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I really have no idea why a lot of you guys are still on stock?
This is my very first android, and i took 2 hours reading and another hour asking questions. and another hour rooting my phone.
Just root your damn phone.
I have 3 kids. Taking 3 hours out of my day to root my phone is not an option.
I did make time to mess with my htc incredible only because is was a one click trick.
30 minutes a day.. its worth it.
your question should have been "why do you stay unrooted".. THAT it understandable.
Stock ROM is pretty good though.
Cute dog. is there a way to edit topics?
I stayed unrooted for about three weeks. It took me that long to work up the nerve to root. After I'd read the procedure through a few times, asked a few questions, and, most importantly, satisfied myself that it was entirely reversible, I went for it.
I'm still stock because flashing roms and losing some of my settings got old on my Nexus One. I simply tired of flashing kernels, radios, roms, themes and never really being any happier than I was to start with. Been there done that. I did the whole "I got my first android and want to be like the cool kids and root". I've been using Android and flashing roms for years.
I was always tweaking and I would improve one thing, and another thing would be degraded or broken.I would get better battery life but have to deal with reboots. I would get great GPS but then wifi would break, or the device would get hot...or it would be stable and basically like it was before I ever even rooted in the first place.
CM7 was the best I used(most stable anyway), but even then I got really bored. I tried some Sense roms and really liked them but they were all buggy as hell as well. So I decided to get a Sense device. IF I hated Sense, I would certainly root but then again if I hated sense I wouldn't have bought the Tbolt.
So far I have not had one reboot, not one single issue except that GPS can be slow once in awhile, but then I see folks with rooted devices, flashed kernels and radios complaining of the same thing. Today I went all over town and GPS worked great...it's a random thing.
When I see a rom I HAVE TO HAVE, I'll root and flash it, but so far I have not seen anything that makes me want give up my perfectly working device/os.
With the Nexus One I found the Flavored Ice themes and fell in love with Dark Cherry. I rooted just so I could have that theme. Unfortunately theming is difficult for Sense so there are not really many themes to lure me in.
Some things I DO miss from being rooted, Ad-Free, SetCPU(but again usually ahve to live with some reboots which I hate), being able to flash some cool things like the Hulu apk. no getting around it there are things I miss from being rooted.
However, I have a rooted Moto Zoom and I use that now more than my TBolt. My TBolt has become more like a phone again and I just want it stable for phones calls and navigation.
As a matter of fact, I have rejected Verizon's update because for ONCE I have a device that I am perfectly happy with as is.
If I were going to root it would be to flash this rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1013577
and then install ad-free and a few other apps I miss. As it stands I can afford to pay for tethering so I don't even have any motivation to root for free tethering.
I know, what about bloat? Well I have over a hundred apps installed and I still have 1.97 GB of space left. I came from Nexus One where with zero apps installed I had 120MB of free app space! The apps simply don't bother me being there om my Tbolt. Space isn't an issue for me.
To wrap it up, my battery life is fine, my phone call quality is superior to anything I've ever had. I love the sense UI and my device/os is stable as hell.
I am happy.
PS: FWIW, I did root my TBolt using the one click method at android central just to make sure it would work with the USB port on my computer, I then promptly unrooted it. I can re-root anytime I want. No hurry and I may very well never re-root, especially given that I will be again upgrading my phone again as soon as the next best thing is released(that is not the Charge).
Old MuckenMire said:
I'm still stock because flashing roms and losing some of my settings got old on my Nexus One. I simply tired of flashing kernels, radios, roms, themes and never really being any happier than I was to start with. Been there done that. I did the whole "I got my first android and want to be like the cool kids and root". I've been using Android and flashing roms for years.
I was always tweaking and I would improve one thing, and another thing would be degraded or broken.I would get better battery life but have to deal with reboots. I would get great GPS but then wifi would break, or the device would get hot...or it would be stable and basically like it was before I ever even rooted in the first place.
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While I am rooted, I know exactly what you mean. I am on Das BAMF 1.6.2 and am planning to stay put for awhile. Sometimes I fail to use the best features of my phone because I've recently flashed and don't want to input my user name and PW into Pandora while I am driving down the freeway.
