I was finally able to root my Desire HD yesterday and are now running LeeDroid on it.
The only thing I can't get to work is Google Navigation started from within HTC:s Car Panel. It loads up just fine but when it tries to get the route information it says getting route information (Hämtar vägbeskrivning in Swedish) then after a while a voice says connection lost and it just keeps trying to get route information.
Anyone got a fix for this, I would love to use the Car panel together with google navigation since it's more accurate then the built in one. I know I can install a different car dock/home but I really like HTC:s one.
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I know there are a few Navigon threads but they are for other phones than the Nexus and quite old. The Navigon site says there is a try and buy, but it doesn't show on the market. Not sure if it's because I am rooted. Whatever, I have bought the app anyway because I have had good experiences with the Navigon units here in the states in the past.
So far the app has installed and when running it for the first time, Navigon says it will download about 2gb's of data (thank god I just bought a 16gb microSD lol). Also it is recommended that the phone be in a charger and connected to a wlan so a constant connection can be held to download such a large file. Also danger of being throttled lol by tmo lol...but thats another thread altogether.
So far so good downloading but it's 15% done with 36 min to go on the download. Thank goodness my boss just installed a wireless router in the office!
I'll update with any new news on the product once downloaded.
Went home for lunch and used Navigon for the first time. Out of the box, the voice prompts are WAY to low. I could hardly hear anything. I maxed out the app volume and no change. I then went to the sound settings and maxed out everything, prior, I had my notifications tone set pretty low, but once I maxed the notification sound, the Navigon came to life!! Kinda silly IMO. Not media but notification volume!?
Next I figured I turn on my bluetooth and connect to my blueant S4. I have the 1.5 software (downloading the 1.6 update now). And the Navigon does route to the S4 but also the handset itself! I'll update if the blueant update fixes that or not.
Now using it as a plain jane navigator, I think is on par with the Navigon products I have used in the past. It works pretty well, but the newer roads have not been updated as of yet, but google maps have the updated/newer roads. I am in San Antonio, about a half hour from the downtown area so there is a lot of new roads being built.
Conclusion:
The short and dirty of it is that the Navigon is pretty steep in price (~$39.98USD) for the first two weeks and then increases in price to a whopping (~$59.98USD). Is it worth it? I'd say try co-pilot first because 1. it's cheaper even with the traffic add-on and 2. You can always try Navigon after you decide if co-pilot doesn't jive with what you want to do.
The only other plus is that if you cannot get a cell signal to run the navigation (a la google nav), you can use the downloaded 2gb file as a guide and the app will reconnect once it receives a signal.
how does it handle music apps. I mean if you have music playing on, does it pause the music (or reduce music volume) during voice guidance?
arkavat said:
how does it handle music apps. I mean if you have music playing on, does it pause the music (or reduce music volume) during voice guidance?
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Haven't tested that part out yet. Will report back once I do. Thanks for reminding me, even though I do not really use the music player in the car all that much.
Music a no-go...
...when used with Navigon. Both are on at the same time and no volume lowering is done on the music side when the prompts are spoken.
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Next I figured I turn on my bluetooth and connect to my blueant S4. I have the 1.5 software (downloading the 1.6 update now). And the Navigon does route to the S4 but also the handset itself! I'll update if the blueant update fixes that or not.
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Hi, I was wondering if you got a fix for this or not? I'm getting the same problem with my Desire HD - I'm not sure if the problem is the phone, the S4, or Navigon. The S4 came with 1.6 firmware so there's nothing to upgrade to. I've emailed both Blueant and Navigon support, but my 24 hour trial period is up, so I've uninstalled for now.
Hope you can help! Thanks.
preacher65 said:
Hi, I was wondering if you got a fix for this or not? I'm getting the same problem with my Desire HD - I'm not sure if the problem is the phone, the S4, or Navigon. The S4 came with 1.6 firmware so there's nothing to upgrade to. I've emailed both Blueant and Navigon support, but my 24 hour trial period is up, so I've uninstalled for now.
Hope you can help! Thanks.
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No same issue when updated to 1.6 on the blueant. Currently Navigon is my backup navi.
Thanks. I emailed Navigon, who said they don't support A "Bluetooth audio only" option, but CoPilot handles the audio perfectly. Unfortunately it doesn't seem nearly as good at finding routes.
Do you know if this is this specific to the S4?
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Thanks. I emailed Navigon, who said they don't support A "Bluetooth audio only" option, but CoPilot handles the audio perfectly. Unfortunately it doesn't seem nearly as good at finding routes.
Do you know if this is this specific to the S4?
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Not 100% but I found that the Navigon uses the same tones from the notification settings. Meaning one needs to increase the volume on the notification settings to hear the voice prompts rather than media, which I think would best fit. If they did that, the navigon software may work via bt audio, but I am no coder, but just speculating.
