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My girl has a D2G and hates its sluggishness.
I have a G2 running Cyanogen 6.
I'm going to attempt to root her phone (with z4Root 1.3 I guess?) this week and then I want to flash a stable fast rom.
Any suggestions.
I hate motorola for insisting on crippling Android. I also hate Samsung for their slow updates. From here on out it's HTC or nothing.
The general consensus is that Liberty is the closest to stock Android. However I tend to lean towards Fission. It's not as close to stock as Liberty, however in my personal tests/usage it seems to preform better.
Currently the only custom Rom for the D2G is Fission from Team Defuse. You can get some D2 Roms (like liberty) to work if you use Team Get~R~Done's D2G_Romer.zip.
Is Fission faster than the d2g stock 2/Motoblur? My girls phone freezes and crashes too frequently.
I want something very stable.
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yes its MUCH faster, its "de-blurred" and blur slows the phone down a ****-ton so yes.
botnryan said:
yes its MUCH faster, its "de-blurred" and blur slows the phone down a ****-ton so yes.
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Thanks!
Ok I'm gonna do it tomorrow. Once I'm rooted (using z4) is it just a matter of putting flashing with clockwork like I do on my G2?
You can download it and flash through clockwork, or you can download the Fission Rom manager which will download the rom, and flash it for you.
With D2 and D2G best option in getting bootstrapper and bootstrapping recovery then flashing your goodies, seems to be the easiest for me, and once you have boot strapper the fission rom manager is pretty nifty as well
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With D2 and D2G best option in getting bootstrapper and bootstrapping recovery then flashing your goodies, seems to be the easiest for me, and once you have boot strapper the fission rom manager is pretty nifty as well
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\I don't know what any of this means, so I'm just gonna flash fission.
You're going to have to do the above to be able to flash Fission though. You need to download an app called Droid 2 Recovery Bootstraper. When you run the app, you'll have two options. "Bootstrap Recovery" and "Reboot Recovery". Option one has to be done to be able to book into the non-stock recovery, option two will then allow you to boot reboot directly into recovery. Unlike your G2, to be able to even be able to boot into clockwork, you have to first have to use option one as listed above.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.koushikdutta.droid2.bootstrap
YES LISTEN TO GILGAMESH!
otherwise your heading down the Moto Brick road!
Ok, flashed it and got Fission on there...
But here's a problem.. I flashed a theme on top of it and now the "Accounts and Sync" doesn't work and I can't sync my contacts from gmail.
Any ideas?
I made a backup with clockwork before I did anything... will that restore my contacts to gmail? (i stupidly didn't think to export my gmail contacts first to .xl)
Then I guess I could just start over... without the dumb theme (which was actually pretty awesome - Red for Fission)
Ok started over from scratch with nandroid backup. Got her contacts back. Flashed fresh Fission (DON'T USE THEMES THEY ARE ALL FLAWED! I TRIED 3 popular ones)
Anyway her phone runs Sooooo much smoother. MOtoBlur is a huge failure and resource hog. Google shouldn't let them all ruin their OS like that...
Anyway, Fission works great so far. Very stable and mostly painless install if you backup apps with Titanium and contacts too.
Thanks for the help!
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You're going to have to do the above to be able to flash Fission though. You need to download an app called Droid 2 Recovery Bootstraper. When you run the app, you'll have two options. "Bootstrap Recovery" and "Reboot Recovery". Option one has to be done to be able to book into the non-stock recovery, option two will then allow you to boot reboot directly into recovery. Unlike your G2, to be able to even be able to boot into clockwork, you have to first have to use option one as listed above.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.koushikdutta.droid2.bootstrap
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This post was a huge help too btw... thanks a ton.
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Very glad to hear I was able to be of some help, also glad to hear that the above contact issue was resolved.
Any suggestions on how to overclock it? I'm guessing setCPU is out of the question. I notice that even on Fission her D2G is slower than my G2 doing basic stuff like unlocking the phone and typing on the physical keyboard (words have to "catch up"). Just overall dissappointed with Motorola on this one. Def gonna stick to HTC solely from now on.