Once we have RIL and are officially supported by CM7 I will get back into the flashing game. I am not a big fan of Sense and have done my best to avoid it on my device using LP, Contapps, Handcent
Guysm
If you flash new roms every day, how do you rebuild your desktops, reinstall apps, etc? You do this procedure every day????
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If you flash new roms every day, how do you rebuild your desktops, reinstall apps, etc? You do this procedure every day????
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Appbrain reinstalls all your apps. Resetting icons/widgets takes 2 mins, tops
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Guysm
If you flash new roms every day, how do you rebuild your desktops, reinstall apps, etc? You do this procedure every day????
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I don't think a lot of people flash new roms everyday.
Usually if you are updating a Rom, like from Das bamf 162 to 163, you don't need to wipe. apps, texts, layout, and what not stay the same.
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MoreGone said:
While I am rooted, I know exactly what you mean. I am on Das BAMF 1.6.2 and am planning to stay put for awhile. Sometimes I fail to use the best features of my phone because I've recently flashed and don't want to input my user name and PW into Pandora while I am driving down the freeway.
Once we have RIL and are officially supported by CM7 I will get back into the flashing game. I am not a big fan of Sense and have done my best to avoid it on my device using LP, Contapps, Handcent
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I was the same way with Slacker over the past year. especially because I was rooted and used A2SD, it would always log me out even if I hadn't recently flashed. Slacker just doesn't seem to like being on the SD card and hold the password at the same time. At the end of the day I'm not in any way against rooting and I'm glad it's there as an option for when I get bored. I always do get bored, either with stock or flashing roms...or just with any given device itself.
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I don't think a lot of people flash new roms everyday.
Usually if you are updating a Rom, like from Das bamf 162 to 163, you don't need to wipe. apps, texts, layout, and what not stay the same.
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This is correct. The issue is not UPDATING roms...you get to keep all your settings that way. The issue is having to wipe before flashing a new rom. Me personally, it takes me a whole hell of a lot longer than two minutes to get everything back the way I want it. Downloading all my apps is not the issue. It's getting all of the settings for over a hundred apps back the way I want. Just as an example. Every website I visit I log into with a password. I use Skyfire, stock, Dolphin HD. When I wipe I have to go back and re-log into every damn website I visit again...and I have to do it every time I want to try a new rom...which ends up being often because once you flash one, it leads to another and another, always searching for that perfect rom. I often did flash at least every other day. Most developers would update their rom, fixing or adding something and the temptation was too strong not to test drive it again. But liek I said it makes the device never feel complete because I never settled on anything long term.
I will say this tho, it was rooting and flashing that made me realize how much I enjoyed Sense UI. I tried EVERY rom there was for the N1 and never enjoyed anything the way I did Sense(although I did love ROD's MIUI MoD rom for N1+ LauncherPro Plus...it was quick as hell and had beautiful transitions, not as stable as CM7 tho) and thru root and flashing you can try different UI's and find the one that is right for you. So rooting and flashing is definitely a great thing and like I said I'm glad it's an option I have to admit I miss that little high you get while waiting for a new rom to flash. Wondering if you've soft bricked, and the anticipation of seeing all the goodies new roms contain. The feeling of having total control over your device is nice too.
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Appbrain reinstalls all your apps. Resetting icons/widgets takes 2 mins, tops
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Doesn't TiBackup reinstall your apps just as well? I don't use Appbrain so I don't know the benefit.
KarukTribe said:
I have 3 kids. Taking 3 hours out of my day to root my phone is not an option.
I did make time to mess with my htc incredible only because is was a one click trick.
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I have four kids and a large closet. Adapt and overcome.
major_works said:
I stayed unrooted for about three weeks. It took me that long to work up the nerve to root. After I'd read the procedure through a few times, asked a few questions, and, most importantly, satisfied myself that it was entirely reversible, I went for it.
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+1 to this, exactly what I though too.
I bricked my Droid X a couple of times, and was able to get it back every time, but it taught me to be careful.
