Hello All,
Hoping to get some advice. I bought the official i9020a from best buy yesterday (on launch day) seems to be a great phone but I have a few questions and problems.
I unlocked the bootloader but did not root it yet
The biggest issue is battery life. Its terrible (like nexus one before applying the wifi setting trick after 2.3.4 terrible). this NS loses almost 10% of its battery power per hour on standby.
While on standby I have the following running
-wifi turned on
-3 push gmail accounts
Also I noticed that the hotspot doesn't work. when i turn it on it briefly shows 3G and the signal strength bars in green but then the 3G icon goes away and the signal bars turn white, my tablet and laptop can connect but no internet from connected devices and the phone browser itself - just page's not found
my baseband is: i9020aucke1
kernel version: 2.6.35.7-ge382d80
adroid-build 'at' apa28 #1
Build Number: GTJ61
Any advice on the above would be great, I can easily return it but would rather keep it.
Anyone else buy the official Best Buy version and having issues?
Also Anyone know if this phone is locked to AT&T? I don't have handy access to a t-mobile sim card.
Thanks in advance!
Flash new rom. I am sure ATT has some tethering lock on the build. That should be expected.
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racker said:
Hello All,
Hoping to get some advice. I bought the official i9020a from best buy yesterday (on launch day) seems to be a great phone but I have a few questions and problems.
I unlocked the bootloader but did not root it yet
The biggest issue is battery life. Its terrible (like nexus one before applying the wifi setting trick after 2.3.4 terrible). this NS loses almost 10% of its battery power per hour on standby.
While on standby I have the following running
-wifi turned on
-3 push gmail accounts
Also I noticed that the hotspot doesn't work. when i turn it on it briefly shows 3G and the signal strength bars in green but then the 3G icon goes away and the signal bars turn white, my tablet and laptop can connect but no internet from connected devices and the phone browser itself - just page's not found
my baseband is: i9020aucke1
kernel version: 2.6.35.7-ge382d80
adroid-build 'at' apa28 #1
Build Number: GTJ61
Any advice on the above would be great, I can easily return it but would rather keep it.
Anyone else buy the official Best Buy version and having issues?
Also Anyone know if this phone is locked to AT&T? I don't have handy access to a t-mobile sim card.
Thanks in advance!
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10% / hr is unbelievably bad (assuming the display isn't constantly on). What's consuming the battery in the battery stats?
Thus far no subsidized Nexus device has ever been sold sim locked (The Vodafone Nexus One, T-Mobile N1 and NS and the various Canadian Nexus devices). I'd be surprised if it were sim locked.
Thanks everyone for the tips. After my original post and now I finished the root and installed cm7.
Cm7 took care of the hotspot issue. Battery life is still pretty dismal in standby. Ill do a test tonight and leave it unplugged all night and post what used the battery the most in the morning.
Thanks again
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no man, something is really wrong with your device. My phone loses ~1% in each 4hrs in stand-by (during the night).... I can easily stay 2 days with one single charge (with light use) and with everything ON!
edit: oh, and btw, you won't find better battery in any rom out there. stock rom with stock kernel is the best so far (regarding battery life)... i really tried every single combo and it's the main reason i'm back to stock after so many time (with several devices) using cyanogen. with cm7 i use to lose 1~2% per hour in stand-by!
edit2: you should make some complete battery cycles. Battery life in the first week is not really great, but not that bad anyway!
I think there is something pretty wrong with it
a little over 4 hours last night unplugged in standby/locked
start power: 75%
end power: 35%
most used
display 64%
android system 6%
cell standby 6%
Everything else was system stuff at 1%
Display seems to be the culprit in standby.
Hardware? If so I can easily exchange the phone
Thanks again for the advice
I bought the T-Mobile version back in April. I found that my battery life on day 10 was about TWICE what it was on days 1, 2, 3.... I guess the battery adjusted as it got used some.
I suggest you give it two weeks and then note your battery life again.
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no man, something is really wrong with your device. My phone loses ~1% in each 4hrs in stand-by (during the night).... I can easily stay 2 days with one single charge (with light use) and with everything ON!
edit: oh, and btw, you won't find better battery in any rom out there. stock rom with stock kernel is the best so far (regarding battery life)... i really tried every single combo and it's the main reason i'm back to stock after so many time (with several devices) using cyanogen. with cm7 i use to lose 1~2% per hour in stand-by!
edit2: you should make some complete battery cycles. Battery life in the first week is not really great, but not that bad anyway!
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I bought the T-Mobile version back in April. I found that my battery life on day 10 was about TWICE what it was on days 1, 2, 3.... I guess the battery adjusted as it got used some.
I suggest you give it two weeks and then note your battery life again.
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I have seen the "battery gets better over time" statements quite a bit on XDA and other forums. I'll give it a week or two and some cycles.
I have to say the "it gets better" is not something i have ever encountered on any smartphone or dumb phone i have ever had though?
Anyone also getting really really slow charging during the 1st week?
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I have seen the "battery gets better over time" statements quite a bit on XDA and other forums. I'll give it a week or two and some cycles.
I have to say the "it gets better" is not something i have ever encountered on any smartphone or dumb phone i have ever had though?
Anyone also getting really really slow charging during the 1st week?
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If you previously had a non samsung device it charges *slow* even on a 1A charger. No way around that.
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If you previously had a non samsung device it charges *slow* even on a 1A charger. No way around that.
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thank you! yes - i should have probably mentioned that this is my 1st samsung smartphone.
