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Hi everyone
I am a noob so be nice to me. I accidently cracked the screen on my Samsung Vibrant and so have a few questions about how to return the phone back to Stock/unrooted (just like befor i flashed). I am fine if i have to lose my contacts, apps. ect...
Background:
I rooted my phone with One-Click-Root/Unroot from XDA (loved it). I then flashed the latest Nero 5.0 ROM from Team Wiskey (Love it). As part of either the root or flashing the ROM(i can't remember which one), I downloaded "ROM Manager" with CWR.
Q #1: Is it as easy returning to stock ROM as just using "Flashing ClockworkMod Recovery" or should I have used "nandroid" (don't know what it does, but I see it talked about) also?
Q #2: I hear people say that you need Odin to return back to stock ROM, but then I hear that is ONLY if you don't have ROM Manager w/CWR. Do I need Odin or do I only need ROM Manager w/CWR?
Q #3: If all I need is ROM Manager w/CWR and it returnes back to what it was before i flashed, can i just us the "Unroot" button on the One-Click-Root/Unroot"?
Q #4(Last Question): Will I recieve OTA's if I have to us Odin and flash a stock ROM, how do I get back to stock and recieveing OTA's?
I understand that there are alot of posts asking how to return to stock but that is from people where something in the programs went wrong when trying to return to stock. I am just wondering what programs (other than ROM Manager and CWR) are need for me to return to stock? Please help, I don't want my phone to be rejected because my warranty is void. Thanks
Noob123
All thats needed to return to stock is a Nandroid backup of your original ROM.
Oh wait.....
Why do people totally fail at this?
What you need now is an original ROM for your device and then flash it from recovery.
So in other words, I need to download a 2.1 Rom (last version i had) from somewhere back on to my computer and then do the same things that i did to flash Nero 5? Is that where Odin comes in? OR, would CWR already have that ROM and everything all in one package?
Like I said, I am a nook. I am suprised that i didnt brick my phone rooting and flashing a ROM the first time. I may be pushing my luck going back to stock. But, it needs to be done if i want my phone fixed.
I would have a look HERE, in the Samsung Vibrant forum. I'm sure you'll find an Official ROM to Flash somewhere in there.
You would just put the .zip on your SD card, restart to Recovery and select the option to Flash from SD
Okay, i am getting it now. However, wont the "Update.zip" (Nero 5.0) be there on my SD memory already? Will i damage my phone if i delete the "Update.zip" and put in the Stock.zip (then do the recovery thing)? So once i get the Stock ROM uploaded on my phone, can i just use the one-click-unroot (from XDA) to have my phone be unrooted and new just like it was when i bought the phone? Will i get OTA's?
Thank you for your help, i am sorry for bugging you but i feel like i am starting to understand it more. These are probably the last questions that i have....probably
I've had my Charge for a few weeks now. I've been silently reading the forum this whole time. I've downloaded the tools and I'm ready to kernel/root/rom it... But I like to be cautious. Everyone always says "HAVE A BACKUP YOU TARD!" but I can't seem to find any information on the topic pre-root.
So... Is there some way to backup everything on the phone prior to tinkering with it so I can put it back if something goes bad?
I did search.. Couldn't find anything for the droid. Lots of mentions of titanium. I downloaded it but it's for rooted phones as well.
No. Clockwork doesn't do a proper backup now. (And it doesn't back up the kernel anyway.)
Just changing the kernel and rooting won't alter anything that flashing the original kernel can't undo. So do that, get Titanium (I suggest the pro version, since it's the flasher's best friend), and use that to back up your user apps before you take the step of flashing a full ROM.
I'm a total newbie to this stuff, so this is something I've been wondering about as well.
s44- So changing the kernel and rooting you would say is a pretty safe venture to start with? I'm a fairly technical guy in general, but haven't ventured into the realm of phone rooting before, so I'm a little anxious about possibly bricking my phone right after I got it.
Is there something I would need to do beforehand to enable me to flash the original kernel, or is that just something you can always do after rooting? Thanks for any info.
We have odin. Thanks to odin we can always flash back to stock rom. If you look at the development forum you will find the stock package that no matter what you do you can always go back. Just dont mess with the radio or the pit file. Always us pda in odin unless you are flashing a new radio and you are instricted todo so. For user apps and data you can use titanium backup
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Excellent, thanks. I assume you're referring to the stock ROM at this link? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1085190
What exactly does flashing a new radio do? I'm not really familiar with the terminology
ColonelSeitan said:
Excellent, thanks. I assume you're referring to the stock ROM at this link? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1085190
What exactly does flashing a new radio do? I'm not really familiar with the terminology
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Flashing a new radio means replacing the current modem/voice radio's software with a new/different one. There's currently no flashable radio softwares that I know of for the Charge. There are two radio softwares for the phone, though: the original version shipped with the phone, and the new one that started rolling out last week with the EE4 OTA update. That update is a patch to the old radio software (a patch is a method that changes only portion of the current software rather than overwriting the whole thing).
Hope that helps you understand a bit better.
Can't back up my phone.