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sinistersai4d4d said:
Ok started over from scratch with nandroid backup. Got her contacts back. Flashed fresh Fission (DON'T USE THEMES THEY ARE ALL FLAWED! I TRIED 3 popular ones)
Anyway her phone runs Sooooo much smoother. MOtoBlur is a huge failure and resource hog. Google shouldn't let them all ruin their OS like that...
Anyway, Fission works great so far. Very stable and mostly painless install if you backup apps with Titanium and contacts too.
Thanks for the help!
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You can only flash Themes that are for Fission. They are available in the FRM including many other add ons you probably want to have as well.
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You can only flash Themes that are for Fission. They are available in the FRM including many other add ons you probably want to have as well.
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Yeah I know. And the three Fission themes I tried all broke at least one thing. Random stuff in settings and odd features that wouldn't work. Maybe it's just my phone... works much better sans themes.
Okay I'm pretty new to Android and rooting and all that stuff, so I'm kind of confused by everything. I rooted my Inspire with Bubby's one-click method (except I don't understand why it's called "one-click" because it took me like two hours and wasn't one click...) and I'd like to install a custom rom now, but I have no clue what to be looking for...Are there any Honeycomb roms for the Inspire yet? Can anybody recommend something good for me? Also a video or detailed instructions on how to flash it would be helpful. (I watched a video on how to root with Bubby's thing)
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:O sorry, I knew it seemed odd that there were no questions in there...I guess I should have looked into it more, haha. Thanks for moving it.
IM using CoreDroid 5.0 and its really good. I recommend it.
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What does it have? Like what android version and what version of sense? Also where can I get it?
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Yeah, prolly be a good idea if you've never flashed before to stick with one of the stock based roms to begin with...probably without even an overclocking kernel in it.
Get the basics down before you go after the more elaborate ROMs.
1. Go to Market
2. Download ROM Manager
3. install it
4. Open it and click "Flash Clockwork Mod Recovery" allow root permission
5. will say "confirm model" (though it only gives you htc Desire as option)
6. Click that and allow it to flash - will say "success" when complete
7. Click on "back up current ROM"
8. It will then boot you into clockworkmod recovery and do a back up
9. Once complete...Reboot
10. download a custom ROM (From phone browser or pc)
11. place into root of sdcard
12. on your phone click on ROM Manager
13. click reboot into recovery - click ok
- wait for recovery menu to load up. -
14. (depending on ROM - you may need to click "wipe data/factory reset" then "wipe cache partition" its always not a bad idea anyway...'specially if your coming from different ROM builds. To keep your apps and data, download Titanium Back up from market and back up your user apps and data, like account info and email data. That way you don't have to re-enter all that stuff each time you flash to different ROM)
15. click "install zip from sdcard"
16. then "choose zip from sdcard"
17. scroll to downloaded ROM .zip - choose it
18. goto "Yes- install (name of .zip)" choose it
Then let it do its thing...once its completed installing...choose go back and then Reboot system.
depending on ROM it might take a few minutes to load..but I say no more than 5 minutes. Once rebooted, skip all the account stuff, goto market, download Titanium Backup (if not already in flashed ROM) and restore your stuff.
That's the most basic way...get used to doing that...then move onto more crazy ROM's where you gotta flash 3 or 4 or more patches.
enjoy your new ROM.
i think it would be better to get a general idea of how each rom runs on the phone...then narrow down your choices from that and by which particular options or themes and such. everyone is going to have an opinion on which rom is the best...
Coming from the captivate section though....i think it would be nice to have a breakdown of known problems from each rom base. For example, which roms are known to need a sound fix, or which ones are known to cause battery drain, etc etc.
From what i have read, the desire hd based roms need the sound fix, but what are the other problems with using it? What are the problems/reasons more people aren't using the Inspire rom as a base? Are the gingerbread leak based roms for the DHD and have the same problems? What are the known issues with CM7 so far?
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Yeah, prolly be a good idea if you've never flashed before to stick with one of the stock based roms to begin with...probably without even an overclocking kernel in it.
Get the basics down before you go after the more elaborate ROMs.
