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Got a TBolt off ebay....but it's an unbranded developer's phone!?

So, I got 2 TBolts off ebay with cracked screens for $245 (total, for the pair). Figured it was a good buy since I could replace the screens myself for fairly cheap, then sell one and keep one. I get them, and I notice that there's no VZW branding anywhere on one of the phones. I boot it into bootloader and it says "S-Off", whereas the VZW branded on says "S-On". Did some quick googling for "unbranded thunderbolt" and read this
(damn, ca't post links. Google for "unbranded thunderbolt" and click the first link to see pictures of the bootloader and phone that I'm referencing)
The bootloader screen pretty much matches what it says there.
So, here's my question...is this phone an extra-special one that I shouldn't mess with? Should I not replace the digitizer/screen with one that has a VZW brand on it? Should I resell it? I'm not a developer, so perhaps it better served in the hands of a developer? I'm really not sure what I should do with it, but I figure that you guys might have an idea.
(looooong time lurker [since WM 6.1] first time poster)

what is the hboot number? if it is 1.04.2000 eng s-off then prolly it is a device that someone has previously rooted. if the hboot is the 0.95.0000 the it prolly is an unbrnaded test phone.
its kinda neat to have foound such a thing,maybe worth some searching to see if all 0.95s were s-off,or just some. if only some came that way,id try and find a way to pull the hboot image off the phone so youd have it to put back if you ever wanted to.
if all 0.95s were s-off,maybe its not such a big deal.
at any rate,theres really not much special about it other than that,and its not worth any extra $$. id fix it and take advantage of the s-off to flash shadomites permanent patched hboot,wich is all around better.
the 0.95 is not an engineering hboot,just an unlocked phone used by pr-release testers.

The only other thing I could think of is it has some cool development/debugging apps on it if it is in fact a pre-release phone. Although I think a few of our devs already had their hands on some pre production test units before the phone was released. So it might be a kinda moot point now but don't take my word for it LOL.
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Damn scotty your full of knowledge...
To the OP I think that was a cool score getting an unbranded developers phone

Here at xda u need to show proof. I'm curious about this
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Or someone rooted them and replaced the digitizer/screen with an unbranded one.
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I'll put up some pics when I get back in town on Sunday. Everything looked different about it, even theone MEID didn't match a 'normal' vzw one...although trying to make a call let to a vzw message saying that the call could not be completed.
More info in a few days! This thing has me very curious....

Interesting find if true

curious if verizon will give you a 4g sim for it. Though not sure why they wouldn't.

Not back to my place yet, but I did pull out the SIM tray when I was looking at it on friday....and there was a SIM already in there. Completely unbranded. No VZW or other markings on it.

xXJay_RXx said:
Here at xda u need to show proof. I'm curious about this
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how do you figure,he doesn't have to show you anything, you could ask if he would bur you ain't entitled to anything!
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HERE BE PICS!
Here are a few embedded pics.
(no VZW branding, and the MEID is 1 short of a normal VZW MEID)
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(S-OFF)
(Weird solid white SIM)
And the whole album
http://imgur.com/a/HbC2F
Any ideas what I have here? I'm probably just going to ebay it, but I want to know what it is that I'm selling before I sell it.

I would be curious to know about that sim card but I don't think I can be of much help.
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thats weird it says with htc sense, mine says google.

Ya, it's just kinda weird. The branding is all different.
I also noticed a "Tell HTC" options under the "About Phone" part of the settings. Here's a pic
(unbranded on left, VZW one on right)
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Also, neither one of them have active accounts, yet the unbranded one still shows a 1X connection and can (slowly) browse the web. Weird...

tell htc something lol

Didn't the phone have "with htcsense" on the info pages on best buy's old online advertisement and ces? Then changed to "with google"?

satseaker said:
how do you figure,he doesn't have to show you anything, you could ask if he would bur you ain't entitled to anything!
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Lmao u mad bro? Don't be getting all mad at me when you're on your period homie. I was saying it in a polite way. No way did I mean it rude. Now mind ya business n keep moving
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Haha that's cool. Wow you're lucky I'll trade u phones
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I am going to write your telephone number all over public restroom walls across new york "For a good time call mooglepimp, he'll do what she wont and then some"

What should I do now with my crappy?

