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so on my Inspire, I've finally rooted it, and I wanna kill me some bloatware and make this phone faster and leaner. What bloatware am I safe to delete? Also, are there any free apps to freeze things? Or because I'd have to flash back to stock ROM anyway to bring in for warantee, i might as well just delete bloatware? Also, how do I increase my battery life now that I'm rooted?

Man.....No one will hand this to you on a platter. Read. Read some more. All the answers you seek are here already. What is bloat to you may be a needed app to me.
Sense was bloat to me. ASOP.
Learn to search, then Get reading you have a a lot to figure out.

Lolz...its AOSP...and instead of deleting bloatware why not flash a ROM that is completely optimized for speed, such as Android revolution...
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Link to Android Revolution thread...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=964841
You can do this by using ROM MANAGER from the market. Once you download ROM manager you will want to flash Clockworkmod Recover which is at the top of the app, and after doing that you will be able to boot into recovery from Hboot or directly from an app on your device(You can get into hboot by checking fastboot is turned off and powering off your device, next hold the volume down key and power button for about 4 seconds...use volume rocker to scroll upsies and downsies and select recovery(you can also go into recovery by making sure fastboot is off and opening up ROM Manager and selecting it from there...)
Now that was just how to get into Recovery! We want to flash a ROM though! So we download the desired ROM of choice and in this case it is Android Revolution, put your phone into disk drive mode and place the rom on the root of your SD card...now boot into recovery(how to is above this paragraph), factory reset phone then got o advanced-wipe dalvik-cache and then go back to main recovery screen...choese intal from zip...find your ROM that you placed on the root and ta-da! Let it do its thing, once all done you will be promted to reboot and first boot can take about 5-10 minutes......its that simple!
Now this was a quick tut,nothing fancy or detailed,but when you are part of this forum you must read and read and read some more...and some more
For every ROM that is compatible with the inspire check out the development section, every ROM does its own thing, speed,looks,updates, you must pick one that you want...always try reading everything you see and no skimming! You will learn the basics after a week and after a month you will probably want to be developing your own ROMs and you will be helping others out with their problems
Sent from my Inspire 4G using XDA Premium App

ThEiiNoCeNT said:
Lolz...its AOSP...
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I think he knows that. Those acronyms just beg to be transposed.
UTMS or UMTS, WCDMA or WCMCA... You get the idea.

All Att apps

From what ive read it is better to just freeze them instead. I found a thread on the atrix part of the site showing the safe apps to freeze but haven't found one for the inspire...yet. I am still looking.
o btw....i am a new Inspire owner. I jumped ship from Blackberry a week ago and rooted my htc last night. This site is great!

You can use titanium backup to freeze the bloatware.

You can safely delete all of the AT&T B.S. I'm using the RCMix3D ROM, and it deleted it for me, but you can also use ROM Manager to delete it.

ClearDroid is stock minus bloat.
elijahpr said:
You can safely delete all of the AT&T B.S. I'm using the RCMix3D ROM, and it deleted it for me, but you can also use ROM Manager to delete it.
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I've used Coredroid and Leedroid, and both were cool in their own way, but since they aren't designed especially for the Inspire, they each had glitches. ClearDroid is as smooth as stock on my Inspire with no glitches, and it doesn't have the ATT bloat. Also, on Clear, every app I've tried to install has worked. That was not the case with Core or Lee. My bank's app was a no go until Clear. The only drawback I have found with Clear is GPS lock times, but installing Angel's North America fix seems to be working, and now the developer is including it with Angel's permission in the newest version of his rom. If you veer too far from stock, get ready to reflash every few days because the chefs are constantly tweaking their roms. This is a good thing though. I think we all think of our phones as our favorite toy. haha

Just got root, advise on a couple of things!

