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[ROM][WIP][LEGEND] Information on my Upcoming Legend Rom

Droid eris has bored me, as it seems no better than one of my all-time favorite sense roms: KingKlick's Eclair Hero 1.1.
Legend, however, has something special to offer. It is a new software, new features, has a new look, and IS STILL, and PROBABLY the last, HTC rom/phone with 320.480, so it is my goal to make it the best I can. And hey, it's gsm too (no problems like my eris rom).
My rom will be based off of the Taiwanese build 1.31. No other roms are currently based off of this HTC ruu, king's being 1.10 and vega's being 1.23.
My steps for the completion of this rom:
1) Extract RUU
2) Get it into a packaged form and booting
3) RELEASE version 1
4) Add cache hack, whatever else is new.
5) More upgrades.
Unfortunately, #1 is where I'm stuck... I need someone to help me extract the RUU. The download link I used is from the legend forum here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=649565
I clicked the "find more" link, and found an even newer one than the one linked directly in the thread, .709.2 instead of .707.2.
I need help to extract it and get this project on the road!
Thanks.

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You jumpin' on this bandwagon too? Can't wait to see it anyways . However, don't let your roms go into the directions of King's(as in starting a new rom every month or so) Friendstream smells good.

jcarrz1 said:
Droid eris has bored me.
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Try something else like carry on blur or something. There are other devs working on sense ports. Try something new and entertain the community .

Shatterv2 said:
Try something else like carry on blur or something. There are other devs working on sense ports. Try something new and entertain the community .
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I personally think BLUR looks horrible and most people in this forum would prefer sense. Am I right? does any one here like BLUR?

blur is nasty... honestly, sense is my favorite and thats what ill be working on.
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jorge89 said:
I personally think BLUR looks horrible and most people in this forum would prefer sense. Am I right? does any one here like BLUR?
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ummm no, ha, but i hope this can be amazing, or themed, or both

Make it fast!

Another copy paste rom?
Well at least you don't ask for donations and this is a good skill to learn
Good luck mate
The GSM Hero is getting 2.1 Sense within the next couple of weeks. Why don't you save yourself some hassle and wait for that? That piece of hardware is a lot closer to the Dream

man legend roms are awesome love the friend stream out beats moto blur by a long shot. Make it fast i tried king's and vega and its gets slow after a couple hours of use even when i use the clean stale scene

i like blur and sense, legend is nice too. Problem with them is even the 1.5 are laggy. Why not work with vega and firerat? Rather than having 2/3 legend roms, just make 1 good rom.

i was able to extract the RUU into a rom.zip i just cant seem to get the boot.img to split. PM if you want it

i personally would like to see a good Pulse Rom ported but im probly the only one lol

709.2 doesn't mean it's newer than 707.2. I explained this last year, the first two numbers (1.23) reffer to the build version, the last two numbers (405.1) reffer to the vendor, in this case 405 being WWE, 707 being Taiwan (i think) and 709 being SE Asia WWE (again, I think).
Other than regional settings, both roms should be about the same.
I'd like to get myself a hold of the RUU king's using for his rom (unodexed).

jubeh said:
709.2 doesn't mean it's newer than 707.2. I explained this last year, the first two numbers (1.23) reffer to the build version, the last two numbers (405.1) reffer to the vendor, in this case 405 being WWE, 707 being Taiwan (i think) and 709 being SE Asia WWE (again, I think).
Other than regional settings, both roms should be about the same.
I'd like to get myself a hold of the RUU king's using for his rom (unodexed).
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he's not using an unodexed RUU. He's using apk's and frameworks that are already deodexed by Raiderx303 or something like that. Look in the hero forum. But it's good to know that the build numbers are consistent. Vega is using newer deodexed apps and frameworks, but his roms are slower...

xaueious said:
Another copy paste rom?
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It'll be 100% Odexed

Extract files from RUU Rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-267330.html
This might help

[Q] Android 2.4 ROM?

