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Ok, normally its a no brainer as im used to CM7 on the G2, but i have been reading there is a lot of bugs with it (i have not read since nightly release 17 or so and i think its up to 30 or something around that now so i gotta catch up a bit i just got the phone today). I also read that eaglesbread or something like that is mentioned all over the place. normally i would not ask this question, but with this phone there is a lot of issues and want to clarify everything.
im an avid CM7 user, so trying other roms makes me nervous, so overall what has been the best ROM where everything works (gps, wifi, 4g, reboots, etc etc etc)
I would also like a rom with an overclockable kernel built in, as im kinda nervous about flashing kernels, but please feel free to share combos of roms and kernels that work outstanding as well. again, im used to a G2, so over there i dont ask this question, as i started and will continue to use CM7 on my G2.
my G2x is already rooted.
You are going to get alot of opinions cause at this point in time no rom is that much better then any other
Now wait for a while longer and I am sure it would be an easier answer
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You are going to get alot of opinions cause at this point in time no rom is that much better then any other
Now wait for a while longer and I am sure it would be an easier answer
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lol, sadly in the back of my mind, thats what i was thinking.
usually before i buy a phone, first thing i look for is how easy it is to root, then i look at hardware, then roms and stability. as you can tell, i have been trolling the G2x forums for almost 2 weeks now looking around and have not seen anything that is straight forward like on the G2, but i also got the G2 in feb 2011, so it was already out for a while prior to my purchase compared to this phone has been out for what 3-4 weeks now?
my initial plan was to stick with stock rom, just root it and change the font and remove some bloatware and wait for the official GB update and install it manually from one of our great developers on this site
my device has very very minor screen bleed at each of the 4 corners and even that was hard to find, screen build quality seems good and all day under moderate use has not locked up on me. i will have to figure out why wifi was having an issue with me, but my G2 was also have wifi lockups that it never had before so it may be an issue on my end. but 4G connectivity has been working 100%.
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lol, sadly in the back of my mind, thats what i was thinking.
usually before i buy a phone, first thing i look for is how easy it is to root, then i look at hardware, then roms and stability. as you can tell, i have been trolling the G2x forums for almost 2 weeks now looking around and have not seen anything that is straight forward like on the G2, but i also got the G2 in feb 2011, so it was already out for a while prior to my purchase compared to this phone has been out for what 3-4 weeks now?
my initial plan was to stick with stock rom, just root it and change the font and remove some bloatware and wait for the official GB update and install it manually from one of our great developers on this site
my device has very very minor screen bleed at each of the 4 corners and even that was hard to find, screen build quality seems good and all day under moderate use has not locked up on me. i will have to figure out why wifi was having an issue with me, but my G2 was also have wifi lockups that it never had before so it may be an issue on my end. but 4G connectivity has been working 100%.
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If you're a Cm fan, now's the time to jump on board. #34 is fairly stable. I use it as my day to day. The battery readings are still f'd up something major. Bionix is a really nice rom. Smooth and clean, and really no major bugs that I noticed. I rocked that for about 7 days, in between #26 and #33 CM. The battery goes fast with Bionix however...if the reading is, in fact, correct.
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If you're a Cm fan, now's the time to jump on board. #34 is fairly stable. I use it as my day to day. The battery readings are still f'd up something major. Bionix is a really nice rom. Smooth and clean, and really no major bugs that I noticed. I rocked that for about 7 days, in between #26 and #33 CM. The battery goes fast with Bionix however...if the reading is, in fact, correct.
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Thanks for the input, would you mind clarifying what you mean by fairly stable?
Nonsense!
I've been using Eagles Blood 1.04 Froyo for about a week now and its been great. I chose this one because it looks stock and I like that (black status bar is a nice mod too). Everything has worked fine: wifi, calls, GPS, 4G, good battery life, etc. I tried a couple Gingerbread variants but I had too many issues -- freezes, major keyboard lag, GPS not locking on. Haven't tried CM yet, although I loved it on my Nexus One.
