A little late, but if you read the sticky in dev section, it says how to get S-ON back. You will need ADB
Swyped from my HTC Sensation
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Anyone seen this? http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...rn-htc-phones-including-evo-3d-and-sensation/
It says support for the Thunderbolt is in the works as well. Pretty exciting, especially for those users who haven't rooted yet for one reason or another.
Cannot wait for Unrevoked to get to the ThunderBolt... thanks for sharing
Yes. It's awesome!
Ok, so I got a replacement bolt from FedEx yesterday and almost immediately went to the rooting process. I used Revolutionary for S-Off and I must say it couldn't have been easier. I'm quite pleased with the results on that front. BUT...
Now, no one can hear me when I'm on a call with them and, after trying different radios. I think it's time to return to stock so, I can troubleshoot some more and, possibly, send it back as defective (which I'm thinking was the case from the get-go). I wish I had the forethought to test the phone prior to rooting.
So, my question is, Does ANYONE know how to get S-On after Revolutionary?! I'm starting to get uneasy. Never had this problem before.
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Ok, so I got a replacement bolt from FedEx yesterday and almost immediately went to the rooting process. I used Revolutionary for S-Off and I must say it couldn't have been easier. I'm quite pleased with the results on that front. BUT...
Now, no one can hear me when I'm on a call with them and, after trying different radios. I think it's time to return to stock so, I can troubleshoot some more and, possibly, send it back as defective (which I'm thinking was the case from the get-go). I wish I had the forethought to test the phone prior to rooting.
So, my question is, Does ANYONE know how to get S-On after Revolutionary?! I'm starting to get uneasy. Never had this problem before.
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Ok well first to alleviate your concerns it is possible. My guess is that they just haven't released their s-on tool yet. You can do it yourself but YOU MUST BE VERY CAREFUL. This thread's OP explains the process. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1186022 HOWEVER you will need a few things first. ADB and fastboot installed and working along with knowledge of how to use them. Plus you will need the enghboot.nbo file extracted from the exploits.zip located in JCase's original root tutorial. This is a download link for the exploits.zip file. ~~> http://www.multiupload.com/K4BZ22SIT5
Unzipped that file to find the enghboot.nbo. IMPORTANT!!! CHECK THE MD5 SUM OF THE EXTRACTED ENGHBOOT.NBO FILE!!!!! It should be this ~>
"6991368ee2deaf182048a3ed9d3c0fcb"
Once you follow the directions from the first link you will still be rooted with s-off but now you can follow the directions in the OP of this thread to get back to stock unrooted s-on. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1009423
Just follow directions for rooted users. Be sure to flash the no_hboot_MR1 FIRST. THEN flash the s-on hboot.
Sent from my HTC Thunderbolt
I rooted my phone yesterday with the Revelutionary S-off tool , it took 5 - 10 minutes , was the easiest root I have ever done. Flashed LGS v1.6 yesterday and everything is great with my phone. Just have to follow the instructions .
Sent from my LTE 4G Thunderbolt
jbh00jh said:
I rooted my phone yesterday with the Revelutionary S-off tool , it took 5 - 10 minutes , was the easiest root I have ever done. Flashed LGS v1.6 yesterday and everything is great with my phone. Just have to follow the instructions .
Sent from my LTE 4G Thunderbolt
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I did follow the instructions and, as I stated before, I had absolutely no trouble getting s-off, root, or cwm. All I can say to you is, you best hope you don't have any issues where you need to send your phone in to VZW. As of this moment, there is apparently no easy way back to s-on.
There's a reason I don't include this in my qANDa for noobs thread....
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I did follow the instructions and, as I stated before, I had absolutely no trouble getting s-off, root, or cwm. All I can say to you is, you best hope you don't have any issues where you need to send your phone in to VZW. As of this moment, there is apparently no easy way back to s-on.
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I don't worry about going back to s - on . If the phone needs to go back to vzw , it will be as a phone that fell out of a window and got smashed. Collect the insurance and buy a new one.
I have rooted every htc phone from the xv6600 to the Thunderbolt and never had to send one back., why start now ??
