Trying to decide the winner of my next phone - General Questions and Answers

Well, those are both the top dogs of the different manufacturers.
The SGSII has better video quality/performance/screen/battery life.
the 3DVO 3D, its gimmick, the onliest thing wanting me to buy it is the premium feel, i think it has? I'm sure it has more but what?
Can somebody point out what more things there are?
It's 50/50 the premium feel vs everything.. I am seriously confused about which I should buy.
all of this is what i made up from youtube video reviews.
Which is the real superior phone?
Which advantages does the phone have, excluding what I named. It sure has more.
Actually I wanted to wait for the Nexus prime as I can wait
But it seems like all networks are going to make a huge change in the data plans and force you a more expensive less minutes plan, but the same data as it currently has, 1GB.
Unlimited>1GB> now wanting to is 400mb..
seriously common Vodafone!
T-mobile in my country still has "unlimited" max 1GB after that 64/64
But worst coverage in the land, rural places have bad/no service >_> and the coverage is full of holes, I saw the map its horrible..
KPN the best but you pay a high premium,
Lastly which phone should I get?

nobody?
they are going to lower the data cap at 31 july >_>

id say go for the evo 3d

Thats what I want,
but i take a lot of pictures with my phone, got like 300 in like a couple of months with my iphone, i hate the quality of it but i try to make something out of it,
and i heard the pictures are worse than the SGSII, this is the only factor holding me back, they are also much darker. And I am going to use it for low light conditions like my room.
Well I also could try my luck and maybe they fixed something on the GSM version, brown/gold camera ring.
But yeah picture quality/color is the onliest thing holding me back, and a little bit the performance and led.

Definitely get the galaxy s. The screen is beuatiful, it has great specs, and the 3d thing on the evo3d is a gimmick. Pictures aren't great either. You wont regret the sII.
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i think ill regret the SII, why yeah i just dont like the design of it.
the bump.. thats exactly the part i hold.
and i prefer not to hold the part thats the biggest.
it seems like itll easily slip out of my hand becuase of the thinness,
and i Just want to own a HTC phone
samsung maybe next time. Nexus ?? over 2 years.
except if you tell me something extraordinary that I haven't found yet about the SGSII, I think ill go with the 3DVO,
please reply as i want to buy it now online
sgsII is cheaper 30 euro.
and please say something that i maybe havent found yet

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Goodbye Captivate hello htc inspire