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There are some freezes with any of the roms when you use the kernels but what do you expect when you overclock to 1.5? From my experience the most stable set up for me is running stock froyo or EB froyo, but I always change my mind and go to GB and CM7 so go figure. Mind you the freezes for me are about 3 times a day and are annoying but the trade off IMHO is worth it
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There are some freezes with any of the roms when you use the kernels but what do you expect when you overclock to 1.5? From my experience the most stable set up for me is running stock froyo or EB froyo, but I always change my mind and go to GB and CM7 so go figure. Mind you the freezes for me are about 3 times a day and are annoying but the trade off IMHO is worth it
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I am running the froyo eb. 04. Seems pretty good. Battery life has improved a lot so far. I do want volume button wake but I haven't read where that was yet or if its even available I just remember seeing it somewhere.
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tried them all and like eaglesblood the best!
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I would also like a rom with an overclockable kernel built in, as im kinda nervous about flashing kernels
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You should be much more concerned about overclocking your device than flashing a kernel. You really don't have much to fear, just dont get careless.
CM is a crowd favorite but its not for me so I dont think you would benefit from my opinion on the available roms.
I just encourage you to take a deep breath and start flashing rom to rom. You just might find that you like something else a lot more.
Faux asop is pretty solid for me. His latest with kernel is doing well so far. I haven't had the random loss in audio lately. If the battery is wrong I don't care because I am ocd and it helps me not worry!
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I have come to like stock Froyo the most, without bloatware of course.
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Cm7 and faux aosp is epic win right now. I'm waiting on krylon to release bionix rc2.....
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You should be much more concerned about overclocking your device than flashing a kernel. You really don't have much to fear, just dont get careless.
CM is a crowd favorite but its not for me so I dont think you would benefit from my opinion on the available roms.
I just encourage you to take a deep breath and start flashing rom to rom. You just might find that you like something else a lot more.
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Same here. I liked cyanogen mod up through 4.1.11.1 on my G1 but ever since then there have been roms that are both faster and more stable. Props to cyanogen for influencing the movement though. Not knocking him, just not my style anymore... going to try faux's aosp I think.
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Anyone have an update on their favorites? Seems like we've had an explosion of new ROMs lately.
Hey devs, might you want to consolidate your efforts a bit?
As I was working on trying to port CM6/CM7, I realized that it is much more time effective for me to port the tweaks involved with CM6/7, rather than trying to actually port the whole thing. So with that in mind, what tweaks/aspects of CM6/7 do people like/would like to see on our phone?
Bear in mind that because CM7 is GingerBread, so although I will try my best, I can't promise that features from CM7 are portable. CM6 features should be portable, but I *promise* nothing, and will try my best otherwise.
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An extra menu in settings to control all this crap
REQUESTS
:LED Settings that are actually helpful/useful (pending)
:Camera on Low Bat (pending)
:Customizable Power Notification (pending)
Requests that probably aren't going to happen
CM7 (until a GB source release from Samsung for our phone or a very generous donation that gives me a reason to spend a month porting a kernel)
CM7 Theme Support (built on the GB API, all themes are Gingerbread minimum API anyways).
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i think the lockscreen gestures would be awesome
theme support would be cool ( dont know if thats possible)
led settings would be nice
I mentioned this to you before, but I thought i'd post here and see if anyone else responds: how about an optional flashable tweak, if possible, for those who want to be able to use their camera on low battery and don't want their screen dimmed and keyboard blacked out. (I know you can brighten the screen on low batt., but you have to do it every time after waking the phone from sleep). I believe on CM7 the phone simply functions normally until the battery dies.
I'll definitely look at the battery tweaks as that should be fairly easy to find, as for the theme manager, the issue is that its built from the GB API, as are all the themes. So even if the theme manager were ported, none of the themes would install as they would require a higher OS version
Customizable notification power control bar. What we have is decent enough. But I always liked that about CM series, being able to customize.
Touchwiz power control is good enough so no need to put this as a high-demand feature.
Are you still working on porting CM? I'd rather wait for CM than just flash tweaks every now and then.
I agree instead of porting u should at least try port cm6 which is froyo that would be awesome till we get a gingerbread kernel leak which krylon is looking into
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Porting CM6 will take me at least another month. That's what I was working on the past 2 weeks, but its all the same problem. CM6 and CM7 both require a ported kernel (2.6.35), which is very tedious and frustrating given the parts that were added to our phone.
Yea I saw that when I was looking into it I'm trying to get in contact with a samsung team on xda see if the help us out to get this ported
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What I'm saying with this thread is, we can essentially build CM6 on our phones, without the official title and all the extra work in porting a kernel, if we just build the parts in that make CM6 different from stock.
So that's my goal, to add enough parts to this that it will be similar to CM6 in functionality.
