Alright, so without much help, I've gathered a bit of info on my own on how to do stuff with rooting and custom ROMS and Kernels, but I'm still very new to all of this so I'd like to ask a few questions instead of asking one on each individual thread. (Hate cluttering websites with n00b questions and just have people get upset because to them it's common knowledge). Also, I don't mind if you send links to answer my questions, I've searched around and all I found were UPDATES to each thing or How To install, but never explanations.
First some info about my phone:
ROM: Infused 1.5.3
Kernel: Defuse 1.5
1) What exactly does the Voodoo lagfix do? I know it changes the file system to ext4, but does it have any other scripts?
2) Why do you have to disable the Voodoo lagfix (I haven't, yet)? Or do you only have to disable it when installing a ROM? If you don't, does it really mess up ROM installs?
3) What's the difference between CWM Green and Red? My best guess is Green is using it within the OS (the Rom Manager app) and Red is through Recovery.
4) Do you have to keep the update.zip file? After all the installations are said and done, do you NEED it?
5) What files can I delete? For example the ROM downloads on my phone that Rom Manager fetched? What files shouldn't I touch, ever (except for advanced use)?
6) Will all my apps and data delete each time I install an update to the ROM? (Like if Infused updates to 1.6) I really don't like re-doing the entire first-time setup. Even though Titanium Backup backs apps and data up, it doesn't let me back up stuff like that? (Or even simply the dictionary to my SWYPE keyboard)
7) Every time I install a ROM or Kernel, do I have to delete all the Data and Cache and Delvik Cache? Because deleting Data and Cache obviously removes my apps and settings etc.
8) (Combination of 6+7) So if I wanted to update my ROM from 1.5 to 1.6, I'd still have to delete all that data?
Those are all the questions I have for now, thank you. <3
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Khyrdantai said:
Alright, so without much help, I've gathered a bit of info on my own on how to do stuff with rooting and custom ROMS and Kernels, but I'm still very new to all of this so I'd like to ask a few questions instead of asking one on each individual thread. (Hate cluttering websites with n00b questions and just have people get upset because to them it's common knowledge).
First some info about my phone:
ROM: Infused 1.5.3
Kernel: Defuse 1.5
1) What exactly does the Voodoo lagfix do? I know it changes the file system to ext4, but does it have any other scripts?
2) Why do you have to disable the Voodoo lagfix (I haven't, yet)? Or do you only have to disable it when installing a ROM? If you don't, does it really mess up ROM installs?
3) What's the difference between CWM Green and Red? My best guess is Green is using it within the OS (the Rom Manager app) and Red is through Recovery.
4) Do you have to keep the update.zip file? After all the installations are said and done, do you NEED it?
5) What files can I delete? For example the ROM downloads on my phone that Rom Manager fetched? What files shouldn't I touch, ever (except for advanced use)?
6) Will all my apps and data delete each time I install an update to the ROM? (Like if Infused updates to 1.6) I really don't like re-doing the entire first-time setup. Even though Titanium Backup backs apps and data up, it doesn't let me back up stuff like that? (Or even simply the dictionary to my SWYPE keyboard)
7) Every time I install a ROM or Kernel, do I have to delete all the Data and Cache and Delvik Cache? Because deleting Data and Cache obviously removes my apps and settings etc.
8) (Combination of 6+7) So if I wanted to update my ROM from 1.5 to 1.6, I'd still have to delete all that data?
Those are all the questions I have for now, thank you. <3
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You are just asking way too many questions, especially for being a n00b
Perhaps you will have better luck by using the "search" feature here in the forums.....
When I was a N00b I was lucky to get even ONE of my questions answered!
I don't know about infused 1.6, was under the impression that it'd be gb, might want to wipe data with that one
no need to clear data if you upgrade to a custom rom from stock atm but maybe in the future it'll be a good idea. upgrading fro different versions of the same rom without wiping data as long as the firmware veraion is the same should be ok. if the firmware is updated it is questionable, Samsung roms change odd things and upgrading can cause force closes if data is not wiped. id imagine Samsung updates have scripts to correct the issues I the old data causes.
switching from one custom rom to another it might be a good idea to clear data.
use titanium backup and backup apps, you can backup app and system data but never restore system data to a new firmware version. app data is usually ok but not recommended. clearing cache is always ok, clearing dalvik cache is always recommended for any flash you do.
voodoo should only be disabled before returning to stock, I used to have to odin flash twice on my captivate sometimes to restore the phone to stock if I switched from a jfs enabled ulf kernel to a voodoo kernel if I forgot to disable lagfix. right now there are only voodoo kernels, there isn't too much reason to confuse the community with different types of lagfixes so don't think too much about disabling lagfix till there are alternatives to voodoo.
voodoo converts the file system to ext4 which is the google standard. Samsung uses a weird spinoff of fat32 that they branded rfs and they use on there tvs and other devices. rfs can slow the device down in theory and it certainly benchmarks lower.