I'm sorry if someone already posted this. I've been hours at it re installing ROMs. I have GummyCharged 2.0. I've tried doing a nandroid back up for the past couple of days. I've tried Rom Manager to back it up many different times and every time it shows that open box for a few seconds then it's just the android with a triangle /!\. I've tried backing up while on Recovery but at the end it can't find my SD-ext and doesnt back up. I can't find anything online relating to it. I'm gonna reinstall the stock and root it. I'll back up every time I change my phone and see when exactly it starts to fail. I'm still a noob at this.
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I'm sorry if someone already posted this. I've been hours at it re installing ROMs. I have GummyCharged 2.0. I've tried doing a nandroid back up for the past couple of days. I've tried Rom Manager to back it up many different times and every time it shows that open box for a few seconds then it's just the android with a triangle /!\. I've tried backing up while on Recovery but at the end it can't find my SD-ext and doesnt back up. I can't find anything online relating to it. I'm gonna reinstall the stock and root it. I'll back up every time I change my phone and see when exactly it starts to fail. I'm still a noob at this.
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first of all don't use Rom Manager for anything on the Charge as it doesn't work right... second of all nandroid backups can be made on Gummy 2.0, you would need the most up to date CWM from Imnuts thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1112804, it should be orange and version 4.0.1.4
BlackMagicNights said:
I'm sorry if someone already posted this. I've been hours at it re installing ROMs. I have GummyCharged 2.0. I've tried doing a nandroid back up for the past couple of days. I've tried Rom Manager to back it up many different times and every time it shows that open box for a few seconds then it's just the android with a triangle /!\. I've tried backing up while on Recovery but at the end it can't find my SD-ext and doesnt back up. I can't find anything online relating to it. I'm gonna reinstall the stock and root it. I'll back up every time I change my phone and see when exactly it starts to fail. I'm still a noob at this.
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Rom Manager and the Charge do NOT work.
Make sure you're using the latest Recovery as that's the only one that's able to backup/restore and even then there's known to be issues.
Just gonna latch on here since this is a pretty recent last post...
I have recovery 4.0.0.8 and am trying to go to gummycharge GBE 2.0RC1.5, do I need to update my recovery first? I'm assuming I do to backup, but just wanted to confirm. And on the subject of updating recovery, I use ODIN just like I did for Gummy (except following what it says on that link, no auto reboot)?
Thanks, I've done enough rooting in the past, but not too familiar with CWM updating and ODIN.
JLCollier2005 said:
Just gonna latch on here since this is a pretty recent last post...
I have recovery 4.0.0.8 and am trying to go to gummycharge GBE 2.0RC1.5, do I need to update my recovery first? I'm assuming I do to backup, but just wanted to confirm. And on the subject of updating recovery, I use ODIN just like I did for Gummy (except following what it says on that link, no auto reboot)?
Thanks, I've done enough rooting in the past, but not too familiar with CWM updating and ODIN.
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if you're trying to do a CWM backup first then yes you would need to update CWM to the latest 8/17 build which you can odin separately... odining or flashing the new Gummy rom should update your kernel and thus update CWM
What is the latest cwm for droid charge. I had 5.0 on tunderbolt now only have 3.0 on Charge.
mickrg123 said:
What is the latest cwm for droid charge. I had 5.0 on tunderbolt now only have 3.0 on Charge.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1112804
v4.0.1.4...backup no workee...MD5 mismatch!
When attempting to run a backup via CWM v4.0.1.4 I get MD5 mismatch! Yes...Im on the ROM that I'm attempting to backup. Any help would be kick [email protected]#...
Here's my 5 cents for what it's worth.
I only backup what I really need, rather than a full backup - that way I know I keep the DATA, not the old apps, outdated cache and setting etc.
To do this I use:
SMS Backup+ : Backs up SMS, Call Log
Evernote : I keep notes, screenshots, voice memos etc in sync using evernote. This of course only works if you like evernote
Eye-Fi : I move all my pictures of the phone using Eye-Fi. This cost of course, sorry, but it works (Plus you get a cool SD card for your digital camera). Other options exists, I hear a lot of good stuff about SugarSync.
Market and Amazon : All you apps are already backed up on Google Android Market or Amazon (dep. on where you bought/downloaded them from). Some people wants everything re-installed from the get go. I prefer re-install when I need it, I'm always near 4G so it literally takes seconds.
This has been working so well that I now don't think twice before factory resetting or upgrading firmware. I just do it.
Hope that helped...
I am poking around the latest official OTA update (get it here).
I am trying to see if there is anything useful for aftermarket roms. I will post
here my findings, if any, and all the questions that pop to my mind. Hopefully
someone in the community will have answers.
The updating script does the following:
1) several checks on bootloader/recovery/cid/device version
2) copy fotaBoot to /data/system/fotaBoot to trigger some changes at reboot
3) checks on files to be patched
4) delete several files from /data (notably adio_checksum, DxDr,
SuplRootCert_injected)
5) delete lots of files form /system
6) apply patches
7) copy files into /system
8) set permissions
9) flash firmware.zip via
Code:
write_firmware_image("PACKAGE:firmware.zip", "zip");
Among the files being modified there are a couple of firmwares (yamato_pfp.fw
yamato_pm4.fw). I do not have them on my system (I run CM7) and I have no idea
which piece of hardware they refer to. There is also an app whose purpose I
ignore (HTC-DPM-GB-2.3-48637-11.1.apk) and a mysterious recovery.img in /system
(more on this later).