Rooted last night with Buddy's and so for everything seems to be working. I am assuming it was a success. I installed Titanium Backup and it allows me to remove the ATT bloatware etc...Is there anything I need to check to verify I am rooted and if so, correctly? I went through all my apps that I restored from ""MyBackup" app and everything is working.
I guess the next step is to learn how to use the installed ROM Manager and Superuser. Not sure what it is all involved but willing to learn. I am using Buddy's stock ROM that came with the program. Any negatives using this ROM? Before trying others, I have to figure out how to flash a ROM. I will be looking for a ROM without bloatware and sense. I use launcher pro and will stick with it. I prefer a smooth fast and solid performance.
I think my first mod would be to change my battery indicator in my notification bar and customize this area a bit. Any suggestions were to get started?
Thanks

If you want fast and stable w/ being senseless, di11i's Gingerbeast is as good as it gets. If you want fast, stable w/ a lil more tweaking capabilities, CM7 is for you.
I use both on a regular basis and each has their pros.
Tx

There are guides on every rom thread for flashing roms. If you don't do well with reading instructions and are more hands on I found this video and it helped me the first time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9yrg9W6X9U

Great guys thanks!

swatcop1 said:
Rooted last night with Buddy's and so for everything seems to be working. I am assuming it was a success. I installed Titanium Backup and it allows me to remove the ATT bloatware etc...Is there anything I need to check to verify I am rooted and if so, correctly? I went through all my apps that I restored from ""MyBackup" app and everything is working.
I guess the next step is to learn how to use the installed ROM Manager and Superuser. Not sure what it is all involved but willing to learn. I am using Buddy's stock ROM that came with the program. Any negatives using this ROM? Before trying others, I have to figure out how to flash a ROM. I will be looking for a ROM without bloatware and sense. I use launcher pro and will stick with it. I prefer a smooth fast and solid performance.
I think my first mod would be to change my battery indicator in my notification bar and customize this area a bit. Any suggestions were to get started?
Thanks
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Good job mayne. I used ATTN's method and the WiFi did not work with the ROM in that kit. I posted here asking about it right about the point where you are, waited 1/2 hour, said eff it, and flashed one of the custom roms from the Dev section, which fixed the issue.
I noticed my data speeds were not as good as stock, and I live in a backhauled area and was getting >7Mbps down stock. I noticed I didn't have the latest ATT OTA radio, so I read some more in the radio thread, and flashed the latest ATT radio and RIL's, and the data speeds I was accustomed to returned.
The ROM I flashed is really really nice. IT is Sense based, like the stock AT&T. Some of the ROM's people will suggest are basic Android UI, while others are Sense based. I don't mind the Sense. It is technically a memory hog, and I only use one of the Scenes provided, but I like it. There are many ROM's to chose from that are basically stable. I never got stock GPS to perform to my expectations. However, the first ROM I flashed combined with the latest OTA radio amazing fixed the effin GPS!! Wow it's really responsive now.
My first ROM had/has a couple bugs. One was taken care of with re-flashing the ROM I chose again. The ROM I have now has one really small minor bug. I am living with it, as stock also had more major issues (GPS). The bug is associated with the kernel. This is another thing one can flash and change. I tried another kernel out vs. the ROM, but decided t had other variables with the performance I was experiencing, while other posters here love the optional kernel. Choices choices...
Be careful with Titanium back up. In general, do NOT use it to back up system data as part of the ROM flashing process. Usually flashing different ROM's from different dev's require full system wipe, like you did with the rooting process. It looks tempting to use, but multiple issues are discerned by reading the thread if this selection is used in TB. I suggest just using it for App backup, and if a problem with the flashing, revert to your Nandroid backup of your last functional ROM. Learn about that too....
Anyway good luck. I doubt youare going to stay with whatever ROM is in Bubby's kit...so just trying to give you a few pointers...since you asked , and because I like this sentence in your OP", "Not sure what it is all involved but willing to learn." yes you will...the radio thread, the one stickied page of this forum, are invaluable places to start and bookmark...