I would like to thank the devs and all the other helpful people in the captivate forums, tons of information from fixing a broken phone to enhancing it with custom roms or tweaks. I have found almost if not all solutions to every problem I have had with my phone. Decided to upgrade to the htc inspire and it is really freaking sweet. So time to switch to the inspire forums. Btw I checked out the atrix and have commented on it before and it just feels cheap same size screen as cappy but everything on screen looks smaller wasnt impressed with it. anyways been fun.
You mean you switched to a phone that has 2 doors that dont fit on the back and a camera that sticks out and the edges of the aluminum body protrude past the screen?
At least you can fix the software problems with the cappy...LOL just playing....enjoy
yep and like everything about it, nothing about cap i actually liked, was just only decent android phone att had at time. cappy felt like a little girl phone, and hated the plastic and the galaxy s sticking out all rough on the back, oh and the usb slot on top like how much thought was actually put into that? talking on the phone and its sticking out the top? Holding the htc in hand feels like quality and quite pleased with it, yes the battery door is rough to take off first few times but it loosens up, and atleast it has a flash.
jc2470 said:
I would like to thank the devs and all the other helpful people in the captivate forums, tons of information from fixing a broken phone to enhancing it with custom roms or tweaks. I have found almost if not all solutions to every problem I have had with my phone. Decided to upgrade to the htc inspire and it is really freaking sweet. So time to switch to the inspire forums. Btw I checked out the atrix and have commented on it before and it just feels cheap same size screen as cappy but everything on screen looks smaller wasnt impressed with it. anyways been fun.
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I think I'm just about ready to join you.
Having to pay $399 off-contract to get the insipre sux, though. I'll have to sell my captivate, and I'm not sure whether to do it via Craigslist or eBay... just a hassle I wish I didn't have to deal with.
It'd be a lot easier if att would just take this phone back and give me credit towards the inspire, but I ain't gonna hold my breath for that one.
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I had captivate for 6 months i only had to pay 300.00 for the inspire with 6 month early upgrade. I put my captivate on craigslist for 175.00 this afternoon and sold it 30 min later, someone contacted me within 5 min of posting it on craigslist. basically it cost me 150.00 out of pocket today to get it and my cappy was 6 months old i think that is minimum for early upgrade not sure but call att store.
Hey I was just kidding. I have been through many phones. Some are better than others. The Captivate is decent, but definitely is not one of the better Android offerings. I was going to buy the atrix, although thats supposed to have a rather dissapointing screen. Oh well.
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I had captivate for 6 months i only had to pay 300.00 for the inspire with 6 month early upgrade. I put my captivate on craigslist for 175.00 this afternoon and sold it 30 min later, someone contacted me within 5 min of posting it on craigslist. basically it cost me 150.00 out of pocket today to get it and my cappy was 6 months old i think that is minimum for early upgrade not sure but call att store.
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My early upgrade doesn't come til July, and I'm not gonna wait that long. It's getting harder and harder to hold out with all the happy captivate->inspire defections that are growing by the day ;-)
That's pretty encouraging on the Craigslist thing, I must say. That'll be the way I go, when this swap goes down.
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Love the inspire hardware, hate the software and from reading their development forums it seems like a much different community than ours.
sturgeon123456 said:
Hey I was just kidding. I have been through many phones. Some are better than others. The Captivate is decent, but definitely is not one of the better Android offerings. I was going to buy the atrix, although thats supposed to have a rather dissapointing screen. Oh well.
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I had my hands on both devices today. I agree about the screen size of the Atrix. It was just too small, and I didnt care for the feel of it either. Now the Inspire on the other hand, was REALLY nice, not to mention, $99.99 with a 2 yr, if I hadn't just done my upgrade on my Captivate. I'd give the Inspire a serious look.
There were a couple things that I think make the Cap a better phone. The Cap has the Hummingbird processor, and comes with double the internal memory the Inspire does. But the Inspire has a 8mp camera with flash. There aren't too many other devices that have that one. THe screen is a little bigger, and it really does feel pretty good, nice solid build
jc2470 said:
I would like to thank the devs and all the other helpful people in the captivate forums, tons of information from fixing a broken phone to enhancing it with custom roms or tweaks. I have found almost if not all solutions to every problem I have had with my phone. Decided to upgrade to the htc inspire and it is really freaking sweet. So time to switch to the inspire forums. Btw I checked out the atrix and have commented on it before and it just feels cheap same size screen as cappy but everything on screen looks smaller wasnt impressed with it. anyways been fun.
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did you happen to also notice a difference in call quality and battery life?