That's a great idea I just don't know what we can use lol
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The way I see it, although I love CM and would love to see it on this phone just as much as the next guy, I don't see a whole ton of stuff that's in CM that's not in our stuff already. So if I can focus on the things that people actually use from CM, I can build things that people want in CM, rather than trying to build CM.
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The way I see it, although I love CM and would love to see it on this phone just as much as the next guy, I don't see a whole ton of stuff that's in CM that's not in our stuff already. So if I can focus on the things that people actually use from CM, I can build things that people want in CM, rather than trying to build CM.
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Makes sense, considering you're the only one working on it, that I've heard. If it takes time to port a whole thing over, why not cut time down and just port that parts you love about CM.
Honestly, with the work you and ayoteddy have been doing for our phones, Cyanogen isn't a big deal to me. I mean, this may be off-topic, but the only things I do want are to completely eliminate that keyboard lag and to keep the keyboard backlight lit whenever open. Other than that, you guys have tweaked and optimized the phone so much already.
I haven't seen any keyboard lag, where do you see this? I'll look at the keyboard backlight thing shortly, currently working on an extra menu in settings to control all the tweaks I'm adding.
I'll also add a requests list to the OP shortly. EDIT: added.
When typing quickly some inputs may skip. I read the Samsung Epic had the same problem. That phone had a fix for the keyboard lag.
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When typing quickly some inputs may skip. I read the Samsung Epic had the same problem. That phone had a fix for the keyboard lag.
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Ahhh! So it happens to others too. i thought i just was messing up..i was like..i never messed up before. yess, this happens to me too and it sucks. makes uo type ike tis. (missing letters, but not that frequent)
Yeah. Just like that. It's worse when you're typing on an app that uses more resources, like typing on a web browser on an html page. Or when the facebook app is refreshing the feed while you type a status.
I contacted the developer who made the keyboard patch for the Epic(he really fixed the problem up good on that device!). he made a similar patch for us, for the Sidekick, I've just been too half-assed about learning how to apply the patch to our kernel, lol.
you guys can read what he wrote and find the patch he made us here, at the end of the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=975611
apparently, our phone shouldn't suffer nearly as bad as the Epic, but he still made us a patch to make our keypad timer delay configurable by the user!
Edit: for some reason, the letter that skips the most on my phone is the "y", haha.
I don't know much about CM, but I'd really love the option to use landscape software keyboards. I am astonished that DSamsung actually chose to BLOCK THE FEATURE, een if we PAY to download a non stock keyboard.
The keyboard fix for the epic won't work for the Sidekick, because the change that was made to fix the epic issue was already there from Samsung
I'm coming from LG Revolution land and my girlfriend has the MT. She wants her phone to be like mine and be able to tether, get rid of the dumb VM boot animation (and the power off animation if possible), and have a different theme more like mine which is kindof like GB but at the same time completely different. Any help would be awesome.
Thanks in advance to anyone who helps me.
Also, I'm a major fan of the thanks button and I hit it everytime someone helps me out.
Let's see...
PunkROM has a couple extra themed apps and in some respects looks more like Gingerbread and sometimes a little different; it's also been out longer than mine.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1262589
I built Black Lightning off Gingerbread (and PunkROM!) as a base, and integrated the safest and most stable-looking mods. So it's minimal, but theoretically powerful too if it needs to be.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1281340
Princely ROM has a Gingerbread-themed version. I can't say much about it because I haven't used it (much) and remember even less.
http://androidforums.com/triumph-al...ons-gingerbread-rbt-bbw-purple-honeycomb.html
And... that's about it. There are other ROMs but
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PunkROM has a couple extra themed apps and in some respects looks more like Gingerbread and sometimes a little different; it's also been out longer than mine.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1262589
I built Black Lightning off Gingerbread (and PunkROM!) as a base, and integrated the safest and most stable-looking mods. So it's minimal, but theoretically powerful too if it needs to be.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1281340
Princely ROM has a Gingerbread-themed version. I can't say much about it because I haven't used it (much) and remember even less.
http://androidforums.com/triumph-al...ons-gingerbread-rbt-bbw-purple-honeycomb.html
And... that's about it. There are other ROMs but
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Hey thanks. Sorry about the wait on the reply. I don't check the mt forum very often. I'll probably be doing this tomorrow so be ready for some questions lol. Also, what is the most updated version of cwm for this phone?