1. Go to Market
2. Download ROM Manager
3. install it
4. Open it and click "Flash Clockwork Mod Recovery" allow root permission
5. will say "confirm model" (though it only gives you htc Desire as option)
6. Click that and allow it to flash - will say "success" when complete
7. Click on "back up current ROM"
8. It will then boot you into clockworkmod recovery and do a back up
9. Once complete...Reboot
10. download a custom ROM (From phone browser or pc)
11. place into root of sdcard
12. on your phone click on ROM Manager
13. click reboot into recovery - click ok
- wait for recovery menu to load up. -
14. (depending on ROM - you may need to click "wipe data/factory reset" then "wipe cache partition" its always not a bad idea anyway...'specially if your coming from different ROM builds. To keep your apps and data, download Titanium Back up from market and back up your user apps and data, like account info and email data. That way you don't have to re-enter all that stuff each time you flash to different ROM)
15. click "install zip from sdcard"
16. then "choose zip from sdcard"
17. scroll to downloaded ROM .zip - choose it
18. goto "Yes- install (name of .zip)" choose it
Then let it do its thing...once its completed installing...choose go back and then Reboot system.
depending on ROM it might take a few minutes to load..but I say no more than 5 minutes. Once rebooted, skip all the account stuff, goto market, download Titanium Backup (if not already in flashed ROM) and restore your stuff.
That's the most basic way...get used to doing that...then move onto more crazy ROM's where you gotta flash 3 or 4 or more patches.
enjoy your new ROM.
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Talk about spoon feeding. Lol
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Just for the fun of it, you should try MIUI. The instructions on the thread are clear and easy, and it's a different experience than the rest of the others. I don't know why more people aren't trying it, it's really smooth and damn fast. If you want to stick with the regular ROMs, dilligafs ROM is a great piece of work.
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My personal experience is cm7 is great. I'm currently running the latest nightly and have had 0 issues with it. I've tried other roms such as the sense based ones but i just can't stay for some reason. I tried MIUI as well but it's just not for me. I'm a fan of vanilla android so cm7 seem's the one to be the closest that i can get to it, atm anyways.
But you should try multiple roms and decided which one you perfer the best.
But do I have to lose all my stuff everytime I try a new ROM? I lost all but like 10 contacts when I rooted and I lost all my apps...I thought the apps stayed in my Market Account, but nope. I was wrong.
Okay so in ROM Manager, when I go to "Download ROM" there's a Core Droid ROM, but there are two. Which one do I use? One is 4.8 and the other is 4.9, but the 4.9 one says "patch" in the description so idk if I'm supposed to install both, or what?
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But do I have to lose all my stuff everytime I try a new ROM? I lost all but like 10 contacts when I rooted and I lost all my apps...I thought the apps stayed in my Market Account, but nope. I was wrong.
Okay so in ROM Manager, when I go to "Download ROM" there's a Core Droid ROM, but there are two. Which one do I use? One is 4.8 and the other is 4.9, but the 4.9 one says "patch" in the description so idk if I'm supposed to install both, or what?
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you'll have to read that thread under the Inspire 4G Android Development and ask over there...I'm not familiar enough nor have I tried that one yet. Or I may have...I can't remember. The Ingersoll ROM and the dilligaf ROM are the only 2 oc Roms I've flashed and had no problems with when installed. But I'm looking for speed and performance over bells and whistles.
I would read and download from the threads rather than Rom manager.
Yes you will prolly lose stuff when you flash different ROMs. That's why I also suggested you should get familiar with titanium back up...it was made for stuff like this...and guys like us
Use titanium backup to back up your apps and app settings. Use google contacts to backup your contacts.
Instead of downloading the rom in RomManager, you can download it from the threads in the dev section, transfer it to the SD card, and then flash it with Clockwork Recovery.
okay I'm having a problem now. I tried to boot into recovery to do a Nandroid backup, and I installed an app called Quick Boot that has a button to boot into recovery, so I did it, but it just came up with a blank screen. The screen wasn't off though, it was just blank. I tried to look it up and somebody said hold down power, volume up, and home, and I did it, it vibrated a couple times, then the screen went off. Now the LED is just flashing...I have no clue what to do now...Can somebody help?
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okay I'm having a problem now. I tried to boot into recovery to do a Nandroid backup, and I installed an app called Quick Boot that has a button to boot into recovery, so I did it, but it just came up with a blank screen. The screen wasn't off though, it was just blank. I tried to look it up and somebody said hold down power, volume up, and home, and I did it, it vibrated a couple times, then the screen went off. Now the LED is just flashing...I have no clue what to do now...Can somebody help?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1019868
How do I do either of those options if I can't use my phone?