i was thinking of getting the inspire, but decided on the captivate since there were more things one can do on it.
i have to say that both phones look really nice though.
i love the captivate hardware, it's super slim, great screen, fast hummingbird, but the software blows. hopefully we can fix it with aosp builds until my contract is up again.
Only 12gb of storage is a big minus for me. Everything else look good though. I change phones once a year so by the time november rolls around something way better than the cappy and the inspire will be available.
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Volume & Signal ???
So, hows the volume and signal on the inspire compared to the cappy. I mean does it pull in signal better than the cappy and how is the volume, earpiece and speaker, compare to the cappy ?
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So, hows the volume and signal on the inspire compared to the cappy. I mean does it pull in signal better than the cappy and how is the volume, earpiece and speaker, compare to the cappy ?
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I think the Inspire pulls in a better signal than my Captivate (which I sold on Craigslist a week later). Volume, earpiece, and speaker seem the same to me although I'm no audiophile and usually use a my bluetooth headset to talk anyway.
Regardless of how some people feel about SAMOLED screens, I thought the Captivate's screen was awesome. The Inspire's screen is more than adequate and the extra 0.3 inches is quite noticeable. The colors are not as vibrant and rich as the Captivate's but again.. it's very adequate.
There are three other features where the Captivate shines:
1) MKV compatibility: It was nice being able to toss a 720P MKV file of my TV shows onto the phone and play it smoothly without having to waste time re-encoding.
2) 16GB of internal storage: It's nice to have an excess of storage space!
3) TV out even though it's only analog.
The Inspire doesn't have the codec support for MKV files, has 1GB of internal storage accessible to the user, and no TV out. Bummer.
I still like the Inspire more because of the two most important features: Working GPS and that huge 4.3" screen. Seriously... side by side that screen just jumps out.
If memory is your prob just buy more its not that much, everything is more snappy its faster and i have great signal. Love the screen and i love sense ui built in theme support way more widgets and better widgets, htc sense to find your phone from web or ring it or remote wipe or lock is really kool. usb port on bottom as opposed to top on captivate which btw is the most retarded design flaw, who likes a charging cord pullig on top of phone especially car charger with the spiral cord? audio sounds really good to me on it better then on captivate, lets not forge dual led flash for camera, which is also 8mp led blinking notification on front which i loved on droid x but captivate lacked, bigger screen!
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So, hows the volume and signal on the inspire compared to the cappy. I mean does it pull in signal better than the cappy and how is the volume, earpiece and speaker, compare to the cappy ?
I think the Inspire pulls in a better signal than my Captivate (which I sold on Craigslist a week later). Volume, earpiece, and speaker seem the same to me although I'm no audiophile and usually use a my bluetooth headset to talk anyway.
Regardless of how some people feel about SAMOLED screens, I thought the Captivate's screen was awesome. The Inspire's screen is more than adequate and the extra 0.3 inches is quite noticeable. The colors are not as vibrant and rich as the Captivate's but again.. it's very adequate.
There are three other features where the Captivate shines:
1) MKV compatibility: It was nice being able to toss a 720P MKV file of my TV shows onto the phone and play it smoothly without having to waste time re-encoding.
2) 16GB of internal storage: It's nice to have an excess of storage space!
3) TV out even though it's only analog.
The Inspire doesn't have the codec support for MKV files, has 1GB of internal storage accessible to the user, and no TV out. Bummer.
I still like the Inspire more because of the two most important features: Working GPS and that huge 4.3" screen. Seriously... side by side that screen just jumps out.
Mkv doesnt need to be re-encoded, mkv is only a wrapper, use a program called tsmuxer, i can do a 20g mkv in like 2 min its switchs the container file type, like mt2s or other compatiable file types and u can stream whatever to the tv so I got no problems with that.
Btw in 6 months there will be new phones out that are even better u are correct on that and i will be upgrading then aswell if they have a decent one out.
What's this whole gold card stuff? Looks like a monumental task tio root the thing ?
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Sold my captivate for 250 on craigslist and bought my Inspire off contract. Definitely the best decision I have made in a long time. I dont find myself missing anything about the captivate. I will always be buying HTC from now even if they dont start pumping out dual core phones. I take software over hardware.
Sold my captivate on ebay for $300 and currently have my wife's listed as well. Bought two new off contract inspire's and have been 100% happier than I ever was with any ROM on the captivate.
2 of my brothers just switched to inspire aswell and love it, captivate was never something that made me like wow i love this phone was just i love android. Now I love the phone like i did my droid x and te stock htc software is kool the way it is. Want root for it but no need to change roms.

[Q] Is The Infuse Worth It?