Is it possible to build a ROM off of an OS that doesn't officially exist?
Meaning, would I be able to build an Android 2.4 ROM, based off various SDKs?
And if so, how would I do this?
Thanks to all!

But Android 2.4 does exist, here's the proof: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrAjgYDx7yU

twixter said:
But Android 2.4 does exist, here's the proof: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrAjgYDx7yU
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1- Isn't that a developer version of 2.3? Unreleased?
2- I wanted to build it off of 2.3, 3.0, and 4.0, if that would even be possible, and then have it look unlike anything Android has released yet.
And 3- Thank you for that video. I didn't think it existed

arikaru0 said:
1- Isn't that a developer version of 2.3? Unreleased?
2- I wanted to build it off of 2.3, 3.0, and 4.0, if that would even be possible, and then have it look unlike anything Android has released yet.
And 3- Thank you for that video. I didn't think it existed
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2.x.whatever is just a software version. So if you are using the baseline code of 2.3, it is still a 2.3 gingerbread based ROM. And if it is a custom ROM, you can call it what ever you want. myrom 6.9..doesn't matter. The only way it is officially 2.4 is if you use the 2.4 source code as the baseline for your ROM. Implementing features from different software versions doesn't make it an official new version of android. When Cyanogen 7 came out based off of gingerbread, it had way more features than 2.3.3. But since it was based off of 2.3.3, the software version was still 2.3.3...Kind of a jumbled post, but hope it helped shed some light.

Just build it off of ics and put whatever features you want into it. I'm not really sure what you want to do. You could build it from froyo or something and make it look like something different.
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Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
Moving to Q&A

lowandbehold said:
2.x.whatever is just a software version. So if you are using the baseline code of 2.3, it is still a 2.3 gingerbread based ROM. And if it is a custom ROM, you can call it what ever you want. myrom 6.9..doesn't matter. The only way it is officially 2.4 is if you use the 2.4 source code as the baseline for your ROM. Implementing features from different software versions doesn't make it an official new version of android. When Cyanogen 7 came out based off of gingerbread, it had way more features than 2.3.3. But since it was based off of 2.3.3, the software version was still 2.3.3...Kind of a jumbled post, but hope it helped shed some light.
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But could you modify the settings .apk to make it say 2.4? If not, then can you mix and match apps from different version system dumps, or would you need to modify them?
I'm totally new to this, so I don't know how to do any of this
Thanks!

arikaru0 said:
But could you modify the settings .apk to make it say 2.4? If not, then can you mix and match apps from different version system dumps, or would you need to modify them?
I'm totally new to this, so I don't know how to do any of this
Thanks!
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But just modifying the ROM to say a different version doesn't mean anything. You can make your gingerbread based ROM say software version 1.5...but that doesn't make it a cupcake ROM...

No offense but you seem like you shouldn't be making roms anyway. Its very difficult.
Don't forget to hit thanks
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What news to day ?
What news to day ?

lowandbehold said:
But just modifying the ROM to say a different version doesn't mean anything. You can make your gingerbread based ROM say software version 1.5...but that doesn't make it a cupcake ROM...
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Well, I just want it to say 2.4
michaelnv710 said:
No offense but you seem like you shouldn't be making roms anyway. Its very difficult.
Don't forget to hit thanks
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None taken, I just want to figure out how so I can make my own rom, due to the fact that all the roms available for the DInc are either really bad, or boring (except MIUI)

I agree, and I guess if your up to it there are some tutorials on the forums or Google it. It would be cool to see something new like that.
Don't forget to hit thanks
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How are the roms for the droid incredible "boring"? Have you looked at what newtoroot, jermaine, mcd, incubus, ihftp, and joelz have been doing for the phone in terms of development? Look in the dev thread, tell me inc2 mctwist is "boring." And then tell me that "android 2.4 is cool"
-My life is a shooting range, people never change-

watt9493 said:
How are the roms for the droid incredible "boring"? Have you looked at what newtoroot, jermaine, mcd, incubus, ihftp, and joelz have been doing for the phone in terms of development? Look in the dev thread, tell me inc2 mctwist is "boring." And then tell me that "android 2.4 is cool"
-My life is a shooting range, people never change-
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I guess 'boring' was the wrong word. I've had the Incredible for a year, and I've gotten tired of Sense, I hate it now. I guess I should've specified farther- I hate Sense, and all the AOSP roms (other than MIUI) are boring.