Ferrari353 said:
I tried to look it up and somebody said hold down power, volume up, and home, and I did it, it vibrated a couple times, then the screen went off.
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Where did you get those instructions?
here: http://android.modaco.com/content/s...o-com/314702/help-getting-into-recovery-mode/ the second post.
I just googled "android recovery mode only showing blank screen"
Back to the original question, I got my inspire last night and am using the android revolution beta that's based on gingerbread and it seems really solid. Been off the charger 7 hours and sitting at 80% battery and its very fast.
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Back to the original question, I got my inspire last night and am using the android revolution beta that's based on gingerbread and it seems really solid. Been off the charger 7 hours and sitting at 80% battery and its very fast.
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how much were you using your phone in that 7 hours? Was it in standby the whole time or were you actually using it?
This Guide assumes that you have S-off and are rooted. It gives the most basic instructions for a first time flasher, it'll also take you through a Nandroid back up using ClockworkMod v4.0.0.4.
Select a rom.
Choose from here or, click the LBC link in my sigi and download the excellent rom and put it in the root of your SD card.
Turn your phone off and just this once pull and refit the battery, just to be sure your not going to run into any problems getting into Hboot from a power on state.
Press and hold the volume down button and press the power/on button. Your now turning your phone on and entering Hboot (bootloader). You'll soon get a white screen with skateboarding types at the bottom. (Oh dear! Notice the one on the far right looks as if he is about to fall off his skateboard! This isn't important).
Wait for the green writing to flash on the screen and go away, any errors that you notice are completely NORMAL!
Press the volume down button once more to highlight RECOVERY.
Press the power button to select.
Your phone will Vibrate (or at least mine does), and after loading you'll get a black screen with purple writing.
Congratulations are in order! You've reached RECOVERY. At this point it might be useful to go outside and bark at the moon if the excitement overcomes you. It did me.
Better? Right lets get to work. This is the business end of flashing and what can't be done here can't be done at all. Well, OK actually there is Android Flasher, Fastboot Commander and lets not forget your Command Line Editor but we'll gloss over those until you've earn't your stripes.
Using the Vol button navigate to BACK UP AND RESTORE and Select using the Power button.
Select BACK UP.
Your now backing up your existing rom and creating your first Nandroid back up. Your Nandroid back up lives on your SD card and can be moved to another file for safe keeping, renamed, corrupted or deleted. If you value your information, keep it safe.
Once finished, you'll get the message "Backup complete!" All we've done to this point is back up the rom that you've been using, at this point you could hit the power button and continue using your old rom, or wipe your phone and falsh a fresh one.
Its important to remember here that if you are going to wipe your phone, your actually deleting HTC's stock rom off the phone and a factory reset will not undo this. After you have wiped, the only way to get your phone back to a factory condition is to flash (load) a stock rom back on, (RUU). You MUST wipe your phone before installing a new rom, there is no way around this.
Wiping and flashing a fresh rom is far more exciting than HTC's offering and that's why you S-offed and rooted anyway isn't it?! Here's how we do that.
Using the Vol button, highlight WIPE DATA/FACTORY RESET.
Once done, highlight WIPE CACHE PARTITION.
Normally this is enough for a normal reflash but if your recovering from a problem or an issue and want a really really good clean up, perform these optional steps:
Select MOUNTS AND STORAGE
Using your vol and power button:
format /cache
format /data
format /system
Select +++++Go Back+++++
Select Advanced
Wipe Dalvik Cache
Reboot Recovery. This step is quite important and your phone will as it says reboot, so don't worry, just let it do its thing.
Wipe Data/Factory Reset once more.
There that's all the wiping done. It's worth noting now that at this stage your phone now has no operating software installed on it! A little scary isn't it? Apart from a bootloader and a radio there's very little else on your pride and joy right now!!! YOU WIPED IT! OK, enough, lets get your new rom installed.
Select install zip from SD card.
choose zip from SD card.
Select your rom
In about 4 to 5 minutes the phone will tell you its done. (DO NOT INTERUPT THIS PROCESS), make sure you have at least 75% battery before you begin!