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jbh00jh said:
I don't worry about going back to s - on . If the phone needs to go back to vzw , it will be as a phone that fell out of a window and got smashed. Collect the insurance and buy a new one.
Sent from my LTE 4G Thunderbolt
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lol! I understand what you're saying man. But, my current situation isn't quite as simple as that. Thanks though.
I rooted using this method yesterday. So far so good. No issues yet.. Still running the stock ROM though.. Currently trying to decide which one I wanna jump in to
Rooted my brothers Thunderbolt the day the Revolutionary tool was released supporting the Tbolt, and no issues so far. He upgraded from an Incredible that I rooted and flashed a custom Rom/Kernel. He almost returned it to go back to his Incredible, until I rooted his Tbolt and flashed a custom Rom/Kernel. He's a happy camper now, I'm still sticking to my Incredible!! I wish I had 4g, DL speed is insanely fast.
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I rooted using this method yesterday. So far so good. No issues yet.. Still running the stock ROM though.. Currently trying to decide which one I wanna jump in to
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LiquidGingersense v1.6 is very smooth and fast.
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Liquid Gingersense v1.6
I rooted, my Gf's Sensation.
Easiest job ever
+1
Sent from my LTE 4G Thunderbolt
Worked perfectly rooting the latest OTA
Sent from my HTC ThunderBolt using XDA App
The root process went perfect, by far much easier than my Inspire 4g. This phone still has the same problems as it did prior to the root n' rom, slow navigation & horrible touch recognition. After the new rom got put on cell service deminished to nearly nothing and has not changed no matter what radio i install. some it just breaks the radio all together and sais no sim...
I will be smashing this phone and enjoying every minute of it!
Do it and get your insurance and buy one that works.
Sent from my LTE 4G Thunderbolt
Any benefit to using jcase's original root method over this one? Rooted mine a while back but my girl should be getting hers this month?
First time posting in xda. 7 more and I can post anywhere. Can't begin to tell you how many times I had bugs I wanted to report after flashing a brand new released ROM.
Revolutionary root is just so damn easy. I used Unrevoked's 1 Click root to root my Incredible and that was easy , but this is easier . 5 -10 minutes and you are rooted. And I have not had ANY problems . Have flashed three roms without anything going wrong.
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I've checked every possible tag in my mind about this and couldn't find one for Sensation.
Is it possible to revet back to the original state before the Revolutionary. Is it possible to completely uninstall the Revolutionary from my phone?
I'm not talking about the s-off -> s-on
I'm talking about returning the phones software to its original state.
Like it is never installed in the first place.
Thank you.
It's funny because last weekend I wanted to do exactly the same thing.
What I learnt was to go from S-OFF back to S-ON can be quite fiddly and tricky, abd if you mess it up rub the risk of bricking your phone.
In order to get the stock Rom, here is the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074559
Now it's just a case of finding which one you are, and your ril and radio.
Good luck
Thank you for your answer. But this is not what I want I can do this already but when I check the bootloader I see the pink "Locked" and it tells me that Revolutionary is still there.
I can go to S-On without any trouble that is not what I am asking.
What I am asking is to be able to get rid of every little bit of coding about the Revolutionary and return my phone to its original bootloader software.
If is says locked then ur good since that's what it said when you bought the phone.
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moshe22 said:
If is says locked then ur good since that's what it said when you bought the phone.
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When I get my phone there wasn't such writing. It is the product of Revolutionary.
So it is still there. I want to be able to get rid of it.
I'm not asking this about the warranty purposes. I'm asking this because I've realized that after using Revolutionary I can't install any app from market via wireless no matter what I did. Strangely it is fine to surf and download via mobile.
I know this because this is the Second Sensation I've faced having this problem and I remember some user Leviathan(maybe wrong?) talking about wifi dieing after Revolutionary.
So what I need is to get rid of it and be able to install original bootloader(maybe bootloader is not the right term here I don't know).
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When I get my phone there wasn't such writing. It is the product of Revolutionary.
So it is still there. I want to be able to get rid of it.
I'm not asking this about the warranty purposes. I'm asking this because I've realized that after using Revolutionary I can't install any app from market via wireless no matter what I did. Strangely it is fine to surf and download via mobile.