[Q] what stable kernels are everyone using?

I'm wondering what kernels everyone is using that are stable?
Now that Undead is out of the biz, I'm wondering what kernels people recommend to replace the stock kernel for stable usage. I don't need overclocking, what I want is bone stable and return to the Google-stock contact manager. (Sense can't find business contacts, doesn't have favorites, etc)
I see this one:
BulletProof http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1360746
Is there anything else anyone recommends for stable use? I'm really hoping to only have to do this change once, and then stay on the new kernel until I replace the phone.

Bulletproof is using a stock gingerbread kernel at the moment.
The reason for this is that ROM was/is being developed for testing overclock limits with kernel edits, but to get a solid baseline it's a stock kernel at the moment.
Due to work constraints and now devoting a majority of my time to the S-OFF issue , I hadn't had time to circle back to pushing modified kernels.
In unraveling the S-OFF issue where we are down to now is having to modify the kernel to continue, so i've been working on kernels again recently. That's actually where my dev time is being spent now, so i'll probably post some over the next few weeks.
AgentCherryCola actually started putting together a list of kernels we have available a little bit ago, which you can find here:
HTC Doubleshot Kernels. February 21, 2012.
Might want to check it out. It does include the stock kernel UndeadK9 compiled from straight HTC kernel source with no modifications.
You can also get that kernel with an HTC signature from flashing the boot.img available in the stock PG59IMG.zip found here:
Doubleshot_TMOUS_1.28.531.9_Radio_10.48.9007.00U_1 0.12.9007.07_M2_release Thanks to football for posting it for us. This is the 2.6.35.10 kernel and is the same one you would compile if you downloaded the HTC source from the HTCDev website.
You can get the updated HTC kernel (version 2.6.35.13) from the leaked HTC OTA 1.55.531.3 software update I found recently, also uploaded by football found here:
http://www.filefactory.com/file/c0f....00_11.16.3504.20_2_release_227956_signed.zip
But it's actually a kernel.img file within the OTA PG59IMG.zip package, and won't flash right or work correctly unless you update the whole phone to this package.
NOTE: If you are S-ON when you update, you will not be able to get S-OFF at this time.
You can also obtain the 2.6.35.10 version of the kernel through any of the boot.img files found in my dev reference, here is the posting:
boot, hboot
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That should give you a good start in finding what you are looking for, any questions just ask!

Blue6IX said:
Bulletproof is using a stock gingerbread kernel at the moment.
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Stock Google or stock HTC Sense-enabled? From the posting, it seemed like it kept parts of Sense for the camera but removed other stuff?
Blue6IX said:
AgentCherryCola actually started putting together a list of kernels we have available a little bit ago, which you can find here:
HTC Doubleshot Kernels. February 21, 2012.
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1. It didn't list any other Undead or Bulletproof kernel
2. The only link to a sense-less kernel that was stable was for the Unity kernel, but there's no mention of the 4G Slide in the Unity downloads area.
Blue6IX said:
You can get the updated HTC kernel (version 2.6.35.13) from the leaked HTC OTA 1.55.531.3 software update I found recently, also uploaded by football found here:
http://www.filefactory.com/file/c0f....00_11.16.3504.20_2_release_227956_signed.zip
But it's actually a kernel.img file within the OTA PG59IMG.zip package, and won't flash right or work correctly unless you update the whole phone to this package.
NOTE: If you are S-ON when you update, you will not be able to get S-OFF at this time.
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I keep seeing comments about this. Is there a link with the whole story? I'm on bone-stock HTC with kernel version 2.6.35.10-g6dea02d from Jun 27, 2011. Does this mean that S-OFF isn't currently possible?
Thanks for your help.