So I have a Captivate and was thinking about upgrading to the Infuse. Is it worth getting? I know it has a better camera and a larger screen, but reviews say that the screen PPI is less than the Captivate and the processor isn't dual core. Just 200mhz faster. So I'm at a crossroads... Keep my Cappy or upgrade?
I personally think it is a great device. i can say one of the best i have own. People make such a big fuzz about screens i honestly done get it. it doenst have one of those cheap phone screens, so im set. i can read my text, videos look good. so im good. its a phone not a computer.
its good phone, it works and functions as it should. so im content. this is my first samsung phone. and im happy. its a great little big device
My first android and im in love. I would recommend the infuse. Unless if ur in the battle between the infuse and sgsII. I still love my infuse though.
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I'd say totally worth it, had a captivate running gingerbread and loved it but this blows it away, far better screen, camera(also front facing), gps rocks, love downloading movies from pirate bay straight from my phone and watching them on the big screen with an hdmi. It's really fast, great roms so far and it'll get gb roms really soon... I bought mine for 200 and right now it's only 50 at target! The only downside is the sgs2 will be released next month... Either way both are huge upgrades from the already awesome captivate!
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Im always streaming movies for free off of a website. Looks sooo great on this screen.
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I have the inspire and the infuse, and i really like the infuse better. Its a very snappy phone. The battery life is way better on the infuse, its lighter and the screen is better than the inspire. Now with that said, compared to the Craptivate which was my first android phone the infuse is 100 times better. I have a feeling when we get gingerbread its going to be a great device.
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I don't think it's worth it, the specs aren't all that different. (400mhz bump in clock speed, slightly better camera, slightly better screen). I'd wait till August for the S2 at the very least.
I mean, I do love my Infuse.. But let's be realistic.
re: Getting an Infuse is it worth it
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So I have a Captivate and was thinking about upgrading to the Infuse. Is it worth getting? I know it has a better camera and a larger screen, but reviews say that the screen PPI is less than the Captivate and the processor isn't dual core. Just 200mhz faster. So I'm at a crossroads... Keep my Cappy or upgrade?
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It all depends, if the main thing you do with the phone is talk and play a couple songs then its not worth it.
But if you do a lot of other stuff with the phone and have an extra $200 bucks to shell out like I did, you can buy a new or near new one on eBay for under $450 and you can sell your captivate for at least $225 if its in good shape and complete. So its not as if you were to shell out $450.
I sold my Captivate for $250 on eBay in less than 2 days about 3 weeks ago.
There is a big difference between Captivate and Infuse.
Since I take a lot of pictures the main thing which comes to mind is the fact that the Infuse has a LED flash, the flash is nothing like a professional strobe BUT without the LED flash, as I am certain you know by now that you can forget about taking decent pictures indoors or outdoors at night.
With the LED flash I get very decent pictures anywhere and anytime as long as the subject(s) is not much further than 7 feet or so from where I stand.
Plus the Infuse also has a front facing camera which is great for video chat using wifi and or 3G. Not to forget that the camera is much better being its 8Megapixels.
And yes the Infuse is not double the speed of the Captivate, but the 20% increase which it does have is nothing to sneeze at either. It is noticably faster. The speed difference is most noticable when playing action games and when you surf the web.
Perhaps 4G is in your future? if it is, the Infuse has that too.
Plus you can record and watch 720p videos then connect the phone to big screen tv using the mini hdmi adaptor which comes with the phone.
All in all its well worth the couple hundred bucks difference.
If you do plan to buy one, I would suggest you do it as soon as you can because the longer you wait the less money you will be able to sell the Captivate for on eBay or anywhere else.
I wanted to write about the big 4.5 inch SCREEN last, that in my mind is such a huge difference that if everything else was the same on both phones and the only difference was the screen size I would have still purchased the Infuse..
A half inch does not sound like much at all, but when you consider something so small to start with as a 4 inch screen and then you add a half inch to that, it makes the Infuse screen approx 20% larger.
Not only is the screen larger, but it uses a much newer Super Amoled Plus screen technology which really rivals the iPhone screen as far as resolution goes, its way better than the Captivate. Infuse is much better on the eyes for people who spend a lot of time using all the features of the phone.
Well thats about it........... That's my review and comparison between Captivate and the Infuse phones.
Good luck!
Infuse it is
Thank you guys for your opinions! Putting up the Cappy up for sale now. And if you know anyone who wants to buy one, well you know I'm selling!
TheJareBear said:
Thank you guys for your opinions! Putting up the Cappy up for sale now. And if you know anyone who wants to buy one, well you know I'm selling!
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Go to target ($50 with upgrade) if there sold out take the ad or pull it up online and go to bestbuy. Show them they will price match.
Carlrobling said:
Go to target ($50 with upgrade) if there sold out take the ad or pull it up online and go to bestbuy. Show them they will price match.
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Best Buy will not price match. I tried yesterday
Walmart price matches. If they say that they can't, then they are lying or don't know anything.
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I also upgraded from the Cappy, And I'm completely lovin' the Infuse. Even tho the SGSII is releasing, I'm probably gonna stick to this bad boy. (Maybe). But still Cappy or Infuse both are great phones, Infuse just knocks the captivate out with more upgraded features. Its like BumbleBee in transformers, The old Camaro, the to the new camaro.
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Best Buy will not price match. I tried yesterday
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BestBuy definately matches. Just bought one a few hours ago. Had them price check on the web and even told them Target wasnt getting them until tomorrow. All depends on the rep. Manager signed off on the 50 Target price match no problem.
lstrike said:
BestBuy definately matches. Just bought one a few hours ago. Had them price check on the web and even told them Target wasnt getting them until tomorrow. All depends on the rep. Manager signed off on the 50 Target price match no problem.
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They price matched for me too. Go back get a different rep and adk for a.price match. Stop by target and pick up there ad. That should seal the deal.
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I have had or used several phones lately:
BlackBerry (Sets the Standard, but I don't see BB keeping up with the trend)
HTC Tilt 2 (The best speakers),
Moto Razor (Still going strong after 5 years) Wife loves it
Samsung Blackjack 3 (wore the paint off the keyboard)
Moto Atrix (Fast phone and very nice)
HTC Inspire (just keeps getting better)
Infuse (The best screen out there)
My favorite of all is the Infuse, except it doesn't make Chai Latte' with a dash of cinnamon and nutmeg.
There are hundreds of phones out there to choose from for hundreds of different needs, likes and dislikes.
There are a lot of critics over cell phones, but any of the top brands and top models are going to be just right for someone. Manufactures are cranking out new models faster than the first recharge. The Infuse I have is an engineering marvel. You just can't beat Samsung, HTC, Motorola, Palm, BB, LG, Nokia, Apple, etc.
I still have an old Qualcomm from around 1995. I keep it as a reminder of how far phones have come in just a few years.
The Infuse is a top-of-the-line SmartPhone. The only complaint I have about it is: No External LED notification lights.
The hottest phone I'm hearing about and reading about is the Samsung Galaxy S II 4G
tsuprajoker said:
I also upgraded from the Cappy, And I'm completely lovin' the Infuse. Even tho the SGSII is releasing, I'm probably gonna stick to this bad boy. (Maybe). But still Cappy or Infuse both are great phones, Infuse just knocks the captivate out with more upgraded features. Its like BumbleBee in transformers, The old Camaro, the to the new camaro.
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nothing wrong with the ol cappy, nor the infuse. hell verizon customers need to make a choice, tegra2 or lte. all the lte phones have single core 1ghz processors. all the dual core phones are 3g. they had to either drop or delay the bionic due to heat issues. instead they released a 3g droid x2 with the tegra chipset.
id rather have a nice thin samsung than all that stuff they have on verizon, and i can do without the sgs2 for now. ill get next years varient though im sure. i cant keep a phone for 2 years anymore. i have an obsession.
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i cant keep a phone for 2 years anymore. i have an obsession.
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At least I know I'm not alone anymore
For some reason I always feel the need to upgrade my phone every 6mo or so. Right now have the iPhone so it makes it easier to stay with 1 phone for a full year. Android moves so quick that I'm always trying to find that perfect phone that does everything imaginable for me.
I sell mobile phones for a living and every time I unbox an Infuse and fire it up I'm blown away. I prefer Samsung phones, had the Vibrant and Nexus S. Currently I have a G2x and I couldn't be more disappointed. I'm so close to switching over to the Infuse....
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The Infuse is my first Android. I switched over from an iPhone 3G. And oh my goodness what an upgrade it was. I can never go back to an iPhone with it's baby-sized screen. The Infuse is one of my best purchases ever and I have not looked back since. I thought I could never live without my iPhone. Then came my Infuse and 2 days later, I sold my iPhone with no regrets at all. Go with the Infuse. It is amazing. And Netflix just released for it, making it even sweeter.