I'm hoping to see a nilfs2 conversion on an aosp cm7 kernel eventually. nilfs2 is designed for flash memory and eliminates a lot of the time used to overwrite and move files. I saw quadrant scores on the nexus s at around 3500 with nilfs2 stagefright settings changed and some overclock.
Khyrdantai said:
Alright, so without much help, I've gathered a bit of info on my own on how to do stuff with rooting and custom ROMS and Kernels, but I'm still very new to all of this so I'd like to ask a few questions instead of asking one on each individual thread. (Hate cluttering websites with n00b questions and just have people get upset because to them it's common knowledge). Also, I don't mind if you send links to answer my questions, I've searched around and all I found were UPDATES to each thing or How To install, but never explanations.
First some info about my phone:
ROM: Infused 1.5.3
Kernel: Defuse 1.5
1) What exactly does the Voodoo lagfix do? I know it changes the file system to ext4, but does it have any other scripts?
2) Why do you have to disable the Voodoo lagfix (I haven't, yet)? Or do you only have to disable it when installing a ROM? If you don't, does it really mess up ROM installs?
3) What's the difference between CWM Green and Red? My best guess is Green is using it within the OS (the Rom Manager app) and Red is through Recovery.
4) Do you have to keep the update.zip file? After all the installations are said and done, do you NEED it?
5) What files can I delete? For example the ROM downloads on my phone that Rom Manager fetched? What files shouldn't I touch, ever (except for advanced use)?
6) Will all my apps and data delete each time I install an update to the ROM? (Like if Infused updates to 1.6) I really don't like re-doing the entire first-time setup. Even though Titanium Backup backs apps and data up, it doesn't let me back up stuff like that? (Or even simply the dictionary to my SWYPE keyboard)
7) Every time I install a ROM or Kernel, do I have to delete all the Data and Cache and Delvik Cache? Because deleting Data and Cache obviously removes my apps and settings etc.
8) (Combination of 6+7) So if I wanted to update my ROM from 1.5 to 1.6, I'd still have to delete all that data?
Those are all the questions I have for now, thank you. <3
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I think lagfix might do some other filesystem tuning (journaling settings and such) that differ from default, but not sure.
You need to disable Lagfix when moving to any ROM/kernel that does not support ext4, as the kernel won't recognize the filesystem. Right now this means the stock kernel - all alternate kernels out there have ext4 support.
As I understand it, green CWM doesn't understand ext4. Red does. I'm not entirely sure on this one though.
You don't need to keep the update.zip unless you want to re-apply it. I keep a copy of everything I currently have flashed, and a copy of whatever I was last running stable, in case I have a weird problem "on the go"
Apps and data don't automatically delete when installing a ROM, but using CWM's "wipe data" function is always recommended when changing to a new ROM. In general:
1) If changing only a kernel, no need to wipe anything
2) If applying an update to a newer version of a ROM you're already running, usually no need to wipe unless the ROM author says that release needs a wipe. However, you WILL almost surely have to wipe before the next Infused, as the next Infused version will likely be Gingerbread.
3) If changing to a different ROM, you should wipe
Wiping Dalvik cache occasionally is a good idea, and won't cause your apps to lose settings.
Misterjunky said:
You are just asking way too many questions, especially for being a n00b
Perhaps you will have better luck by using the "search" feature here in the forums.....
When I was a N00b I was lucky to get even ONE of my questions answered!
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That's why I made a thread, because the "search" feature didn't do much help, nobody directly asked these questions that I saw (at least using search and scouting out the comments).
I have faith in people, there's a lot who are willing to help out someone in search of knowledge. ^_^
Dani897 said:
I don't know about infused 1.6, was under the impression that it'd be gb, might want to wipe data with that one
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Just using 1.6 as an example.