jorhett said:
Stock Google or stock HTC Sense-enabled? From the posting, it seemed like it kept parts of Sense for the camera but removed other stuff?
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Stock HTC gingerbread kernel. You can't run the device without an HTC kernel or one built from HTC source, plain and simple.
The kernel is what contains all of the device-specific information on how the software can use the hardware present.
If you flashed a kernel from another device, the absolute best case scenario is nothing will work.
jorhett said:
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1. It didn't list any other Undead or Bulletproof kernel
2. The only link to a sense-less kernel that was stable was for the Unity kernel, but there's no mention of the 4G Slide in the Unity downloads area.
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Like much of XDA, it's a works in progress. I am sure Agent will update as time allows and options are available, but we're all volunteer in our spare time here so think of his thread as the foundation of our guide to available kernels. It's a good start.
I doubt very highly that any of Undead's other kernels would be present in a thread on XDA since he has been banned, so the only one acceptable to post here would be the stock one he compiled before that happened. Anything more would get the thread locked.
(let's not derail this thread on that subject, this thread can help people in the future if we don't get it locked over that.)
Bulletproof only has one kernel at this point that is publicly available.
jorhett said:
I keep seeing comments about this. Is there a link with the whole story? I'm on bone-stock HTC with kernel version 2.6.35.10-g6dea02d from Jun 27, 2011. Does this mean that S-OFF isn't currently possible?
Thanks for your help.
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The kernel itself really has nothing to do with S-ON or OFF.
The limiting factor here would be if you were on hboot 1.45.0013 and S-ON.
If that were the case there is currently no method to obtain S-OFF for the device (working on it). We do now have a fixed version to the software that should be on the device and if you flash that then you can unlock the hboot and do some things. See this thread if you need to unlock:
Root the latest OTA when the HTC Unlocker tool doesn't work
If you are S-ON and NOT on the 1.45.0013 hboot, you should obtain S-OFF before updating to the most recent OTA or you will not be able to S-OFF the device at this time.