Does anyone know the exact procedure by which firmware.zip is flashed? Will any
check be performed on it? Its content is the following:
* android-info.txt: ASCII file with some version numbers.
* boot.img: should be the new kernel+ramdisk; I tried booting it with few
expectations and indeed it wont boot with a non-sense /system
* hboot_8x60_DOT_1.45.0013_20111121_signedbyaa.nb0: the new bootloader; I see no
reason to flash this unless it provides some new features.
* radio.img: fat image with radio files (should be safe to flash)
* rcdata.img: ???
* recovery.img: this won't boot; may it require the above mentioned recovery.img?
Anyway this is completely useless
* rpm.img: ???
* sbl1.img: ???
* sbl2.img: ???
* sbl3.img: ???
* tz.img: ???
Anyone has ideas on what the other files are? I assume that if we avoid flashing
hboot we will always have fastboot available to us and S-OFF to flash anything
we would like to, correct? Revolutionary team can you please explain how you
make the phone S-OFF once your exploit gives you the right privileges? Will any
of those files affect it? Has anyone here any idea of which partitions should
they be flashed to?
As I said I tried to boot both recovery.img and boot.img to get a config.gz and
kernel version with scarce success. I'd like to see whether they made some modifications to the
kernel which improved battery life. I think I will repack the new kernel with
CWM recovery and get the info from there.
Ideas of things to poke at? Comments? Helpful insights?
Related info: here .
sbl*.img might be the boot loader. (secured/secondary boot loader???) but why in 3 separate chunks?
More info: here
rcdata.img is text; it should be the configuration of the radio but if I check the content of the corresponding partition (mmcblk0p18) on my phone there is a lot of binary junk together with the small amount of text. The options are the same except for one (AGPSNVSetting) that is missing in the updated rcdata.img
Code:
# cat /dev/block/mmcblk0p18 | strings | tail -n 9
QCT_UMTS_RADIO_VER=1
DisH=2
AGPSNVSetting=1
EnDTM=0
MSCMode=10
HSDPACat=10
HSUPACat=6
GEA3=0
QCT_UMTS_RADIO_END=1
I know probably the biggest request from the community is to figure out how to root the update; it seems that the Rev. team has been notified that the exploit they used before seems to have been patched in this update.
Also very profitable would probably be zips for the new kernel and radio, if possible. Early reports have indeed been of better battery life, and also higher quadrant scores.
Anyway, many thanks for this thread, and for looking at the update
Etn40ff said:
Among the files being modified there are a couple of firmwares (yamato_pfp.fw
yamato_pm4.fw).
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Just a shot in the dark, but Yamato is refered to here:
http://code.google.com/p/synergy-ki.../system/etc/adreno_config.txt?spec=svn41&r=41
It seems to have something to do with the adreno chipset...
There's a Pre Rooted Version of the OTA Update on Rootzwiki. I would imagine those on XDA would be rooted all ready. I understand trying to find a way to Root the OTA Update for those who had it before they could root. But wouldn't a simple Temp Root, then Downgrade work? That's what I had to do with my G2 and G1.
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Litesorrows said:
There's a Pre Rooted Version of the OTA Update on Rootzwiki. I would imagine those on XDA would be rooted all ready. I understand trying to find a way to Root the OTA Update for those who had it before they could root. But wouldn't a simple Temp Root, then Downgrade work? That's what I had to do with my G2 and G1.
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the version on Rootzwiki isn't the newest update, the one that just came out 3 days ago. and the newest update has proven impervious even to temp-root so far. the only way to downgrade is if you were S-OFF before updating. there is a thread on this in the general section.....
If you updated, please view this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1405859
I had pulled the new google talk app and made it flashable on request, here's the link:
Gtalk update
There are a couple others if anyone wants them - deskclock, wifi calling, t-mo mall and carbon backup, netflix, and two logging utilities.
The rest is all small updates to a lot - what I wanted to look into first were the GPS updates to make sure my patch stays as current as possible.
You can either pull apart the package directly, or flash the update and do an adb pull to grab new stuff - backup guide in my sig tells you all about using the adb pull command.
Now that we know you can rewind the changes and get root back after the update, either should be fine. I've been going through the download zip, but haven't had much time at my workstation.
I have a couple emergency shifts to work, kept me offline yesterday & today, I'll check back on a break later and see if I have anything else to add.
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Blue6IX said:
I had pulled the new google talk app and made it flashable on request, here's the link:
Gtalk update
There are a couple others if anyone wants them - deskclock, wifi calling, t-mo mall and carbon backup, netflix, and two logging utilities.
The rest is all small updates to a lot - what I wanted to look into first were the GPS updates to make sure my patch stays as current as possible.
You can either pull apart the package directly, or flash the update and do an adb pull to grab new stuff - backup guide in my sig tells you all about using the adb pull command.
Now that we know you can rewind the changes and get root back after the update, either should be fine. I've been going through the download zip, but haven't had much time at my workstation.