Well I upgraded to the sgsII. But I have mixed feelings about what to do with my trusty cappy. No one in my family wants it and none of my friends around here have atnt...
I dont know if I should sell it or keep it as a backup. It seems like just a waste to leave it sitting around in the box. Besides it's basically a brand new phone (2 week old 11.02 built/refurb) Never has been messed with. (Roms) No blemishes or marks at all. No sleep death or gps issues. I just got it replaced due to a crappy gps.
Should I be able to get at least $200 for it if I got the ebay route? I have everything it came with plus a otter box commuter.

ebay the puppy or donate it to a DEV .;-)

Donate it to LOSTLOGIC89!!
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Stevenrogers_420 said:
Donate it to LOSTLOGIC89!!
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+1...especially with DG moving away from the Captivate.

Lostlogic89 needs one
Currently Pinnacle 1.2 and have never been happier

I concur,,if you can afford to do so donate to lostlogic89,,those of staying with the captivate for a while longer would probably all appreciate it

Stevenrogers_420 said:
Donate it to LOSTLOGIC89!!
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+1 on this one!!
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That would be great if possible .
It will cut me si much extra work .

NascarFastcar said:
Well I upgraded to the sgsII. But I have mixed feelings about what to do with my trusty cappy. No one in my family wants it and none of my friends around here have atnt...
I dont know if I should sell it or keep it as a backup. It seems like just a waste to leave it sitting around in the box. Besides it's basically a brand new phone (2 week old 11.02 built/refurb) Never has been messed with. (Roms) No blemishes or marks at all. No sleep death or gps issues. I just got it replaced due to a crappy gps.
Should I be able to get at least $200 for it if I got the ebay route? I have everything it came with plus a otter box commuter.
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Does it mean they fixed GPS issues in newer/refurb captivates? Could you confirm what build is safe, or what to look for? I might pick one up for mom.

same situations except mines is older. mine just sits on my desk. thinking about using it like an ipod touch or something. how much would this go for anyway if we were to sell? no one has answered that except to give it to them for free.

flytronix said:
same situations except mines is older. mine just sits on my desk. thinking about using it like an ipod touch or something. how much would this go for anyway if we were to sell? no one has answered that except to give it to them for free.
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Sorry man they run around 150-200ish. Yours with case prolly 180. Wasn't stallin or beggin just figured you could checkout ebay and craigslist yourself to find out what they are selling for.
Steve

sides most of us was suggesting someone we have no personal contact with or knowledge of other than the excellent work done to make the captivate a better phone,,and done without one

ebay is your best bet.

You can mail it to watsa so he can keep developing captivate roms
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Sell it
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sumeet909 said:
Does it mean they fixed GPS issues in newer/refurb captivates? Could you confirm what build is safe, or what to look for? I might pick one up for mom.
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Ive been really busy.
Heres the gps stock. Just gps test installed to do this test. Not wifi/network so its a true gps test.
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It's a refurb that I got 2 weeks before this posting. 10.12 built.
Ive been trying ebay with a $200 buy it now. comes with everything, and a otterbox commuter etc.
Only people that seem to be bidding are from Russia, Ukrian. They have fake ebay accounts with us address but they cannot checkout thru a non us paypal. It' seems to be a 99% scam. I might post it here in the market if this continues to happen. I hate it. I even have like size 7 font in red telling them not to bid etc lol

I would really love to see a developer that makes a media player rom. Basically what I'm thinking of is an ipod touch like u.i. so I can keep my cappy around as an awesome storage device/mp3 player/wifi only browser after my upgrade.
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capocaccia said:
I would really love to see a developer that makes a media player rom. Basically what I'm thinking of is an ipod touch like u.i. so I can keep my cappy around as an awesome storage device/mp3 player/wifi only browser after my upgrade.
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There is a thread somewhere that does that very thing. I think it was called Captivate Touch.

Just give it to LOSTLOGIC. All in favor?

talk to josh from mobile tech videos. he was looking for a captivate a while back to do videos with. im sure you guys could come to some kind of agreement.