Yes, it charges really slow and it wont be better. Takes about 3,5hrs to a complete charge.
Battery really gets better after 2 weeks, but even in day 1, never was so bad as you described.
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Gotta take social apps off I.e Facebook it constantly syncs n drains battery go on thru net n dnt use antivirus or task manager apps they dnt wrk just use battery
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Fixed!
Ended up returning to best buy swapping the phone. the new unit straight away showed normal discharge during stand by and normal battery when in use.
In the end a bad phone.
Thanks to all for the above responses!
ya you definitely had a bad dud...i was lucky in enough to get a good "dud". with approx. of 3 hours of display on, background syncing, and other moderately intensive tasks i was at a point where i was going on 1 day 12 hours 16 mins and still had 40% of battery left.
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This is my moderate use. Few web here and there facebook, some calls/texts and instant messaging for a good 3hrs
I am running cog 2.2b5
Just wanted to compare battery life and post the rom you are running too
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my battery life sucks. i get about 10% per hour....
What Rom are you using?
yeah my batt isn't too great either. 2 days on Cog V5 now. Each day has been roughly 10hrs with about 4.2hrs use. Each day I ended with maybe 1-2% left.
Is this normal? Froyo didn't help a bit. In fact it may have made it slightly worse.
When I flashed b5 ... it was great. Then I found my gps sucks on it so I flashed again and I found that the battery drains like water 1% every 5 mins! ( Idk what's going there) Then, I flashed again and the above post is my result and my gps still sucks. So maybe if you flash it again it might help. I re partitioned in odin as well.
I am using Froyo (JI6) with lagfix and I get a consistatnt 12+ hours of moderate use. I usually charge my phone every three days.
Cog 2.1.7
I have to charge my phone every night. I have used multiple roms from cog 2.1 and even cog 2.2 as well as stock and it all seems the same.
There is no way that is an accurate picture... there is no way you made phone calls or used the facebook app without it showing up in usage.... u may have gotten 40% out of 12hrs but you did nothing with your phone
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all my calls are usually short and yes i used facebook app and facebook browser as well.
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There is no way that is an accurate picture... there is no way you made phone calls or used the facebook app without it showing up in usage....
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I use tons of apps on my phone and the only things the show up in my battery usage are: Display, cell standby, phone idle and voice calls.
you need to recalibrate your batteries or flash from 100% as DesignGears had mentioned earlier.
i now flash from 100% batt life when upgrading to new ROMs. or do a search for battery calibration.
Not sure how to do a screen shot but Im running 2.2 beta 5 and I thought battery life sucked but it was because I was checking it constantly and playing with GPS.
Today, after recalibrating battery stats two nights ago I have dropped 3% in 3 hrs of standby and very, very light use.
Also, to recalibrate battery stats I downloaded terminal emulator and did the following
su
rm /data/system/batterystats.bin
I had drained it fully down to 1-2%, did the above commands, plugged it in and charged to 100%. You must be rooted to do it this way I would think since Im using su for superuser.
Yea, I recalibrate the battery on my 2nd flash. the first flash my battery was draining literally 1% per minute. So I reflashed (I thought something went wrong on my 1st flash) and recalibrated now it's normal again.
gocats7: Yup cog comes rooted
Cognition is awesome. With all the features built in, the att crapware stripped out I dont see myself ever running a stock ROM again. In regards to battery though, I think its at least as good as stock if not better. I havent had 2.2 beta 5 loaded long enough to really tell.
I've never had poor battery life. I did have that "new phone syndrome" when I got it and had to charge it a lot. But now I'm going around a day and a half on a charge with moderate use. I use wifi everywhere I can and try to minimize the time the screen stays on.
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I've never had poor battery life. I did have that "new phone syndrome" when I got it and had to charge it a lot. But now I'm going around a day and a half on a charge with moderate use. I use wifi everywhere I can and try to minimize the time the screen stays on.
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Have you found that wifi has been helping your battery life? When I have mine on I lose battery at ~5-10% an hour. With it off I lose 1-2% an hour. I have to switch it off nightly so that I don't have to charge my phone again in the morning.
Just the thread I was looking for...
I just recently bought a captivate that had the battery problems it seems so many are having with random shutdowns etc. I would get maybe 12 hours before getting the recharge notice. And that is with very little use. So, along with the advice from these forums, I had it replaced within my 30 days and immediately noticed a difference in the way the phone felt(if that even makes sense). It seemed like the screws were tighter, it was cleaner and it way out performed my previous captivate. Had me thinking I was given a display model or something.
So, to keep it short....I just plugged in after (for me) a very impressive 64 hour strech with moderate useage, some gaming and movie watching. Could not be happier with this phone right now. I cannot for the life of me figure out how such an impressive spec'd phone can use so very little power while locked. It makes me feel like a proud parent...lol.
I <3 My Captivate...
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Have you found that wifi has been helping your battery life? When I have mine on I lose battery at ~5-10% an hour. With it off I lose 1-2% an hour. I have to switch it off nightly so that I don't have to charge my phone again in the morning.
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I have actually found my battery lasts longer with wifi on. I only turn it off when I leave the house. For me the wifi seems to be a lot more power/data efficient then my data connection. I can use the phone all day on wifi and still have 20% left at the end of the day whereas when I've been out all day long using data I can barely make it home without it *****ing at me to charge the phone.
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I have had the best battery life yet with Cog 2.2 Beta 5.5 and migrating my Exchange server to Google Apps Premium so I do not need to use stock corporate email app anymore. I am pretty happy with this so far although I have only used the new beta for a day so far.
