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[Q] ASOP Sidekick 4G ROM? - T-Mobile Sidekick 4G

Am I the only one who is unhappy with the slim pickings of ROMs that are available for the SK4G?
Does anyone know anything about an ASOP ROM?

It's AOSP (Android Open Source Project) and you're not the only one not happy with the current SK4G options. I personally want MIUI or CM7, but seeing as we're currently stuck with Froyo, we'll have to see what the devs can cook up.
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For future reference, questions go in the General forum, not the Development Forum.
As for AOSP or MIUI, I know that AyoTeddy and Revolution are currently working on separate MIUI roms, and for AOSP, I'm working on that, but not sure exactly what you want from AOSP that's different from what we have?
If you are unhappy with the selection of ROMS here, you are always welcome to make your own, android is open source for a reason.

sduvick said:
For future reference, questions go in the General forum, not the Development Forum.
As for AOSP or MIUI, I know that AyoTeddy and Revolution are currently working on separate MIUI roms, and for AOSP, I'm working on that, but not sure exactly what you want from AOSP that's different from what we have?
If you are unhappy with the selection of ROMS here, you are always welcome to make your own, android is open source for a reason.
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If they want the real miui we will need some sort of aosp gingerbread to start with and a custom CM7 kernel or something.. Since we dont have either yet I guess we'll have to make the best out of what we have now like we have been. But those wanting a taste of miui may like what I have planned for my next release.
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ayoteddy said:
If they want the real miui we will need some sort of aosp gingerbread to start with and a custom CM7 kernel or something.. Since we dont have either yet I guess we'll have to make the best out of what we have now like we have been. But those wanting a taste of miui may like what I have planned for my next release.
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And so anticipation had set in, i can't wait ayoteddy. im very excited. SMX was great, and SMGC was awesome, and now with this? whewwww. think i better go lay down, lol.

I'm also interested in porting CM7 to Sk4g cause I'm used to when I had G1 and now I'm using Sk4g without it.
I have programming skill and understanding of linux architecture. I've read about android architecture and AOSP and how to build Cyanogen from source. I'm running a tech firm (about 30 employees) - we are developing games that's why I don't have enough time to port it faster but I'm going to do it in a month or two.
So, I need help from experienced dev for android who is willing to build AOSP rom for Sk4g.
Here is what I'm going to do:
1) I'm gonna try to build Kd1 rom from source (there is an opensource code from samsung) and flash it to my Sk4g
2) Change the platform in original source to AOSP 2.2 and remove all TMOBILE apps - then build and flash
3) I'll try to find all hardware specs of the phone to compare with other samsung devices. It can help to exctract proprietary drivers of the phone. I think that the drivers are commonly the same, but I need to identify it.
After that I'm gonna upgrade to AOSP 2.3 but I don't have enough knowledge right now. Can some experienced devs answer the questions:
1) Are the linux kernels of AOSP 2.2 and 2.3 identical?
2) Can I use device drivers from 2.2 on 2.3?
If someone is interested in this project - please let me know and let's start the job. I think that my progress wouldn't be fast due to lack of time.

Thank you for joining the Sidekick 4G section , & we welcome you but if you want you could pause the game's for the ROM if anything & Question 1 is a no & Question 2 no cause they have to be compiled with the 2.3 kernel .
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jmpz said:
I'm also interested in porting CM7 to Sk4g cause I'm used to when I had G1 and now I'm using Sk4g without it.
I have programming skill and understanding of linux architecture. I've read about android architecture and AOSP and how to build Cyanogen from source. I'm running a tech firm (about 30 employees) - we are developing games that's why I don't have enough time to port it faster but I'm going to do it in a month or two.
So, I need help from experienced dev for android who is willing to build AOSP rom for Sk4g.
Here is what I'm going to do:
1) I'm gonna try to build Kd1 rom from source (there is an opensource code from samsung) and flash it to my Sk4g
2) Change the platform in original source to AOSP 2.2 and remove all TMOBILE apps - then build and flash
3) I'll try to find all hardware specs of the phone to compare with other samsung devices. It can help to exctract proprietary drivers of the phone. I think that the drivers are commonly the same, but I need to identify it.
After that I'm gonna upgrade to AOSP 2.3 but I don't have enough knowledge right now. Can some experienced devs answer the questions:
1) Are the linux kernels of AOSP 2.2 and 2.3 identical?
2) Can I use device drivers from 2.2 on 2.3?
If someone is interested in this project - please let me know and let's start the job. I think that my progress wouldn't be fast due to lack of time.
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Revolution, thanks for relaying my responses.
jmpz, I tried building the source before, but was unable to build it completely, but that was possibly because of some errors with my dependencies. The kernel compiles fine from source, you just need to pull initramfs, or you can get it from Dr. Honk's github.