I flash a new Rom daily and set up a whole new theme every time I always got a new phone that way lol
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major_works said:
I stayed unrooted for about three weeks. It took me that long to work up the nerve to root. After I'd read the procedure through a few times, asked a few questions, and, most importantly, satisfied myself that it was entirely reversible, I went for it.
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I did this too. I plugged my phone into the USB and it took me another hour of rereading the guide before I finally got the nerve to start
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I'm sure I'll root eventually, I'm just kinda in the same boat as MuckenMire, tired on the endless rom shuffle. The TBolt is my first Android, but I'm coming from a number of WinMo 6.x devices. As some of you probably know from experience you pretty much had to flash a custom rom to make many of those phones usable. The Tbolt is a much better user experience stock than any of my old WinMo devices were with custom roms. Right now the bloatware would be the only reason I would bother with root. This phone is fast, stable and highly customizable stock. Right now I just don't see a compelling reason to root it.
That being said, first time I need to teather and VZW wants to charge me, I will probably root. I don't do it often enough to justify paying extra for it.
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I love all these people who claim they are so busy, really come on, you obviously have time if you browse the XDA forums and Im sure you spend a lot of time on facebook.
Get over yourself.
Sorry for this Trollin, It just irritates me.
mitchell4500 said:
I love all these people who claim they are so busy, really come on, you obviously have time if you browse the XDA forums and Im sure you spend a lot of time on facebook.
Get over yourself.
Sorry for this Trollin, It just irritates me.
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I'm over myself. I have time, but I just don't want to root. I'm happy with what I have. None of the roms look that great to me, so why bother? Why do some of you feel like everyone has to root. Like we're idiots cause we're running stock. Why do you really care what others are doing?
I will be the first to admit that the idea of flashing roms was ridiculous and not my thing, but I have to love it. I don't necessarily need to experiment with different kinds, but I like having options. And of course it is very clear that the G2X is a bust for tmo, so I don't expect too much from them.
Thaynjs to all the devs that work hard to keep us happy.
Im done. No more posts from me...
LOL I'm a crack flasha too. I didn't think this phone was THAT big a failure for T-Mobile though.
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I have not tried any other Roms on this phone. But I know what you mean. When I had my G1, I was always looking foward to The nightlys of My Roms.
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thats the one thing i miss about htc phones is the fact that i can switch between sense roms then try aosp for a while
I never wanted to try a sense rom. The Widgets are pretty but it reminds me of my Windows Mobile days... even then I built roms without sense.
Once you try MIUI, sense is a laugh.
I think I've converted over to MIUI full time. Updates aren't as frequent to cut back on my daily urge and all the little tweaks really make the phone a joy to use. CM7 is great too but MIUI is like a polished CM7.
Nightlies are fun for a while but with the G2x, there is rampant APN and GPS issues that rear up occasionally that have bitten me several times. Nothing like being in a strange city with barely any service and your GPS is boinked.
I'll probably flip back and forth once they settle down with the GB source but reading the nightly thread it seems there are some big problems in the past few releases that I'm in no hurry to rush into.
I think I'm enjoying MIUI too much.
LG G2x - 2.3.5 MIUI Love
Asus TF - Custom 3.2
player911 said:
I never wanted to try a sense rom. The Widgets are pretty but it reminds me of my Windows Mobile days... even then I built roms without sense.
Once you try MIUI, sense is a laugh.
I think I've converted over to MIUI full time. Updates aren't as frequent to cut back on my daily urge and all the little tweaks really make the phone a joy to use. CM7 is great too but MIUI is like a polished CM7.
Nightlies are fun for a while but with the G2x, there is rampant APN and GPS issues that rear up occasionally that have bitten me several times. Nothing like being in a strange city with barely any service and your GPS is boinked.
I'll probably flip back and forth once they settle down with the GB source but reading the nightly thread it seems there are some big problems in the past few releases that I'm in no hurry to rush into.
I think I'm enjoying MIUI too much.