As a bonus, I am even using Live Wallpaper.
27hr, just dropped below 30%. Love it
Put it to a real test. Went to the grand prix today in st. pete.
Didnt even have a full charge around 90%. Had 4g on all day.. Brightness all the way up. Facebook , twitter, and 2 e-mail accounts running in the background. Took tons of video clips and tons of pictures, and streamed music through the bluetooth on the way home. As I type this its been 10 hours since it came off the charger and its at 50% battery with all the same items running.
At 1st I had very very bad battery life. But after using it for a few days and then doing a battery pull (read it would get better after all this) it has been working great, with the same or more use then I was doing the 1st few days of ownership. Just wanted to share a postive experience on battery life since I keep hearing and reading so many negative things.
Edit: Thunderbolt not tunderbolt LOL
Thanks for the tip.
I'm noob w battery. Do you mean just charge it full, pull it out and put it back in and it lasts you that much? I'm skeptical....The most I could have so far is 12 hours and I have 3 bars (out of 10) left.
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Thanks for the tip.
I'm noob w battery. Do you mean just charge it full, pull it out and put it back in and it lasts you that much? I'm skeptical....The most I could have so far is 12 hours and I have 3 bars (out of 10) left.
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The main reason people are having drain on 4g from what i heard was the software for the radio was re-written at the LAST minute (the reason for the delay) because they had to change their 700 MHz frequency just a bit higher.. something like 5 or 10 Mhz due to interference with with communication towers at airports. this sucker keeps dropping 4g like its no ones business. the new baseband which will be pushed out in the first update for the phone (hopefully in next month) should correct it.
Thats funny because i was at the gp today and my battery died before i left at 1p. Took a couple of pictures and 1 video. Used gps for like 10 mins and that was it. Stayed in my pocket for the rest of the day.
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hmm
I Disabled my 4G with dialing the *#*#(forgot the 4 numbers)*#*# and my battery has been lasting me alot longer
I'm in a 4G area so I have the phone set to LTE mode only and I get great battery life.
I probably have the worst battery life ever... 70% before putting it away and not using it. 5 hours later, I check my battery and I'm at 10%!! I didn't even use it!
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my battery was about to die on me today within 3 hours of being off the charger, granted it was with heavy use.. flashing multiple roms using titanium backup etc... but i still think that is asinine..
Powell730 said:
my battery was about to die on me today within 3 hours of being off the charger, granted it was with heavy use.. flashing multiple roms using titanium backup etc... but i still think that is asinine..
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anourack said:
I probably have the worst battery life ever... 70% before putting it away and not using it. 5 hours later, I check my battery and I'm at 10%!! I didn't even use it!
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U need to learn how to charge it. Search around.
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The battery life on the TB is just as good as it was on my rooted dinc with a custom kernal. I have no complaints with stock unrooted TB so far and I use the **** out of it.
I turned off 4g and am going 16 hours on 50% battery. Really, to sit in my pocket, do calls, text, and check email I don't need 4g. I too noticed the 4g radio switching on and off constantly. Hopefully the baseband update will fix this.
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I turned off 4g and am going 16 hours on 50% battery. Really, to sit in my pocket, do calls, text, and check email I don't need 4g. I too noticed the 4g radio switching on and off constantly. Hopefully the baseband update will fix this.
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It has more to do with where you live and how good your 4G coverage is
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i get 12hrs easy with moderate use. All I've done is turn off the GPS services when not needed and disable the lock screen... hope things improve for everyone having issues... :/
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U need to learn how to charge it. Search around.
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What do you mean, is there a special way to charge it now?
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What do you mean, is there a special way to charge it now?
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I think he may be referring to the "bump" charge. Where you charge the phone to full, unplug it, turn it off, charge it to full again, unplug, turn it on, and charge it to full again. Not sure if this is an HTC thing or just a general lithium ion battery thing. But it helps IMO.
I get about 12 hours of battery life with moderate use. I little web surfing, lots of texting, light app usage. My phone is constantly switching from 4G to 3G when I'm indoors. Outside though I'm fine. I'm surprised about the different experiences people are having with battery life.
Since I can't get through a whole day without it dying I bought a second home charger on amazon. I'd like to get the extended battery, but it looks like it'd make this phone too big at that point. I wish there was some better battery tech coming out soon, since there hasn't been too much progression on that front.
Turn on the wifi radio. When you are home or anywhere you have access to wifi, the device will automatically turn the 4g radio off when wifi is up. That simple change has made a huge difference and I dont have to worry about turning the 4g radio on/off manually.
I've been seeing, under heavy use, at minimum 8 hours of use consistently since I've been through a few cycles, including bump charging the first few cycles. Also, a few things that greatly helped me:
Read somewhere that the stock blockbuster app, even if it has never been opened, has a service that updates the movie catalog in the background. Run the app, update it, and in settings turn off movie catalog updates. After doing this my battery didn't drain nearly as fast while in my pocket. I can't verify that this actually helps, but it did for me. I disabled the 4G radio since I live in a 3G area as well.
I also run Green Power as of this morning. My phone has been running over 12 hour with 3:30 of that being actual usage and I'm at 68% remaining. I have it set to 1 minute on and 10 off for data while it is locked in my pocket.
Beyond that, GPS is disabled unless I need it. So is WiFi. Brightness is at about 30%, with a widget to bump it to full when I'm outside in sunlight. I also noticed a big jump when I disabled HTC sense Facebook updates, and used stock Facebook instead. Every time I went to contacts it would download that contacts Facebook updates, which is pointless and uses data constantly under normal usage.