swatcop1 said:
Rooted last night with Buddy's and so for everything seems to be working. I am assuming it was a success. I installed Titanium Backup and it allows me to remove the ATT bloatware etc...Is there anything I need to check to verify I am rooted and if so, correctly? I went through all my apps that I restored from ""MyBackup" app and everything is working.
I guess the next step is to learn how to use the installed ROM Manager and Superuser. Not sure what it is all involved but willing to learn. I am using Buddy's stock ROM that came with the program. Any negatives using this ROM? Before trying others, I have to figure out how to flash a ROM. I will be looking for a ROM without bloatware and sense. I use launcher pro and will stick with it. I prefer a smooth fast and solid performance.
I think my first mod would be to change my battery indicator in my notification bar and customize this area a bit. Any suggestions were to get started?
Thanks
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A few things that will make your flashing easier, because once you flash one custom ROM, you will end up flashing 10...
Create a Nandroid backup before flashing a new ROM. To create a Nandroid backup, follow these steps:
1. Get into Clockwork recovery. You can do this one of two ways: Go into ROM Manager and select boot into recovery. The other way is to boot the device while holding down the volume key. After the device boots, you'll see an option for Recovery. Select that. Also, some ROMs allow you to go into recovery by holding down the power button then selecting recovery.
2.Once in Clockwork recovery, select backup and restore, then backup.
The backup will be stored on your SD card in the \clockwork\backup directory.
This type of backup has EVERYTHING in it (except the radio). If you restore from this backup, and boot your device, it will be exactly as it was when you backed up--all apps, data, settings, etc.
I recommend backing up the backup directory to your PC. The backups are pretty big.
You'll end up with a whole collection of backups (I have about 10.), one for each ROM you've flashed. If you decide one day (or hour ) that you want to use a different ROM, all you have to do is copy the backup from your PC to your SD card and then restore from within recovery (wipe data/cache/dalvik first ).
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Do not restore data using Titanium Backup if the backup was performed on a different ROM. It can really screw things up.
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A lot of people ask about backing up and restoring SMS and MMS. The BEST way I have found is via Handcent sms. This is a great free replacement for the stock messaging app. It has an option to backup and restore both SMS and MMS messages. It work really, really well. The backup and restore does have a cost though. I think 3.99 a year.
To me, it's completely worth it. Using this with a Nandroid restore, and I can be up on a new ROM in 5 minutes, with all data up to date.

swatcop1 said:
Rooted last night with Buddy's and so for everything seems to be working. I am assuming it was a success. I installed Titanium Backup and it allows me to remove the ATT bloatware etc...Is there anything I need to check to verify I am rooted and if so, correctly? I went through all my apps that I restored from ""MyBackup" app and everything is working.
Thanks
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If titanium backup is working, then root is working. root either works or it doesnt
Four-Fifty-X said:
A lot of people ask about backing up and restoring SMS and MMS. The BEST way I have found is via Handcent sms. This is a great free replacement for the stock messaging app. It has an option to backup and restore both SMS and MMS messages. It work really, really well. The backup and restore does have a cost though. I think 3.99 a year.
To me, it's completely worth it. Using this with a Nandroid restore, and I can be up on a new ROM in 5 minutes, with all data up to date.
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or you could just use GO SMS Pro (its free) to do the sms/mms backup restore....or an app called SMS backup+ (free) and it sends a copy of everything to your gmail so you dont have to restore all that stuff, its all in your gmail, mms and all

GO SMS PRO also gives the ability to back up messages and restore all messages... it's free app.
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Nickovtyme said:
GO SMS PRO also gives the ability to back up messages and restore all messages... it's free app.
Sent from my Inspire 4G using XDA Premium App
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Trying it now... Thanks.

Pirateghost said:
If titanium backup is working, then root is working. root either works or it doesnt
or you could just use GO SMS Pro (its free) to do the sms/mms backup restore....or an app called SMS backup+ (free) and it sends a copy of everything to your gmail so you dont have to restore all that stuff, its all in your gmail, mms and all
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think SMS backup+ does SMS. I'll try and find out...

Four-Fifty-X said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think SMS backup+ does SMS. I'll try and find out...
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it sure does
early on in the apps development it did not, but it does just about everything now.

Thanks, I am glad yall said something about the TB not backing up data. I was getting ready to pull the trigger on flashing. Doing a Nandroid backup right now. So for I did a ROM backup using ROM manager, A apps backup using TB and now doing a Nandroid backup as described above. I should be cover and ready to go. Already have the zip file loaded in my phone.
PS; Been using GO SMS Pro, its the beast IMO