Those of you thinking of switching to SGS II Read here

I used my upgrade almost a month ago (coming from an infuse 4g) and initally i was wondering if i did the right thing. The SR is faster, has LTE (i dont live in an LTE area) however adding on another 2 years to my contract seemed questionable for such a small upgrade (at least from the Infuse). Ive been here for 3 weeks now and was thinking (just like some of you are) of switching to the SGS II simply because of the lack of dev support the SR seemes to have. Well 3 days ago i got an SGS II. I used it for about a day,did some tests, and i can now say with confidence that compared the the Skyrocket the SGS II doesnt even feel like it should be a part of the Galaxy family. The problems i had with it.
1. Build quality - The build quality was terrible! the back cover felt like a thin piece of cardboard, the speaker was horrible and it had that same ugly bump at the bottom of the phone my infuse and most other samsung phones have. It felt like if i dropped it that would be it. Not to mention the terrible backlighting of the capcative buttons on the front. The Skyrocket has the LED backlit... SGS II looks yellowish and just plain ugly
2. Network speed - I live in a crappy area. An hour north of fresno CA. With the Skyrocket i get about 3-7MBPS on "4g non LTE". With the SGS II in the same area same bars same everything i only could pull at the most 1-2.5mbps... Terrible!
3. Last years technology! - I purchased my Infuse 4g on launch day. I can honestaly say without a shadow of a doubt the SGS II feels and looks JUST LIKE the Infuse 4g. The only real difference is the Infuse 4g has a single core processor and a slightly larger screen. If im going to be under contract for another two years why would i want the same technology i could have gotten almost a year ago?
All in all NOW i can say im happy with my SR. It may not be a huge upgrade but its a hell of a lot better than the Infuse 4g/SGS II. The SGS II feels like something is missing, as if it were rushed to the market and compared to the Skyrocket is just feels plain slow in every aspect (browsing, gaming, daily tasks,) It felt just like the Infuse 4g!!! I dont look at it as the Galaxy S II. I look at it as a smaller Infuse 4g or a slightly upgraded Infuse. Please if your considering jumping ship make sure your thuroughly spend your time with that phone first. Glad I did.
I beg to differ. There are a few things i dislike about the skyrocket, but they are not enough to send me back the SGS2.
1. The screen is crap. The extra .2" is nice, but the color calibration and the line/blob issue makes everything look terrible. Compare the skyrocket to an SGS2 or an Infuse and you will see exactly what i'm talking about.
2. I'm not a big fan of the rounded corners on the Skyrocket. I wish samsung would had made the phone similar to the infuse with different internals. Also, I wish the battery cover was a textured finish. The smooth finish IMHO feels cheap.
3. Developer support. The sgs2 is virtually the same exact phone as the european version and that means it gets the latest roms quicker. It is something i definitely miss after moving to the skyrocket.
The reason I won't go back to the SGS2 is I want LTE. But I do agree on the buttons on the SGS2. They are yellow and ugly.
Hopefully samsung will fix the skyrocket's screen defects and then I have no reservations in keeping it.
The lines/ blob are only visible on low brightness and on dark grey background. Manually set the brightness and you'll forget is there. There's nothing wrong with the screen is beautiful.
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Nice comments... I was wondering if there was support and development of rom, manly to ICS dev to this sgs II lte, because I have the sgs I9000 and there is a lot of support, for example, I am running ICS already.
In resume, SGS II LTE there's a great hardware but poor support, am I correct?
How are your thoughts right now?
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Dxtra said:
The lines/ blob are only visible on low brightness and on dark grey background. Manually set the brightness and you'll forget is there. There's nothing wrong with the screen is beautiful.
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This is far from the truth. I was using the same wallpaper on the gs2 as I was on the skyrocket, the chroma ICS wallpaper, and the first thing I noticed when I booted up the skyrocket is how horrible the wallpaper looked. Colors were not blended well and the black parts looked blotchy.
And who wants to keep their brightness up all the time. I like having a battery that lasts all day and to do that I need to keep the brightness down. Regardless the screen quality on the skyrocket is not even close to the skyrocket.
Glad to see I'm not the only one having trouble deciding between these phones. I actually have both, and find myself swapping between the two.
1. I think the GSII is probably the best feeling phone in my hand. love the textured back, perfectly thin. I agree that the rounded corners on the SR piss me off. I've dropped this phone 3 times because it slid out of my carpenter pocket. I have never dropped the GSII in this manner and I attribute it to this design. I also prefer the power button on the GSII (location, click-feel). Petty, I know, but when you can hold and play with both for weeks at a time, you notice these things.
2. Apps. I'm actually liking the stock feel (for now) and noticed that the GSII has better apps. I get a kick out of the Voice Command/Talk App on the GSII (I want to port it over), the movie edit app, little things, ya know?
3. I do love the screen, the extra .2" makes a difference. Colors seems a bit on the washy side, but side to side I believe it is because the SR tends to be brighter than the SGII. i'm sure I could manually adjust it, but then I lose the AutoBrightness, but it still looks gorgeous. I'd give the SGII a 10, and the SR a 9.5, very negligible.
4. LTE, that's it. This is probably the only reason I bought the SR. It was faster, cheaper, and LTE is so close to my market I can smell it.
I don't think I'll ever settle until either LTE is in my market, or the wife steals the GSII from me.
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the extra .2" makes a difference
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That's what she said. Sorry I just had to.
OMG...
mentalcase said:
I beg to differ. There are a few things i dislike about the skyrocket, but they are not enough to send me back the SGS2.
1. The screen is crap. The extra .2" is nice, but the color calibration and the line/blob issue makes everything look terrible. Compare the skyrocket to an SGS2 or an Infuse and you will see exactly what i'm talking about.
2. I'm not a big fan of the rounded corners on the Skyrocket. I wish samsung would had made the phone similar to the infuse with different internals. Also, I wish the battery cover was a textured finish. The smooth finish IMHO feels cheap.
3. Developer support. The sgs2 is virtually the same exact phone as the european version and that means it gets the latest roms quicker. It is something i definitely miss after moving to the skyrocket.
The reason I won't go back to the SGS2 is I want LTE. But I do agree on the buttons on the SGS2. They are yellow and ugly.
Hopefully samsung will fix the skyrocket's screen defects and then I have no reservations in keeping it.
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Screen/color calibration has been beaten to death, give it a rest. If you got blobs, take it back and get it replaced. My SGSII had the lines issue, but AT&T was totally understanding when I was able to reproduce the problem. Then I took the leap because most of North Texas AT&T is LTE and went for the Skyrocket. I will NOT go back. The potential of a blisteringly fast phone is much more realistic with this phone, and I can wait for CM9 or MIUI or one of the others to show up to play with. And face it, that is what we are talking about.. PLAYING with the phone.This is my daily phone and I travel all over a four county region repairing computer hardware, and, the GPS in this under 2.3.6 syncs sooo much quicker than any other phones I have used. It just is not a contest PERIOD.
Give the devs a chance, be very nice if you even mention download location and alpha in the same sentence, and, be very grateful when they roll one out. If I had the time, I would love to try my hand at it, but, I really need to get up to speed on the basics first..
Or, if you are still in AT&T buyer's remorse program, you can always swap it for the 4s and a pink rhinestone incrusted case...
BTW: Does anyone really plan to use the phone without some sort of case protection? I just ordered the Otterbox and was told give them about another week and it will be out the door. The iMoshi washable screen protector is great, but, it is not exactly correct, and iMoshi is replacing it for free as soon as the next shipment with correct specs hits.
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BTW: Does anyone really plan to use the phone without some sort of case protection? I just ordered the Otterbox and was told give them about another week and it will be out the door. The iMoshi washable screen protector is great, but, it is not exactly correct, and iMoshi is replacing it for free as soon as the next shipment with correct specs hits.
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What is wrong with your Moshi screen protector, do you mean the circles not lining up? How are you getting Moshi to replace it? Did you buy it from their website or the att store? I have heard nothing about this.. lol
I had the Infuse and it frustrated the hell out of me. It seemed like it wanted to be a fast and functional phone, but it faceplanted daily. I moved to the HTC Vivid and I am not at all a Sense friend. It's a fast hone and has great features, but that seems like everything it can offer. I miss the screen on the Samsung phones already. What I really want to know is how well does the SR stand up to everyday use? I use Touchdown all day for work email, text a ton and use GPS daily as well. My kids watch movies on the phone when we travel and love to play games (shoot the apple is the latest.. try it!).
I don't care about a smooth back, it's getting cased. Is the camera as good as ppl say? How about the video? I've seen it skip and look choppy in some reviews when panning as cars drive by. Is it worth the 2yr extension? I've got 21 days left out of my 30 day return policy.
ROM wise, we wil get them, I've learned patience since I had my old Magic