I am now using this as my backup navi because in some areas in TX, there are very spotty territories for 3g even edge coverage for tmobile usa, so having this is a plus in my opinion, but was it worth the hefty pricetag? I have to say no if you are looking for this as a primary navi software. I would rather pay some additional cash for a dedicated gps unit.
BUT, using this had me thinking back to my Sony Ericsson days where I used a gps puck to use as a gps navi. amAzegps.com First off its friggin free lol, worldwide coverage, multilanguage support and pretty accurate for a free gps. I haven't used this in a few years but I am glad it is still around. It is a nice proggy. I would suggest all who cannot use google or want to try an alternate navi program.
Thanks, that's interesting. I noticed that CoPilot's changelog specifically listed fixes for BT handsfree, so I guess they are more interested in compatibility with different BT devices. I can understand it's hard for Navigon to ensure compatibility with every bit of hardware, but this particular problem does seem to be due the way they stream the sound to the BT device, so must be fixable.
I'm using CoPilot now, and it works well enough, but if I choose to go a different route to the one suggested, rather than calculating a new route, it keeps telling me to do a U-turn around and go back. Still, I don't use the satnav every day, so it's probably good enough for what I need.
Just got an update on the Navigon. Not sure what the update was. No changelog I can find and I could not find it in the market anymore for some reason.
On vacation right now attending my brothers wedding out of state. So I'll report back if there were any changes.
Anyone else?
Unfortunately I gave up and switched to CoPilot, but I did learn here that the CarUI app on the market has a fix for the bluetooth issue, if you start MobileNavigator from CarUI.
Hi all,
I just bought the Kenwood KDC-BT50U for my car. I plan to use it with my HTC Desire via Bluetooth, mainly to play my mp3s. It paired and plays mp3s just fine, but it does not show the track names on the device and I cant skip tracks. It also does not sync my contact names from the phonebook, except for the call history.
Did anyone get it to work, and if yes with which firmware? the kenwood website sucks and they do not list the htc desire on their firmware update pages..so I have no idea which one to get...any help would be great!
I've got a BT60U and a Desire and it works all fine - it didnt in the beginning though.
My problems were that there was no adressbook sync and that I got random disconnects while driving.
But at some point it just started working. I remember that it was around when I started rooting (the first hacked 2.2 on the Desire) and then later the first AOSP roms. Dont know what made the deal for me but might be a hint.
At some point I also did a complete reset of the headunit.
I know it is a bit vague but I'm running fine with the BT60U (which got the same BT kit as yours) and my rooted Desire running DeFrost 6.1 (but also with OpenDesire and MIUI, don't know about Sense Roms though)
EDIT: forgot to mention: It is normal that the head unit doesn't show track titles etc but the forward/play/pause keys should be working...
What you can try is that you delete your phone from the BT50U's Bluetooth menu (at least mine got an option saying 'Delete BT Device') and deleting your Kenwood on your phone to start it from scratch again.
Hi.
Which number firmware of bluetooth unit is it?
I had the V 3.11.0 but the last is the V 3.12.0: this add the only forward/play/pause keys but doesn't show the track titles (in fact the A2DP protocol doesn't support this).
To upgrade it: manual, software, firmware (or go here and select "HTC Tattoo").
It's very simple to upgrade but, if you can wait, during this week I'm uploading a video about it: I did it last weekend.
Unfortunately, this last firmware doesn't resolve any problems like doesn't sync contact names from the phonebook neither the call history.
Moreover I can't use the "red button" because it kills the app "phone" so I have to reboot or enter again my PIN code.
I have a Wildfire with Froyo 2.2.1 stock.
Bye.
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Ps.: my unit has some problems so I have to bring it at assistance.
It's normal that there is always the "FAV" icon at top right of the display?
Thank you.
The protocol for track names is AVCRP rather than A2DP, but unfortunately the result is the same, the bluetooth stack in Android does not appear to be 1.4, rather 1.3 which doesn't have the feature.
Do you have an import via bluetooth option on your Kenwood. At first my JVC wouldn't sync and I just had to export the cantact list and then use a bluetooth transfer app to transmit it across manually. One day it just started working as mentioned above.
@400ixl: there is an automatic sync of all datas every time that the phone connects to the Kenwood radio but with Android it doesn't work, unfortunately.
I hope there will be an another Bluetooth firmware upgrade.
Thank you.
Bye.
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I uploaded a short video about the upgrade.
If you would like see it, I'll write the link.
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thanks very much
Video.
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I use car panel for navigation occasionally. Lately it just spins waiting for location. It's searching right now and doesn't look like it will work again. Tried it earlier today never did connect.
I don't take phone updates. Have 2.2 rooted stock roms and kernel but it's been fine till lately. Little slow connectiong but not like now.
Any ideas?
Try updating Profile and PRL, then reboot. Also, you might want to try turning on WiFi. It helps GPS lock quicker.
