[NS4G] Why won't my phone properly charge? - Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I am having horrible issues with my Nexus S 4G. The phone does not seem to charge properly.
What is wrong with this phone? My Evo would charge at around 800+mA in, while the NS4G barely gets above 100 with the screen on and around 400 screen off. Is this just a Samsung vs HTC design issue or should I return this while I can?
Additionally, the charge never gets to 100%. I've read that charging while the phone is off alleviates the problem but it hadn't helped at all innumerable case.
Is SBC available for this phone? I really enjoyed that extra feature on my old phone.
Thank you!
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Mine doesn't charge to 100% either. It actually seems to charge to around 80% because as soon as I unplug it, it drops to around 80% within the first hour and then discharges normally from there.

The battery is not supposed to charge to 100. Its a feature that turns charging off right around 94 percent to preserve the life span of the battery it self.
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you can try wiping the battery stats from the recovery. some times it helps.
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To previous epic owners, question about battery life and charging.

Very simple. I've read the tmo ns takes a long time to charge but the battery lasts okay. The epic takes a while of undisturbed charging to fill up the battery. Epic's battery life is so so IMO.
What are your thoughts? The reason I have been asking so many questions about these two phones is I'm giving it some thought about maybe getting one. One thing I would like to hold out for is the seidio (sp) extended battery and cover. I have also read that the aftermarket batteries are good in the beginning but get worse (than stock do with age) rather quickly. I've got a 3300 coming in the mail so I'm excited to see how good it is.
I can't comment on stock but with cm7 rc4 I got 18 hours yesterday before the 15% remaining warning popped up and I plugged it in. My usage is a few phone calls between 300-500 texts heavy internet browsing and some gaming among a few other things. Been unplugged for 8 hours and I'm on 59% right now.
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And charging I honestly don't know because I charge during the night. However the other night I plugged it in with 4% left and slept for 4-5 hours and it was fully charged.
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I owned the Epic 4g when it first came out...battery life was about 1 percent per minute with the screen on. My Nexus S battery with CM7 and og kernel lasts about 3 times longer than the Epic 4g.