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It's 5.x and also around here somewhere.
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Just downloaded it. Thanks. Will have to wait to put it on the phone though.
I just installed CM7 and its amazing, I cant believe how functional it is already. Pretty much everything works.
MIUI is the best
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I've tried them all except for punk and its come down to bouncing back and forth between cm7 and miui. why would you settle for froyo when gingerbread is so stable now? For a minute miui was the best but now that the beta cm7 are fully functional and butter smooth I am finding myself less inclined to flash and that is amazing! Ruined my Samsung captivate while I was still learning, be very careful going back to froyo roms from gingerbread on that one. Darkys killed it! My Triumph however seems unbrickable and is overclocked and stable. The stock rom was a joke and I got rid of that clumsy bastard the third day. Thanx to all the devs for working hard and kikin ass!
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I've tried them all except for punk and its come down to bouncing back and forth between cm7 and miui. why would you settle for froyo when gingerbread is so stable now? For a minute miui was the best but now that the beta cm7 are fully functional and butter smooth I am finding myself less inclined to flash and that is amazing! Ruined my Samsung captivate while I was still learning, be very careful going back to froyo roms from gingerbread on that one. Darkys killed it! My Triumph however seems unbrickable and is overclocked and stable. The stock rom was a joke and I got rid of that clumsy bastard the third day. Thanx to all the devs for working hard and kikin ass!
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How did you go about overclocking? I tried to use the CM settings and it didn't let me just ave me the options to cancel
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How did you go about overclocking? I tried to use the CM settings and it didn't let me just ave me the options to cancel
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In CM7 - You don't--at this time anyways--unless you don't mind certain things not working since the only kernel is old and outdated at this time or unless you build your own OC kernel for CM7.
There's a couple of OC kernels available for FROYO roms atm. Just check the Dev section.
I use no frills PC. It's free on the market
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MIUI is the best.
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Cm7 is pretty good although still in beta stages. But that means it can only get better
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CM7 or MIUI are good ROMs, now they have worked out most of the bugs for this phone besides HDMI and something with camera mirror.
I switched over from the Optimus V and I have a gtablet, im really pleased by CM7 on this phone. I haven't had any problems at all, and the battery life with the last two releases on CM7 is great.
I will try the MIUI ROM as well though, I just chose CM7 because I have had prior experience with it.
I've never had any problems with my phone on the stock-ish ROM, but then again even on my desktop Skype appears to be mirrored (although the other side is okay)... from what I've heard, this is the way desktop Skype works.
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I've never had any problems with my phone on the stock-ish ROM, but then again even on my desktop Skype appears to be mirrored (although the other side is okay)... from what I've heard, this is the way desktop Skype works.
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I believe the HDMI and Mirroring problem are the custom ROM bugs, but I didn't stay on stock ROM longer then one day to find out how it was.
I am used to rooting and custom ROM's now, for me it's interesting to try different things out customizing my phone.
Edit: sorry for the confusion if I implied that HDMI and Mirroring on the camera are stock ROM bugs.
I'm refusing to switch to the Gingerbread Cyanogen mod simply because it doesn't have hdmi output. Even though I can't use the HDMI output anyway. There's probably a pill to alleviate that.
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I'm refusing to switch to the Gingerbread Cyanogen mod simply because it doesn't have hdmi output. Even though I can't use the HDMI output anyway. There's probably a pill to alleviate that.
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I'm refusing until you can use wifi with bluetooth, and the niggling audio bugs I keep reading about go away.
I hear that the gingerbread development is winding down now, so we may just be stuck with current cm7 and miui for a while...without fixes.
If I could just figure out what is killing battery so much faster than my optimus V, I'd be happy....
b_randon15 has a newer cm7 kernel that he claims takes care of the wifi/bluetooth issue. I'd give it a try, but I cant get clockwork to work!
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b_randon15 has a newer cm7 kernel that he claims takes care of the wifi/bluetooth issue. I'd give it a try, but I cant get clockwork to work!
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I used both last night simultaneously with that kernel. Worked fine
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There seems to be quite a few jelly bean roms right now, and without an official leak, I am sure each one has its ups and downs at this point.
I am coming from synergyrom, and want to give JB a try. Since theres is still "beta" I am not sure I wanna try that right away.
Which is the most stable at this point??