I know this because this is the Second Sensation I've faced having this problem and I remember some user Leviathan(maybe wrong?) talking about wifi dieing after Revolutionary.
So what I need is to get rid of it and be able to install original bootloader(maybe bootloader is not the right term here I don't know).
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flash stock hboot, should come with a ruu file, but you can always check if you extract rom.zip from the ruu.exe.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire
I've tried installing stock roms over it no luck untill now.
webmanya said:
I've tried installing stock roms over it no luck untill now.
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i am saying that you probably have a modified hboot, because of the revolutionary sOFF, just like alpharev. you need to flash stock hboot to get everything back, hboot flashing is dangerous, if it goes wrong youll have a brick.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire
and stock hboots are found in ruus.
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and stock hboots are found in ruus.
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Thank you for your answer. I understand what do you mean. But I'm not sure if it will help because while flashing stock rom it also updates hboot.
I have to make a warranty return. Several pins in the mini-USB port are damaged. I can charge but have no data connectivity. Currently running Android Revolution HD Android 2.3.4. (1.73)
I was fully rooted with Super CID and ADB configured. I may not be Super CID now after re-flashing the backup stock ROM (which is intact).
I am able to run ADB commands via the wirelessABD app. The problem is that wirelessADB will not allow me to run Fastboot commands because the IP connection is lost when the phone is in Fastboot mode.
Since the S-ON command occurs via fastboot, I appear to be SOL. Can anyone think of a workaround? Am I missing something obvious here? Thanks.
If u send it back they are not going to call you and say "hey asshole, why is it s-off"? Ive sent a defective sensation back to them s-off supercid and running an old leedroid rom and they didnt say anything or try to bill me. U have the stick rom then im sure u will be alright.
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If u send it back they are not going to call you and say "hey asshole, why is it s-off"? Ive sent a defective sensation back to them s-off supercid and running an old leedroid rom and they didnt say anything or try to bill me. U have the stick rom then im sure u will be alright.
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I agree the message floating around is that warrenty is only void if failiure is a direct result of rooting - e.g you bricked it. This is a Hardware failiure so I think will be honoured by HTC.
I straight bricked a vibrant 4g on launch day. I flashed vibrant 3g pda by accident. Still they replaced it
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Thanks for the feedback. Good to know that Tmobile is probably not going to look at this too closely. I am actually returning on the basis of a dead pixel - which is true. Haven't mentioned the broken usb port.
That said, on the basis of curiosity and hours already spent trying to figure this out, I am interested if anyone has a suggestion for a work-around to the S-ON problem.
Is usb connectivity absolutely required to execute fastboot commands?
I had sudden unresponsive Sensation that apparently has been fixed / replaced by HTC. I still don't know if this is a hardware or software problem since there seem to be many incidents of these happening on the forum.
In any case, just want some advice...do we think these "unresponsive" issue is related to rooting/ROM...even though it seems to be happening with various ROM. I just wonder if I should try to reroot the repaired phone again.
Also, will the guide for rooting be still valid with maybe some newer firmware/Bootloader that HTC might have reinstalled onto the phone now? I am picking it up today...but I need to unlock the phone to use in Canada..which I did with the guide here before....but I am a little weary about doing it again after what happened!
newr said:
I had sudden unresponsive Sensation that apparently has been fixed / replaced by HTC. I still don't know if this is a hardware or software problem since there seem to be many incidents of these happening on the forum.
In any case, just want some advice...do we think these "unresponsive" issue is related to rooting/ROM...even though it seems to be happening with various ROM. I just wonder if I should try to reroot the repaired phone again.
Also, will the guide for rooting be still valid with maybe some newer firmware/Bootloader that HTC might have reinstalled onto the phone now? I am picking it up today...but I need to unlock the phone to use in Canada..which I did with the guide here before....but I am a little weary about doing it again after what happened!
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Maybe it was the rom or some certain thing that you did causing the slow response. Rooting will never ever ever ever lag a phone, custom rims on the other hand usually don't but there's the new ones which still have work to be done. When you get your phone back, boot into bootloader and tell me the hboot version. If its ics I don't think that you can as I think juopuntbear only works on pre rooted phones.