swatcop1 said:
Rooted last night with Buddy's and so for everything seems to be working. I am assuming it was a success. I installed Titanium Backup and it allows me to remove the ATT bloatware etc...Is there anything I need to check to verify I am rooted and if so, correctly? I went through all my apps that I restored from ""MyBackup" app and everything is working.
I guess the next step is to learn how to use the installed ROM Manager and Superuser. Not sure what it is all involved but willing to learn. I am using Buddy's stock ROM that came with the program. Any negatives using this ROM? Before trying others, I have to figure out how to flash a ROM. I will be looking for a ROM without bloatware and sense. I use launcher pro and will stick with it. I prefer a smooth fast and solid performance.
I think my first mod would be to change my battery indicator in my notification bar and customize this area a bit. Any suggestions were to get started?
Thanks
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Hey isn't the ROM in buddy's kit froyo? If you want gingerbread you're gonna have to flash a custom ROM...
I am sending this thread with the WiFi hotspot teathering to my PC, that I opted not to enable stock because I have an unlimited data plan and I think paying 20 or whatever they want is stupid. My home internet is dropping in and out this morning for some reason..wah lah! I got tethering to phone's network and internet access! Woo hoo! And jsut as fast as my home WiFi. This is exactly one of the things I had in mind when rooting this phone. This is awesome!!!! Oh but back to the OP...
Oh yeah!!!! If you flash a new ROM, or even notice with bubby's kit ROM now, that data speed is not what you expect, or doesn't work at all, check the APN settings under Settings>Wireless Networks>Mobile Networks>Access Point Names. The ROMs as flashed may not have all the settings correct. There are posts and threads about setting the proper APN's for proper AT&T network access and it's easy schmeezee. Just one little thing that took me a few minutes to figure out initially while I was getting data speed of 200kbps down vs. the 7Mbps I'm used to...
Hey regarding the mods you are considering, check out the status bar of the screenshot of my current set up by clicking the below thumbnail..is this something like you are talking about? Hee hee I am just getting into the theming thing after getting comfortable with all the other more technical stuff.

Pirateghost said:
it sure does
early on in the apps development it did not, but it does just about everything now.
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Has anyone tried to restore MMS? I'm asking because the market entry says it backs up MMS to gmail, but is says "MMS not supported yet" for restore.

swatcop1 said:
Thanks, I am glad yall said something about the TB not backing up data. I was getting ready to pull the trigger on flashing. Doing a Nandroid backup right now. So for I did a ROM backup using ROM manager, A apps backup using TB and now doing a Nandroid backup as described above. I should be cover and ready to go. Already have the zip file loaded in my phone.
PS; Been using GO SMS Pro, its the beast IMO
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hee hee you didn't have to learn the hard way. Cool!

Ok just flashed my first ROM (Ginerbeast). Now how do I reinstall the nandroid backup I did prior? I just went the market and loader rom manager and TB again. Not sure were to go from here???

swatcop1 said:
Ok just flashed my first ROM (Ginerbeast). Now how do I reinstall the nandroid backup I did prior? I just went the market and loader rom manager and TB again. Not sure were to go from here???
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No. Do not restore the Nandroid back up. That is for if you have problems with your new ROM, and need to get to a known good restore point. It is there if you need it....start checking out your new ROM .

ok think I might have it
Rom manger
reboot in recovery
backup and restore
advanced restore
pick my download
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Then it ask, resore boot or restore system or restore data or restore casche or restore sd-ext
I am thinking I need to pick "restore sd-ext" correct???????? to download my nabdriod backup???

Ok then backing up and re grouping
The new rom is installed, it looks nice. Now I want to reload my apps and system settings?

Using TB to restore my apps at this time. It loading.....