LG G2x - 2.3.5 MIUI Love
Asus TF - Custom 3.2
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IMO you have to like the iPhone UI to like miui. Its like the android iPhone knockoff.
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I know what you mean, but doesn't it get annoying to restore all the apps and set up ALL THE SETTINGS again, in every single app? I love android for its customization but settings are a pain in my asholes there are too many of them I get lost lol anyone know what I mean?
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noobletsausecakebbq said:
I know what you mean, but doesn't it get annoying to restore all the apps and set up ALL THE SETTINGS again, in every single app? I love android for its customization but settings are a pain in my asholes there are too many of them I get lost lol anyone know what I mean?
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Use titanium backup and when you restore, restore app AND data. Boom! You are good to go.
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Look like 124 is out. I wonder if the 4G/H icon issues is phone dependent or nightly build.
stockrom said:
Look like 124 is out. I wonder if the 4G/H icon issues is phone dependent or nightly build.
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Nothing new for the g2x in the new build
I've been rocking the nightly's since 55 and haven't had any trouble with any of them. GPS and both cameras have worked for me the whole time. Got 124 earlier today.
I third the MIUI is an iPhone rom...if you like it you'll probably love an iPhone...haha
CM7 has it on lock. I have bluez IME and can connect a wiimote to my phone and map all the wiimote keys to do any ascii I want. From there I can play pretty much any emulator with the wiimote and hdmi out to a projector or tv.
I have netflix it runs fast as hell and the battery lasts 3-4 days if I'm only using it for phone calls. Lasts about 6 hours if I'm gaming or watching movies.
Only complaint is they didn't steal the HDMI settings from the stock rom yet, so it will only auto out hdmi to 1080p tv's. So if you only have a 720p tv, probably not for you, but the perks might still make it worth it.
Oh yah, and if your worried about your settings. Don't wipe anything when you update your nightly. Download however you do, if you use rom manager, just say no when it asks to install, then shut down, load your recovery, flash the new nightly right over your old one. All setting remain the same. (Keep a good nandroid backup at all times and every once in a while restore your backup and flash new nightly over that for good measure)
Just install a custom launcher. I can't stand the iPhone style either so I run adw launcher.
Miui is the most customizable room out there by FAR.
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I came from a mytouch 4g where yu can expect some kind of new ROM or update just about everyday or every other day Idk its just kind of boring in this forum I guess...
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lol the nexus line gets updated either when it needs bug fixes or when google changes the OS, so by your definition you need a phone that needs to be fixed constantly but this phone that works you think is a bad choice.......
the absolute right choice in my opinion. I love this phone, best phone i have ever owned.
I've had this phone for two weeks and I love it. Couldn't have made a better choice. And there are new roms to flash every couple of days you just have to look.
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BrianDigital said:
lol the nexus line gets updated either when it needs bug fixes or when google changes the OS, so by your definition you need a phone that needs to be fixed constantly but this phone that works you think is a bad choice.......
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Exactly! Would you rather wait to get an OS upgrade to a OS version that's already a year old; or, be on the latest with no updates coming?
You want new and exciting things on your phone. Root and start flashing some custom things. That'll keep you occupied. There are always new things coming out in the CM7 nightlies.
I just got my nexus a week ago & I'm happy all you really need is CM7 & MIUI with those 2 roms you can change themes like a super model changes clothes!!! Lol
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It's a pure Google phone so yes, you don't have 5,342 different ROMs trying to create a "pure" Android experience.
Nexus has all you need.
Pure Android by default and it's awesome even out of the box
CM7 Official builds
CM7 Kang Builds
MIUI Official builds
Anything else is pure bonus.
I came from a Evo 4G, thought it would be a slight downgrade, I was wrong, I love My Nexus.
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I came from a Evo 4G, thought it would be a slight downgrade, I was wrong, I love My Nexus.
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Ditto. And to take it a step further, I did creep into these forums before I upgraded. I noticed it seemed a little slower, but took the leap.
I rooted the first day I got the phone, unrooted the next. I simply don't see the need now to root. I get updated asap, my battery lasts about 16 hours on average, and I have a **** ton of space on the phone.