It does seem like the phone itself had some problems.
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sensation lover said:
Maybe it was the rom or some certain thing that you did causing the slow response. Rooting will never ever ever ever lag a phone, custom rims on the other hand usually don't but there's the new ones which still have work to be done. When you get your phone back, boot into bootloader and tell me the hboot version. If its ics I don't think that you can as I think juopuntbear only works on pre rooted phones.
It does seem like the phone itself had some problems.
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Well.. the phone came back as HBOOT 1.18...I had to go through the rooting process as I needed to unlock the SIM. So my phone is S-off, rooted, clockwork 5.0.2.0, and super CID.
I am scared to try to install an ICS custom ROM on it now as I am not sure if that process caused the phone to die and there are many phones dying on here running that.
I am thinking maybe I should just update to the official update when it comes out. Hope it's possible with the phone being rooted and S-off etc..
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Well.. the phone came back as HBOOT 1.18...I had to go through the rooting process as I needed to unlock the SIM. So my phone is S-off, rooted, clockwork 5.0.2.0, and super CID.
I am scared to try to install an ICS custom ROM on it now as I am not sure if that process caused the phone to die and there are many phones dying on here running that.
I am thinking maybe I should just update to the official update when it comes out. Hope it's possible with the phone being rooted and S-off etc..
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Ok, just tell what happened, what rom you flashed and how, I'll be able to tell you how to do it properly
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i had plenty of battery life and was on 2.20 4.0.4 update prior to installing this OTA. now my phone wont even turn on after i did the update nor will it charge and have the light come on.. any ideas?
Let me guess. You had supercid??
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if supercid gives problems on the at&t ota, then you should of been s-off cause i did ota fine with s-off and supercid.
idk i havent really heard of it but maybe. anyway to fix this now or ?
no fix
ps3kev said:
idk i havent really heard of it but maybe. anyway to fix this now or ?
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SuperCID is when you changed the CID on your phone to 1111111 when/if you tried to root your phone. Here's a brief explanation by another XDA poster.
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Certain things, e.g. RUUs, need to have the correct Carrier ID on the phone in order to install via the bootloader or recovery using the PG58IMG.zip process. The Latest Firmware packs for example are grouped together into sets, this is to allow you to install them if you don't have SuperCID. If you have got SuperCID you can install any of them as all the CID checks pass.
Another reason to change the CID if to allow you to install a generic RUU instead of the one that came with the phone, this allows you to remove the bloatware. For example I'm on Vodafone and I installed the generic Euro RUU purely to get rig of the Vodafone crap that came pre-installed.
The process to change it back is identical to the way you write the SuperCID just using your original CID (mine for example is VODAP001). IIRC HTC__01 is the generic CID
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Unfortunately, I am on the same boat you are, I did not change my CID from 1's back to it's original and the update bricked my phone. It own't power on or boot into anything, I'm crossing my fingers that the AT&T store will believe me when I say "I don't know what happened, can you fix it?" and give me a new phone.
enduser76 said:
SuperCID is when you changed the CID on your phone to 1111111 when/if you tried to root your phone. Here's a brief explanation by another XDA poster.
Unfortunately, I am on the same boat you are, I did not change my CID from 1's back to it's original and the update bricked my phone. It own't power on or boot into anything, I'm crossing my fingers that the AT&T store will believe me when I say "I don't know what happened, can you fix it?" and give me a new phone.
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It is not known if super-cid causes issues with doing an OTA! I have super-cid and s-off, and I applied the AT&T OTA without any problems after using the 2.20 RUU to go back to stock. It may be that super-cid causes issues if you are not s-off, but I don't think anyone really knows if it is definitely the presence of the super-cid that is causing the problems. It could be, but given that some people don't have any problems, it could be anything.
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It is not known if super-cid causes issues with doing an OTA! I have super-cid and s-off, and I applied the AT&T OTA without any problems after using the 2.20 RUU to go back to stock. It may be that super-cid causes issues if you are not s-off, but I don't think anyone really knows if it is definitely the presence of the super-cid that is causing the problems.