The Noobs Guide to Installing a Custom Rom

This Guide assumes that you have S-off and are rooted. It gives the most basic instructions for a first time flasher, it'll also take you through a Nandroid back up using ClockworkMod v4.0.0.4.
Select a rom.
Choose from here or, click the LBC link in my sigi and download the excellent rom and put it in the root of your SD card.
Turn your phone off and just this once pull and refit the battery, just to be sure your not going to run into any problems getting into Hboot from a power on state.
Press and hold the volume down button and press the power/on button. Your now turning your phone on and entering Hboot (bootloader). You'll soon get a white screen with skateboarding types at the bottom. (Oh dear! Notice the one on the far right looks as if he is about to fall off his skateboard! This isn't important).
Wait for the green writing to flash on the screen and go away, any errors that you notice are completely NORMAL!
Press the volume down button once more to highlight RECOVERY.
Press the power button to select.
Your phone will Vibrate (or at least mine does), and after loading you'll get a black screen with purple writing.
Congratulations are in order! You've reached RECOVERY. At this point it might be useful to go outside and bark at the moon if the excitement overcomes you. It did me.
Better? Right lets get to work. This is the business end of flashing and what can't be done here can't be done at all. Well, OK actually there is Android Flasher, Fastboot Commander and lets not forget your Command Line Editor but we'll gloss over those until you've earn't your stripes.
Using the Vol button navigate to BACK UP AND RESTORE and Select using the Power button.
Select BACK UP.
Your now backing up your existing rom and creating your first Nandroid back up. Your Nandroid back up lives on your SD card and can be moved to another file for safe keeping, renamed, corrupted or deleted. If you value your information, keep it safe.
Once finished, you'll get the message "Backup complete!" All we've done to this point is back up the rom that you've been using, at this point you could hit the power button and continue using your old rom, or wipe your phone and falsh a fresh one.
Its important to remember here that if you are going to wipe your phone, your actually deleting HTC's stock rom off the phone and a factory reset will not undo this. After you have wiped, the only way to get your phone back to a factory condition is to flash (load) a stock rom back on, (RUU). You MUST wipe your phone before installing a new rom, there is no way around this.
Wiping and flashing a fresh rom is far more exciting than HTC's offering and that's why you S-offed and rooted anyway isn't it?! Here's how we do that.
Using the Vol button, highlight WIPE DATA/FACTORY RESET.
Once done, highlight WIPE CACHE PARTITION.
Normally this is enough for a normal reflash but if your recovering from a problem or an issue and want a really really good clean up, perform these optional steps:
Select MOUNTS AND STORAGE
Using your vol and power button:
format /cache
format /data
format /system
Select +++++Go Back+++++
Select Advanced
Wipe Dalvik Cache
Reboot Recovery. This step is quite important and your phone will as it says reboot, so don't worry, just let it do its thing.
Wipe Data/Factory Reset once more.
There that's all the wiping done. It's worth noting now that at this stage your phone now has no operating software installed on it! A little scary isn't it? Apart from a bootloader and a radio there's very little else on your pride and joy right now!!! YOU WIPED IT! OK, enough, lets get your new rom installed.
Select install zip from SD card.
choose zip from SD card.
Select your rom
In about 4 to 5 minutes the phone will tell you its done. (DO NOT INTERUPT THIS PROCESS), make sure you have at least 75% battery before you begin!
Are we done?
Now is the time to flash any non optional extras that your rom may need. For instance CyanogenMOD does not come with the Market or Google Apps in Update so flash them now. Refer to your rom developers page for further information on this.
Any kernels, keyboards or mods from the kitchen also get flashed here. These are a little more advanced so lets not go there right now.
Reboot system.
This is your roms intital install and always takes a while to complete. However if your waiting mor than 10 minutes at this stage consult your specific rom developers page.
Press the thanks button.
Done.

this is a very very great guide for the newbies! Thanks man
I have a question for ya... what's nandroid backup? does it backup my stock ROM as well? so if I want back my old stock rom, I just flash back the backup? Need more understanding. Thanks.!

nodeffect said:
this is a very very great guide for the newbies! Thanks man
I have a question for ya... what's nandroid backup? does it backup my stock ROM as well? so if I want back my old stock rom, I just flash back the backup? Need more understanding. Thanks.!
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A Nandroid back up is the back up you make while in RECOVERY mode. It is an almost complete image of the phone, system, data, and caches are saved. It is important to note that when you wipe you are WIPING HTC's ROM FROM THE PHONE! After a wipe a factory reset will not take your phone back to the state where it left the shop. You'll need an RUU for that.
I appreciate the feed back.

Thanks for the step by step guide, I flashed the Virtuous Unity ROM and it is working perfectly.