Battery charge

How long does your nexus s battery take to charge?
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crappy charger. someone asked this a day or so ago here. on phone so cant give you a link. try a search (not being a ****)
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I donno...between 3 and 3.5 hours roughly. Pretty fast.
I'm using stock charger that came with phone.
No light indicator to indicate charging or fully charged? I've been charging via USB and it gets to 94%, so fully charged and stops charging. That's as high as it will get...
About to go work out, going to put it on wall charger and see what happens!!
Anyone else have this problem or just me because of the usb charge?
Mine only goes upto 94% br well with the wall charger.
Apparently It's a safety feature
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Mine goes to 96% typically and I've once seen it reach 97%, it's a bug, not a safety feature. As a safety feature, to prevent it from overcharging, it's supposed to charge up to 100% then stop charging until it reaches a safety level such as 95% then resume charging again. This is just a bug in the system.
Takes me just over 3 1/2 hours from dead to fully charged.
Mine goes up to 98%. Once in a while it will go up to 99%.
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1500mAh/700mA = 2.1h, i.e. less than 2h.
It will never (ever) reach 100% if your charger and phone is working correctly. It IS a safety feature. Eventhough the phone is connected to the charger, it still uses battery to run. The charger stops charging when it gets close to 100% and charges some more when it's safe to do so. Meanwhile the phone uses the battery to stay alive and if you unplug it between theese charging cycles it will be anything between ~93 and ~99%.
It seems like forever honestly with this phone. My Evo would charge in about an hour and a half. This phone takes easily 3.5 hours if not more.
For some reason Samsung chargers take longer to charge a phone.
If I use my HTC charger the phone charges a lot quicker
I also read this somewhere on another site
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Vakas said:
For some reason Samsung chargers take longer to charge a phone.
If I use my HTC charger the phone charges a lot quicker
I also read this somewhere on another site
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HTC chargers are typically 1000mah and samsung chargers are 700mah... So there's the difference.
what is up with this phone i went to sprint got a new battery not knowing this was an issue of not getting to 100%. i came from att and having the htc inspire kinda like the evo i guess it would fully charge in about an hour and last me about 12 hrs of actual use. the nexus s takes about 3 hours to fully charge and i get about 5 hours with 0% brightness im thinking about going back and returning the phone.
luar949 said:
what is up with this phone i went to sprint got a new battery not knowing this was an issue of not getting to 100%. i came from att and having the htc inspire kinda like the evo i guess it would fully charge in about an hour and last me about 12 hrs of actual use. the nexus s takes about 3 hours to fully charge and i get about 5 hours with 0% brightness im thinking about going back and returning the phone.
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While I do not what is draining your battery so quickly, the reason for the charge time is stated in the post above yours. The charger that came with the Nexus S is a 700mAh charger, while many others (notably HTC's) use the full 1000mAh charge possible on a MicroUSB line. More power over the same amount of time = faster charging.
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While I do not what is draining your battery so quickly, the reason for the charge time is stated in the post above yours. The charger that came with the Nexus S is a 700mAh charger, while many others (notably HTC's) use the full 1000mAh charge possible on a MicroUSB line. More power over the same amount of time = faster charging.
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how many hours of battery do you get normally?
I got to say via. Battery is a lot better than my desire hd.
This only has a 1230Mah battery. Still can't believe it lol
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Mine usually stops charging between 92 and 96 percent. I thought mine took a while to charge until I read somewhere that draining the battery completely leads to faster recharging times. I didn't keep track or anything but it does SEEM to charge faster now.
hi there
is any one have my problem?
i buy a nexus s in yesterday
but the battry cant hold charge for atleast 1 day!!
it usage is about 1 - 2 % charge in every houre!
i do workinig for example 10 minutes with the phone for setting ant etc .and then i saw the 4-6 % of battry charge go down!
or sometimes the phone is puting on standby for 30-40 mintunes
with no sms or calls,but its use about 6 % of battry chage!!!!!
and for wifi and games its even faster that it!
finally for a normal usage like 10-20 sms ,15 min call ,30 min browsing phone menues and apps and 20 web,
its going to be full empty!
and its meaning it cant keep charging for atleast 1 day!
i have the SLCD one ofcourse! => I9023 XXKD1
i couldnt find any superamoled version in my country to buy,
do you think its for the slcd screen?
i didnt think that its may cause this charging resaults for me just for the screen type!!!
my charging time is about 1.5 - 2 houres to full charge,that its not acceptable for me too!
i had a diamond2 with that poor battry.but i didnt think so the NS could be the same and even worst!
i upgrated my device to gingerbread officaly, from 2.3.3 to 2.3.4 by the phone,but its still no differance!
it the back of the battry i can see the 1500MA Lion , but the battry control app i my NS shows maximun 1200 MA power!?!!
can it be the truth?
do u think its battry power completly depended to rom and radio version to fix?
if that is,can any one intreduce me a good and fast and bugless rom and radio version?
thanks a lot :roze

[Q] Battery Lag?