Definitely liquid smooth...I've tried others and always revert back to touch wiz stock based roms, and i despise touch wiz...liquid smooth jb is the best I've flashed
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liquid smooth is awesome for aosp JB, but touchwiz there's not much thats super stable imo
thanks for the input so far!
Please note if there are known issues, that might help make decisions too.
Thanks all!!
I like codename. Super smooth, frickin' fast and barely believable battery life! Some apps don't stream audio over bluetooth and you have to enable a couple of Developer options to address screen flickering, but those are truthfully very minor annoyances you'll be happy to overlook when you get a taste of that ROM.
Seriously, try it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1900479
I've tried both liquid and codename. They are both very very similar. I can't find cant difference in customization between the two.
Codename ran a little warm for me, not saying liquid runs cool but still.
The reason I jumped to liquid is because in codename (for me anyway) the 160 character MMS bug still persisted, it does not in liquid.
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I've tried both liquid and codename. They are both very very similar. I can't find cant difference in customization between the two.
Codename ran a little warm for me, not saying liquid runs cool but still.
The reason I jumped to liquid is because in codename (for me anyway) the 160 character MMS bug still persisted, it does not in liquid.
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I can respect that. Haven't tried liquid as the CNA ROM got posted around the time I got this phone. I've heard the 160 character error msg is a bit of a red herring, that the msgs actually do get sent but just say they didn't. Was that your experience or did they actually not get sent?
One of the biggest issues with JB roms is if your not in a 4G area then be prepared for some non stop 3G data drops. Also I've noticed weaker signal strength in both service and wifi.
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One of the biggest issues with JB roms is if your not in a 4G area then be prepared for some non stop 3G data drops. Also I've noticed weaker signal strength in both service and wifi.
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Well said.
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One of the biggest issues with JB roms is if your not in a 4G area then be prepared for some non stop 3G data drops. Also I've noticed weaker signal strength in both service and wifi.
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There is a fix for this now but just has not made it's way into all AOSP roms yet. There are in most of the newer AOKP builds right now.
The biggest issue still is the low volume when recording video's. This is an issue in all AOSP roms and has not been fixed yet. I know I also read a lot about speakerphone and in call volume problems but not sure to much about the actual issue.
This is why I am still sticking to an ICS TW Rom. I like knowing everything on my device just works.
The only major thing that keeps from moving to CM10, or Liquid Smooth is the lack of USB Audio. I leave my phone on my dock at work and stream Pandora through the dock's usb audio. I've been using SynergyROM for awhile now, and will probably stick with it until the USB Audio issue is fixed.
AOKP's new build has been great for me. No real issues to report yet...been on it since 3 came out a week or so ago?
i haven't been too impressed jb at all tbh.
Well there's two routes you can go to get your JellyBean fix, and that's either AOSP or TouchWiz.
Touchwiz: You've got two choices.
- You could go with Synergy JB 0.2 beta which is based off the AT&T leaked JB touchwiz build. I personally have not ran it so i can't comment on how well it works, but i use synergy as my touchwiz choice of roms, and was never disappointed by there work, so i'm sure the JB build is working great.
- There is also Jellywiz which is made by Incubus, he's been basing his off the latest leaks, and has a few builds out. One of them is a custom build which just has a few theme changes, and a few other things added in/changed. There's a lot of praise in that thread for his rom, the only bug i had when trying it was that i could not get voice and data to work at the same time (phone calls and web browsing at the same time) But that is because its not based off a verizon leak and until then probably will not work.
AOSP: We'll you've got a lot of options, there's a few here on XDA and then some more on Rootzwiki, so i won't be giving detail on all of them, just a few. But they will all generally 'look' the same, by that i mean because they are all based on AOSP source it'll have the same look to it, since source looks the same.
-CM10: Well it's your basic CM that you've grown to love (or hate ) you can expect nightlies, and things to get fixed in a timely matter. If you used CM7 or CM9 on previous devices then you'll know exactly what to expect. Its built directly from source and you can expect it to be speedy quick.