On the EVO, I as always flashing an AOSP rom cause I wanted more free space, then going back to Sense, because I missed the UI. Now I feel like I can just have a phone for the time being, and not worry about flashing new roms for the next best thing.
Not a bad phone but the radio seems a bit week.
Maybe it's just in the Chicagoland area but reception sucks.
Sometimes I'm on 1x.
I barely get to use 4g.
Still have my upgrade available.
Might try something new just to see if it's the phone.
Anyone interested in purchasing my Nexus S 4g?
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Ditto. And to take it a step further, I did creep into these forums before I upgraded. I noticed it seemed a little slower, but took the leap.
I rooted the first day I got the phone, unrooted the next. I simply don't see the need now to root. I get updated asap, my battery lasts about 16 hours on average, and I have a **** ton of space on the phone.
On the EVO, I as always flashing an AOSP rom cause I wanted more free space, then going back to Sense, because I missed the UI. Now I feel like I can just have a phone for the time being, and not worry about flashing new roms for the next best thing.
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I'm so sayin the same thing. I too came from the EVO and as I must say I don't even WANT to root my Nexus.
So, I finally flashed a ROM onto my Atrix 2 for the first time the other day.
Synopsis
Long story short the twitter app crashed my phone and threw it into a boot-loop, I did some research, quickly learned the in's-and-out's of flashing ROM's, flashed the stock-ROM for my device, fully updated my device, and became a better man for it...okay, well maybe not that last part!
The nitty-gritty
What happened was I was trying to update my twitter when the app locked up after hitting the 'submit' button. I tried to force-close the program but to no avail. Then I had the bright idea of shutting down my phone. This is where the fun began.
After re-booting my phone, I discovered that it was stuck in a boot-loop. Now, my phone has been rooted for a little over a month. There were no issues that occurred after I rooted my phone up until that point. This is what leaves me to believe that Twitter corrupted some app data.
After this happened I took to the internet and scoured over forums (this one chief among them), articles, videos, and even asked a few fellow-android users here in the real world. Everywhere I looked lead me to this term I had feared up until this point: Flashing.
I understood that flashing a ROM was just like installing a new operating system. I had toyed around with Linux before just a bit and am savvy-ish when it comes to computers. However, I was so terrified of bricking my phone in trying to flash a new ROM onto it (I would have been track-phoning for around a year until my next manufacturer subsidy came out on my account.)
After discovering terms like deodexed, CM7, stock, AP Fastboot, RSD Lite, and hardware-key reset, I felt like I was finally able to attempt the flashing. The first few attempts failed as I didn't realize I didn't have enough battery life to sustain the flashing process.
After charging it up, I flashed the stock ROM onto my phone. The moment it went from the red M puddle screen to the dripping AT&T sphere, then onward to the ROM was a moment of pure joy (not to sound corny.) I felt like I had beat-the-system. A problem that would have forced others to return their phone to the store was a problem that I fixed myself.
Final Thought
I know this is rather cinematic for it being a simple flash job on an android device. But, for me, this was quite exhilarating. I'm not comfortable flashing anything lower than full-release ROM's (beta and alpha ROM's are a bit beyond my scope right now.) But, I do look forward to testing out various full-release ROM's as they become available.
AscottW said:
So, I finally flashed a ROM onto my Atrix 2 for the first time the other day.
Synopsis
Long story short the twitter app crashed my phone and threw it into a boot-loop, I did some research, quickly learned the in's-and-out's of flashing ROM's, flashed the stock-ROM for my device, fully updated my device, and became a better man for it...okay, well maybe not that last part!
The nitty-gritty
What happened was I was trying to update my twitter when the app locked up after hitting the 'submit' button. I tried to force-close the program but to no avail. Then I had the bright idea of shutting down my phone. This is where the fun began.
After re-booting my phone, I discovered that it was stuck in a boot-loop. Now, my phone has been rooted for a little over a month. There were no issues that occurred after I rooted my phone up until that point. This is what leaves me to believe that Twitter corrupted some app data.