Of course your mileage may vary, but this all gets me through the day under normal usage, and over a half day under heavy usage.
I am currently at 8.5 hours with 79% left on my battery. Stock Battery. If I didn't have to work tomorrow, and be able to make phone calls and such I'd leave my phone unplugged all night to see how long it can go.
nosympathy said:
I am currently at 8.5 hours with 79% left on my battery. Stock Battery. If I didn't have to work tomorrow, and be able to make phone calls and such I'd leave my phone unplugged all night to see how long it can go.
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I'm assuming thats with Virus Rom as it says in your sig? If so, that makes me want to try it. I'm stock unrooted right now, haven't had time to invest in rooting the ADB original method yet, don't want to rush through it. When I do, I fully intend to try that rom out.
I purchased the Droid Charge based on the Engadget review of the device. In particular, I wanted a device that could get on the LTE network AND have great battery life. This excerpt sold me:
When it comes to battery life, there's no competition. The Charge blitzed through a full day of what we'd consider typical use, coming off the charger at about 9am and not getting slotted back in again until 9pm the next night. Yes, you read that right, two working days of what we'd consider average use with GPS and WiFi on, taking pictures and videos, all powered by a single 1,600mAh battery. Granted, we weren't running our performance benchmarks at the time, but we were hammering the LTE antenna to get some speed results.
I expected to get, at a minimum, a full day's charge using LTE on this device, considering I live in an area where LTE isn't hard to come by (Los Angeles). Alas, I was sorely disappointed when my battery drained within 5 hours with minimal use. 5 hours!!! How can Engadget claim it will last for two days and that "there's no competition." It's totally misleading. The Droid Charge has a serious battery issue which nobody can seem to get to the bottom of. I even tried installing the latest Gingerbread rom to ameliorate the issue, but to no avail. Has anyone gotten a full day's use out of the device when on the LTE network?
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Has anyone gotten a full day's use out of the device when on the LTE network?
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I just got back from a full day's use on 4G with GPS on, WiFi on and Exchange and Gmail pushing mail as needed. I did not, however, text at all. One of my pages has an IP camera app that updates three feeds (snapshots) at least every five minutes. I am in a pretty consistent 4G area except when I'm at home (Philladelphia suburbs by my home is in a geographically challenged location)!
The phone just turned off as it dropped below 2% so I can't give any battery stats; I've been following the battery recalibration procedure listed here.
Keep the faith...you may not reach two days but you should be able to get a lot more than 5 hours!
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I just got back from a full day's use on 4G with GPS on, WiFi on and Exchange and Gmail pushing mail as needed. I did not, however, text at all. One of my pages has an IP camera app that updates three feeds (snapshots) at least every five minutes. I am in a pretty consistent 4G area except when I'm at home (Philladelphia suburbs by my home is in a geographically challenged location)!
The phone just turned off as it dropped below 2% so I can't give any battery stats; I've been following the battery recalibration procedure listed here.
Keep the faith...you may not reach two days but you should be able to get a lot more than 5 hours!
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Out of curiosity, which ROM are you using to get this kind of battery life? I just installed the latest Gingerbread leak and my phone is leaking battery at a rate of 15-20% per hour. I saw that re-calibration post, but I'm wondering if I can simply charge my phone to 100% and place the same ROM on top of the one I already installed. Just want to make sure I don't brick my phone.
Any thoughts?
If you wondering if you can just replace your current COM with the same one you are using by just replacing the files on the SD card then yes you can. If you're asking about re-flashing the same ROM over it again without wiping during the calibration then you can. It shouldn't harm anything.
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If you wondering if you can just replace your current COM with the same one you are using by just replacing the files on the SD card then yes you can. If you're asking about re-flashing the same ROM over it again without wiping during the calibration then you can. It shouldn't harm anything.
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I've already installed the latest Gingerbread ROM and updated all my apps and widgets on the device. Can I now charge the device to 100%, bump charge a couple of times (per the instructions in another post on the board), and then restart and wipe the battery stats in recovery mode? Or, do I have to charge to 100% and then completely reinstall the same exact ROM on top of the one I just installed?
Stockmoose.
5 hours? That's questionable that you only got 5 hours with minimal use. No Engadget did not lie, and until the 1700 mah phones are released the end of the month, there is no comparison.
Only with Altered Beast and heavy use was I able to kill the battery in under 8 hours. So I would chalk it up to a bad battery. Not everything is perfect.
Gingerbread is a leak, so trying to compare it to the stock rom does you no good.
You can wipe the battery cache without having to re-flash everything again.
Agreed, I was heavily influenced by the Engadget review and was seriously disappointed when I struggle to get a day's worth of usage out of the stock ROM on 4G.
The Gingerbread leaks have some serious battery issues. I reccomend flashing Humble v1.3 (Froyo) and undervolting. Best battery life by far. I can hammer the LTE radio for a few hours straight.
As a side note, all of Verizon's current 4G Android offerings have awful battery life due to having the dual CDMA and LTE radios. That being said, the Charge evidently has the best life out of the three of them. Future phones (when Verizon dumps CDMA altogether in favor of LTE) will have way better life.
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Agreed, I was heavily influenced by the Engadget review and was seriously disappointed when I struggle to get a day's worth of usage out of the stock ROM on 4G.