[INFO][REF][TUE, 22/01/14] The G1 Oracle

The G1 Oracle​
Some of us decided to start a new thread like Royalknight6190's ROM Bible, because that hasn't been updated since Feb. 2011. However, as demkantor pointed out, the ROM Bible is pretty up to date up until Froyo, so there's not much point just reposting stuff. Therefore, although I have gone down as far as Eclair, I've only added new, relevant ROMs. Please PM me if I have missed out a ROM, this needs to be kept up-to-date
Credits: Don't know how we're gonna sort credits out, over the years there'll be tonnes of people we want to thank!
GUIDES:
NEW! [THURS 14/03/13]: [GUIDE] Rooting G1, ADB/Fastboot Setup, Partitioning, etc. by @FeintDoxx
How-to- Root, Hack, and Flashing your G1/Dream by @Koush
Or... Root a T-Mobile G1 (HTC DREAM) FOR THE COMPLETE BEGINNER!! by @junio07
How to install 1.33.0013d HBOOT and 2.22.28.25 via recovery by @TheShortybro
How to install recoveries... courtesy of @Amon_RA 's RA-dream-v1.7.0 thread (the same process applies for all recovery.img files - just scroll down a bit )
RECOVERIES:
NEW! [FRI 31/05/13]: ClockworkMod Recovery unofficial v5.0.2.8 (32B) and v6.0.1.2 (32A/B) compiled by @jianC
ClockworkMod Recovery Official v2.5.0.7 or ROM Manager on the Play Store
RA-dream-v1.7.0 by @Amon_RA
Amon_RA - Fmod by @frankdrey
KERNELS:
Ice Cream Sandwich
ezgb 1.5.3 (below) linaro-built kernel by @tvall via his United ICS thread
ezgb 2636 v1.5.3 (patched 1.5.2 for ICS by anddisa) compiled by @tvall via @banana4444's BananaSandwich thread (from @tvall 's United ICS thread, but I can't find where @tvall originally posted it )
Gingerbread
2636 ezGb kernels by @ezterry
2635 Chaos kernel by @cronnicorey via his CronMod-Dream thread
Froyo
ezGb kernels by @ezterry
ROMS:
Firstly, I think here is a good place to mention that there is, surprisingly, a form of non-android development for the G1 in the form of Firefox OS / Boot2Gecko, provided by Infinimit... for info, take a look at Project Lizard
Jelly Bean
Jelly Bean for HTC G1 - 4.1.1 Pre-Alpha by SoCal Devs
Ice Cream Sandwich
CyanogenMod 9
United ICS by @tvall
BananaSandwich v0.2 - first smooth & fast ICS ROM by @banana4444
Gingerbread
AOSP Based
NEW! [TUE 22/01/14]: Infinite Dreams by @ivn888 and @enricocid
EzGingerbread by @ezterry
COS-DS by @roalex
BeatMod GingerBread by @zFr3eak
AOSP GingerBread!! Dream v0.2 by @Dominating
CyanogenMod 7 Based
tvall's CM7 by @tvall
CronMod-Dream by @croniccorey
BananaBread v5.0 Final D/S Multilanguage by @banana4444
GinSense by @Rushness
BlueGinger by @blaster44
The Official "Unofficial" CM7 for DS by @dw9906
GingerbreadbyNomy by @Litesorrows
Ginger yoshi 1.5 (android 2.3.5) by @yohshua
MIUI
NEW! [TUE 22/01/14]: MIUI 2.4.20 by @Tquetski
HTX MIUI X by @Hintay
Froyo
AOSP Based
LMCFroyo by @ryree0
Eclair | Android v2.1
Sense 2.0
Liberty v0.51 by @Infinimint, @jianC, and the UNITED Dev team
Other
Servers
NEW! [TUE 22/01/14]: DreamServer (1.6 Donut minus Dalvik, UI, etc.) by @calamari

This is pretty nice. Although i'm a magic user, even magic users can benefit from that.

Reserved
Oops, too late, but....reserved.....

I once started a dedicated site for this, but that didn't go anywhere.
It was pretty nice because anyone could add to it.

Oops, didn't mean to thanks, but I'm sure you deserve it anyway frankdrey!
Yeah I wish we had gotten more done with that site, but o well, I guess we were both just too busy.
I was thinking maybe we could make some addition to the xda wiki? Don't know how well that would work but...
Anyway htcdreamon is going to speak with a mod and see if we can clean up this thread, add a spot or two for each of us in the begining and we each be resposible to add info, I'm sure if you want in to it could be done
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frankdrey said:
I once started a dedicated site for this, but that didn't go anywhere.
It was pretty nice because anyone could add to it.
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Link?

tass0s said:
This is pretty nice. Although i'm a magic user, even magic users can benefit from that.
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I agree, most of my searching for info and resourses for my 32b was done in the g1 section.
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HTCDreamOn said:
Link?
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Its gone unfortunately. It was a .tk domain that expired. And I havent signed into the x10hosting panel for the required amounts, so thats gone too.
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HTCDreamOn said:
Oops, too late, but....reserved.....
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Damn, im sorry, maybe we can find a mod that can delete that for us.

Don't worry about it
tass0s said:
Damn, im sorry, maybe we can find a mod that can delete that for us.
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Oh no, really, doesn't matter at all, I'm trying to get a mod to give demkantor a post under the OP anyway, so we can move stuff around then.
On a general note to everyone, do people want versions of Android in ascending or descending order? i.e. ascending (from cupcake through to Jelly bean) or descending (from Jelly bean down to cupcake)?

I say newest first, as people probably want to see what's newest right away. Also the older stuff is all linked in the rom bible
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demkantor said:
I say newest first, as people probably want to see what's newest right away. Also the older stuff is all linked in the rom bible
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What d'you mean by "older stuff"? Also, I'll thank you tomorrow because apparently I'm limited to 8 thanks per day.