I have a couple emergency shifts to work, kept me offline yesterday & today, I'll check back on a break later and see if I have anything else to add.
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could i get deskclock, wifi calling, and netflix
Yamato is gpu proprietary files. U would use them in a compile against source code for the improvements. I would say kernel fixes would be the main thing if reports are better quadrant and battery life
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I flashed the t-mobile signed stock rom PP59IMG.zip through the bootloader then proceeded to download the OTA's. After that I placed the new recovery image in the appropriate place and rebooted bootloader to prepare pushing the recovery through fastboot. What I noticed is that even after installing the OTA in a unrooted totally stock rom, S-off remains, however where "revolutionary" once was written now displays "**Locked**" , so apparently HTC has managed to relock the bootloader even though it shows S-off. It's not totally locked, as I had to reflash the PP59IMG.zip to downgrade hboot again so that I could reuse the revolutionary tool to flash the 4.0.0.8 recovery, then install CWM to update the recovery. As long as "Locked" was sitting where "revolutionary" normally is, I found it impossible to use fastboot, so my guess is security remains off but fastboot is locked. Just my guess anyway.
Where did you get the stock/signed T-Mo PP59IMG.zip? Can't find it anywhere here. Thanks.
monakh said:
Where did you get the stock/signed T-Mo PP59IMG.zip? Can't find it anywhere here. Thanks.
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yogi2010 said:
sure Blue, it is pretty much the usual...
To undo the update/restore the stock firmware that came with the phone:
(Note: this will only work if you are still S-OFF even tho you have the new HBOOT version. If you are S-ON with the new HBOOT, then at this time there is no known way to revert... hopefully we can get the devs. of Revolutionary, etc, to update the root methods. Also, if you want to update just to check it out, make sure to turn S-OFF first if you'd like to give yourself the option to revert later.)
1. Download the stock firmware package from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178082
2. Rename it PG59IMG.zip and put it on the root of your sdcard.
3. Boot into the bootloader('adb reboot bootloader' or power down the phone then hold volume down + power), let it read the update package, and press 'volume up' to update when prompted.
4. At the end it will prompt you to press Power to reboot. It scared me because when i pressed Power, the screen went off and seemed to not come back on, so i pressed power once again, and it booted into the system.
That's it! Just remember that if you do this, it will of course erase all your data... your phone will be like it was out of the box.
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I'm not sure if this helps anyone, but here is the boot.img taken from my nandroid of the newest OTA ROM:
http://db.tt/GHfzWNIj
come to think of it, looks like you might already have this in the OTA zip... although this one is a bigger file...
Two questions:
1. How do you flash this update? When I click the HTC Update, it gave me the ~5MB update, however not the ~40MB one. So is there a way to manually flash it?
2. Is there a way to doing so without loosing the recovery and root?
Sinfamy said:
Two questions:
1. How do you flash this update? When I click the HTC Update, it gave me the ~5MB update, however not the ~40MB one. So is there a way to manually flash it?
2. Is there a way to doing so without loosing the recovery and root?
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You can download the update and run it manually. I can't remember if I renamed it update.zip and flashed it through stock recovery or used the bootloader.
If it was the bootloader, rename the downloaded zip to PG59IMG.zip, put it on the root of your sdcard and boot into the bootloader. The device's screen should prompt you with install instructions.
As for keeping root and recovery, no. As long as you are S-OFF *before* doing this, however, you can re-flash a custom recovery and re-root using these instructions: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1433805
Yeah, the update flashed nicely thru the stock recovery. I learned once you get to the recovery screen, you press volume up + power to get the options to show up.
On July 20th 2013, I bought a new Verizon Galaxy S3 i535 (no contract due to I need unlimited data). As a 50 year old guy, I admit that I never rooted before. I decided to do some research on the web which also included this XDA site. By the way, this is the best site!!
As someone who never rooted, I found multiple different ways of rooting which caused great confusion. Some told me to download Odin, while some did not. Some told me to download a superSU or something like that, while other directions did not, and so on and on......
But what really concerns me is that most of the directions were written back in 2012. Should this be a concern?
I don't want to seem like a retard or impose, but would someone do a video skype with me and walk me thru rooting my phone for the very first time? Perhaps during that skype session I could ask a few questions? I would pre download all files so that the session would not take too long.
Any volunteers?
Respectfully,
Bryan
All you need to Do is visit this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=42791826
Those are the most straight forward directions you can find. And it will Root, unlock your bootloader, and install a custom recovery.
thank you for the reply. this is yet another way off rooting. why does this not use Odin? will this method allow me to undo or fix something if something goes bad?
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thank you for the reply. this is yet another way off rooting. why does this not use Odin? will this method allow me to undo or fix something if something goes bad?
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It doesn't use Odin because it doesn't need to. The one click solution includes all the tools needed to make the necessary changes to your phone.
If something goes wrong, then you would use Odin to go back to stock no matter what root /unlock method you used. This is because Odin has the lowest level access to your phone, and can rescue it as long as you can boot into download mode.
As long as you don't flash files intended for other phones (including s3s from other carriers) your phone should be safe.