The Gingerbread leaks have some serious battery issues. I reccomend flashing Humble v1.3 (Froyo) and undervolting. Best battery life by far. I can hammer the LTE radio for a few hours straight.
As a side note, all of Verizon's current 4G Android offerings have awful battery life due to having the dual CDMA and LTE radios. That being said, the Charge evidently has the best life out of the three of them. Future phones (when Verizon dumps CDMA altogether in favor of LTE) will have way better life.
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Curious while running Humble v1.3 and undervolting which kernel are you running atm. And second what undervoltage settings are your using atm currently so yo uare getting random reboots. Reaosn I ask is I just flashed v1.3 this am and updated to Imnut's newest OC kernel but have left it alone right now without touching any voltage settings. So any input would be great and I'd like to set mine nad check it out to see if I can get even better battery life out of it. Thanks
Pro tip: Never buy anything based solely on one review.
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Curious while running Humble v1.3 and undervolting which kernel are you running atm. And second what undervoltage settings are your using atm currently so yo uare getting random reboots. Reaosn I ask is I just flashed v1.3 this am and updated to Imnut's newest OC kernel but have left it alone right now without touching any voltage settings. So any input would be great and I'd like to set mine nad check it out to see if I can get even better battery life out of it. Thanks
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This should help.
I get about 12 hours with minimal to moderate usage throughout the day 4G, wifi/gps off for the majority. I might have to try this bump charging, though. Would be incredible to get a solid day out of this thing.
9 hours of using my phone to check XDA post, playing bubble buster, and texting and my phone is at 77%. Only thing different on my phone is i'm using SetCPU to undervolt. But even with that. if you are only getting 6 hours with minor use. There is something wrong.
I just did a solid 36 hours by staying on my home Wifi almost the whole time. I'm using Gummy Charged 1.8. Before everyone starts calling bull----, I probably used the phone a total of 1 hour over that period of time.
Normally, it lasts 14-18 hours with only Exchange mail and an hour of gaming (no facebook, social networks, etc.)
If I recall correctly, battery life was an issue with the gingerbread leaks.
I did the battery charging cycles as mentioned above and erased the battery stats last night. Now I'm down to 20% after 6 hours of light use. That's pretty much the same way as before. What did I do wrong?
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I just did a solid 36 hours by staying on my home Wifi almost the whole time. I'm using Gummy Charged 1.8. Before everyone starts calling bull----, I probably used the phone a total of 1 hour over that period of time.
Normally, it lasts 14-18 hours with only Exchange mail and an hour of gaming (no facebook, social networks, etc.)
If I recall correctly, battery life was an issue with the gingerbread leaks.
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Not a chance I'll say bull**** that is for sure. When leaving the device on Wifi battery life will DRASTICALLY increase. The radio in the device is what is eating it up. If you want to conserve even more battery I've found and don't ask me why if you actually turn off Mobile data and then turn Wifi on it will help even more.
Ran a test last night and with over 7hrs on Wifi it dropped on 5%
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I just did a solid 36 hours by staying on my home Wifi almost the whole time. I'm using Gummy Charged 1.8. Before everyone starts calling bull----, I probably used the phone a total of 1 hour over that period of time.
Normally, it lasts 14-18 hours with only Exchange mail and an hour of gaming (no facebook, social networks, etc.)
If I recall correctly, battery life was an issue with the gingerbread leaks.
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I've gotten 24 hours with about 20% to spare going in and out of Wifi and 4G. I had 3 gmail accounts sync'd to the phone and I probably streamed about 20 minutes worth of music using Google Music. But, I probably used the phone for a combined total of 1.5 hours over that period, and it was a slow day, so I actually didn't get many emails.
I think I was using one of the Froyo Gummy ROMs.
I don't think it's very fair to use custom ROMs and then complain about battery life. Was your battery life lower than 5 hours on the stock ROM? Did you even use the stock ROM?
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I don't think it's very fair to use custom ROMs and then complain about battery life. Was your battery life lower than 5 hours on the stock ROM? Did you even use the stock ROM?
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Try reading more than skimming the OP. He implied that he started stock there, and about 3 posts down said that it was ridiculous that even the stock ROM couldn't get 5 hours.
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Try reading more than skimming the OP. He implied that he started stock there, and about 3 posts down said that it was ridiculous that even the stock ROM couldn't get 5 hours.
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My apologies, I misread his second to last sentence in the OP.
Either way, 5 hours is not normal and I wouldn't blame the Charge just yet. Not sure if you guys have official 2.3 yet (I'm a Thunderbolt owner myself), but I know the Froyo ROMs on the TB have a very noticeable increase in battery life compared to the Gingerbread leak builds.
I get about 6-8 hours of heavy use on my 2.3 ROM on the TB. Probably closer to 13+ with Froyo.
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i need your help in deciding if something is wrong with my sensation 4g or is it something else i am doing. the main issue is that battery life sucks. the first sensation i got also had the similar issue, and i exchanged it for the new one. but i have the same issue. i have went thru at least four cycle of draining the battery and then charging it up. also did the battery calibration. i haven't rooted the phone. just using go launcher ex instead of sense in hope of getting more battery life. so, now my question is is it just my bad luck with sensation? should i try one more time in exchanging device with t-mobile or should i go with HTC service?
will appreciate any help.
this is a detailed log of today's observation.