Are we done?
Now is the time to flash any non optional extras that your rom may need. For instance CyanogenMOD does not come with the Market or Google Apps in Update so flash them now. Refer to your rom developers page for further information on this.
Any kernels, keyboards or mods from the kitchen also get flashed here. These are a little more advanced so lets not go there right now.
Reboot system.
This is your roms intital install and always takes a while to complete. However if your waiting mor than 10 minutes at this stage consult your specific rom developers page.
Press the thanks button.
Done.
this is a very very great guide for the newbies! Thanks man
I have a question for ya... what's nandroid backup? does it backup my stock ROM as well? so if I want back my old stock rom, I just flash back the backup? Need more understanding. Thanks.!
nodeffect said:
this is a very very great guide for the newbies! Thanks man
I have a question for ya... what's nandroid backup? does it backup my stock ROM as well? so if I want back my old stock rom, I just flash back the backup? Need more understanding. Thanks.!
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A Nandroid back up is the back up you make while in RECOVERY mode. It is an almost complete image of the phone, system, data, and caches are saved. It is important to note that when you wipe you are WIPING HTC's ROM FROM THE PHONE! After a wipe a factory reset will not take your phone back to the state where it left the shop. You'll need an RUU for that.
I appreciate the feed back.
Thanks for the step by step guide, I flashed the Virtuous Unity ROM and it is working perfectly.
Exactly what I've been looking for, thanks
Impressive guide
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make sure you have at least 30% battery before you begin!
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Good guide man. But you really, really want to have the phone plugged in and charged. Pref at least 75% battery if on battery power alone. Just for those unforseens ...
Peace
Great guide, thanks very much. I have a question about radios when installing a custom rom.
I see that some of the custom roms do not have a radio. How do I know which radio to use to go with that rom? Many rom threads don't seem to specify. Do I leave my stock one, or do I need a different one?
Also, if I do decide to install a custom kernal at a later time, does that mean re-installing the custom rom again first?
Thanks very much for any help for a noob to android!
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Great guide, thanks very much. I have a question about radios when installing a custom rom.
I see that some of the custom roms do not have a radio. How do I know which radio to use to go with that rom? Many rom threads don't seem to specify. Do I leave my stock one, or do I need a different one?
Also, if I do decide to install a custom kernal at a later time, does that mean re-installing the custom rom again first?
Thanks very much for any help for a noob to android!
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Don't flash a radio unless you really need to, its not necessary, if your phone works perfectly well with the radio you have my advice is; leave well alone and use the stock radio.
Any add ons such as kernels can be flashed any time after a rom flash and there is no no to reflash a rom just for a fresh kernel etc. Just go back into recovery and flash the exta's, don't wipe.
What I would advise though is when installing any new rom is not to flash any extras until the rom has been running as a stand alone for about 30 minutes. Any, shall we say "toys," Themes and a lot of Kitchen baked stuff should be flashed after the rom has run alone a while and settled, this makes it far easier to understand any issues your fresh rom may have as its easier to identify what's causing it.
This is a bit of a minefield though because some roms need add ons for the first flash, such as CyanogenMod needs the Market and Gmail. Stuff like A2SD scripts also need to be flashed prior to the first boot or they wont work. Your rom Developer should be specific about these.
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Don't flash a radio unless you really need to, its not necessary, if your phone works perfectly well with the radio you have my advice is; leave well alone and use the stock radio.
Any add ons such as kernels can be flashed any time after a rom flash and there is no no to reflash a rom just for a fresh kernel etc. Just go back into recovery and flash the exta's, don't wipe.
What I would advise though is when installing any new rom is not to flash any extras until the rom has been running as a stand alone for about 30 minutes. Any, shall we say "toys," Themes and a lot of Kitchen baked stuff should be flashed after the rom has run alone a while and settled, this makes it far easier to understand any issues your fresh rom may have as its easier to identify what's causing it.
This is a bit of a minefield though because some roms need add ons for the first flash, such as CyanogenMod needs the Market and Gmail. Stuff like A2SD scripts also need to be flashed prior to the first boot or they wont work. Your rom Developer should be specific about these.