After this happened I took to the internet and scoured over forums (this one chief among them), articles, videos, and even asked a few fellow-android users here in the real world. Everywhere I looked lead me to this term I had feared up until this point: Flashing.
I understood that flashing a ROM was just like installing a new operating system. I had toyed around with Linux before just a bit and am savvy-ish when it comes to computers. However, I was so terrified of bricking my phone in trying to flash a new ROM onto it (I would have been track-phoning for around a year until my next manufacturer subsidy came out on my account.)
After discovering terms like deodexed, CM7, stock, AP Fastboot, RSD Lite, and hardware-key reset, I felt like I was finally able to attempt the flashing. The first few attempts failed as I didn't realize I didn't have enough battery life to sustain the flashing process.
After charging it up, I flashed the stock ROM onto my phone. The moment it went from the red M puddle screen to the dripping AT&T sphere, then onward to the ROM was a moment of pure joy (not to sound corny.) I felt like I had beat-the-system. A problem that would have forced others to return their phone to the store was a problem that I fixed myself.
Final Thought
I know this is rather cinematic for it being a simple flash job on an android device. But, for me, this was quite exhilarating. I'm not comfortable flashing anything lower than full-release ROM's (beta and alpha ROM's are a bit beyond my scope right now.) But, I do look forward to testing out various full-release ROM's as they become available.
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In all technicality all you're doing when flashing a rom (at least now) is installing some tweaked files such as build.prop or some tweaked system files for themes. By no means is it a new OS. But once a main kernel Dec finished up with a CM7 kernel we should be able to flash a custom kernel which is the meat of what really runs your phone. Really the stuff we can do right now only really have to do withtl the UI.
But anyways welcome to the world of android development!
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Congrats on flashing your first ROM . Sorry to hear it didn't completely work out for your. Quick question: did you wipe the Dalvik Cache as part of the flashing process?
By the way, most of the ROMs labeled "beta" are pretty stable. If a ROM has had more than a few updates and it's still in beta, it's mostly because the developer is either planning on adding more features for the full release or is a perfectionist
Well, as you can tell it's a sharp learning curve. But welcome to the world of Android hacking/modding/whateveryoucallit, and happy flashing
wait, are you telling me that there are actually people who do research before complaining about some little thing they don't know how to do?!?!?!?!?!?!?
FINALLY
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LOL.. good story/nice read.. Welcome!
I would say it worked out pretty well. I will probably flash a custom ROM later on this week. I will also keep reading up on the whole process and the it's and out's.
I cleared both user data and the dalvik cache as well. Pretty much at that point I was desperate. Lolz
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wait, are you telling me that there are actually people who do research before complaining about some little thing they don't know how to do?!?!?!?!?!?!?
FINALLY
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Hahaha.. Well, with this involving my phone (for which I don't have the hundreds of dollars to buy one outside the manufacturers subsidy) I wanted to make sure I was doing things right.
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I would say it worked out pretty well. I will probably flash a custom ROM later on this week. I will also keep reading up on the whole process and the it's and out's.
I cleared both user data and the dalvik cache as well. Pretty much at that point I was desperate. Lolz
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its really easy, so you should go ahead, the roms we have are way better than stock. Lithium is y favorite right now.
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LOL.. good story/nice read.. Welcome!
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Glad you enjoyed it! I am happy that my twitter app decided to crash, now.
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Hahaha.. Well, with this involving my phone (for which I don't have the hundreds of dollars to buy one outside the manufacturers subsidy) I wanted to make sure I was doing things right.
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I second that.. better to take your time to research, and do things right the first time...
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its really easy, so you should go ahead, the roms we have are way better than stock. Lithium is y favorite right now.
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^Total opinion about stock and custom... I'm on stock/odex/modded/tweaked with some bells and whistles... nice, responsive, and stable..
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^Total opinion about stock and custom... I'm on stock/odex/modded/tweaked with some bells and whistles... nice, responsive, and stable..
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I agree. Spent this weekend working on the Stock 2.3.6 rooted/odexed. Added the Superv6, and other mods, hotspot wifi fix, removed bloat. Definitely more fun this way. Then again I had a buttload of practice on my original ATRIX.