HTC battery level
took of from charger : 5:00 AM
7:00 AM 89% --browsed net for 10 mins, checked emails
-- played music for 5 mins
10:00 AM 50% -- made two calls total 5 mins, recved two calls total two mins
11:18 AM 36% -- played game for 5 mins, checked email couple of times
11:44 AM 33% -- call of 1 min
12:37 pm 25% -- no use
01:17 PM 15% -- placed a two min call.
02:00 PM 14% -- at 15% phone went into power saver mode and it turned off wifi as well as mobile data.
02:40 PM 5% -- now can't wait, plugged into charger :-(
what is using battery
display 47%
cell standby 14%
phone ideal 12%
voice calls 12%
wifi 11%
internet 3%
bluetooth 1%
what is running on the phone
stock mail client -- one work email
gmail -- one personal account
juice defender
go launcher ex
sense clock widget
go weather widge (no auto update, update when opened)
wifi -- on
4g mobile network -- off
bluetooth -- off
GPS -- off
It is easily one of the two... Try factory reseting the phone if that has no effect, id just return for a replacement
You could also s-off your phone and look into some of the roms in your region, could also be helpful :|
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1112
With my phone personally...if i charge phone to full at 5am..its full at 7am
(Currently using Stock Rom/Kernel used ADB to pause applications runs like a champ!)
Best of luck with your issue
thanks for your reply. but why it need factory reset? i got phone just a week ago. i have installed few apps like unblock me game, juice defender, battery calibration, volume control+
(underpower speaker is another issue). , google maps, go weahter, go laucher.
the phone i have is made in china and manufacturing date is 7/2011.
s-off phone will void warranty, so i will wait till warranty period is over.
KrisHilbun said:
It is easily one of the two... Get phone replaced again if you can... If not just buy a replacement battery, could do the trick..
http://goo.gl/qzm9U
You could also s-off your phone and look into some of the roms in your region, could also be helpful :|
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1112
With my phone personally...if i charge phone to full at 5am..its full at 7am
(Currently using Stock Rom/Kernel used ADB to pause applications runs like a champ!)
Best of luck with your issue
Edit; Have you tried a factory reset? Could be worth a shot aswell
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seems to me that your getting pretty much the same use from your battery that i am. i had the htc desire prior to the sensation and to be honest the battery life is comparable. i was expecting the sensation to be better battery wise but but i guess duel core is desire on speed so will use more power sucks though, i just plug phone into charger every night. don't think changing the phone is gona help.....battery life on htc is just bad. maybe buy a backup/second battery.
i will be more than happy if i have to charge phone just once a day. it drains out by 3:00 pm, then it is a real issue. That too without any long calls. i am sure, if i talk for one hour, then battery will die on spot.
the usage of today is in fact much less than some busy day. i am inside my office so have used landline/ skype for calls. if i have to be outside my office, then it gonna be a problem.
on a side note, what good alternative to sensation is there with T-mobile USA? i have seen some amazing battery life with iphone 4g and motoroal defy. and my own blackberry could go on for two days without a need to charge.
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seems to me that your getting pretty much the same use from your battery that i am. i had the htc desire prior to the sensation and to be honest the battery life is comparable. i was expecting the sensation to be better battery wise but but i guess duel core is desire on speed so will use more power sucks though, i just plug phone into charger every night. don't think changing the phone is gona help.....battery life on htc is just bad. maybe buy a backup/second battery.
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I too have been very frustrated with battery drainage. But for me, it didn't get bad until after I flashed modified ROMs. And I am not ignorant to flashing ROMs and I have done everything I can to find out the battery problem (battery calibration, bump charging, proper RIL files etc). But I can not get more than 8 hours in a day for any ROM. And these ROMs proclaim to be better on battery usage.
When I was on stock, I was getting 24 hours with moderate usage.
The thing I do not understand is that some people brag about their good battery usage and others with the same ROM are getting bad drainage. There are so many variables to battery drainage that trying to understand the problem proves difficult.
So I am just as dumbfounded as you.
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what is running on the phone
stock mail client -- one work email
gmail -- one personal account
juice defender
go launcher ex
sense clock widget
go weather widge (no auto update, update when opened)
wifi -- on
4g mobile network -- off
bluetooth -- off
GPS -- off
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How often does the mail client poll for new mail?
Do you leave your wifi on all the time? And if you do is it always connected, or just on and sometimes connected? When its on but not connected it will scan for available connections very frequently causing drain.
How is the is the mobile service in the places where you spend most of your time? If you spend a lot of time in places where the reception is poor then anytime you have no service the phone will search for service causing drain.
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How often does the mail client poll for new mail?
Do you leave your wifi on all the time? And if you do is it always connected, or just on and sometimes connected? When its on but not connected it will scan for available connections very frequently causing drain.
How is the is the mobile service in the places where you spend most of your time? If you spend a lot of time in places where the reception is poor then anytime you have no service the phone will search for service causing drain.
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I am next to router all the time . As for mobile signal I usually get 3 to 4 bars. Email client is push gmail client as my company is using Google business app. Even if I dnt use the phone, it drains about 5% battery. If I use moderatly then all bets are off.
Since I have a similar battery problem and have done hours and hours of research including testing various ROMs, I think the answer to this strange behaviour (some people with good battery life, some without) is indicated by TechRadar's Sensation review:
UPDATE: We've finally managed to get our hands on a new review model of the HTC Sensation, and the good news is the battery life is definitely improved.
It seems that a combination of data-hungry applications and a slightly dodgy model caused the odd readings from before, although we're not entirely convinced the above scenario isn't one power users will face, which is why we've left it in.