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Superb, thanks very much that's good info! I've just now got S-off with AlphaRevX, and I'm now running the SAGA LBC Mod, just need to learn my way around the new features! Is it possible to now remove some apps like Facebook from this rom?
ems328i said:
Is it possible to now remove some apps like Facebook from this rom?
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I use Titanium Back Up to freeze the apps before deleting. That way if I get too naughty and freeze something that's needed it can be restored.
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I use Titanium Back Up to freeze the apps before deleting. That way if I get too naughty and freeze something that's needed it can be restored.
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Great tip, thanks again, much appreciated!
How to backup the personal data and apps at one ROM in order to restore them at new ROM? Thank you for the answer in advance.
Thanks for the guide.
Many thanks
Thank you for this great guide! I am a total noob and I flashed the LBC mod according to your guide. I already got root, as I had done this by other guide. I would like to add some advice for other noobs out there like me. The only setback I got, was that after installing new ROM, it froze, and the problem seems to be my Google account, which wants to sync all apps at once right after you have typed in your password and checked the "sync with my account" checkbox. the best would be to somehow uninstall all your apps from old rom after backing them up with Titanium. The problem was, that while trying to download all the apps again, it froze so hard, that it still showed me the charging LED, and the screen was unresponsive even after I had pulled the charger over 15mins ago. Even the power button did nothing. So I went back to recovery, trying to do the whole wiping/formatting drill with Dalvik Cache and i received errors in the recovery, even while navigating between menus that mounting recovery failed. I got very desperate and taught it would be best to just take a break. It was good idea. when I came back the phone had cooled down and I received no more errors while wiping/formatting/installing. I then just forbid the google account to back up my data online and that did the trick. No more freezes and LBC mod looks, feels and behaves just perfect. I got a whole new PDA now, with whole new capabilities. And also, many of the ROM-s does not include the Sim ToolKit, the STK. This is quite neccesary for people in Estonia and soon for most people in the world, as its neccesary for Mobile-ID. Most of us vote for president for instance by digitally signing our vote with mobile-ID which is an even greater extenson of ID-card. And as a businessman I need to give at least couple of signatures each day. I would be quite unhappy, when I would need to drive 200km to another city just to sign a document, or messing with my ID-card, card reader and stupid drivers, to sign something manually or even worse, use a pen to sign something haha So its a very vital component of all phones that use SIM-card and it soon going to be a must have in most countries in the world. So every Estonian here, if you are in need, get the neccesary STK (download the version for android 2.3.4, the 2.3.3 version won't work for LBC 0.5.3) from the Estonian Hinnavaatlus forum here: http://foorum.hinnavaatlus.ee/viewtopic.php?p=6564414#6564414
Again, thanks for the guide, its a dream come true.
Your Welcome.
ems328i said:
Superb, thanks very much that's good info! I've just now got S-off with AlphaRevX, and I'm now running the SAGA LBC Mod, just need to learn my way around the new features! Is it possible to now remove some apps like Facebook from this rom?
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Yup you can delete facebook etc, if you want to just clean it up, but your not going to make any extra room, unless you learn how to install apk apps into your system partition, rather than market apps into your data partition..
nodeffect said:
this is a very very great guide for the newbies! Thanks man
I have a question for ya... what's nandroid backup? does it backup my stock ROM as well? so if I want back my old stock rom, I just flash back the backup? Need more understanding. Thanks.!
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I dont think this question was answered clearly enough Can you restore your phone back exactly the way it was before with the nandroid back up you made? If not what is the point of the back up?
Also, it it best to do a nandroid back up the way you described or would it be just as good to let the ROM manager App do it for you?
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I dont think this question was answered clearly enough Can you restore your phone back exactly the way it was before with the nandroid back up you made? If not what is the point of the back up?
Also, it it best to do a nandroid back up the way you described or would it be just as good to let the ROM manager App do it for you?
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Nandroid Backup (to be honest - a tiny piece of Googling would give you the answer to this) but, in answer to your question, yes, a Nandroid backup takes the phone state back to effectively when the backup was was taken....I use it often when testing ROMS and then returning to my daily use ROM.
The only thing that isn't backed up by the backup and therefore isn't restored is your Radio so if you change version you need to flash the older version (which I'm sure that you'll be advised not to!) to return to the same state you were in.