Thank you for your answers.
So, can anyone enumerate the list of drivers which we should extract from kernel?
I can name these:
1) Keyboard
2) Mic
3) 2 speakers
4) buttons
5) front camera
6) rear camera
7) trackpoint
8) lcd
9) digitizer
10) 3.5 jack
Please correct me and add missing
If I understanding it rightly the key problem is getting proprietary drivers from the kernel. Right?

nope, the key problem is trying to build the system entirely, without any errors, which may be easier with someone following a stock designed build environment. I don't use Ubuntu which is what has the listed dependencies for every tutorial I can find. You can get the drivers out of Dr. Honk's voodoo kernel ramdisk here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1145139
There shouldn't be any problems if you just set up a build environment following the directions in any of the tutorials, then add the platform from the samsung source.

I'm a linuxoid - so these tutorial are for me. Thank you for the link.
By the way, drivers are in Linux Kernel, so I don't think that I need to use Samsung Platform from the source. Instead I wanna use platform from AOSP or Cyanogen. Correct me if I'm wrong.
I think that grabbing drivers from kernel source from samsung would be enough to build the rom.

jmpz said:
I'm also interested in porting CM7 to Sk4g cause I'm used to when I had G1 and now I'm using Sk4g without it.
I have programming skill and understanding of linux architecture. I've read about android architecture and AOSP and how to build Cyanogen from source. I'm running a tech firm (about 30 employees) - we are developing games that's why I don't have enough time to port it faster but I'm going to do it in a month or two.
So, I need help from experienced dev for android who is willing to build AOSP rom for Sk4g.
Here is what I'm going to do:
1) I'm gonna try to build Kd1 rom from source (there is an opensource code from samsung) and flash it to my Sk4g
2) Change the platform in original source to AOSP 2.2 and remove all TMOBILE apps - then build and flash
3) I'll try to find all hardware specs of the phone to compare with other samsung devices. It can help to exctract proprietary drivers of the phone. I think that the drivers are commonly the same, but I need to identify it.
After that I'm gonna upgrade to AOSP 2.3 but I don't have enough knowledge right now. Can some experienced devs answer the questions:
1) Are the linux kernels of AOSP 2.2 and 2.3 identical?
2) Can I use device drivers from 2.2 on 2.3?
If someone is interested in this project - please let me know and let's start the job. I think that my progress wouldn't be fast due to lack of time.
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I 100% support your efforts. I want Cyanogen on the SK4G badly, but I'm not sure what kind of help a non-programmer like me could do, but do have some experience with flashing phones and such, so if there is anything you need let me know.
If you do get rolling heavily on this, I'd be willing to donate monetarily to your efforts.

If anyone can get CyanogenMod 7 on the Sidekick they would definetely get a donation from me. Id be thrilled. Glad to see its going to be worked on.
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Still an Android noob but i may get the Captivate but can you get stock android 2.1 in a ROM or is that impossible?

champ0497 said:
Still an Android noob but i may get the Captivate but can you get stock android 2.1 in a ROM or is that impossible?
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I was a noob a few weeks ago so I will give you some advice:
Read all you can first, then reread stuff all over again. Development Forum is a good place to start.
"Stock" android always has extras - device drivers for a phone, kernel enhancements, etc. If you are looking for a build without AT&T stuff, then there are some i9000 Roms, that can be installed, but you need to install the Captivate kernel. All of these are development builds and have some bugs. They also are for the EU Galaxy, and they have different Samsung software included as well as different menus.
There are guys working on building a plain vanilla 2.1 ROM with the source code, but it will take some time.

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I haven't posted much, but I've spent a lot of time on these forums and flashed a few custom roms on my captivate as well. I'm a final-year computer science student and now I want to jump into the android source code.
I have some operating systems experience, I took the OS class at my university and ended up with a C (more due to external factors than the difficulty of the course).
Does anyone have any tips on where to start or how to make sense of the very large source distribution? I installed ubuntu, set up my repo, and downloaded the AOSP FroYo and Gingerbread sources. I think that, for my first project, as a way to learn about what goes into making a ROM, I want to post the AOSP FroYo source to the captivate and just have a pure AOSP build running on my phone. Can anyone point me to some resources or information to help me get started?
Thanks a lot!

how to create ROMs - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=928955
and I think someone is already working on AOSP froyo - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=951653

Actually I meant more like resources about how the android source is laid out, which source files to edit to make a custom rom, which source files control which parts of the phone, etc. I've already seen the guide you linked to putting together a custom ROM.
And even if someone is working on AOSP Froyo, I want to do this to learn about how the Android OS works so that I can go on to developing better ROMs

I am building an aosp ROM for the galaxy player 5.0 as an independent study at my school. I have the stock kernel for it that I extracted out of an odin image and I was wondering, do I have to build aosp around the kernel because I heard aosp kernels aren't good with the drivers and I need every function to work. I have found many tutorials for aosp and I am not going to use Googles since I can't understand that as much as other ones on the internet. Can someone enlighten me on the subject so I'm not going to fail, its due by january and I am still on the fence about whether I can do this. I just need some guidance and not to have somebody do it for me.