Holy moly

I just got a Captivate about 3 days ago, and WOW I LOVE IT!! My friend/brother got it from his real brother (they traded stuff) and I traded him a 4GB DDR3 stick of ram that you can get on newegg for $20 . I thought this thing wouldn't be able to do up to date gaming and stuff AND I thought that there wouldn't be able to do alot of rooting/installing custom roms etc..... but wow was I wrong. This thing has alot of choices available to it for roms, and I can play games like Real Racing 2 easily . I'm also glad to have an android device period to finally have a portable linux device and a pmp (which is what I wanted an android device for) that supports FLAC. All In All this thing ROCKS! I never thought a phone through at&t even if its made by samsung would be this badass

Cool story bro...
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Untill you start having random shut downs or want to use gps or your speaker stops working
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artvandalay22222 said:
Untill you start having random shut downs or want to use gps or your speaker stops working
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You do know that some people never experienced any of these.

Captain_Nero said:
You do know that some people never experienced any of these.
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Agree, though my issues (random shutdowns, bad GPS locks) disappeared after I went with a 2.3 rom.
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Captain_Nero said:
You do know that some people never experienced any of these.
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Like me lol, I just used my GPS to get to a friends house (he recently moved there) and had no issues . Speakers work beautifully and everything else is ever so amazing. I have had boot loops and whatnot... but I'm still fairly rusty/new to installing custom roms. I only have CM7 atm because it was a REALLY easy tutorial to follow on the wiki

Lol. Im on my fourth captivate. Traded 3 in under warranty. 2 for gps(gave up on that), 1 for random shutdowns, and if this one was under warranty, I'd replace it because the speaker goes in and out.
I guess some people are lucky. Or maybe I'm just really unlucky.
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artvandalay22222 said:
Untill you start having random shut downs or want to use gps or your speaker stops working
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I've had mine over a year and the only problem I've had was my speaker quit working but they are only $25 and so I bought a new one. No random shut down, no freezes, nothing.

Yup, captivate is awesome! I've had mine since 2010 and it performs beautifully. I honestly think I could go 1-2 more years with it before getting a new phone. Always took good care of it so I have no issues since I acquired it.

PotatoJ said:
Yup, captivate is awesome! I've had mine since 2010 and it performs beautifully. I honestly think I could go 1-2 more years with it before getting a new phone. Always took good care of it so I have no issues since I acquired it.
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Oh yeah. My contract is up in June. Once a good stable version of ICS is available from the devs, I probably won't go after a new phone for a while and save my upgrade until a quad core phone comes out.

Skoffer said:
Oh yeah. My contract is up in June. Once a good stable version of ICS is available from the devs, I probably won't go after a new phone for a while and save my upgrade until a quad core phone comes out.
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Ya it is amazing , I'm rocking ICS with glitch and I can tell you that its really nice. I don't use my cappy as a phone, kinda dont... I use G.Voice here n there, but likek 99% as a PMP so I don't know how perfect the phone features work, but everything else is amazing. I have this thing OC'd to 1.52GHz and its so amazing!!

mine can go to 1.86GHz haha I rule the cappies!

artvandalay22222 said:
Untill you start having random shut downs or want to use gps or your speaker stops working
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The only random shut downs on my Captivate have been kernel related, my GPS has always worked as well as any Captivate GPS works (wonky at best, but functional), and I've never had my speaker stop working. As b-eock said, not everyone has the issues some have, you also have to keep in mind that forums attract people with problems - there are many more out there walking around in the world with Captivates in their pockets that work just fine.

Google Running Home Testing

Google through some company named GfK, have sent me some random letter to my house saying I have been randomly chosen to participate in random testing concerning the way I use TV, Smart phones, Computers and tablets with benefits and a tiny little payout..They also included a REAL $2 bill as "incentive" I guess. They don't know that I own any of this so I assume they "maybe" would be sending me these things. (I already own 2 Xooms, A Kindle Fire, 2 laptops and 5 Android smartphones but how would they KNOW this?). Just kinda odd and random I guess.
Anyone else got one of these or can provide me with more details as to what it is? has anyone here ever done one of these and what is it? i'm uncomfortable with it because it was random. So I thought I'd ask my homies here on XDA.
I did Google and find this too. http://www.google.com/landing/screenwisepanel/
I attached a copy of the letter.
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Nevermind.... http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/08/google-screenwise-panel-pays-to-track-browsing
Is is a good idea though or no?

Hey Freshly_Snipes, this is a interesting little letter you have received. I am going to keep up with this thread, please keep us all up to date with what becomes of this.