Thanks for some clearing up on information, though!
Entropy512 said:
I think lagfix might do some other filesystem tuning (journaling settings and such) that differ from default, but not sure.
You need to disable Lagfix when moving to any ROM/kernel that does not support ext4, as the kernel won't recognize the filesystem. Right now this means the stock kernel - all alternate kernels out there have ext4 support.
As I understand it, green CWM doesn't understand ext4. Red does. I'm not entirely sure on this one though.
You don't need to keep the update.zip unless you want to re-apply it. I keep a copy of everything I currently have flashed, and a copy of whatever I was last running stable, in case I have a weird problem "on the go"
Apps and data don't automatically delete when installing a ROM, but using CWM's "wipe data" function is always recommended when changing to a new ROM. In general:
1) If changing only a kernel, no need to wipe anything
2) If applying an update to a newer version of a ROM you're already running, usually no need to wipe unless the ROM author says that release needs a wipe. However, you WILL almost surely have to wipe before the next Infused, as the next Infused version will likely be Gingerbread.
3) If changing to a different ROM, you should wipe
Wiping Dalvik cache occasionally is a good idea, and won't cause your apps to lose settings.
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Very helpful as always.
Great post and thanks, I had some of the same questions.
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yes voodoo has aditional tweeks to the mount options and I think the cache in non journalling , I don't know specifics. and thank entropy for the better explanation on the wipe/dont wipe situation.
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I've flashed a few roms now (masters stock rooted voodoo versions of nexus s firmware) and every time I do the boot logo just keeps on going until I do a battery pull and reboot, and then it's ok.
It's not a problem, I just wondered why this happens??
did you wipe dalvik, factory settings, cache?
did you change the kernel?
zephiK said:
did you wipe dalvik, factory settings, cache?
did you change the kernel?
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No. These roms don't wipe anything and I don't want to lose my stuff. I don't think you are meant to wipe with them either.
buachaille said:
No. These roms don't wipe anything and I don't want to lose my stuff. I don't think you are meant to wipe with them either.
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I was asking if YOU did wipe them because if you're going from one ROM to the other ROM you are supposed to wipe.
You lose your settings and apps. Back them up using Titanium Backup (Or any other related app).
Or.. better yet, just perform a nandroid backup. After that, wipe those 3 and reboot. See if the problem is resolved, if it is then you already know. If not then nandroid restore.
If you're going from one ROM to a completely different ROM made by someone else, you have to wipe data/factory settings!
If you're flashing an updated version of the current rom you're using, wipe cache/dalvik-cache.
If you're flashing different roms every other day, go buy Titanium Backup to backup your apps/settings.
And uh what ROM are u flashing where "you're not meant to wipe"
-Nexus S
nxt said:
If you're going from one ROM to a completely different ROM made by someone else, you have to wipe data/factory settings!
If you're flashing an updated version of the current rom you're using, wipe cache/dalvik-cache.
If you're flashing different roms every other day, go buy Titanium Backup to backup your apps/settings.
And uh what ROM are u flashing where "you're not meant to wipe"
-Nexus S
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I am new to this so I'm still getting my head around it.
From stock I went to the rooted voodoo version of this - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=971690.
From there I went to the stock rooted version of this - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=979851
In both cases it says:
Rom Information:
Does it wipe: No
Does it flash the radio: Yes
So since they don't wipe, I assumed I shouldn't wipe anything, but it looks like I was wrong. From your post it looks like I should have wiped the cache and dalvik cache. I know how to do this in CW but I've never done it and my roms are working fine.
So next time master releases an update I gather I should wipe cache and dalvik cache yeah?
Also, when I do this will it remove any of my settings or apps?
Hope you can answer these questions, and thanks for advice so far.
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Just did a bit of googling and it looks like you don't lose settings when you wipe dalvik cache and cache, so what does actually get removed.
There is a thread stickied in development called ref roms themes and kernels. It gives step by step directions on how to flash all three including what should be wiped. Check it out
Sent from my MattedBlues CM7 Nexus S from the XDA Premium app.