-AOKP: It's built from source as well just like CM10, but has more options in it, and generally more customization as well. If you use it it'll look a lot like CM10, but it'll have added in bonuses
-CodeNameAndroid: Again built from source, but with codename you've got a ton of customization thrown in, there's a lot of stuff from different AOSP options thrown into it. Right now the Navbar doesn't work without flashing a separate file, but that's not a huge problem since its just a little file to flash. I personally am using it right now and its been great to me, can't really complain about it at all
-LiquidSmooth: Built from source, those that have used a liquid rom before will know exactly what to expect. It will be speedy quick and smooth as hell. You'll find plenty of butter in it as well, they've got there own liquidsettings that'll allow you to do even more customization, and i give them major props, i've currently got them going on my old thunderbolt which is my backup phone, but also used them on my OG Droid and i can vouch that they will provide an amazing rom for users
There are more AOSP Roms over on rootzwiki, but its again the same general thing, each AOSP rom comes from source, but each developer will theme/modify/add/remove/customize to there own liking to provide you with what they feel is the best user experience. The biggest difference between the Touchwiz JB roms and AOSP is that with AOSP you'll have a lot more options going and it'll be stock jellybean, no touchwiz nonsense to hold you back. Some people love the touchwiz stuff and that's fine, but some will love having pure jellybean on there phone and being able to take advantage of that. I'll tell you honestly 100% that AOSP will be faster no matter what touchwiz rom you run.
Oh and kernel wise, i fully stand behind imoseyon's lean kernel for AOSP roms, i've always used imoseyon's kernel's and have always gotten amazing battery life on my GS3 and thunderbolt.
Phew i really hope this helps you with any decision you may have
***If i missed any Touchwiz or AOSP roms i do apologize, i don't know them all off the top of my head, so please don't think that just because i left yours out that i meant it in a bad way***
What are the general downsides with using these JB roms weither it be TouchWiz or AOSP. I'm going to take the jump soon but whats fixed or unfixable? I hear some people say screen flicker and no 3G etc.
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Well there's two routes you can go to get your JellyBean fix, and that's either AOSP or TouchWiz.
Touchwiz: You've got two choices.
- You could go with Synergy JB 0.2 beta which is based off the AT&T leaked JB touchwiz build. I personally have not ran it so i can't comment on how well it works, but i use synergy as my touchwiz choice of roms, and was never disappointed by there work, so i'm sure the JB build is working great.
- There is also Jellywiz which is made by Incubus, he's been basing his off the latest leaks, and has a few builds out. One of them is a custom build which just has a few theme changes, and a few other things added in/changed. There's a lot of praise in that thread for his rom, the only bug i had when trying it was that i could not get voice and data to work at the same time (phone calls and web browsing at the same time) But that is because its not based off a verizon leak and until then probably will not work.
AOSP: We'll you've got a lot of options, there's a few here on XDA and then some more on Rootzwiki, so i won't be giving detail on all of them, just a few. But they will all generally 'look' the same, by that i mean because they are all based on AOSP source it'll have the same look to it, since source looks the same.
-CM10: Well it's your basic CM that you've grown to love (or hate ) you can expect nightlies, and things to get fixed in a timely matter. If you used CM7 or CM9 on previous devices then you'll know exactly what to expect. Its built directly from source and you can expect it to be speedy quick.
-AOKP: It's built from source as well just like CM10, but has more options in it, and generally more customization as well. If you use it it'll look a lot like CM10, but it'll have added in bonuses
-CodeNameAndroid: Again built from source, but with codename you've got a ton of customization thrown in, there's a lot of stuff from different AOSP options thrown into it. Right now the Navbar doesn't work without flashing a separate file, but that's not a huge problem since its just a little file to flash. I personally am using it right now and its been great to me, can't really complain about it at all
-LiquidSmooth: Built from source, those that have used a liquid rom before will know exactly what to expect. It will be speedy quick and smooth as hell. You'll find plenty of butter in it as well, they've got there own liquidsettings that'll allow you to do even more customization, and i give them major props, i've currently got them going on my old thunderbolt which is my backup phone, but also used them on my OG Droid and i can vouch that they will provide an amazing rom for users
There are more AOSP Roms over on rootzwiki, but its again the same general thing, each AOSP rom comes from source, but each developer will theme/modify/add/remove/customize to there own liking to provide you with what they feel is the best user experience. The biggest difference between the Touchwiz JB roms and AOSP is that with AOSP you'll have a lot more options going and it'll be stock jellybean, no touchwiz nonsense to hold you back. Some people love the touchwiz stuff and that's fine, but some will love having pure jellybean on there phone and being able to take advantage of that. I'll tell you honestly 100% that AOSP will be faster no matter what touchwiz rom you run.