Exactly what I've been looking for, thanks

Impressive guide
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make sure you have at least 30% battery before you begin!
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Good guide man. But you really, really want to have the phone plugged in and charged. Pref at least 75% battery if on battery power alone. Just for those unforseens ...
Peace

Great guide, thanks very much. I have a question about radios when installing a custom rom.
I see that some of the custom roms do not have a radio. How do I know which radio to use to go with that rom? Many rom threads don't seem to specify. Do I leave my stock one, or do I need a different one?
Also, if I do decide to install a custom kernal at a later time, does that mean re-installing the custom rom again first?
Thanks very much for any help for a noob to android!

ems328i said:
Great guide, thanks very much. I have a question about radios when installing a custom rom.
I see that some of the custom roms do not have a radio. How do I know which radio to use to go with that rom? Many rom threads don't seem to specify. Do I leave my stock one, or do I need a different one?
Also, if I do decide to install a custom kernal at a later time, does that mean re-installing the custom rom again first?
Thanks very much for any help for a noob to android!
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Don't flash a radio unless you really need to, its not necessary, if your phone works perfectly well with the radio you have my advice is; leave well alone and use the stock radio.
Any add ons such as kernels can be flashed any time after a rom flash and there is no no to reflash a rom just for a fresh kernel etc. Just go back into recovery and flash the exta's, don't wipe.
What I would advise though is when installing any new rom is not to flash any extras until the rom has been running as a stand alone for about 30 minutes. Any, shall we say "toys," Themes and a lot of Kitchen baked stuff should be flashed after the rom has run alone a while and settled, this makes it far easier to understand any issues your fresh rom may have as its easier to identify what's causing it.
This is a bit of a minefield though because some roms need add ons for the first flash, such as CyanogenMod needs the Market and Gmail. Stuff like A2SD scripts also need to be flashed prior to the first boot or they wont work. Your rom Developer should be specific about these.

InfernalByte said:
Don't flash a radio unless you really need to, its not necessary, if your phone works perfectly well with the radio you have my advice is; leave well alone and use the stock radio.
Any add ons such as kernels can be flashed any time after a rom flash and there is no no to reflash a rom just for a fresh kernel etc. Just go back into recovery and flash the exta's, don't wipe.
What I would advise though is when installing any new rom is not to flash any extras until the rom has been running as a stand alone for about 30 minutes. Any, shall we say "toys," Themes and a lot of Kitchen baked stuff should be flashed after the rom has run alone a while and settled, this makes it far easier to understand any issues your fresh rom may have as its easier to identify what's causing it.
This is a bit of a minefield though because some roms need add ons for the first flash, such as CyanogenMod needs the Market and Gmail. Stuff like A2SD scripts also need to be flashed prior to the first boot or they wont work. Your rom Developer should be specific about these.
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Superb, thanks very much that's good info! I've just now got S-off with AlphaRevX, and I'm now running the SAGA LBC Mod, just need to learn my way around the new features! Is it possible to now remove some apps like Facebook from this rom?

ems328i said:
Is it possible to now remove some apps like Facebook from this rom?
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I use Titanium Back Up to freeze the apps before deleting. That way if I get too naughty and freeze something that's needed it can be restored.

InfernalByte said:
I use Titanium Back Up to freeze the apps before deleting. That way if I get too naughty and freeze something that's needed it can be restored.
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Great tip, thanks again, much appreciated!

How to backup the personal data and apps at one ROM in order to restore them at new ROM? Thank you for the answer in advance.

Thanks for the guide.

Many thanks
Thank you for this great guide! I am a total noob and I flashed the LBC mod according to your guide. I already got root, as I had done this by other guide. I would like to add some advice for other noobs out there like me. The only setback I got, was that after installing new ROM, it froze, and the problem seems to be my Google account, which wants to sync all apps at once right after you have typed in your password and checked the "sync with my account" checkbox. the best would be to somehow uninstall all your apps from old rom after backing them up with Titanium. The problem was, that while trying to download all the apps again, it froze so hard, that it still showed me the charging LED, and the screen was unresponsive even after I had pulled the charger over 15mins ago. Even the power button did nothing. So I went back to recovery, trying to do the whole wiping/formatting drill with Dalvik Cache and i received errors in the recovery, even while navigating between menus that mounting recovery failed. I got very desperate and taught it would be best to just take a break. It was good idea. when I came back the phone had cooled down and I received no more errors while wiping/formatting/installing. I then just forbid the google account to back up my data online and that did the trick. No more freezes and LBC mod looks, feels and behaves just perfect. I got a whole new PDA now, with whole new capabilities. And also, many of the ROM-s does not include the Sim ToolKit, the STK. This is quite neccesary for people in Estonia and soon for most people in the world, as its neccesary for Mobile-ID. Most of us vote for president for instance by digitally signing our vote with mobile-ID which is an even greater extenson of ID-card. And as a businessman I need to give at least couple of signatures each day. I would be quite unhappy, when I would need to drive 200km to another city just to sign a document, or messing with my ID-card, card reader and stupid drivers, to sign something manually or even worse, use a pen to sign something haha So its a very vital component of all phones that use SIM-card and it soon going to be a must have in most countries in the world. So every Estonian here, if you are in need, get the neccesary STK (download the version for android 2.3.4, the 2.3.3 version won't work for LBC 0.5.3) from the Estonian Hinnavaatlus forum here: http://foorum.hinnavaatlus.ee/viewtopic.php?p=6564414#6564414
Again, thanks for the guide, its a dream come true.