How is this phone?

So I'm getting a new phone, and I've been looking around at tmobile phones, and this phone seems pretty amazing. Price isn't bad, either. I'm coming from a Cliq 2, which had very little dev support, and this seems like its got tons. However, after reading a little on this forum, it seems like some members don't like this phone.
Now, I'm not looking for a top of the line smart phone, although the HTC Amaze has crossed my mind, but this phone seems to have tons of good things going for it, with its cameras, display, and processor.
So, would any of you recommend this phone? Or should I look at other choices?
Thanks!
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Stock ROM is junk, I had reboots, and wifi would connect, but won't actually work.
Good news is, it's super easy to flash a new ROM, I use Weapon, and it's perfect.
So with the new ROM, you get a decent display, clear call quality, fast, loud speakerphone, and good batt. life.
So if the price is right, I'd buy it.
There is absolutely no reason to buy this phone today. Things like the Samsung Galaxy S2, the Galaxy Nexus, and whatever it is HTC is pushing these days (I don't keep up with Sense phones) are most assuredly going to be better. The G2X was outstanding in its day, but that day has past.
To be more specific, the 1 Ghz processor is underpowered, 1.2 and 1.5 are the norm now. RAM is even worse; the 512 of the G2X is pitiful compared to the gigabyte that is standard on newer devices. Tegra 2 is still a very good GPU, but with the weaknesses of CPU and RAM it's just not worth it.
As far as camera and display, both are unremarkable. The display is LCD instead of the LED that phones normally have; this results in duller colors and blacks that aren't very dark. However, the screen is perfectly visible in any level of daylight, so make of that what you will. I've never ran any tests, but the camera strikes me as average. Nothing particularly special about it.
As far as problems go, while this phone was riddled with them on release pretty much all of them have been fixed by either LG or the devs. Dev support, by the way, is superb. Nothing lacking on that front.
I say you already made your mind up on getting the g2x if its features are already pulling you in. No matter how many ppl say yes or no believe what you want out of the phone first. I love my g2x even with minimal screen bleed and occasional reboot its the best phone I've had yet.
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Haha alright! Thanks!
Oh, I'll be ready for anything to flash ROMs, the Cliq2 wasn't the easiest phone to do so on. But alright, that's good to hear. From what I've seen this phone has CM7, MIUI, and a bunch of other ROMs, like the one you said. That gets me excited, but I won't be looking forward to telling my girlfriend what I'm doing haha.
Yeah, it'll be $100 for the upgrade, so I think it'll be worth it
If you're worried about cost, the G2X is definitely worth it.
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If you're worried about cost, the G2X is definitely worth it.
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Right, the only thing that's stopping me is the price gap between this phone and other phones. Every time I look at the Amaze though, it looks better and better. If only I had $229 to spare. College sucks haha. Same goes for the SGSII
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Right, the only thing that's stopping me is the price gap between this phone and other phones. Every time I look at the Amaze though, it looks better and better. If only I had $229 to spare. College sucks haha. Same goes for the SGSII
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I would get the amaze.
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I agree, that if cost is not an issue, there are much better phones to be had. However, at the price point T-Mobile is selling the G2X right now, it's impossible to beat with a phone that has as many features.
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I agree, that if cost is not an issue, there are much better phones to be had. However, at the price point T-Mobile is selling the G2X right now, it's impossible to beat with a phone that has as many features.
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Yeah, I'm trying to figure out a way to afford one of those phones. But if I can't I'll go with this phone.
I have read about issues with the 4G connectivity, for this phone, is this still an issue?
Also, how is the radio in this phone? Cause in the Cliq2 it was awful, I wouldn't get signal in places where my brother would get full signal on his G2
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I would get the amaze.
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Amaze is cool but the G2x is the best value for a high-end smartphone on any carrier. I hear people constantly complaining about 1Ghz processors instead of 1.2Ghz or 1.5Ghz. This is baseless; it all comes down to performance. Not as if benchmarks are any better of an indication, but overclocked at 1.55Ghz, I get 5000+. Absolutely killer. Over 100 FPS in Quadrant.
Also, IPS display may have some light bleed (mine has ZERO) but the viewing angle and brightness are superb. It's no SAMOLED but still, looks beautiful. A slew of awesome ROMs coupled with outstanding build quality. It's a fantastic device.
The only thing keeping me from recommending this 100%: LG support is absolutely garbage. Be prepared for little attention for your baby G2x if you get one. LG flatout denies many issues and fails to provide support for consumers and developers.
I've also owned a Sensation, MT4G Slide, and MT4G (most recently) and the G2x is hands down the boss. I say get it. Or buy mine so I can get a G-Slate.
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Amaze is cool but the G2x is the best value for a high-end smartphone on any carrier. I hear people constantly complaining about 1Ghz processors instead of 1.2Ghz or 1.5Ghz. This is baseless; it all comes down to performance. Not as if benchmarks are any better of an indication, but overclocked at 1.55Ghz, I get 5000+. Absolutely killer. Over 100 FPS in Quadrant.
Also, IPS display may have some light bleed (mine has ZERO) but the viewing angle and brightness are superb. It's no SAMOLED but still, looks beautiful. A slew of awesome ROMs coupled with outstanding build quality. It's a fantastic device.
The only thing keeping me from recommending this 100%: LG support is absolutely garbage. Be prepared for little attention for your baby G2x if you get one. LG flatout denies many issues and fails to provide support for consumers and developers.
I've also owned a Sensation, MT4G Slide, and MT4G (most recently) and the G2x is hands down the boss. I say get it. Or buy mine so I can get a G-Slate.
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Yeah, from what I've read processor speed won't make too much of a difference with overclocking capabilities.
I think I've officially been sold on this phone, especially for this price and from what everyone is saying!
Another vote for "good value for the price" if price is a major consideration. If you're going to be flashing ROMs, I'm almost certain you can find something stable that will work properly for your phone. Enjoy!
The g2x is a great phone for the money right now. It performs as well as just about any other phone right now and has a ton of great features. It's no longer top dog, but it's not really surpassed by any other phone by a significant amount.
Plus they're just about free at target with 2yr upgrade right now. Can't beat that.
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The only thing I'd watch out with the Amaze is its battery life. From the reviews, it sounded pretty bad. The Galaxy SII would be a better choice, but I hate how the AMOLED screen looks (It's bright, vibrant, but has a strong color shift). G2x's color is more comfortable to my eyes (pure personal preference here).
For the price, g2x is great
Alright, I'll be sure to keep that in mind. I think I'll be getting this phone though, you all have made it seem great haha.
But how is the radio in this phone? Because like I said earlier, my brother has a G2 and would get full bars in places where I would have no service
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oilfighter said:
The only thing I'd watch out with the Amaze is its battery life. From the reviews, it sounded pretty bad. The Galaxy SII would be a better choice, but I hate how the AMOLED screen looks (It's bright, vibrant, but has a strong color shift). G2x's color is more comfortable to my eyes (pure personal preference here).
For the price, g2x is great
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My fiance has the Amaze, and while she seems to love it, she HATES the battery life. It's pretty abysmal. She's a very light user and she's charging it every day, minimum, even when it's just sitting on the counter not being used. If she does decide to use it the battery life dips down to 2-6 hours at absolute best even with 2G/low brightness/etc etc. It's a very battery hungry phone and there is absolutely no way to get S-OFF on it atm, which for me is a complete turn off for an HTC device.
Also, her phone loses signal in a lot more places than I do.
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Alright, I'll be sure to keep that in mind. I think I'll be getting this phone though, you all have made it seem great haha.
But how is the radio in this phone? Because like I said earlier, my brother has a G2 and would get full bars in places where I would have no service
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With my Sensation, I'd get one bar service and sometimes 3G at my house; I get three bars + 3G minimum with this one. Much better.
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With my Sensation, I'd get one bar service and sometimes 3G at my house; I get three bars + 3G minimum with this one. Much better.
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Awesome! Next week then, I should be joining this community
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I'll throw my opinion out there. For a T-Mobile phone (not counting the $750 GSM galaxy nexus, only phones you can get through T-Mobile) this phone might take a back seat to the amaze (I have no experience with that one, so couldn't say). But I've had both the sensation and sgs2 and g2x beats them both performance wise. Sgs2 did have the best battery life though.
Of course there's also the size issue, I really don't like my phone being bigger than a 4inch, yet it seems like all the manufacturers are forgetting about people like me, I mean come on if I wanted a tablet I'd buy a tablet!
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Galaxy S4... And others.... a bit.... meh?