And thank god for the bootstrap and FXZ !!!!
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And thank god for the bootstrap and FXZ !!!!
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Yes without that I would of had an expensive paperweight to many times
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I agree. Spent this weekend working on the Stock 2.3.6 rooted/odexed. Added the Superv6, and other mods, hotspot wifi fix, removed bloat. Definitely more fun this way. Then again I had a buttload of practice on my original ATRIX.
And thank god for the bootstrap and FXZ !!!!
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How exactly do I identify bloatware? I have two programs to do that Titanium backup and Rom Manager as well as a few 3p uninstallers. However, I never know exactly what to delete?
AscottW said:
How exactly do I identify bloatware? I have two programs to do that Titanium backup and Rom Manager as well as a few 3p uninstallers. However, I never know exactly what to delete?
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DON'T ever delete any programs. It is better to use something like bloat freezer, and freeze these apps, than to delete them.
The updates check for missing "bloatware" and will fail to install the updates due to ANY missing apps, that came with the stock image.
If you want a debloated image, then use one of the more custom ROMS like lithium, or Supercharged, etc.
If you use a debloated ROM, then you can always flash the fxz back before any updates come out, we tend to start screaming pretty load on here when updates start to arrive as you may have already seen this week with the ICS leaks.
P.S. It is VERY hard to hardbrick this phone, it took me killing the signature on the kernel to get my first hardbrick, and I have had 3 more hardbricks. I have the warranty through att, so I never worry about things like that, since I am a dev and take my phones life into my own hands, and ATT always has exchanged my phone on the spot for over 12 years now.... You can softbrick (bootloop), but that is an easy fix with the FXZ (lifesaver). So not too much to worry about hurting your phone with flashing...
jimbridgman said:
DON'T ever delete any programs. It is better to use something like bloat freezer, and freeze these apps, than to delete them.
The updates check for missing "bloatware" and will fail to install the updates due to ANY missing apps, that came with the stock image.
If you want a debloated image, then use one of the more custom ROMS like lithium, or Supercharged, etc.
If you use a debloated ROM, then you can always flash the fxz back before any updates come out, we tend to start screaming pretty load on here when updates start to arrive as you may have already seen this week with the ICS leaks.
P.S. It is VERY hard to hardbrick this phone, it took me killing the signature on the kernel to get my first hardbrick, and I have 3 more hardbricks. I have the warranty through att, so I never worry about things like that, since I am a dev and take my phones life into my own hands.... You can softbrick (bootloop), but that is an easy fix with the FXZ (lifesaver). So not too much to worry about hurting your phone with flashing...
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LOL, I was laughing so hard when XDA crashed last night. I was sure we caused it with our ICS Freak out!!!!
lkrasner said:
LOL, I was laughing so hard when XDA crashed last night. I was sure we caused it with our ICS Freak out!!!!
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I though the same thing, and I was kind of glad it did crash though, so that I could find that article with the interview of cyanogen that was posted on the XDA-dev home page.
AscottW, I am like you -I read and researched and forum'd my evening/early morning hours away with regards to the whole rooting and flashing and so on. I have never done such things with a phone before, but being fairly computer savvy myself felt like after several hard weeks learning as much as I could, flashed MY first ROM. (Did a little happy dance myself when I saw the custom boot animation for the first time, think I even let out a little school boy squeal as well! -Glad no one was around to hear that)
Still reading and researching and forum'ing at every free moment I have (girlfriend and kids think my laptop has become permanently attached to my, well... lap!) and am really interested in possibly getting myself to a point where I can be of some usefulness in the dev world.
Admittedly, after flashing for the first time, I got foolish with CWM and did basically what seemed like deleting the system partition and told the Android OS to get lost. Big mistake. Got stuck in a crazy splash screen loop and wouldn't load Android OS for the life of me. That said, with the help of the good people here on this forum, I was able to be walked through a AP Fastboot FXZ file fix, updated back to 2.3.6, and started over -making damn sure I knew what I was doing before doing ANYTHING! lol
Feel like: "I just had sex"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQlIhraqL7o
PhoenixNghi said:
Feel like: "I just had sex"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQlIhraqL7o
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lol @ this!