Your Welcome.

ems328i said:
Superb, thanks very much that's good info! I've just now got S-off with AlphaRevX, and I'm now running the SAGA LBC Mod, just need to learn my way around the new features! Is it possible to now remove some apps like Facebook from this rom?
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Yup you can delete facebook etc, if you want to just clean it up, but your not going to make any extra room, unless you learn how to install apk apps into your system partition, rather than market apps into your data partition..

nodeffect said:
this is a very very great guide for the newbies! Thanks man
I have a question for ya... what's nandroid backup? does it backup my stock ROM as well? so if I want back my old stock rom, I just flash back the backup? Need more understanding. Thanks.!
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I dont think this question was answered clearly enough Can you restore your phone back exactly the way it was before with the nandroid back up you made? If not what is the point of the back up?
Also, it it best to do a nandroid back up the way you described or would it be just as good to let the ROM manager App do it for you?

pumpernickel77 said:
I dont think this question was answered clearly enough Can you restore your phone back exactly the way it was before with the nandroid back up you made? If not what is the point of the back up?
Also, it it best to do a nandroid back up the way you described or would it be just as good to let the ROM manager App do it for you?
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Nandroid Backup (to be honest - a tiny piece of Googling would give you the answer to this) but, in answer to your question, yes, a Nandroid backup takes the phone state back to effectively when the backup was was taken....I use it often when testing ROMS and then returning to my daily use ROM.
The only thing that isn't backed up by the backup and therefore isn't restored is your Radio so if you change version you need to flash the older version (which I'm sure that you'll be advised not to!) to return to the same state you were in.
ROM Manager nandroid and manual recovery nandroid are the same, it's just a matter of choice and personal preference. Some people like command line other like GUI. However, using recovery based backup it means that you'll hopefully have a slightly greater understaing of what is actually happening and the options that are avialiable to you, which means should there ever come a time when only recovery is accessible - you won't [email protected] your pants!

good
simple and easy thanks dude

[Q] Just wanna clear up a few things about upgrading ROMs.

Hey.
At the moment i'm running ARHD 6.6.3 on my Sensation. I'd love to upgrade to the new version of ARHD(6.6.5), but i am kinda scared about the whole backup/loosing all my apps/settings/contacts/texts and so on. Is there anyway i can backup EVERYTHING? Like All user inputted data? Like SMS, Contacts, Apps, Settings, Everything?
Thanks in advance!
- Joler

Titanium Backup for apps and application data. There are applications on the market for backing up SMS and I thought Sense 3.6 could back them up to the SD card (I know for a fact 4.0 can).
For settings, haven't seen any. However, you should be able to flash 6.6.5 or 6.6.7 on top of 6.6.3, because they're very minor changes.

I use 4 ext recovery for my back up, no it won't save my messages but it saves most else. I got into a pinch the other day and had to use my backup, it was wonderful! Everything was there, well most everything. I really like 4ext because its got a lot of features and its soo easy to use. Easy to back up, easy to access backup. Everything is labeled perfectly! I use 4 ext touch. You can take a look at it in the playstore. It's just another option I thought you might like.
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realsis said:
I use 4 ext recovery for my back up, no it won't save my messages but it saves most else. I got into a pinch the other day and had to use my backup, it was wonderful! Everything was there, well most everything. I really like 4ext because its got a lot of features and its soo easy to use. Easy to back up, easy to access backup. Everything is labeled perfectly! I use 4 ext touch. You can take a look at it in the playstore. It's just another option I thought you might like.
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Actually 4EXT's backup and restore options are a bit for bit backup of the rom, it should be bakcing up messages and everything else.