ROM Manager nandroid and manual recovery nandroid are the same, it's just a matter of choice and personal preference. Some people like command line other like GUI. However, using recovery based backup it means that you'll hopefully have a slightly greater understaing of what is actually happening and the options that are avialiable to you, which means should there ever come a time when only recovery is accessible - you won't [email protected] your pants!
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simple and easy thanks dude
I've decided to finally take the plunge and install a custom rom onto my Infuse. I've read through the various rom threads, but they are so saturated with information that I just can't figure out which I want to install.
So, I ask you guys. Which rom is the most stable? By that I mean: which rom will I have the least problems with? Honestly, I've had zero problems with stock, but I'm looking for something new. I would like to have as little problems as possible. I'm just sick of waiting around for the AT&T GB update.
Thanks in advance
I'm using SerendipityVII right now. It works quite well. Haven't had any problems.
I used Infusedv2 before changing to SVII, but I liked SVII's themes I saw out on the forum. Both ran amazingy well. I never had any problems with either of them. What I suggest is trying them out for yourself. Maybe you'll spot out a problem I didn't. So the best thing for you is to give them a go. If you don't like them, you can always go back to stock or simply install a different one. The instructions on how to install them are pretty much clear, and even if you accidentally brick it, Odin is always there to back you up. But my suggestion is Serendipity.
Awesome man thanks!
I think I will give Infused a try first, as I the Touchwiz look has grown on me quite a bit. Hopefully I don't mess this up!
No problem man. What I suggest is read some more info on how to unbrick it, just in case you do, you already have an idea on how to do it. This way, you won't freak out once it happens lol. I've actually bricked mine a couple of times already because I don't read the instructions carefully on how to flash different ROMs. LOL. So don't be stupid like me and take your time.
Definitely man was just reading through one now.
I'm a little worried about my system info though. The instructions for Infused rom say not to restore apps and data with Titanium Backup. Will my apps still be there when the rom boots up? Or is there another way I should go about backing them up?
This is all so confusing
Restore MISSING apps and data only.
As to stability - other than CM7/MIUI they're all stable. The Dlev port can potentially have some instability as it includes an overclock kernel by default. It's a quality-not-quantity game us devs play.
All of the ROMs have a few known issues (many traceable back to Rogers Gingerbread or all the way back to Google in the case of the Market large download issues), but no showstoppers.
When installing any new rom on your phone it is highly recommended that you delete all system data and wipe the cache.
FEAR not though!! Back up all your apps with data with titanium backup prior to flashing the new rom. Once the rom is flashed and you download titanium, run the batch to RESTORE MISSING APPS WITH DATA. This will put all your apps back onto your phone with any data they had(settings, saves in games, etc.)
I just started messing with roms myself and I'm enjoying it, just always make sure you have a recent backup with titanium before you flash and then you can enjoy.
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When installing any new rom on your phone it is highly recommended that you delete all system data and wipe the cache.
FEAR not though!! Back up all your apps with data with titanium backup prior to flashing the new rom. Once the rom is flashed and you download titanium, run the batch to RESTORE MISSING APPS WITH DATA. This will put all your apps back onto your phone with any data they had(settings, saves in games, etc.)
I just started messing with roms myself and I'm enjoying it, just always make sure you have a recent backup with titanium before you flash and then you can enjoy.
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Haha I just keep getting more confused!
If I back up with Titanium, wipe the cache and system data, and then flash the rom, won't that mean when the phone boots back up with Infused that it will have no apps or anything else on it? Even Titanium Backup?
If that is the case how will Titanium Backup know what to restore?
Wish I wasn't such a noob
You'll boot the rom that you installed without any apps unless they were packed with the rom. Once loaded, go to the market and download titanium again and it'll locate the back up you had. From there restore missing apps + data and it'll install all the apps you had previously when you backed up your phone.
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You'll boot the rom that you installed without any apps unless they were packed with the rom. Once loaded, go to the market and download titanium again and it'll locate the back up you had. From there restore missing apps + data and it'll install all the apps you had previously when you backed up your phone.
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Thanks so much. I had just started the installation figuring I would have to just re-download everything, but this is a huge relief haha
I'd advised getting the pro version btw. I believe the free version will let you do the batch install for all the apps, but you'll have to OK every single app it tries to install. The paid version won't make you do this, trust me you'll want the paid version.