This is likely to be first time in 7 years i haven't upgraded my phone upon a handset refresh.
I'm a terrible phone whore with very little loyalty to brand, i like to own the best phone of the moment and hop between manufacturers. I'd imagine most people on here do the same, with the exception of the insanely irreverent fanboys. Recently (Last 2 years) i've owned.. S2, iPhone 4S, S3, HTC One X and Nexus 4. (Also throw in a couple of dips to Sony and Windows Mobile for brief periods).
First of all, the S4 and the HTC One look like cracking devices. In my eyes they both have positives and negatives and if push came to shove and somebody forced me by gunpoint to pick one, i'd be hard pressed to make a decision.. Perhaps S4 but only because of the battery life and timely updates.. There really is little in it.. Anyone who thinks so is only splitting hairs.
If you're sat using an S2 or a mobile a good 2 years old i can truly appreciate what a jump that the S4 or HTC One to be for you. But if you're the kind of person who upgrades over a 12 month period, there really is little to excite at the moment.
I can't help but feel disappointing..
CPU:
This is the most frustrating topic... We've been steadily increasing in power with little gains in power management, Nvidia tried their best with that '5th core' but ultimately left us all wanting... I'd say the biggest single concern for most smartphone users is battery life now, struggling to make it through a heavy day is part and parcel of owning a mobile.
We are so very close to big.LITTLE kicking in and it seems to be that Samsung and HTC kicked off a little early, shown by the (almost complete) lack of availability of their Exynos variant..
If i bought the S4 or HTC One i'd feel almost cheated if the rumored battery performance of the upcoming CPUs in this segment are anything to go by.
Screen:
Mobile phone addiction aside, one of my other rather 'nerdy' fascination is with audio visual kit, much to my wifes misery.. Screen quality is undoubtedly a big thing for me, yet even i struggle to justify the move from a 720p resolution to a 1080p resolution on a screen only 4.7-5" big..
I've seen the HTC One in person and while i will confess at close proximity i can distinguish the difference, it is by no means the jump the market departments of said companies would like you to think.. I'd go as far to say that most (myself included) would struggle to notice the difference between the two during regular daily use.
LTE:
This is less the mobile manufacturers fault and more the networks but 4G coverage is absolutely woeful when you consider the mass rollout of hardware to utilize. I always thought the S3 LTE was pointless but was convinced this was the early warning sign the governments / networks needed to shift into gear, it doesn't appear to have happened. It's like giving everybody a Bugatti Veyron and telling them they're only allowed to drive it in speed limited residential areas..
I've got friends in the states and U.K and despite the rather gut-wrenching price they pay for LTE price plans, the performance seems poor. I do think we are a good year away from 4G being a realistic benefit to the average consumer, with small pockets of countries experiencing early gains if they live in the capital.
The only positive i can take away from all this is my other half does not have to watch me trawl through reviews, debate the best deal and then watch me giddy on the day of delivery...
Here's hopping next year is a little better!
Have to agree with this, nothing special so far
@OP ( dont wanna quote the whole post lol), trust me when i say that i am one of the biggest phone junkies around, i owned almost all of the flagship of 2012 and plan on owning quite a few in 2013. I see what you're saying when you say " meh" cause phones like the nexus 4, S3, Optimus G and note 2 are already mighty powerful but i think this is where samsung and HTC lead the pack and differentiate themselves with other brands. HTC came out with the best design a phone ever had ( in my opinion) and fantastic sound quality while samsung is expanding its crazy awesome features ( gimmicky for some, absolutely great for me). Its hard to outdo the great phones that came out last year so my question is what did you expect?
I think you need to find more hobbies/occupations in your life tbh.
But to be honest, we are at a point where technology, and especially phones are improving at a very systematical and incremental ways.
Slightly better processor
Slightly better camera
Slightly better screen
Slightly better battery
Really, we will be stuck on this pattern until something revolutionary comes into the mobile market.
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But to be honest, we are at a point where technology, and especially phones are improving at a very systematical and incremental ways.
Slightly better processor
Slightly better camera
Slightly better screen
Slightly better battery
Really, we will be stuck on this pattern until something revolutionary comes into the mobile market.
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Yeah, but with all that, there's a lot that's looked over. Like if you have a Samsung Smart TV you can stream what is on your TV to your phoen anywhere you go.
We now have a IR controller with a built in TV Guide. Built in reminder to remind you also. Links to Rotten Tomatoes for movies.
There's a lot more. I just don't know what is revolutionary anymore. The problem is other technology has to catch up, like TVs, Amplifiers and audio receivers, car GPS, etc. The only thing the phone can do now is control and interact with other things.
What can honestly be revolutionary with current technology and our phones now?
How about work on voice call clarity. This quality has been the same Damn thing since the nokia brick phones lol
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How about work on voice call clarity. This quality has been the same Damn thing since the nokia brick phones lol
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The thing is in a day I make max 20 min call time but day in day out 4+hours screen time, iyam this is the norm so this dictates developments, so I bet we get stuck with ok call quality.
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The thing is in a day I make max 20 min call time but day in day out 4+hours screen time, iyam this is the norm so this dictates developments, so I bet we get stuck with ok call quality.
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20 min the norm? Speak for yourself.
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20 min the norm? Speak for yourself.
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I know but how about getting a different phone if your prime use is phoning, like a 2g that'll give you 2/3 days, or if you're making calls while indoors plug it in or use a land line, flagship smartphones are computing devices not really phones any more.
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This is likely to be first time in 7 years i haven't upgraded my phone upon a handset refresh.
I'm a terrible phone whore with very little loyalty to brand...!
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While I agree that the upgrades in the GS4 are barely a full generation ahead of the GS3, which is unfortunate given how much a jump the GS2 was over the GS1, and how much the GS1 was ahead of anything else at its time... there is a sort-of point about diminishing returns here as well. It's harder to "improve" certain aspects but so much, as we're beginning to hit the limits of what can even be perceived as an upgrade.
I mean, think about the screen. Very low res -> QVGA -> WVGA -> 720p -> 1080p. Well that's great, but for the next generation, where do you go? There's really no perceivable need to put anything higher into a sub 5" device. Maybe flexible screens? Unbreakable screens? etc etc? That's still not gonna actually increase the photonic information presented to your eyes from the device.
Or take the physical phone body. The GS4 is pushing the screen so far that it's easily covering 80-90% of the entire front surface area. So okay, next gen, you make the entire front surface a screen. Then what? Make the phone thinner? Well, at a certain point you hit a limit there as well. People can only grasp and comfortably hold objects of up to a certain depth. When you get it smaller than that, you're basically just printing a screen onto a knife blade. So that's no good...
Let's try connectivity. LTE and 802.11ac? Most cell networks couldn't saturate their LTE links if they tried, they simply don't have the capacity yet. And even if they did... You're telling me you can even find a use-case where your phone is pumping out/in 100+ mbit/s of data? I mean, at home it's nice to move music/videos/files around sure. But I highly doubt anyone is routinely moving gigabytes of data per hour on any sort of mobile device. Once you hit what you need for say HD video streaming... where else is there to go? Again, the next generation doesn't really need to move data any faster than this.