Oh and kernel wise, i fully stand behind imoseyon's lean kernel for AOSP roms, i've always used imoseyon's kernel's and have always gotten amazing battery life on my GS3 and thunderbolt.
Phew i really hope this helps you with any decision you may have
***If i missed any Touchwiz or AOSP roms i do apologize, i don't know them all off the top of my head, so please don't think that just because i left yours out that i meant it in a bad way***
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thanks a bunch for the big write-up. I do live in an area that is partly 3g, part 4g, so I am a little concerned about these data drops.. Has this been fixed in the AOSP roms mentioned above?
I would hold out a few more weeks for a touchwiz based rom - I tried Incubus' and got a number of random reboots. Cleanrom 2.5 has been working great!
Currently, all the AOSP roms have the same issues -
- data drops, esp on 3g/4g handoff. There were some recent commits that claim to have fixed this, I'm not sure if it did and which rom's include it
- potential for IMEI loss or brick. Again, you should back up IMEI before any flash, I don't think these issues are present on TW
- TW camera is better. There's an AOSP JB camera mod but hasn't been updated for the newer builds yet
- GPS locks. I keep reading about this in the AOSP rom's, I don't know how common this is.
AndyMan386 said:
thanks a bunch for the big write-up. I do live in an area that is partly 3g, part 4g, so I am a little concerned about these data drops.. Has this been fixed in the AOSP roms mentioned above?
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your welcome. It ended up being a lot longer than I had originally planned. As for data drops, I'm testing a fix right now and I can confirm it works fine
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Currently, all the AOSP roms have the same issues -
- data drops, esp on 3g/4g handoff. There were some recent commits that claim to have fixed this, I'm not sure if it did and which rom's include it
- potential for IMEI loss or brick. Again, you should back up IMEI before any flash, I don't think these issues are present on TW
- TW camera is better. There's an AOSP JB camera mod but hasn't been updated for the newer builds yet
- GPS locks. I keep reading about this in the AOSP rom's, I don't know how common this is.
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Data drops were indeed fixed
Imei issues can happen when flashing anything from radios to kernels to roms both touchwiz to aosp. It can also easily be restored.
Tw camera only has a few more features, but in terms of quality their both equal to me. Once the aosp mod is updated it'll be even better.
GPS lock is simple, just get a full lock before flashing aosp and then while having it locked boot into recovery and do your thing.
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your welcome. It ended up being a lot longer than I had originally planned. As for data drops, I'm testing a fix right now and I can confirm it works fine
Data drops were indeed fixed
Imei issues can happen when flashing anything from radios to kernels to roms both touchwiz to aosp. It can also easily be restored.
Tw camera only has a few more features, but in terms of quality their both equal to me. Once the aosp mod is updated it'll be even better.
GPS lock is simple, just get a full lock before flashing aosp and then while having it locked boot into recovery and do your thing.
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link to CM10 data fix?
I have a Galaxy s blaze and i rooted it to get rid of the bloatware. I did not install CWM. Still on stock rom adn everything. I heard about "bln" and that it requires kernels that support it.
However it seems that only CM roms support this. I am satisfied with gingerbread so i will not flash any roms.
Is there not a kernel for gingerbread that i can flash?
-Thanks in advance
It's great that you recognize you are satisfied with GB, but I was also recently jealous of button light notifications so I looked a little into it, with getting them in ICS somehow. I was on stock rooted ICS for a time, found it fine, but it really seems that as time passed, advancements with features was always geared with whatever was the most recent.
Having BLN, from what I read anyways, requires both kernel support, as well as framework stuff that is usually just included with the rom. It seems the kernel stuff was on the easier side to do...
Assuming that is correct, if there's a kernel that supports BLN for it, you're going to need it in the rom anyway, and the stock rom doesn't do it. Which means you're going to be flashing anyway.
Having said all that, jellybean has some nice additions that certainly made it worthwhile for me to switch. I've been real happy with CM10, and wouldn't go back. But if I wanted to, it would literally only take a few minutes to switch back to ICS.
What I'm trying to say is...give an updated rom a try. I have a suspicion you'll not want to go back.
I get what you're saying. However for me its a more been there done that. I owned a Wildfire S and tried a lot of their roms and stuff but overall for me when it comes to phones i really like it normal. I hate now they includes their boot animations and extra backgrounds and all these extra options. I know they took their time to make it but i like the t-mobile feel of this branded t-mobile phone.