Looks like I got some left!
the rom bible is realy complete up to early 2011 or so, since then most roms have been froyo and up, actualy the rom bible probably has everything ecliar and older so if we start with the latest people can have the all in one place for roms that have never been listed before. As we get time we can link it all!
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OK, stickied this one. Need to get one of the admins to resolve an issue with the second post, copied the first post like normal to make a second one but for some reason the system is swapping them. Edit: Just read the rest of the thread and realized you ended up wanting a different arrangement there, sorry. OK, let me see if I can fix that up and put something by demkantor in the right place. Actually demkantor mentioned a cleanup as well there, so maybe consider what you want and then self report the thread and let us know.

demkantor said:
I say newest first, as people probably want to see what's newest right away. Also the older stuff is all linked in the rom bible
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Definitely!
It's hard to find the newest roms, not that there are many anymore. They tend to get buried by posts to old roms.

Maybe starting up that site again would be a good idea?
It'll be a lot more flexible than this :|
If you think so, we have two choices on how to do it:
1. phpbb (authorship will get awkward, since original devs arent around to post their roms)
2. html (will be the most flexible, but also most difficult )
and *sigh*
3. Me and my friend (a php coder) code a web platform for this specific purpose. This is by far the best way, but will take the most time and effort.

I see what you mean, this is proving difficult to make more widely editable. Also sorry for the gaps, I haven't had much time to work on this.

Hey thanks bro for mentioning me!

To clear up some info, the ezgb linaro kernel is built by me for cm9, and is just the ezgb 1.5.3 ics kernel built with linaro. I had further plans for it, but I've had very little free time recently.
The 1.5.3 kernel is built by me from anddisa's git without code changes. His code was just ezterrys latest kernel plus some patches needed on ics. I just compiled and posted.
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RE: [INFO][REF][FRI, 31/05/13] The G1 Oracle
tvall said:
To clear up some info, the ezgb linaro kernel is built by me for cm9, and is just the ezgb 1.5.3 ics kernel built with linaro. I had further plans for it, but I've had very little free time recently.
The 1.5.3 kernel is built by me from anddisa's git without code changes. His code was just ezterrys latest kernel plus some patches needed on ics. I just compiled and posted.
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Ahh thanks for info. The ezgb linaro doesn't boot for me by the way, so I always have to use the normal ezgb 1.5.3 for ICS, which works fine. 2078 radio.
EDIT: Did you delete the post where you had the download link for ezgblinaro? I couldn't find it anywhere apart from Banana4444's thread

Couple of General Questions about ROMS

Okay last couple of questions, than I need a break :fingers-crossed:
1-Once I "Flash" a ROM, do I need to keep the .ZIP file on my phone assuming I have backed up my current ROM. They don't take up a ton of room but I don't like keeping a ton of stuff on my phone. It is nice to have it case I don't have the backup.
2-There are hundreds of different ROMS out there.....
I currently have ViperXL which seems awesome....
Some ROMS seem really stripped down.....
IS that what it comes down to in ROMS....Asthetics? The look and feel?
3-Now that I have a rooted phone....that I can update constantly (Jellybean etc) how far will this current model go (2 more major updates....Keylime etc)
Thanks for all of the help along the way!!!

Once you flash you can delete the zip
Everyone has their personal opinions about Rom you could love viper but someone could not like it and prefer hatka/clean Rom or cm
If we don't get the key lime pie kernel for the one xl it'd be heard porting HTC roms over due to lack of kernel but aosp will probably do well... We can portsense 5 here

a box of kittens said:
Once you flash you can delete the zip
If we don't get the key lime pie kernel for the one xl it'd be heard porting HTC roms over due to lack of kernel but aosp will probably do well... We can portsense 5 here
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Hmmm.Newbie here!!!
Does that mean there will be an easy fix for Key Lime Pie? A ROM will most likely be developed?
I hear a lot of talk about Kernels but that seems too much for me to grasp....:laugh:
I was under the impression that once I rooted my phone, I could always flash a ROM to keep it current with the most up to date version of Android.
Is that not the case?