BTW, it's cheaper to get the pro version from inside of the program than it is to get it off the market.
Holy crap that was super quick! I was thinking it would take hours to install.
Now just to get all my apps back!
Thanks for all the help everybody!
NP, enjoy. Using infused myself and it's pretty stable. Only gripe I have about it is the gps is pretty crappy. I haven't had a working gps since stock froyo.
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NP, enjoy. Using infused myself and it's pretty stable. Only gripe I have about it is the gps is pretty crappy. I haven't had a working gps since stock froyo.
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Yeah, that was a bit bothersome. Everytime I opened an app that needed GPS, I was like "Cr*p... I forgot. That doesn't work."
They are all good and stable.... But I am using Serendipity VII myself.
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One other thing besides purchasing TB Pro, is that you should back up every once in a while in CWM. Its take forever to restore if you need to use it, but i trust it over TB ANY DAY!!!! Just a suggestion.
I think for the most part all the ROMs are stable, but I've had the most success and have been happiest with Infuse 2.2
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In my opinion, the best ROM by far is the Miui ROM for this phone
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Only appropriate answer is to try it for a day or 2 and decide for yourself
Coming from the epic and never rooting my previous evo I never knew what the big deal with cm7 was.
After running it, it is pretty awesome.
Some of the reasons are the advanced settings menu the customization options in there are nice. Other people will say because the nightlies. I don't ever run them.
But truly you must test it and decide for yourself. Best advice I could give ya
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yeah but wiping the phone sucks ...
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yeah but wiping the phone sucks ...
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That's what titanium backup and nand backups are for.
nexus s 4g don't have a sd card, doesn't it get wiped when you reset? or do you mean do a tb and copy it off somewhere then copy back and restore?
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nexus s 4g don't have a sd card, doesn't it get wiped when you reset? or do you mean do a tb and copy it off somewhere then copy back and restore?
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The SD card is left untouched for everything but when you first unlock the bootloader.
but there is no sd card in the 4g i'm confused.
There is a folder called SDCARD which acts as a non-removable SD Card, I guess.
Benefits of CM7 are many more features and tweaks. I liked being able to rotate the phone 180 degrees, even on the desktop / main screen. There are so many other customization options, I can remember what's in stock anymore
Now I'm on MIUI though. It has many features I like, but I still miss some from CM7.
As stated nandroid back up your current system. And TB your apps.
Flash any rom you want to try. Restore your apps if you like what you see and want to really test it out.
If not wipe and flash a different rom. Or nandroid back to your current rom.
As long as you don't wipe the SD card everything stays there except for the android secure folder. You can even move your nandroid to a computer if you want.
Just my personal opinion, I would choose stock rooted for stability. I've never found, to the best of my forgetful memory, a cyanogenmod rom that was completely stable without weird snafus. I'm not talking about nightly or beta either. Those are even more unstable.
First off, judging by your question and lack of understanding of what happens when you root/flash custom roms you should really do more research. Read in the development section about rooting, read a few guides in fact. Read other people's questions before, during, and after rooting. Read instructions for flashing custom roms, again paying attention to others question before, during, and after.
This is a great thread when it comes to how to flash roms, themes, and kernels but the information regarding roms is severely outdated.
As for your primary question, there is no answer. Try it. You don't like it? Try another? That one still not quite right? Try another, and another, and another. Still not liking anything, learning to theme isn't hard, especially with the UOT Kitchen. No one can tell you what will work for you, your life, and your phone.
actually i am rooted and have matr1x kernel installed, i also am rooted on my xoom with tiamat 2.2.2, i really wanted to know what real benefit cm7 would give me over stock...
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actually i am rooted and have matr1x kernel installed, i also am rooted on my xoom with tiamat 2.2.2, i really wanted to know what real benefit cm7 would give me over stock...
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There is so much the CM offers. Basically CM gives you the option to do whatever you want to your phone. I personally enjoy the DSP Manager app, the power options that are added, and theme Chooser the most. The best way to get an idea of the features is to look at a changelog for our device. It will tell you everything that has been added/subtracted from the ROM. For me, the new stable release and the Trinity 1.2 kernel is rock solid. Haven't had a single reboot since flashing
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