Hey guys, I have a problem with my Sensation. Whenever I fully charge it and then remove it from the charger, use it for like an hour or two, the phone still thinks the battery is 100% charged. When looking inside the battery usage, it shows the graph with 0s underneath it, while in the previous screen where you see the apps battery usage it says 2h 5m 13s or something like that.
This wouldn't really be a problem, but when I started up Maps Navigation and plugged the charger in the car, it wouldn't charge because it still assumed the battery was 100% charged!
Any of you also having this problem? Thanks in advance!
atticus182 said:
Hey guys, I have a problem with my Sensation. Whenever I fully charge it and then remove it from the charger, use it for like an hour or two, the phone still thinks the battery is 100% charged. When looking inside the battery usage, it shows the graph with 0s underneath it, while in the previous screen where you see the apps battery usage it says 2h 5m 13s or something like that.
This wouldn't really be a problem, but when I started up Maps Navigation and plugged the charger in the car, it wouldn't charge because it still assumed the battery was 100% charged!
Any of you also having this problem? Thanks in advance!
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Does it stay 100% forever? Then you may have the inexhaustible battery... (not sure if this is grammaticaly correct )
I wouldn't consider this a problem. You can download a battery monitoring app from the market and see what's going on with your phone and if the 100% that it's rerporting is correct. Also, check that the battery contacts are clean.
Not sure my phone does that but it can be on half charge then when I reset phone it's gone up a notch. This morning it didn't look like it had charged although it had been plugged in. When I switched it was on orange then it did the charging animation for a few seconds without charger plugged in then stopped on full. Odd.
Mine stays on 100% for a couple of hours too, has done since I got it.
I think perhaps HTC are "cheating" (or using "creative coding", whichever expression you prefer) in the way they report the battery percentage. Make the battery appear better than it is. Just a theory, of course.
This morning it didn't look likeit had charged although it had been plugged in. When I switched it was on orange then it did the charging animation for a few seconds without charger plugged in then stopped on full. Odd
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That happens to me a lot too. Woke up this morning, phone had been charging for nearly 5 hours, but was only on 82%. After a couple of minutes of the screen being on, it had leapt to 100% and stopped charging.
Also, once the battery is below about 20%, it will sometimes drop 2-3% at a time. Odd.
Looks like they totally screwed the battery meter hardware or something in the software. Remembers me of my iPod touch
Experienced the say.. hopefully either it will auto be fine due to charge cycle or via updates
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The Battery driver that LG used for the G2X has the same problem,a simple reboot fixes it,hope this helps "temporarily" that is.Cheers
Not just the sensation - my wildfire does the same yet my galaxy tab doesnt
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Mine stays on 100% for a couple of hours too, has done since I got it.
I think perhaps HTC are "cheating" (or using "creative coding", whichever expression you prefer) in the way they report the battery percentage. Make the battery appear better than it is. Just a theory, of course..
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Thanks for your answer, so it's probably a general problem that may be fixed by either HTC or the Cooks that make ROM's for our beautiful new phones
Can you tell me how long it takes for your phone to fully charge?My phone needs 3-4 hours to fully charge..is this normal?!
Hmm mine doesn`t lag but it takes times to charge. Usually with my hd2 take around less than 2 hours to fully charge now with sensation around 3 hours
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Using it almost half an hour,battery felt from 100% to 99%...And I checked the battery useage,it isn't wrong..
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Although it is dual core,I think the battery life is much better than DHD..
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I received my phone yesterday and charged it for 4-5 hours throughout the day. Last night it was close to 100% while I was playing with it (off the charger). I then charged it over night for 9 hours. This morning the battery says it's at 50% but has 15 hours left.
Weird :\
Charge the battery with the power turned off overnight, in the morning unplug the charger, turn the phone on, and shutdown again, and plug the charger back for 30
mins phone still turned off. After that start using the phone normally, this way you calibrate the phones battery meter properly.
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Charge the battery with the power turned off overnight, in the morning unplug the charger, turn the phone on, and shutdown again, and plug the charger back for 30
mins phone still turned off. After that start using the phone normally, this way you calibrate the phones battery meter properly.
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Thanks mate! I'll do that tonight

Battery to blame for some reboots?