Sensors? Well, there's actually lots of room for improvement here. And also, un-coincidentally, this is where the GS4 has some the of greatest advantage over other current/last generation devices. While we're still pretty far away from a proper tricorder, we can now sense via magnetometer, accelerometer, gyroscope, light sensor, infrared sensor, microphones, thermometer, hydrometer, barometer, and two cameras... But building sensors isn't the hard part. It's building clever software to do something with these sensors.
I could go on further... but the point I should think is clear. Yea, it's a bit disappointing that nothing since the original GS1/GS2 has really been a full "generation and a half" ahead of the competition... but a large portion of that is simply because we're beginning to hit the ceiling with some of these improvements. Yea, in 20 years "phones" will be unpredictably evolved from what we have now. But I bet the screens still won't have any higher effective PPI than what we're approaching now...
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posting to hit 10 posts so I can actually post in development section....wth.....
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Wrong and wrong.
1) There's a reason you need to post elsewhere first.
2) The fact that you say "what the hell" to that requirement further shows you are not yet ready to post in development.
3) Spamming random unrelated comments into random threads is not the way to reach the 10 post minimum
I suggest you start by reading the rules and the stickies.
Have a nice day, and welcome to XDA.
Im only getting it becuase i wanted a smaller note 2 with no spen. The s4 gives me that with plenty of horsepower. Plus the 32gb $250 price point is a good sell. If the htc one had a replaceable battery it would of been a no brainer based on design alone.
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posting to hit 10 posts so I can actually post in development section....wth.....
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*Face palm* If there's one place where you never post something like that, it's XDA. The moderators here take people who break the rules pretty seriously.
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I wish we could have a revolutionary phone come out like the Galaxy SII did. Even today, Galaxy SII is unsurpassed with performance. Is there any app or game that it can't run? I mean, it came out nearly 2 years ago, and still has not been matched by an app.
I hope Galaxy SV comes in the way of the revolution.
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I know but how about getting a different phone if your prime use is phoning, like a 2g that'll give you 2/3 days, or if you're making calls while indoors plug it in or use a land line, flagship smartphones are computing devices not really phones any more.
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I never said my prime use is phone calls. I just said 20 min is not the norm. And again where do you get your information. No matter what phone whether it is a dumb phone or smart phone, one of the main focus of a phone period involves making phone calls. Otherwise it would be called a multimedia device and not a phone.
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I wish we could have a revolutionary phone come out like the Galaxy SII did. Even today, Galaxy SII is unsurpassed with performance. Is there any app or game that it can't run? I mean, it came out nearly 2 years ago, and still has not been matched by an app.
I hope Galaxy SV comes in the way of the revolution.
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Wait, what, lol!
Pretty sure the Gs1 started the trend there. Gs2 was nice, but nothing revolutionary.... The s3 was by far the best in the series thus far, until this one comes out.
With that said, I like my Note 2 more so than my s3.
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I think the Note series has been pretty revolutionary and Samsung has worked hard to come up with clever things to do with the stylus.
I don't know what big hardware improvements are left to do. The one I would like the most is 3-D capabilities, both screen and camera, like the Evo 3D. I would imagine in the last two years the technology has gotten better and Samsung could market it a lot better than HTC. Plus there is more 3D content than two years ago. Samsung could also do cool things with 3D and the hover technology.
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I never said my prime use is phone calls. I just said 20 min is not the norm. And again where do you get your information. No matter what phone whether it is a dumb phone or smart phone, one of the main focus of a phone period involves making phone calls. Otherwise it would be called a multimedia device and not a phone.
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Ah well tough break, I guess this phone isn't for you then.
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While I agree that the upgrades in the GS4 are barely a full generation ahead of the GS3, which is unfortunate given how much a jump the GS2 was over the GS1, and how much the GS1 was ahead of anything else at its time... there is a sort-of point about diminishing returns here as well. It's harder to "improve" certain aspects but so much, as we're beginning to hit the limits of what can even be perceived as an upgrade.
I mean, think about the screen. Very low res -> QVGA -> WVGA -> 720p -> 1080p. Well that's great, but for the next generation, where do you go? There's really no perceivable need to put anything higher into a sub 5" device. Maybe flexible screens? Unbreakable screens? etc etc? That's still not gonna actually increase the photonic information presented to your eyes from the device.
Or take the physical phone body. The GS4 is pushing the screen so far that it's easily covering 80-90% of the entire front surface area. So okay, next gen, you make the entire front surface a screen. Then what? Make the phone thinner? Well, at a certain point you hit a limit there as well. People can only grasp and comfortably hold objects of up to a certain depth. When you get it smaller than that, you're basically just printing a screen onto a knife blade. So that's no good...
Let's try connectivity. LTE and 802.11ac? Most cell networks couldn't saturate their LTE links if they tried, they simply don't have the capacity yet. And even if they did... You're telling me you can even find a use-case where your phone is pumping out/in 100+ mbit/s of data? I mean, at home it's nice to move music/videos/files around sure. But I highly doubt anyone is routinely moving gigabytes of data per hour on any sort of mobile device. Once you hit what you need for say HD video streaming... where else is there to go? Again, the next generation doesn't really need to move data any faster than this.
Sensors? Well, there's actually lots of room for improvement here. And also, un-coincidentally, this is where the GS4 has some the of greatest advantage over other current/last generation devices. While we're still pretty far away from a proper tricorder, we can now sense via magnetometer, accelerometer, gyroscope, light sensor, infrared sensor, microphones, thermometer, hydrometer, barometer, and two cameras... But building sensors isn't the hard part. It's building clever software to do something with these sensors.
I could go on further... but the point I should think is clear. Yea, it's a bit disappointing that nothing since the original GS1/GS2 has really been a full "generation and a half" ahead of the competition... but a large portion of that is simply because we're beginning to hit the ceiling with some of these improvements. Yea, in 20 years "phones" will be unpredictably evolved from what we have now. But I bet the screens still won't have any higher effective PPI than what we're approaching now...
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I have to disagree about LTE. That 100mbs conection is shared across possibly 100's of users and it does not take alot to bring it down to it's knees.
Video of sub 500kbs LTE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-VVwPqhXwI
That and really 2,3,4,5,10 GB is not really that much data if you plan using the LTE speeds fully. If I didn't have a unlimited plan, my bill would be higher in a month than what my phone cost.
I will say your right about the screen 1080p is good, well really for most 720p does the trick. ( I can still see the dot's on a 720p 4.3in screen though, but most can't.)

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