Sucks we can't sign up to get the black box anymore, cause that would of been perfect. Honestly, unless you're a terrorist, child pervert/sexual predator. There is no reason not to sign up.

Not sure how one gets on these lists, but I have gotten letters like this from time to time for other tech companies (usually they come with a $5 bill, lol). They are legit but usually require more effort than their merger pay out is worth. You must track and report a lot of info (sometimes you even allow them to do the tracking via certain devices), giving out a lot of private data in the process and spending a bit of time to do it. I usually pocket the $5 (in this case apparently its $2) and move on with my life.

Hgaara said:
Sucks we can't sign up to get the black box anymore, cause that would of been perfect. Honestly, unless you're a terrorist, child pervert/sexual predator. There is no reason not to sign up.
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Why can't I get the black box???
I think I am going to try it out and if I don't feel comfortable or it becomes to tedious I'll just stop. I hope they don't "force me" to stay reporting if I choose to.

Freshly_Snipes said:
Why can't I get the black box???
I think I am going to try it out and if I don't feel comfortable or it becomes to tedious I'll just stop. I hope they don't "force me" to stay reporting if I choose to.
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I think only the first 2500 had that option.
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Looks like Google is serious... Look what I got in the mail today. Lol
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Hgaara said:
Sucks we can't sign up to get the black box anymore, cause that would of been perfect. Honestly, unless you're a terrorist, child pervert/sexual predator. There is no reason not to sign up.
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I can get the black box. They just offered it to me in the letter. Then i install a app on all smart phones and tablets and each television.
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Lol, see I told ya they usually send a $5 spot. Are you going to participate or just pocket the $5?

Behold_this said:
Lol, see I told ya they usually send a $5 spot. Are you going to participate or just pocket the $5?
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I'm participating. That 100 bucks sounds great. Fairly simple too. I'm doing the black box and all my tablets and phones, for an additional $5 each.. My wife is excited too lol
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WOOOOW look what Google just sent me! 3 new 5 inch Galaxy players... Wtf?
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Dayummm how much do those retail for?
whyd you get them I thooght they just paid you lol
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yahhboy said:
Dayummm how much do those retail for?
whyd you get them I thooght they just paid you lol
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Well they said I'd be receiving several gifts along with payments. My daughter is screaming when I gave it to her. My wife thinks it's "fugly".. Lol.. Idk wtf to do with mine. I have a Sensation 4G and a Xoom.. Lol.. Guess I'll take this one jogging with me in the mornings.
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I wish I was lucky enough to get signed up on Googles tester list. You are one lucky guy man. As for what to do with the player, I would use it for a development device.

Thats just awesome man! Glad you got chosen! I am a trender so I only get the gift cards lol.

Nice! Wish I was that lucky!..........
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i heard about that company they did the nokia incentive over here for years, and they did send out the latest phone, i wonder if they are doing the same thing over here if i find any information regarding this scheme in the United Kingdom i would definately put the link up

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Thats just awesome man! Glad you got chosen! I am a trender so I only get the gift cards lol.
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My daughter is going ape sh*t over this Galaxy Player. Lol... My wife says it's too big (pause lol)... I'm guessing it's time to root one of em. And I got $100 bucks today in the mail. This sh*t keeps getting better. Glad I don't have to do anything extra besides click the TV tans when I'm watching Television and when i leave the room. Just hard to remember.
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My daughter is going ape sh*t over this Galaxy Player. Lol... My wife says it's too big (pause lol)... I'm guessing it's time to root one of em. And I got $100 bucks today in the mail. This sh*t keeps getting better. Glad I don't have to do anything extra besides click the TV tans when I'm watching Television and when i leave the room. Just hard to remember.
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Hmmm, I just signed up for the screen wise panel myself. You can google it and sign up, it's really easy. I wonder if they'll send out a letter, etc.

darkwildchild79 said:
i heard about that company they did the nokia incentive over here for years, and they did send out the latest phone, i wonder if they are doing the same thing over here if i find any information regarding this scheme in the United Kingdom i would definately put the link up
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They still do it, I got a Lumia 800 in December.

Thinking of jumping ship....