So, on a whim I decided to download and peruse the Update1 ICS sources for the T989. This turned out to be interesting because it seems there are more things in the Update1 sources for the APEX40 architecture than there were in the first T989 ICS sources. There's stuff in there that I had to hack into the original sources (poorly, cuz it didn't work)...
Any other devs take a look at this and try hacking a build out of it?
I might give it a run this weekend. At the very least it's a sign that there's been progress... and it would seem that the samsung devs are also basing the both devices on the same codebase.
That's also a good sign that the JB release will have some support for us as well. The biggest issue would be the cam drivers...

dr4stic said:
So, on a whim I decided to download and peruse the Update1 ICS sources for the T989. This turned out to be interesting because it seems there are more things in the Update1 sources for the APEX40 architecture than there were in the first T989 ICS sources. There's stuff in there that I had to hack into the original sources (poorly, cuz it didn't work)...
Any other devs take a look at this and try hacking a build out of it?
I might give it a run this weekend. At the very least it's a sign that there's been progress... and it would seem that the samsung devs are also basing the both devices on the same codebase.
That's also a good sign that the JB release will have some support for us as well. The biggest issue would be the cam drivers...
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I'll take a look at it and see if the required drivers are in the kernel. If they are, I think the 989 kernel may boot with the correct kernel settings.
I do have a contact who's been working on the framework for ICS but needs a kernel.

Hey guys, I have been looking for a jb miui ROM for this device and i cant find one, i know there are some ics miui ROMs, but i would really like a jb miui ROM.
There is one for the vibrant, can I use it for my Galaxy s 4G or can anyone port it to our device?
Vibrant MIUI JB ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2289234
Thanks

i'll build it when miui comes out with miui 4.2

airfluip1 said:
i'll build it when miui comes out with miui 4.2
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Thank you i will be looking forward to it.

Beast said he would do it.
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that's been in my queue for a while along with aokp aries and paranoid android.

airfluip1 said:
i'll build it when miui comes out with miui 4.2
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2313073

Just because there are some homebrew ports doesn't mean that MIUI is 4.2 yet.
http://en.miui.com/download.html
Official Downloads
Author : MIUI Developer Team
Kernel : Android 4.1
Latest update : 3.6.21
Download : http://www.miui.com/download.html
Language : Chinese and English
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Why does it matter ? We use unofficial ROMs anyway...
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That's like saying that since a car, airplane, and weed-whacker all run on gas, you should just put the same stuff in each. Actually, the unofficial ROMS is a more tenuous connection than my gas connection. It's more like saying that since a bullet train, horse, and diesel bus all run on fuel, the fuel which goes into each shouldn't matter. It's all fuel.
Hey, you could (please don't) use an unofficial Vibrant ROM too. That's unofficial. What's the difference? The difference is that it won't work. And might brick your phone. That's bad.
Our only current Aries kernel is 4.2.2 and still has issues. MIUI is still 4.1.2 and would introduce an entirely new set of issues tied into GPS, Bluetooth, and so forth if/when a 4.1.2 Aries kernel was compiled. Does that make it impossible? No. But it means that as the build impetus - when MIUI is 4.2 - has not happened yet... it's not a great use of time yet. Unless one of the devs wants it. In which case, MIUI being not-updated is something they don't need to be hammered over the head with.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2313073
4.2.2?

Port. If YOU see source linked from that page so our devs could actually do something useful to build that...

Hi Theraze
I have to disagree with you.
Port is not a dirty word and most of our ROMs are actually ports and not built from source. Furthermore, MIUI ROM is usually ported and not built from source and only recently did Xiaomi open their sources for the public. Even more than that, both MIUI versions brought to us by Beast were ports from Nexus and not built from source.
Now, regarding the incompatibility between kernel & OS - if it works on Nexus, I assume the adjustments were made, so one can enjoy both 4.2.2 & MIUI benefits. There is no logical reason why it couldn't be ported to our beloved device.
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I'm not saying it can't be done. I'm saying that our build-from-source dev who asked you to let him know when it hit 4.2 hasn't had his request met.
Does that mean that someone (him or another dev) CAN'T port it? Nope. But it makes it a lot less likely that air can just pull the source in and compile it using the Aries bits if the buildable MIUI is still only 4.1.2 and our Aries is 4.2.2 instead.
Again, I think we're agreeing on the general bits... yes, this is possible. But airfluip1 asked to be notified when buildable MIUI was 4.2.2 and that's when he said he'd build it. Not port it.

I don't care if a ROM is ported or built from source.
I will try to play with porting it myself.