I had the exact same problem with 2.3.3 OTA, and so does the only other person I know with a Shift. It seems to be a consistent problem.
I can give you two solutions.
a. Use Telenav instead of Google Nav. I've never experienced any problems with Telenav, and it comes pre-installed on every Sprint smart phone and feature phone so I was already familiar with it. (Non-android phones it's called "Sprint Navigation Powered by Telenav")
b. Root, install Clockwork Mod, then install another ROM. Google Nav is actually a great program, and I like it better than Telenav, but it just doesn't work well on the factory ROM for whatever reason. I installed CM7-nightly build 179 last night, and Google Nav now works like a dream. (You have to do some digging and install all the google apps seperately) As an added bonus, when you install the full suit of google apps available, you get a much better car panel than the SenseUI car panel. You can set it to come on automatically when your phone connects to the BT in your car, and you can customize the launchers instead of being stuck with the layout HTC gives you.
Hi guys,
SInce updating my stock HTC One S to Android 4.1.1 and HTC 4+, I cannot get Navigation to work properly. It force closes every 10 or so seconds.
The GPS is clearly working as it does find the route immediately, and starts to navigate - but then closes!
I rely heavily on Google Nav and seeing as I just got a new refurbished phone from my network, I don't want to have to put this one in for repair as well and be phonelesss for another week +...
Is this a known problem?
Thanks as always,
TD
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Hi guys,
SInce updating my stock HTC One S to Android 4.1.1 and HTC 4+, I cannot get Navigation to work properly. It force closes every 10 or so seconds.
The GPS is clearly working as it does find the route immediately, and starts to navigate - but then closes!
I rely heavily on Google Nav and seeing as I just got a new refurbished phone from my network, I don't want to have to put this one in for repair as well and be phonelesss for another week +...
Is this a known problem?
Thanks as always,
TD
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Have you tried clearing the app data and cache? Are you rooted? Sometimes I find a quick re-install does the trick. I'm guessing you have tried all of those, but thought I would through them out there.
Also, have you tried a different app. like Waze?
you're not alone
this is a known problem, see below
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2067128&highlight=gps
http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/maps/1T_mDNfU8Z0
yep, it's known problem. Been using Viper 2.2.0 and nav fc in 3d mode. I put it in 2d mode as soon as I start the nav or turn screen off and use voice guidance only.
Im having a hard time finding help with this so any info is appreciated
I have an Alpine 147bt deck that im using to stream Pandora and am currently running CM10.1.1 on my gs3. Right now it is a PAIN to get it to sync. It only syncs after a reboot of the phone, and if i turn the car off to get out and run an errand, when i get back in i have to again, it will play one track, then lock up, and require another reboot.
Like i said, im currently on CM10.1.1 but ive had this issue with numerous roms, both TW and AOSP. Any ideas for fixes?
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Im having a hard time finding help with this so any info is appreciated
I have an Alpine 147bt deck that im using to stream Pandora and am currently running CM10.1.1 on my gs3. Right now it is a PAIN to get it to sync. It only syncs after a reboot of the phone, and if i turn the car off to get out and run an errand, when i get back in i have to again, it will play one track, then lock up, and require another reboot.
Like i said, im currently on CM10.1.1 but ive had this issue with numerous roms, both TW and AOSP. Any ideas for fixes?
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I have a similar problem with my SG3, Alpine138BT and Pandora. I'm running CleanRom 7 but it also did this when stock. When connecting the HU either says connecting (but doesn't) or says no unit. I have to 1st get it to connect to the Bluetooth setting on my HU then switch the HU to Pandora then start and stop Pandora on my phone until it syncs. Once sync'd it plays correctly. Like you if I turn the car off I have to start the whole process all over again.
There is a Bluetooth firmware update for your HU but it does not specifically list your issue. I'd flash it anyway maybe it will fix the problem. I found one for my HU as well.
I have not meet my 10 posts here so I cannot enter the link....lookup your HU on the Alpine-USA website scroll to the bottom of your HU information page and there is a Software Update link.
kstack34 said:
Im having a hard time finding help with this so any info is appreciated
I have an Alpine 147bt deck that im using to stream Pandora and am currently running CM10.1.1 on my gs3. Right now it is a PAIN to get it to sync. It only syncs after a reboot of the phone, and if i turn the car off to get out and run an errand, when i get back in i have to again, it will play one track, then lock up, and require another reboot.
Like i said, im currently on CM10.1.1 but ive had this issue with numerous roms, both TW and AOSP. Any ideas for fixes?
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I'm having this same exact issue with my 149bt deck from Alpine. It's great when it works but a pain in the ass when it doesn't. Sometimes the thing you describe to fix it doesn't even work as well.
This issue occurs even with the stock Vanilla Android ROM on my wifes phone. We both have Galaxy Nexus phones (I'm running CM 10.1.1)