Idk... I'm thinking of jumping ship in another 2 weeks.
Gonna jump from my G2X to a Sensation.. Idk... Maybe :|

Cool story bro, you have anything else to say? I'm not being a **** though why cause it has ICS now? Cause your g2x is a lemon?
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I've been thinking about this for a while now. I'm keeping my g2x until the new nexus phones come out, and then sticking to pure nexus phones from Google. I'm sick of waiting for venders and carriers to work together for releases, and I'm sick of crap that carriers add to phones which is useless and slows them down. I normally root my phone and install CM on it anyway, but with the g2x even that isn't a 100% working solution anymore.
By the way, I read that Google is releasing up to 5 different nexus phones from different vendors around Thanksgiving this year. I'd wait for that!
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Cool story bro, you have anything else to say? I'm not being a **** though why cause it has ICS now? Cause your g2x is a lemon?
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No, in fact if you search up my previous post, my G2X, is one of the few that has zero flaws.
I'm jumping ship because the Sensation has more Dev support. (Really a lot of dev) They recently got official CM9.

Dralanmage said:
I've been thinking about this for a while now. I'm keeping my g2x until the new nexus phones come out, and then sticking to pure nexus phones from Google. I'm sick of waiting for venders and carriers to work together for releases, and I'm sick of crap that carriers add to phones which is useless and slows them down. I normally root my phone and install CM on it anyway, but with the g2x even that isn't a 100% working solution anymore.
By the way, I read that Google is releasing up to 5 different nexus phones from different vendors around Thanksgiving this year. I'd wait for that!
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When the new Nexus phones come out, I'll watch for a price break on the Galaxy Nexus and probably pick one up.

You are being a ****. In every thread I read you got some smart-ass remark. I bet you never eff-up,huh? gtfo;-)
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deathknellx said:
You are being a ****. In every thread I read you got some smart-ass remark. I bet you never eff-up,huh? gtfo;-)
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I'm almost positive this was towards me, and well... ok. Maybe if people actually searched or didn't make retarded threads I wouldn't be, I help when help is needed (as in if someone searches and posts in an already created thread like these ones.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1449382
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342085
I searched for 10 seconds and found both of these. It's pointless to make a thread like this, especially with the OP's statement, does he want a cookie for wanting a sensation? Lastly OP my interest is not to stock what you have said in other threads, if you make a new thread make it worthwhile to read for the community, not something useless and informative.
Hey XDA I just had Chipotle, and added way too much Cholula to it.

If you're gonna jump ship, just do it.
The community for the G2x has been flawless, but I have seen the future, and I left it for the GS II. Man, they're a live one over there. Everyone's awesome and welcoming; a bit impatient at times when they ask for ROM updates (lol smh), but generally nice people.
Now all the devs here are a capable bunch, and they've managed to do what LG/T-Mobile/Nvidia couldn't do. I've said this time and time again. But without those 3 giving this phone even half of the effort, we suffer ultimately. In Driver support, Camera support, ICS support, annoying bugs going unfixed. The devs have to pick up all the slack, and that sucks. I left because of the circumstances that those 3 have put us in, and I'd say it's a fair assessment.
But if you're gonna jump ship, I suggest you don't do it for whoever gets ICS first. There's no way I would have gone to the Sensation, too many hoops to jump through, S-OFF, bootloader, etc. That phone's pretty thick too, not enough internal memory either (Nice camera though). Jump when you decide your time here has come to an end, when you have felt like you can enjoy this phone no longer, or if you feel you just need an upgrade/better spec'd phone. I believe those are valid reasons, as well as explanations that don't tick off the rest of the community. x) Cheers on your future smartphone endeavors!

ya i was on the same boat when the phone came out but meh there is a lot of things that i love about this brick lol but mind you the galaxy S3 is coming out so i might go out and buy one of those this summer

Just jump already
It all depends on what you want the phone to do for you... and what you are willing to do for the phone!
Sent from my SUPER LG-P999 using XDA

previously owned the sensation and I believe that the g2x is way smoother and feels better in the hands, though the dev community over there is rocking

Really? G2X feels better in the hand? I got to try it out at the store, been looking to get my hands on a sensation off craigslist for a good price, probably trade for my GS2.
I'm sentimental with my devices, also, have lots of back NANDROIDS of the G2X and need to get my data out of them before selling it. Actually thats the only reason I still hang on to my G2X. Too lazy to move my stuff out of it. I can, just don't feel like it.