demert858 said:
Hmmm.Newbie here!!!
Does that mean there will be an easy fix for Key Lime Pie? A ROM will most likely be developed?
I hear a lot of talk about Kernels but that seems too much for me to grasp....:laugh:
I was under the impression that once I rooted my phone, I could always flash a ROM to keep it current with the most up to date version of Android.
Is that not the case?
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Without kernel source that's a bit hard to do sometimes and HTC doesn't have the best reputation

a box of kittens said:
Once you flash you can delete the zip
Everyone has their personal opinions about Rom you could love viper but someone could not like it and prefer hatka/clean Rom or cm
If we don't get the key lime pie kernel for the one xl it'd be heard porting HTC roms over due to lack of kernel but aosp will probably do well... We can portsense 5 here
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a box of kittens said:
Without kernel source that's a bit hard to do sometimes and HTC doesn't have the best reputation
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So HTC will need to release the "Kernel" (Some Source Code) I assume.....
From there, People will Develop ROMS based on that.......?
Without that is this phone is dead in the water as far as updates are concerned?

Just think of this...the kernel contains all the proper WiFi libs and camera libs and a lot of other things...without the proper kernel wed have to hack things which can take a while and produce worse results...the Rom is not based off kernel it's based off the Rom... Than they build from their if it's aosp they build from source and port over if it's sense they do the base and build off that

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Just think of this...the kernel contains all the proper WiFi libs and camera libs and a lot of other things...without the proper kernel wed have to hack things which can take a while and produce worse results...the Rom is not based off kernel it's based off the Rom... Than they build from their if it's aosp they build from source and port over if it's sense they do the base and build off that
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Got it.....
but what is Aosp??
Hopefully the fine folks on this forum will work their magic for complete noobs like me....I would hate to not keep up with the times :fingers-crossed:
It was a headache for me just to get it rooted and ViperXL installed =)

We will get aosp keylime roms for sure. We have an awesome dev community. We probably won't get a keylime sense Rom because HTC most likely won't develop one for this phone. But aosp (android open source project) which is the os written by Google for their nexus devices that the oems take and make their own version (sense, touchwiz, etc) should always get updated
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area51avenger said:
We will get aosp keylime roms for sure. We have an awesome dev community. We probably won't get a keylime sense Rom because HTC most likely won't develop one for this phone. But aosp (android open source project) which is the os written by Google for their nexus devices that the oems take and make their own version (sense, touchwiz, etc) should always get updated
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That's awesome news....
I'm not a fan of HTC Sense.....
I opted out of it with the VIPERXL Rom....
Glad to hear my HTC One X will stay current for some time.....
I hate buying a new phone every other year to stay current with Software etc!!!

My HTC desire which the last official Rom was gingerbread, is running jb 4.2.2 dont worry xda makes phones future proof
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1) You can just delete it. I usually save on my computer for a while, just in case I want to move it back on the phone to re-flash, in emergencies, etc. I usually try to have either (but not both) a nandroid or the ROM zip on the phone, just in case.
2) The differences are aesthetics, features, performance. The thread for each specific ROM will usually have a good description of the features. But you may need to learn some more of the lingo, before you really understand what they are talking about. Start looking through the threads, and you will start to figure out what the differences are, which ones you may like, what others like, etc. Then just choose a few, and flash away.
3) Completely depends on how long the device keeps developer interest, and whether HTC actively supports the device and (as mentioned) releases kernel source for the device for the given Android build.
For example, if HTC decides not to release KLP for the device, and doesn't release kernel source, it makes it really difficult for devs to make custom ROMs with all the hardware components working properly (cameras, Bluetooth, etc.). But its not impossible, and if some devs are still inspired, they may try to make things work as much as they have time for.