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It doesn't use Odin because it doesn't need to. The one click solution includes all the tools needed to make the necessary changes to your phone.
If something goes wrong, then you would use Odin to go back to stock no matter what root /unlock method you used. This is because Odin has the lowest level access to your phone, and can rescue it as long as you can boot into download mode.
As long as you don't flash files intended for other phones (including s3s from other carriers) your phone should be safe.
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Ok... here is one of my last questions before I begin the root process....
Do I need to make a backup of my stock phone? There are no pictures or music, but do I need to make a backup in anyway first so if things go bad I can return to stock?
BKSinAZ said:
Ok... here is one of my last questions before I begin the root process....
Do I need to make a backup of my stock phone? There are no pictures or music, but do I need to make a backup in anyway first so if things go bad I can return to stock?
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I'm going to pop in here and help out. Once you do the casual root process, it will also install a recovery for you. You can make a nandroid backup with your recovery and just keep that somewhere safe. There are also directions on how to recover and return your phone to Verizon here. Hope that answers your question.
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Ok... here is one of my last questions before I begin the root process....
Do I need to make a backup of my stock phone? There are no pictures or music, but do I need to make a backup in anyway first so if things go bad I can return to stock?
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No, as I said above, as long as you can reach download mode on your phone you can always Odin back to stock. If you somehow break download mode, then your phone is pretty much bricked without sending it out to someone with a JTAG programmer. The risk of that happenning though is minimal unless you flash a ROM intended for a different device (such as the international i9300 S3).
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No, as I said above, as long as you can reach download mode on your phone you can always Odin back to stock. If you somehow break download mode, then your phone is pretty much bricked without sending it out to someone with a JTAG programmer. The risk of that happenning though is minimal unless you flash a ROM intended for a different device (such as the international i9300 S3).
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OK... did exactly what you and the directions stated. Upon the phone booting up, there is a 'padlock' and the option to swipe. When I swipe, I am not as the home screen that I am accustomed to. I am in the Team Win Recovery Project" with the only option to 'select zip to install" and 6 buttons to press (install, backup, mount, advanced, wipe, restore, settings, reboot)
This was an unexpected step and was wondering what to do next?.... or did I mess things up?
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OK... did exactly what you and the directions stated. Upon the phone booting up, there is a 'padlock' and the option to swipe. When I swipe, I am not as the home screen that I am accustomed to. I am in the Team Win Recovery Project" with the only option to 'select zip to install" and 6 buttons to press (install, backup, mount, advanced, wipe, restore, settings, reboot)
This was an unexpected step and was wondering what to do next?.... or did I mess things up?
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It sounds like you were successful in rooting and unlocking your phone's bootloader. The program you are seeing (TWRP recovery) allows you to flash roms/mods (install), backup your phone, wipe and restore your phone. However, this shouldn't be what you see on bootup unless you pressed volume up while booting. Your stock ROM may have been wiped during the root process.
I suggest you dive into the world of Custom ROMs with CleanROM which is basically a de-bloated and tweaked version of the stock ROM.
Download the file from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1832070
Use your PC to put it on a microSD card. In TWRP recovery, perform a Factory Reset (from the Wipe Menu), then navigate to the external_sdcard and install CleanROM (from install menu). Wipe caches and reboot once installation is finished. You should boot straight into CleanROM.
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It sounds like you were successful in rooting and unlocking your phone's bootloader. The program you are seeing (TWRP recovery) allows you to flash roms/mods (install), backup your phone, wipe and restore your phone. However, this shouldn't be what you see on bootup unless you pressed volume up while booting. Your stock ROM may have been wiped during the root process.
I suggest you dive into the world of Custom ROMs with CleanROM which is basically a de-bloated and tweaked version of the stock ROM.
Download the file from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1832070
Use your PC to put it on a microSD card. In TWRP recovery, perform a Factory Reset (from the Wipe Menu), then navigate to the external_sdcard and install CleanROM (from install menu). Wipe caches and reboot once installation is finished. You should boot straight into CleanROM.
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It seems that when I went into the backup area and made a backup (a backup of what, I do not know because I am totally new to this) and after the backup the phone rebooted to the normal home screen with all the normal icons. I even just received a phone call so I guess all is good.
I don't know what to do now that my phone is rooted. My goal was just to uninstall unwanted programs etc, So when I get the courage, I will use the CLEANROM.
Question.... do I now have to constantly update my existing root or Cleanrom once installed? Do I now avoid Verizon or Samsung updates?
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OK... did exactly what you and the directions stated. Upon the phone booting up, there is a 'padlock' and the option to swipe. When I swipe, I am not as the home screen that I am accustomed to. I am in the Team Win Recovery Project" with the only option to 'select zip to install" and 6 buttons to press (install, backup, mount, advanced, wipe, restore, settings, reboot)
This was an unexpected step and was wondering what to do next?.... or did I mess things up?
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If you're not ready to flash roms just touch reboot and you'll be back to your stock jellybean. In regards to the padlock, I also got that after using CASUAL and underneath the padlock it says custom. I haven't gotten a definitive answer about that but the general consensus is that it's nothing to worry about. I suppose it's just Verizon letting you know that they detected changes to your phone.