Anytime I'm flashing a different ROM I use a 4ext backup. It essentially restores your system as it was exactly at the moment of the backup. So if you have had newer messages since then it will not save those but anything that was on the phone when you backed it up should be there.
I am always a little nervous to flash a new ROM (especially when I have my phone running great) but a 4ext backup really makes it pretty risk free. If you don't like the new ROM just restore the old one and its back to normal.

nike1172 said:
Anytime I'm flashing a different ROM I use a 4ext backup. It essentially restores your system as it was exactly at the moment of the backup. So if you have had newer messages since then it will not save those but anything that was on the phone when you backed it up should be there.
I am always a little nervous to flash a new ROM (especially when I have my phone running great) but a 4ext backup really makes it pretty risk free. If you don't like the new ROM just restore the old one and its back to normal.
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I agree!
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joler said:
Hey.
At the moment i'm running ARHD 6.6.3 on my Sensation. I'd love to upgrade to the new version of ARHD(6.6.5), but i am kinda scared about the whole backup/loosing all my apps/settings/contacts/texts and so on. Is there anyway i can backup EVERYTHING? Like All user inputted data? Like SMS, Contacts, Apps, Settings, Everything?
Thanks in advance!
- Joler
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You are doing the upgrade of same rom... So you don't need to wipe at all.. Just flash the rom in recovery... You can won't lose a spec of data
Remember full wipe is required only when changing to different rom.
Not when upgrading the same rom (unless it's mentioned)
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sms back up

Hi
I recently installed a custom ROM (CM9) on my htc sensation and I backed up most things. Thing is when I backed up my SMS I did it through the stock HTC sms app and Im trying to restore it but no apps read the file
Any ideas on what to do?
would be greatly appreciated!

https://play.google.com/store/apps/...mNvbS5yaXRlc2hzYWh1LlNNU0JhY2t1cFJlc3RvcmUiXQ..
try this. if it doesnt work make a new backup, then reflash your old backup from your other rom. then use the app. then flash forward to your new one and then restore

this app only reads xml files. the one htc did was just a file without any extensions so it cant be read by this
but if this has something to do with flashing the old one could you please elaborate lol, im still new to this stuff

Assuming you still have a backup of your original ROM that your messages are stored in, give this a try.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.handyandy.appextractor&feature=nav_result#?t=W10.
It should let you extract the SMS files from your backupROM.zip file and let you restore them to your current app. If all else fails you can manually go into the backupROM.zip file and pull the SMS database file out yourself. You can copy the .zip to your computer and just root through the .zip and pull out the part you want, copy it to your phone and BOOYA!
Try the free app first though.

aliali99 said:
this app only reads xml files. the one htc did was just a file without any extensions so it cant be read by this
but if this has something to do with flashing the old one could you please elaborate lol, im still new to this stuff
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OK if you still have your rom that has the the sms then you can flash it back again. Using the correct firmware of course. Then back up the SMS with the app in my post above. Then reflash your current rom again (the one that needs the SMS) then run the app again and choose restore
or, use the method above
Both should work
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ok i think ive messed up. basically i tried flashing the stock kernel so i can go back to the original rom. but when i reboot it just sticks on the htc boot screen (not the one where it says quietly brilliant, just htc) i tried flashing the other kernel back but still nothing. im actually stressing out here cant believe ive messed this up.

ok ive managed to get it back to the old ROM and im backing up my sms right now. damn that scared the crap outta me. but this whole flashing roms and such has been fun and ive learnt a lot. thank you all of the help

aliali99 said:
ok i think ive messed up. basically i tried flashing the stock kernel so i can go back to the original rom. but when i reboot it just sticks on the htc boot screen (not the one where it says quietly brilliant, just htc) i tried flashing the other kernel back but still nothing. im actually stressing out here cant believe ive messed this up.
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I know you've got your old ROM running fine now, but for future reference don't bother flashing the kernel for a backup. When you make a nandoid backup the kernel is included with it, so when you restore it the kernel is restored automatically.
Now in case you meant that you flashed firmware so you could go back to your old rom, then yeah...you may have to do that if you're switching between Gingerbread and ICS roms. But if you're switching between two ICS roms then odds are that your firmware is already 3.32 or 3.33 for both and you don't have to switch it.