It says:
Does it wipe: No
Does it flash the radio: Yes
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because its saying that the ROM doesn't wipe. Some ROMs are built in a way so that it automatically wipes your phone to ensure best performance. The creator is just saying that it doesn't do that BUT you need to wipe. The keyword does and need are two different things. The basic concept between going from 1 ROM to another (unless its the same ROM series) requires a wipe in all three: dalvik, cache, factory. If you're going from the same ROM to a newer version and encounter bugs, its best if you wipe.
I'm a more advanced user when it comes to Android since the first Android phone. I know what I'm talking about. When you go from stock ROM to another, its going to have bugs if you don't wipe.
If you're using Axura 1.1.1.0 and its fine, and he releases a new version. You can flash without wiping (but you can wipe cache & dalvik to be safe; none of your settings will be wiped). Wiping factory settings is the only one that will wipe your settings / apps.
If you're going to be a flasher, its best if you purchase Titanium Backup Pro (or MyBackup.. but I highly recommend Titanium Backup). Use this program and it will save all of your apps + settings to them. Just don't use it to save SYSTEM apps/files because it will cause FCs.
Dalvik Cache / Cache.. its nothing you need to know in particular. It's just removing cache that your phone set up to increase speeds. It just wipes them and gets the Android system to re-establish them. So no caches from the previous ROM will carry over onto the new one.
EDIT: n/m..............
zephiK said:
It says:
because its saying that the ROM doesn't wipe. Some ROMs are built in a way so that it automatically wipes your phone to ensure best performance. The creator is just saying that it doesn't do that BUT you need to wipe. The keyword does and need are two different things. The basic concept between going from 1 ROM to another (unless its the same ROM series) requires a wipe in all three: dalvik, cache, factory. If you're going from the same ROM to a newer version and encounter bugs, its best if you wipe.
I'm a more advanced user when it comes to Android since the first Android phone. I know what I'm talking about. When you go from stock ROM to another, its going to have bugs if you don't wipe.
If you're using Axura 1.1.1.0 and its fine, and he releases a new version. You can flash without wiping (but you can wipe cache & dalvik to be safe; none of your settings will be wiped). Wiping factory settings is the only one that will wipe your settings / apps.
If you're going to be a flasher, its best if you purchase Titanium Backup Pro (or MyBackup.. but I highly recommend Titanium Backup). Use this program and it will save all of your apps + settings to them. Just don't use it to save SYSTEM apps/files because it will cause FCs.
Dalvik Cache / Cache.. its nothing you need to know in particular. It's just removing cache that your phone set up to increase speeds. It just wipes them and gets the Android system to re-establish them. So no caches from the previous ROM will carry over onto the new one.
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That is a very helpful post and clears a lot up. Many thanks. Looks like I had better do it again and do it right this time.
I've got titanium backup. Bought it after I rooted, but never restored with it yet. Also, thanks for the info about no saving system files with it, as I currently do have it setup to backup all user apps and system data, so I will have to change that. I gather I should just change it to all user apps??
buachaille said:
That is a very helpful post and clears a lot up. Many thanks. Looks like I had better do it again and do it right this time.
I've got titanium backup. Bought it after I rooted, but never restored with it yet. Also, thanks for the info about no saving system files with it, as I currently do have it setup to backup all user apps and system data, so I will have to change that. I gather I should just change it to all user apps??
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Backup all user apps is the one you want to do. You can backup bookmarks using Google sync or a app known as BookmarkSB
If you have system apps backed up, delete all backups using batch and reapply user app backup
zephiK said:
Backup all user apps is the one you want to do. You can backup bookmarks using Google sync or a app known as BookmarkSB
If you have system apps backed up, delete all backups using batch and reapply user app backup
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Thanks for your help. I reflashed the rom and I did it properly this time. Had a bit of a problem with TB restore as I'm a noob but Joel from TB answered an email I sent him very quickly and I got it sorted (thanks joel).
How long does it take to flash a rom once you get good at it? Took me a while tonight because of mistakes.
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App
buachaille said:
Thanks for your help. I reflashed the rom and I did it properly this time. Had a bit of a problem with TB restore as I'm a noob but Joel from TB answered an email I sent him very quickly and I got it sorted (thanks joel).
How long does it take to flash a rom once you get good at it? Took me a while tonight because of mistakes.
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App
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I can usually get from booting into recovery to having a usable device with most everything set up in about...10 minutes? Assuming I already downloaded the ROM lol sometimes those mirrors are slooooooow.