Do yourself a favor and read for days and days before you start flashing roms. You'll find the answers here and YouTube.
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It seems that when I went into the backup area and made a backup (a backup of what, I do not know because I am totally new to this) and after the backup the phone rebooted to the normal home screen with all the normal icons. I even just received a phone call so I guess all is good.
I don't know what to do now that my phone is rooted. My goal was just to uninstall unwanted programs etc, So when I get the courage, I will use the CLEANROM.
Question.... do I now have to constantly update my existing root or Cleanrom once installed? Do I now avoid Verizon or Samsung updates?
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Great. The backup you made is what is called a "nandroid" backup. By default it includes the Android System, your apps, and associated application data and settings. This is great because it basically includes everything you need to restore your phone to it's previous state. So if you were to flash a custom ROM and ended up not liking it you could always restore this backup and it would restore your phone to how it is now.
Being rooted allows you to install and use applications from the Play store that require root. There are tons of them. The one I use most often is called Titanium Backup. It's primary purpose it to backup and restore your data and applications on an individual basis. I use it mostly to save my text messages and game save data between ROM flashes. It also allows you to uninstall, wipe data, and freeze (disable) any application on your phone.
Right now since you are still running stock rooted, you want to avoid installing any official updates, otherwise you may have to re-root. Beanstown may have disabled system updates through the rooting method, but I am not sure. If a new update is released, keep your eyes on the forums here, someone will create a flashable zip of the new firmware that maintains root/unlocked bootloader, you can then flash that in TWRP. Also once you flash a custom ROM like CleanROM, they removed the Samsung Firmware updater most likely so you don't have to worry about it.
hello i am rooted with twrp recovery installed. I was able to unroot and download the latest 5.0.2-01001 ota but im not able to install the update it would just take me to twrp recovery and stop there.?? i found the update zip and tried to flash it in twrp but it says it cant mount and failed to flash any help would be appreciated.
OTA updates will require a stock recovery. I'm in the process of getting an Idol 3 but I used to have an Idol 2 and, to return to a completely stock ROM, I had to use the Alcatel Mobile upgrade too which identified my phone, downloaded the correct firmware, and restored the phone. Prior to restoring back to stock, I had cwm and root.
Thanks for the reply I tried the software update but its not working keep saying I have the latest even when I did a full wipe. Using the latest 4.9.2 version...is there a way to make a twrp flashable ota zip from the downloaded update file in the ota cache..
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hello i am rooted with twrp recovery installed. I was able to unroot and download the latest 5.0.2-01001 ota but im not able to install the update it would just take me to twrp recovery and stop there.?? i found the update zip and tried to flash it in twrp but it says it cant mount and failed to flash any help would be appreciated.
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You cannot be rooted and install a stock update...it's mentioned in several places throughout the forum. Quickest solution is to use the mobile q to restore the whole phone to factory (and in the process it will put the latest version on it). Otherwise you have to fully unroot AND if you have modified any files such as build.prop or other system files it still won't work. You CAN install with TWRP however in the process of the install it will overwrite it with stock recovery. If I had to guess I'd say you did not do the supersu FULL unroot.
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You cannot be rooted and install a stock update...it's mentioned in several places throughout the forum. Quickest solution is to use the mobile q to restore the whole phone to factory (and in the process it will put the latest version on it). Otherwise you have to fully unroot AND if you have modified any files such as build.prop or other system files it still won't work. You CAN install with TWRP however in the process of the install it will overwrite it with stock recovery. If I had to guess I'd say you did not do the supersu FULL unroot.
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mobile Q is horse manure now. I ran into the same problem, whereby it says you're up to date (which it's not), even if you're running 5.0.2.7SMA-UEA1 ! I only know that one because I inadvertently flashed 5.0.2.7SMA-UEA1 today when I meant to flash 5.0.2.7SRA-UEA2.
Speaking of 5.0.2-01001, 5.0.2.7SRA-UEA2 is on longer the latest yeah... anyway we can update the firmware page? http://forum.xda-developers.com/idol-3/general/want-to-able-to-install-ota-updates-t3163745
I just tried to OTA update to 5.0.2-01001, but OTA of course does not work if TWRP is acting recovery; it just reboots to TWRP and then if you reboot system, nothing happens. Although seemingly never mentioned, we must remove TWRP (even read only TWRP) before updating OTA?
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mobile Q is horse manure now. I ran into the same problem, whereby it says you're up to date (which it's not), even if you're running 5.0.2.7SMA-UEA1 ! I only know that one because I inadvertently flashed 5.0.2.7SMA-UEA1 today when I meant to flash 5.0.2.7SRA-UEA2.
Speaking of 5.0.2-01001, 5.0.2.7SRA-UEA2 is on longer the latest yeah... anyway we can update the firmware page? http://forum.xda-developers.com/idol-3/general/want-to-able-to-install-ota-updates-t3163745
I just tried to OTA update to 5.0.2-01001, but OTA of course does not work if TWRP is acting recovery; it just reboots to TWRP and then if you reboot system, nothing happens. Although seemingly never mentioned, we must remove TWRP (even read only TWRP) before updating OTA?