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S-off is precisely the reason you didn't brick. S-off by definition means that all security checks are bypassed, including CID check.
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S-off is precisely the reason you didn't brick. S-off by definition means that all security checks are bypassed, including CID check.
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Hmm so if I had S-Off and Supercid and update via OTA sent directly from att not flashed any other way I will be ok?
romy134 said:
Hmm so if I had S-Off and Supercid and update via OTA sent directly from att not flashed any other way I will be ok?
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If you were S-Off and SuperCID then the OTA should not affect you.
But. WHY are people wanting the stock OTA? It's causing issues because some people don't know if it's going to brick their phones. Please just wait until custom ROMs come based on the OTA. It's much much much easier
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S-off is precisely the reason you didn't brick. S-off by definition means that all security checks are bypassed, including CID check.
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Yup, now I (and hopefully people who read this thread) know better for next time.
I'm happy to report that AT&T swapped out my HTC One X for a new one and 4.1.1 is pretty sweet! I'm going to wait a while before unlocking and next time I'll make sure to have S-off
I found this thread useful, in that it gave me "closure" after trying desperately to revive my bricked phone for an hour. Got some Z's and woke up to a new phone - they couldn't turn it on at the AT&T service center and gave me a few examples of what could've happen. One of them was "using third party rom's" but they didn't accuse me of anything, they replaced my phone and I was on my way.
I seriously don't get why anyone updates ota. We have a flashable rom typically with a day
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The_Zodiac said:
I seriously don't get why anyone updates ota. We have a flashable rom typically with a day
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for the other images other then system that get updated, and with s-off now we don't really get screwed by anything so you might as well see if latest gives any improvements.
enduser76 said:
Yup, now I (and hopefully people who read this thread) know better for next time.
I'm happy to report that AT&T swapped out my HTC One X for a new one and 4.1.1 is pretty sweet! I'm going to wait a while before unlocking and next time I'll make sure to have S-off
I found this thread useful, in that it gave me "closure" after trying desperately to revive my bricked phone for an hour. Got some Z's and woke up to a new phone - they couldn't turn it on at the AT&T service center and gave me a few examples of what could've happen. One of them was "using third party rom's" but they didn't accuse me of anything, they replaced my phone and I was on my way.
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People never listen or read up till its to late
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enduser76 said:
Yup, now I (and hopefully people who read this thread) know better for next time.
I'm happy to report that AT&T swapped out my HTC One X for a new one and 4.1.1 is pretty sweet! I'm going to wait a while before unlocking and next time I'll make sure to have S-off
I found this thread useful, in that it gave me "closure" after trying desperately to revive my bricked phone for an hour. Got some Z's and woke up to a new phone - they couldn't turn it on at the AT&T service center and gave me a few examples of what could've happen. One of them was "using third party rom's" but they didn't accuse me of anything, they replaced my phone and I was on my way.
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were you honest or did you scam at&t cause that just makes at&t want to make security tougher and hurts other more preve people.
DvineLord said:
were you honest or did you scam at&t cause that just makes at&t want to make security tougher and hurts other more preve people.
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The guy at the service station didn't really ask me anything other than "what's wrong with your phone?" and I replied "it's not turning on." he said ok and plugged it into his machines and said he was going to run some tests and to take a seat. Five minutes later he said it's not turning on and he's going to replace it, I asked him what could've happen and he gave a few examples (including third party roms, etc) but that it could have been anything from a corrupt file to dropping it on the floor.
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I seriously don't get why anyone updates ota. We have a flashable rom typically with a day
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For me personally, I couldn't get most of the ROM's to work properly, if at all. I kept getting errors like " com.google.process.gapps has stopped working" or something similar and I'd have no phone service (for example) which is why I went back to stock.
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were you honest or did you scam at&t cause that just makes at&t want to make security tougher and hurts other more preve people.
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Not true and they are the scammers btw.
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Not true and they are the scammers btw.
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at&t customer service and even technical support have been badass for me last few years only issue is 110 bucks for my phone bill which imo should ive me the right to do whatever i want with my service and my phone without having to pay for tethering or getting throttled ever imo and cheaper early upgrades.