But in normal use, and by that we mean sending 42 texts, spending 49 mins on the phone, watching an hour and bit of video and using the music player constantly, plus a few minutes spent using GPS to track ourselves and browsing the internet for roughly 45 mins, the battery pretty much lasted the day, although it was often in the yellow zone come 11PM.
However, what was more impressive (and a relief) was the sleep state of the HTC Sensation. Where before the phone would get very hot and start spewing out battery life in our pocket for no reason, if you leave the phone locked up for around 10-15 minutes on our new model the power consumption dropped to almost nothing.
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Source: http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/htc-sensation-943466/review?artc_pg=9
I was going to switch to get a replacement model today since I'm still within my "grace" period, but something strange happened yesterday.
After trying out loads of different custom ROMs which all made no improvement to my terrible battery life, on Saturday I went back to the stock ROM (although the 2.3.4 version which is not yet out in Ireland), and on Saturday I suddenly had decent battery life (i.e. lasted the whole day and more)! Saturday night, still planning to return my phone on Monday (today) I switched back to the 2.3.4 stock ROM and put S-ON back on for warranty purposes. Then Sunday and today I still have the acceptable battery life of 1 or more days with light usage!
So, still have to do more research.
But simple answer:
Just get a replacement and hope you get a "working" model; otherwise, ask for a SGSII.
well, this is my second one. and i also have the same observation, after upgrade to 2.3.4 , battery life seems to have improved (OR is it just a perception? ). I have got much talked about anker battery, and just put it in. let it go thru couple of charge-discharge cycle, and then i will comment.
manuelkuhs said:
Since I have a similar battery problem and have done hours and hours of research including testing various ROMs, I think the answer to this strange behaviour (some people with good battery life, some without) is indicated by TechRadar's Sensation review:
Source: http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/htc-sensation-943466/review?artc_pg=9
I was going to switch to get a replacement model today since I'm still within my "grace" period, but something strange happened yesterday.
After trying out loads of different custom ROMs which all made no improvement to my terrible battery life, on Saturday I went back to the stock ROM (although the 2.3.4 version which is not yet out in Ireland), and on Saturday I suddenly had decent battery life (i.e. lasted the whole day and more)! Saturday night, still planning to return my phone on Monday (today) I switched back to the 2.3.4 stock ROM and put S-ON back on for warranty purposes. Then Sunday and today I still have the acceptable battery life of 1 or more days with light usage!
So, still have to do more research.
But simple answer:
Just get a replacement and hope you get a "working" model; otherwise, ask for a SGSII.
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well, this is my second one. and i also have the same observation, after upgrade to 2.3.4 , battery life seems to have improved (OR is it just a perception? ). I have got much talked about anker battery, and just put it in. let it go thru couple of charge-discharge cycle, and then i will comment.
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How's the Anker battery? I'm getting mine tomorrow hopefully Bought a spare which I'm planning to resell internationally in case someone wants one (difficult to buy outside of UK or US for reasonable price)
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How's the Anker battery? I'm getting mine tomorrow hopefully Bought a spare which I'm planning to resell internationally in case someone wants one (difficult to buy outside of UK or US for reasonable price)
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i have been using anker battery for last few days. looks good so far, it lasts a day. It works great with wifi, but using data on 4g (TMOUS) drains it a lot faster.
I got my Nexus 5 on Monday and have been pretty happy with it so far. Today was the first day I actually had to be away from WiFi for the day and the battery life has stunned me with how poor it has been. I haven't seen battery drop so fast since I had my Desire HD. I took it off charge about 9am and at just after 8pm as I type this I'm down to 10% with under 2 hours screen on time. 100% to 10% in around 10 hours with less than 2 hours screen use.
Has anyone else had this poor battery life? I'm going to let it run down completely, install GSam and see if it happens again but from what I've read on a few reviews (The Verge was the main one) this seems to be almost normal. I would be unhappy with battery life this bad after two years, not two days.
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I got my Nexus 5 on Monday and have been pretty happy with it so far. Today was the first day I actually had to be away from WiFi for the day and the battery life has stunned me with how poor it has been. I haven't seen battery drop so fast since I had my Desire HD. I took it off charge about 9am and at just after 8pm as I type this I'm down to 10% with under 2 hours screen on time. 100% to 10% in around 10 hours with less than 2 hours screen use.
Has anyone else had this poor battery life? I'm going to let it run down completely, install GSam and see if it happens again but from what I've read on a few reviews (The Verge was the main one) this seems to be almost normal. I would be unhappy with battery life this bad after two years, not two days.
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The good battery apps like BBS are broken on KitKat.
But your battery life is not normal. Mine is quite good, about what I would expect. For reference, my GS3 would use 0.2-0.4% per hour while idling during the night. I can't get real numbers or monitor wakelocks on this phone yet. But so far, seems at least somewhat similar to that.
Use Greenify.
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I got my Nexus 5 on Monday and have been pretty happy with it so far. Today was the first day I actually had to be away from WiFi for the day and the battery life has stunned me with how poor it has been. I haven't seen battery drop so fast since I had my Desire HD. I took it off charge about 9am and at just after 8pm as I type this I'm down to 10% with under 2 hours screen on time. 100% to 10% in around 10 hours with less than 2 hours screen use.
Has anyone else had this poor battery life? I'm going to let it run down completely, install GSam and see if it happens again but from what I've read on a few reviews (The Verge was the main one) this seems to be almost normal. I would be unhappy with battery life this bad after two years, not two days.