Not your typical, "what is the most stable Rom?" thread. I rooted my buddies phone when he came to see me about a week ago, and tossed a nice ICS Rom on it, AospX. Really nice Rom, BUT, he's having some issues with it. Since he is not quite as nerdy as I, I wanted to reach out to those of you who in fact DO own the phone, and can recommend a full featured Rom that is somewhat stable.... i.e. Camera works, voice calls, data, w/out random reboots. He lives 4 hours from me in Denver, so I don't make it down there often enough to really give him the latest and greatest frequently.
I have a few lined up for him to try later tonight:
Android_Revolution 6.3.3
BlissDroid V1 and the 1.1 update
RCMix.Energized 2.21.12
If there is an MIUI port, GB or ICS, I would love to get him on that. I have searched the forum and only found mention of the Rom, not the Rom itself. Feel free to shoot me a link!!!
Thank you Ladies and Gentlemen.
The best you can do is let him download the xda app, teach him the basics:
-where to go to download roms
-how to backup
-how to wipe or get a wipe script
-how to flash
-how to recover if anything goes wrong, i.e.: mount sd card to transfer the rom from the pc to the cell
-and probably more I forgot.
Rd miui is nice as well the one made by mcgrath. Those are gb. I can't remember if bliind made a gb miui, he is working on an ics.
You can get roms from both the inspire and dhd forums.
Edit: It may be best you keep him on GB and wait till ICS is 99% working. Cause if you don't, he may start complaining like our girlfriends and wives. I'm not insinuating anything nor mean any disrespect, I'm just trying to help you avoid constant calls/texts cause something may not be working and he not being as "nerdy" as us.
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Teichopsia said:
The best you can do is let him download the xda app, teach him the basics:
-where to go to download roms
-how to backup
-how to wipe or get a wipe script
-how to flash
-how to recover if anything goes wrong, i.e.: mount sd card to transfer the rom from the pc to the cell
-and probably more I forgot.
Rd miui is nice as well the one made by mcgrath. Those are gb. I can't remember if bliind made a gb miui, he is working on an ics.
You can get roms from both the inspire and dhd forums.
Edit: It may be best you keep him on GB and wait till ICS is 99% working. Cause if you don't, he may start complaining like our girlfriends and wives. I'm not insinuating anything nor mean any disrespect, I'm just trying to help you avoid constant calls/texts cause something may not be working and he not being as "nerdy" as us.
Sent from a dream
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YUP! Lol... I want to teach him the way of the Samurai, but he is, VERY VERY new. But we were all new. Thanks for the ideas. I know exactly what you mean, except my wife is on MIUI V4 on here Nexus and loves it. No complaining!
Again, thanks, and I'll be checking this every little bit on my way to Denver.
monkeybone12 said:
YUP! Lol... I want to teach him the way of the Samurai, but he is, VERY VERY new. But we were all new. Thanks for the ideas. I know exactly what you mean, except my wife is on MIUI V4 on here Nexus and loves it. No complaining!
Again, thanks, and I'll be checking this every little bit on my way to Denver.
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Maybe write down the steps somewhere for him just in case. All this info when we are new is overwhelming.
By the way, thanks to you I've received my 100th thanks
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Teichopsia said:
Maybe write down the steps somewhere for him just in case. All this info when we are new is overwhelming.
By the way, thanks to you I've received my 100th thanks
Sent from a dream
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Lol. Will do, and glad to give it!
SENT VIA ICS MIUI ON THE INTERNETS!!!
Even though it was mentioned, I didn't realize DHD was the desire hd.... and there appears to be a V4 MIUI on MIUI.us for that. Next time I go see him, that's the trick. For the mean time, CM9 was flashed. So far do good. Pretty smooth! Bad as battery life. He's happy.
SENT VIA ICS MIUI ON THE INTERNETS!!!