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The thread is closed. There is also no reason you NEED the most recent posted as you can flash any of them and then do an update. Mobile Q is the recommended method to re-do your phone if you can't manage to make a backup before messing with it. It has apparently worked just fine for people in this forum for every model type mentioned so the burden of proof is on your part if you can't get it to work.
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The thread is closed. There is also no reason you NEED the most recent posted as you can flash any of them and then do an update. Mobile Q is the recommended method to re-do your phone if you can't manage to make a backup before messing with it. It has apparently worked just fine for people in this forum for every model type mentioned so the burden of proof is on your part if you can't get it to work.
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Why would the thread be 'closed'. OP's problem is unresolved.
'Worked' is the operative term for. Perhaps you haven't used to Mobile Q tool lately? As OP (and I) said (today), running OTA from 6045 now just reboots to TWRP, no install. Alternately, when attempting to update 6045 from Mobile Q, it just throws a funny English 'update no needed' kinduva message (pic). Incidentally, have you been to their website to find an update to this tool? Holy crap, in that respect, Mobile Q must be a virtual breakthrough for these boys! :laugh:
You're so helpful here famewolf. I've both appreciated and have been comforted by seeing your knowledge all over this subforum, since day 1. Please provide help. You tell me where this 'people' person is, and I'll wank on his boner for you. Then we have a definition of 'working fine' in stead of 'worked fine'. ? :angel:
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Why would the thread be 'closed'. OP's problem is unresolved.
'Worked' is the operative term for. Perhaps you haven't used to Mobile Q tool lately? As OP (and I) said (today), running OTA from 6045 now just reboots to TWRP, no install. Alternately, when attempting to update 6045 from Mobile Q, it just throws a funny English 'update no needed' kinduva message (pic). Incidentally, have you been to their website to find an update to this tool? Holy crap, in that respect, Mobile Q must be a virtual breakthrough for these boys! :laugh:
You're so helpful here famewolf. I've both appreciated and have been comforted by seeing your knowledge all over this subforum, since day 1. Please provide help. You tell me where this 'people' person is, and I'll wank on his boner for you. Then we have a definition of 'working fine' in stead of 'worked fine'. ? :angel:
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The thread that is closed is the one YOU mentioned.... not the op. http://forum.xda-developers.com/idol-3/general/want-to-able-to-install-ota-updates-t3163745
I dont use mobile Q as I use Linux and they don't have a linux version. I use 3rd party roms such as AICP with the ARDE non OC rom. TWRP puts a log in /tmp...did you look at what the error message says? OTA updates will NOT apply if you have updated system files such as build.prop. Thats all I can tell you because I can't try what you are using.
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The thread that is closed is the one YOU mentioned.... not the op. http://forum.xda-developers.com/idol-3/general/want-to-able-to-install-ota-updates-t3163745
I dont use mobile Q as I use Linux and they don't have a linux version. I use 3rd party roms such as AICP with the ARDE non OC rom. TWRP puts a log in /tmp...did you look at what the error message says? OTA updates will NOT apply if you have updated system files such as build.prop. Thats all I can tell you because I can't try what you are using.
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I haven't updated the build.prop, I doubt the OP has either.
'There is no greater software version available to upgrade your phone,actual version of your phone is the latest'
Hehe! Only thing that would make this funnier is if they misspelled 'version'. At least I can derive some amusement from that message and their ****ty, convoluted website.
Shame you can't help on that front, but maybe you can at least guide me on what should be normal flow of this procedure.
When one does OTA update unrooted (but with custom recovery), at the point that the phone reboots, it should not (in theory) boot into TWRP right? I would think just continue with update, and maybe that's why I would need to remove TWRP in favor of stock recovery.
It would be easier to attack it from that angle as opposed to their crappy win32 program. which they probably didn't pay the GoDaddy bill on.:laugh:
I don't even know why I'm bothering as it's just a backup phone now. I just find it ridiculous that I can get their last measly update either from Q or from device (ostensibly so long as custom recovery remains). Holy bejebus, updating Shamu is so painless (6.0.1)
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likely they have not updated their server side to to UEN0 from UEA2 for their craptacular tool which would explain that problem.
Curious, did you lose Band 12 with UEN0. I haven't heard anything positive from this most recent update that is giving me a headache to get to. Perhaps it's for naught. They don't even have a changelog do they. Meh... I'm going to forget about it until something notable comes along or maybe even just sell this thing while I might still get over a hundred.
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I haven't updated the build.prop, I doubt the OP has either.
'There is no greater software version available to upgrade your phone,actual version of your phone is the latest'
Hehe! Only thing that would make this funnier is if they misspelled 'version'. At least I can derive some amusement from that message and their ****ty, convoluted website.
Shame you can't help on that front, but maybe you can at least guide me on what should be normal flow of this procedure.
When one does OTA update unrooted (but with custom recovery), at the point that the phone reboots, it should not (in theory) boot into TWRP right? I would think just continue with update, and maybe that's why I would need to remove TWRP in favor of stock recovery.