Anyway so you're saying i will have to flash roms if i want backlight features. However no GB roms support?
As I mentioned in the first reply, seemed that way to me when I was first looking for something with BLN.
As for the "boot animations and extra backgrounds and all these extra options." opinion, I'm not sure if this really makes sense to me.
Cyanogen for example, actually has a less obtrusive boot animation. I mean, it flashes Samsung briefly, than the circle shape cyanogen thing spins around for a bit, and then you can unlock your phone. I have not timed it, but I think it's even a faster boot time, this is good, right? I think most would agree the boot animation doesn't even matter, but let's be realistic, it's not like the stock boot animation on this phone is something that someone would say is cool, or anything. It just is.
As for the background situation... uh that doesn't make any sense either. As I'm sure you're aware you can use whatever background you want. Personally I have almost always used the "no wallpaper selection" because I like the plain black background. Icons and what not, are pretty much the same. Any of the "over stylized" stuff are just themes, something that's not even included with CM10 by default. If basic and not stylized is what you want, CM10 is EXACTLY that.
Heck, I'd go so far as to say that a large portion of the people who use CM10 like it for that very reason, because touchwiz is in fact the over modified monstrosity they are trying to get rid of.
As for the extra options...They are options, you don't have to use them. You don't even have to use BLN, but in your case I know you want to.
You can also very easily set it up to only have BLN active when you want it to, even on a scheduled basis, thanks to the alarm clock being able to change your profile, if you wish.
I've not used it so it's not a personal recommendation, but it sounds like AOKP might be something worth checking into for you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1989825
If the icon placement and arrangement looks foreign to you, it's just a launcher. You don't even have to use it. Just saying.
In the end, customization is what makes Android great. If you want simple and straight forward, with additional features, loading a non-stock rom is by far the best way to get it!
Again I get what you mean but I've used cm on my wildfire and I didn't like it. Yeah it's a different phone but the basic rom itself is universal if I'm not mistaken just every phone have their different features. I like touchwiz and I love how fast and responsive my phone is now. I COULD get better performance from any other mod but I'm not willing to try that. My phone and my laptop don't really come across each other a lot and I like that. I don't wanna install cmw and do all this other stuff. For instance, with my wildfire I rooted and the only reason I did a custom rom was because I messed up the stock one without doing a backup. Everything worked fine for a few months then if I tried restart the phone it would boot loop. 10 minutes later after I had to re flash it and use titanium I had the phone back but it was a hassle. Maybe bad rom maybe my fault but that's the point I'm trying to say I don't want that stress. I even got tricked into updating the wildfire which turned out to slow it down even though most people said they got better performance.
Also I mean I bought a t mobile phone from Samsung and I like the professional boot animation representing that. I actually like watching the loading bar. It boots way faster than my wildfire and I only restart it when I'm in my room anyway so speed really isn't a priority for me in this department.
I just thought bln was a cool simple idea that maybe someone would have made compatible one gb and maybe I missed it when searching. But I guess not :/
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I just thought bln was a cool simple idea that maybe someone would have made compatible one gb and maybe I missed it when searching. But I guess not :/
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It wasn't simple. Still isn't. as BLN is still buggy for us.
Thanks I guess? I'll just check In a couple months and see if they make one for gb through Odin or something. :silly:
That's not gonna happen gingerbread is a wrap. Soon ICS will be too. Open the jelly bean jar or forget about bln. I use it and love it no kinks. Plus its a lifesaver when you didn't hear a text or noti .
I've not used it so it's not a personal recommendation, but it sounds like AOKP might be something worth checking into for you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1989825
If the icon placement and arrangement looks foreign to you, it's just a launcher. You don't even have to use it. Just saying.
In the end, customization is what makes Android great. If you want simple and straight forward, with additional features, loading a non-stock rom is by far the best way to get it![/QUOTE]
I don't follow what you're saying. Couldn't find any support on bln and why that rom even exist?
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]I don't follow what you're saying. Couldn't find any support on bln and why that rom even exist?
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Aaaaaand I'm done.
So if you don't like a custom boot/shutdown animation what's stopping you from replacing it with the stock ones? That seems like a silly reason to avoid a rom
As others have stated, development for GB is over and done. If there's something you want that's missing in GB you need to change versions to get it. This rule applies to all OS's i.e. wanting trim in windows xp.
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