just had a thought, my g2x just started rebooting like crazy i.e it would get to the tmobile g2x android start up animation and after it finishes it would reboot. my battery was around 30%-35% at the time i was thinking maybe the battery cant maintain a decent voltage and it falls below the g2x voltage threshold while under load and boom instant reboot. this could also explain why some batteries heat up to hot as well, they dont have a high enough discharge rate to keep up with the demands of the phone.
this can be solved one of two ways get a larger capacity battery of the same discharge rate. or get a higher discharge rate battery of the same size. both of those will allow the phone to draw more power without overtaxing the battery and would keep the battery cooler as well.
I wouldn't be surprised if the battery drivers are the culprit for all our issues. The phone can't properly read the battery charge and so the battery overheats or the phone reboots itself in hopes of getting a better reading on the battery.
i noticed my phone starts to heat up when the battery level hits around 40%. i never really understood why.
Mine once rebooted when it was plugged in and 100% charged. I think when it's plugged in it draws power from charger not the battery. So your theory, if true, only explains some reboots, not all.
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rhinology said:
Mine once rebooted when it was plugged in and 100% charged. I think when it's plugged in it draws power from charger not the battery. So your theory, if true, only explains some reboots, not all.
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I may be mistaken, but if it was in fact 100% then it was probably drawing from the battery at that point. I believe that once they reach 100% they will cycle between battery usage and charging.
well i know from using lipo batterys in my r/c planes and cars that if you draw them below 3v it can damage the battey im not sure what Li-ion low voltage is but its near the same basicly once the battery hit around 3.6 volts at rest its empty and will not hold voltage at all.
and for the 100% full charge if the battery drivers is fubar it could be overcharging your battery and damaging it so it has less capacity so when it pulls a draw it cant keep up and reboots
I plug my phone in every day before going to bed, and unplug it in the morning. If G2x doesn't have overcharging protection my battery would have been damaged long ago.
Also, I used the phone several times when it was charged 100% and still plugged in, never saw battery percentage went to 99% then back to 100%. So I believe when 100% and plugged in, it won't cycle power source through battery and charger.
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I will add a little information that may or may not have relevance. I have 4 batteries for my G2X (This is my solution to the short battery life). The LG battery, $25 AceSoft battery, and two $6 generic Chinese batteries. None of them including the dirt cheap ones cause my phone to reboot. Conclusions can be drawn from this information but I'm going to leave that up to someone else. If you want to test the battery hypothesis I suggest you buy some of those cheap batteries off of eBay and see if something changes. Would be a rather inexpensive experiment.
I agree, ever since I started using a 1900mah battery from ebay, the random reboots and freezing issues have disappeared completely, and I have been using the phone for almost a month now. Please try a different battery to get rid of random reboots and overheating issue. Hope it will help someone.
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you know what, I bought 3 ebay batteries so I can swap them around if i don't have a charger. none of them did the black lock screen. weird.
I had random reboot issues using some of the custom roms + original battery.
Then I bought a charger + batteries off ebay, and reset to original rom, and havn't had a single reboot/freeze since.
i just had my second reboot in cyanogen with my battery at 32% after if rebooted it went back up to 45%. i was playing galaxy on fire 2 when it rebooted. and according to battery monitor it was pulling 931mA when it rebooted.
i think the battery discharge rate is substandard for this phone this is a high performance phone and you cant just stick a normal cell phone battery in and expect it to work. this is in part why some of the reboots are happening and why when people got new battery they problem went away for them.
You might be on to something. Everytime my phone restarts it is because it is overheating.
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i wish we had more info on the batterys lg used like the discharge rate and everything. i bet they are .5c or 1c discharge that would be why they overcheat when under heavy use or charging
I got a replacement battery from T-Mobile this past Tuesday, and had two random reboots within an hour. However, since then, I haven't had one issue. 4 days and counting going strong... Knocking on wood. Phone is stock and rooted.
well i know cm fixed the battery should be in his next build also data speeds with gingerbread, should be build 54 not 53, something is wrong with 53 and root access so they are going to have it fixed im pretty sure in 54, here peep this via twitter.........
@CM_arcee RC
My dark magical powers have beaten the G2x's radio into submission. Starting tonight, p999 gets a battery meter and twice the data speed
3 hours ago via web
while that is awsome news i dont think the battery meter for the phone is really the problem it happens when the draw on the battery pulls it below 3v under load the batterys low voltage cutoff kicks in and shuts the phone off and then the spings back up and the phone restarts
I think it could be the chargers causing issues. My gf pulled my g2x charger out of the box and said it made her phone whacky and died after a few hours.
Her comment made me think about it.
I never had battery issues but I use my old nexus one and zune charger.
Food for thought
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My wall charger is bad, out bricks the phone every time I use it. Have to charge via USB.
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Battery charging slow after one point

Hey guys,
You can see the problem in the Screenshot. At one point the phone stops charging fast and goes on charging very slow. It looks like the phone thinks the battery is full and minimizes the charging power. It is a 1500mah battery, bought a few days ago. I also calibrated the battery at 100% in the 4ext recovery. CM 10.2 from 08.08.
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Provably not a problem at all. My guess would be that the battery or charging circuits were getting too hot so it dropped the charging current - fairly normal behavior.
The phone is staying completely cool. I think the calibration is wrong. It is supposed to charge slower at 90% Not something like 50
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I suspect a cheap battery... What brand is it?
Its a german brand MTec, oder via ebay.
I've noticed my battery does the exact same thing. Charges quickly to around 50% and then very slow for the remaining 50%. I'm using the original HTC battery that came with my Desire S so I just presumed that it was either the due to the battery aging or perhaps due to the CM 10.1 I'm running. Can't say I noticed this charging behaviour before I used CM 10.1 but I didn't immediately notice it after flashing either.
My phone takes around 8 hours to do a full charge. I've noticed that I can get it to charge to 100% more quickly if I let it charge to near 50%, unplug it and leave it for 5/10 mins, then plug it in again. It's starts off with a fast charge again. It slows after a while but overall it's a quicker way to get to 100%. It's probably not the best thing for your battery to do that regularly so I don't do it unless I need it to charge quickly.

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