It would be easier to attack it from that angle as opposed to their crappy win32 program. which they probably didn't pay the GoDaddy bill on.:laugh:
I don't even know why I'm bothering as it's just a backup phone now. I just find it ridiculous that I can get their last measly update either from Q or from device (ostensibly so long as custom recovery remains). Holy bejebus, updating Shamu is so painless (6.0.1)
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likely they have not updated their server side to to UEN0 from UEA2 for their craptacular tool which would explain that problem.
Curious, did you lose Band 12 with UEN0. I haven't heard anything positive from this most recent update that is giving me a headache to get to. Perhaps it's for naught. They don't even have a changelog do they. Meh... I'm going to forget about it until something notable comes along or maybe even just sell this thing while I might still get over a hundred.
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As I mentioned here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64967202&postcount=4 you CAN install an OTA update with twrp...it will install it just fine however at the completion of the update you will no longer HAVE twrp installed because it will have been overwritten with stock recovery. (it does that at the END) This will be apparent the NEXT time you try to load recovery. Where do you imagine the update is processed? It's processed by the recovery app...it can't be done inside the rom because files would be in use. The last version I ever ran was UER0..was not even aware UEN0 was out. As I indicated, I switched to a rom based on cyanogenmod with some features I wanted...if I was going to switch NOW I'd choose blisspop and it's the one I intend to install the next time I have to do a reinstall. I don't see why you fight on 5.02 when 5.1.1 is available in various flavors and with the ARDE NON OC Kernel is rock steady. If you made full backups of your device (ie dd images of ALL partitions using the Backupall bat file or shell script running around the forum restoring to a previous radio is as simple as reflashing the partition using fastboot commands.
The radio is stored in the "modem" partition fyi.
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As I mentioned here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64967202&postcount=4 you CAN install an OTA update with twrp...it will install it just fine however at the completion of the update you will no longer HAVE twrp installed because it will have been overwritten with stock recovery. (it does that at the END) This will be apparent the NEXT time you try to load recovery. Where do you imagine the update is processed? It's processed by the recovery app...it can't be done inside the rom because files would be in use. The last version I ever ran was UER0..was not even aware UEN0 was out. As I indicated, I switched to a rom based on cyanogenmod with some features I wanted...if I was going to switch NOW I'd choose blisspop and it's the one I intend to install the next time I have to do a reinstall. I don't see why you fight on 5.02 when 5.1.1 is available in various flavors and with the ARDE NON OC Kernel is rock steady. If you made full backups of your device (ie dd images of ALL partitions using the Backupall bat file or shell script running around the forum restoring to a previous radio is as simple as reflashing the partition using fastboot commands.
The radio is stored in the "modem" partition fyi.
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So where is the latest update to flash with twrp (good dry run for me should a decent upgrade come out that isn't UEN0)? I just went with UER0 posted on yer thread thr with all the megaupload firmwares & flash restored system & boot (after full wipe); as an aside, it took, & I still have TWRP in tact. I'm well aware of your fastboot method & orig backup of ALL partitions. Seemed like a waste of space at the time, still kinda does.
Regarding your rhetorical question, I was referencing Alcatel's w32 Q tool. It seemingly wasn't updated to be keyed in on the latest update either. No wait, it said the same 'no greater version' crap even when I restored the original 6045i US system/boot fw from twrp, lmao
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So where is the latest update to flash with twrp (good dry run for me should a decent upgrade come out that isn't UEN0)? I just went with UER0 posted on yer thread thr with all the megaupload firmwares & flash restored system & boot (after full wipe); as an aside, it took, & I still have TWRP in tact. I'm well aware of your fastboot method & orig backup of ALL partitions. Seemed like a waste of space at the time, still kinda does.
Regarding your rhetorical question, I was referencing Alcatel's w32 Q tool. It seemingly wasn't updated to be keyed in on the latest update either. No wait, it said the same 'no greater version' crap even when I restored the original 6045i US system/boot fw from twrp, lmao
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Why are you assuming I should know where the latest and greatest update for stock should be? Updates are customized based on the rom version you are running at the time you submit a request. I've already stated I'm using a 3rd party rom and using an OS that doesn't allow me to run their software. You consider my recommendations a waste of time so I'll quit making them and continue using my perfectly working device on 5.1.1.
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Why are you assuming I should know where the latest and greatest update for stock should be? Updates are customized based on the rom version you are running at the time you submit a request. I've already stated I'm using a 3rd party rom and using an OS that doesn't allow me to run their software. You consider my recommendations a waste of time so I'll quit making them and continue using my perfectly working device on 5.1.1.
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Omfg buddy, you said, '... you CAN install an OTA update with twrp' ; all I did was point out that I flashed previous updates (presumably the same way you're talking about), TWRP remained in tact afterward, & asked you to follow through with that point with, you know, the actual update in question here that defies many of your assertions. One of your recommendations is broken (Q), the other is hindsight (full backup) & last (update via TWRP) seemingly not feasible (unless someone were to submit updated /system) . Anyway it's all a moot point now since we're just measuring our junk.
I'm tickled you're running 5.1.1, as you've said repeatedly... I tried it briefly on Shamu & was happy to leave the LP quagmire all together & get to 6.0.1. Sufficed to say, there isn't anything perfect about this device or 5.1.1, which is why I'll leave as is & sell it. :good:
Thanks anyway.