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We can't really answer about your phone without knowing your usage habits. I mean, what you posted doesnt seem bad, especially if you're in a crappy signal area or play games.
my battery has been around 20% better than on the N4
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Coming from an iPhone 4, I am shocked by how much faster Android is sipping on the juice.On my iPhone, I would probably be around 70% 7 hours into the day, my N5 is at 50%.
47% after 11 hrs for me
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We can't really answer about your phone without knowing your usage habits. I mean, what you posted doesnt seem bad, especially if you're in a crappy signal area or play games.
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A brief summary of my brief usage. I haven't played any games at all since I got the phone and the only usage has been social network apps and very light browsing of around <20 minutes. Oh and I made a call that lasted around 15 seconds. Everything else is stock setup. I have unlocked the bootloader but I did that prior to setting it up due to it wiping everything in the process.
Basically I've used it as much as I'd use my Nexus 4 and that wouldn't see so much as a 30% drain by now. The only thing that I am looking at as a possible cause is that the phone defaults to wanting 4G only. I'm not on a 4G plan or in a 4G area but even with that Mobile Standby is only showing 4% battery use. Suffice to say I switched that to 3G when I saw it just before posting. As I said, I'm going to drain it completely then charge to full and watch it very closely but I wanted to get thoughts while I waited.
I have contacted Google to see if there are any known issues that have popped up but the response I got just suggests turning off practically everything! Why would I opt for a powerful phone just to turn off sync, location services and anything that makes it a smartphone? The baffling one to me is suggesting I switch to AIRPLANE mode if I'm not near WiFi! I didn't buy a WiFi only tablet, I bought a phone!
"If you know you won’t be near a mobile or Wi-Fi network for a while, switch to Airplane mode"
I have been very pleasantly surprised with the battery life with my Nexus 5, I have noticed however that Google Location service likes to use battery power, more importantly - GPS - way too much..
However, I leave it on and even still it easily lasts me a day of use, with around 30-40% left depending on how much I use it.
What are your highest apps in the battery use screen?
Try turning off Google location services.
I am really pleased with battery life. Around 30-40 % left at end of day.
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Just you.all stock and battery life is way better than galaxy s4.
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I have been very pleasantly surprised with the battery life with my Nexus 5, I have noticed however that Google Location service likes to use battery power, more importantly - GPS - way too much..
However, I leave it on and even still it easily lasts me a day of use, with around 30-40% left depending on how much I use it.
What are your highest apps in the battery use screen?
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I saw similar with the Nexus 4 but refused to switch off location services and it seems ok. I've attached screenshots just taken. It seems I was a little off with my browsing estimate which shows 36 minutes in Chrome but still hardly astronomical.
OK so far the general opinion seems to be that it's just me. That helps me eliminate the phone and / or battery just being awful so thanks guys.
I'm at near 11 hours and am at 69%.. with an hour screen time. Not great but it easily gets me through the day. By the time I plug it in tonight it will probably have 20-30% and 3 maybe 4 hours of OST. That's more than enough for me
I should mention I have location off.. and only turn it on if I'm going to use the GPS
I also have Google Now off I don't need those flash cards to tell me how long it's going to take me to get home.. it's useful sometimes but I rarely look at em.
I'm pleased with my battery so far.. for the super heavy user they definitely wouldn't get a day.. but for me I'll get it easily.
its been pretty terrible for me with identical setups as other devices.
it has me seriously contemplating going back to my htc one. overall i do love the phone tho so hopefully I get a better idea when betterbatterystats is updated.
Few things with battery thats annoying me is google services kill this phone worse than any other ive owned. Even with google now disabled and location disabled. Also my daily drive to work I always use waze w/ screen on. With my other phones (htc one / n4 / iphone 5) i generally lose between 10-15% battery. On this phone im easily losing 25%.
I have access to charging so not a huge deal for now. Its a new os update so maybe it will get ironed out.
garyHal said:
Coming from an iPhone 4, I am shocked by how much faster Android is sipping on the juice.On my iPhone, I would probably be around 70% 7 hours into the day, my N5 is at 50%.
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you are forgetting you are having a full HD and quad core phone now.
Ahh you got that google services bug eh.. that will kill any battery
Despite not wanting to I did a factory reset and installed a handful of apps, nothing that should cause issues anyway. When I got to Twitter though just after installing I noticed two warning notifications crop up that I remember just dismissing without thinking last time.
com.google.android.gsf.login
com.google.android.calendar
Both state they need installation of Google Play Services. I've ignored them for now so it'll be interesting to see if they have anything to do with it. I know the screen is going to be using more battery than I'm used to when it's on and notice that in battery use it's just everything else.
Friday will be the ultimate test of sorts. I've disabled WiFi, I'm charging it up and have disabled a few location things I don't care about. If it goes down hard again then it's going back.
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And a MUCH larger battery
My battery life over the last 3 days on the N5 has been equal to and a little bit better than my GS4 I've had since launch. Very pleased
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OK so far the general opinion seems to be that it's just me. That helps me eliminate the phone and / or battery just being awful so thanks guys.
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I don't think what you're getting is that out of the ordinary. Between screen time and cell reception (the largest contributors to battery life) you could easily be seeing 'normal' battery life.
Don't expect more than 3.5 hrs of screen time, especially if you have reception issues when not on WIFI. And I'm talking 'normal' computer/dev/IT guy usage (e.g. using the phone as it's intended aka using google now, using one or two emails with push sync, using music services occasionally and sparingly during a day, NOT running in airplane mode, not disabling a crapload of smartphone features).