Hi all I've been using my MT4G for a long time now, rooted and running CM7.1 with original kernel. Finally decided after all this time to flash a new kernel and update to 7.2 and have a few questions as I haven't made any root changes to it since first rooting...
1. Should I flash the ROM update or the new kernel first?
2.Obviously I'll do a nandroid and app backup, but I run S2E, will updating affect my SD-EXT settings and files?
3. I have a few apps that I used Titanium Backup to "convert to system apps" and then to "integrate updates of system apps into ROM." What will happen to these when I update to CM7.2?
3. I like to do thorough research before doing anything and was wondering if there is a list of kernels good for the MT4G when using CM7.2. Or if anyone has some good suggestions for the best kernels to improve battery and speed?
I've mostly decided to update now because lately my battery use for cell standby has been insane and I'm barely getting 4 hours out of it. It's looking for data signals constantly and I was told I need to update the PRL and that by using the latest CM and a new kernel I would fix this. Can someone please confirm this to be true so I know I am doing the right thing to fix my issues. Thanks.
Appreciate all the help, you guys are the best!
Jen
Sorraia3 said:
Hi all I've been using my MT4G for a long time now, rooted and running CM7.1 with original kernel. Finally decided after all this time to flash a new kernel and update to 7.2 and have a few questions as I haven't made any root changes to it since first rooting...
1. Should I flash the ROM update or the new kernel first?
2.Obviously I'll do a nandroid and app backup, but I run S2E, will updating affect my SD-EXT settings and files?
3. I have a few apps that I used Titanium Backup to "convert to system apps" and then to "integrate updates of system apps into ROM." What will happen to these when I update to CM7.2?
3. I like to do thorough research before doing anything and was wondering if there is a list of kernels good for the MT4G when using CM7.2. Or if anyone has some good suggestions for the best kernels to improve battery and speed?
I've mostly decided to update now because lately my battery use for cell standby has been insane and I'm barely getting 4 hours out of it. It's looking for data signals constantly and I was told I need to update the PRL and that by using the latest CM and a new kernel I would fix this. Can someone please confirm this to be true so I know I am doing the right thing to fix my issues. Thanks.
Appreciate all the help, you guys are the best!
Jen
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1. Install ROM before kernel. If you reboot before flashing the kernel, wipe cache and dalvik cache.
2. If you're using a script or any special settings you will need to redo these. Your sd-ext partition will only be affected if you wipe it, which you probably should.
3. Pull the apk's from system that you integrated and put them on your sd card. After installing your new ROM put them in system/app and change permissions to rw, r, r.
3 (Again?). For AOSP/CM7 GB use either thederekjay's kernel or the tiamat. Both are great. A simple google search of these names will garner useful results.
Yes, you're doing the right thing. Be sure you do a full wipe. I highly recommend using 4EXT Recovery.
i had a problem similar to yours with regards to battery life and i wish i could remember who to credit for this, but the suggestion was to only restore user apps from TBu and reconfigure system apps/settings to your desire. well, it worked and i have pretty awesome battery life.
for your kernel question i would have to agree that the thederekjay kernel for CM7 is a great choice.
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I'm rooted and running stock 4.1.1 on Kernel 3.0.31. I would like to flash CM10 and have a couple of questions.
1. If I use Titanium Backup to save all my apps and data, can I restore them after flashing CM10 without any issues?
2. I beleive CM10 comes with it's own kernel, please confirm.
3. If CM10 comes with it's own kernel, is there a better kernel out there or is ibetter to stick with the one with CM10?
4. Should I just flash a stock CM10 nightly and gapps or is there a better custome rom with CM10 built in?
Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks ::laugh:
snyperr said:
I'm rooted and running stock 4.1.1 on Kernel 3.0.31. I would like to flash CM10 and have a couple of questions.
1. If I use Titanium Backup to save all my apps and data, can I restore them after flashing CM10 without any issues?
2. I beleive CM10 comes with it's own kernel, please confirm.
3. If CM10 comes with it's own kernel, is there a better kernel out there or is ibetter to stick with the one with CM10?
4. Should I just flash a stock CM10 nightly and gapps or is there a better custome rom with CM10 built in?
Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks ::laugh:
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1. Should work for most apps, if not all apps
2. It does come with a Kernel
3. It's up to you, Matr1x and Air kernel are good alternatives
4. I like Androxide for a CM10 like rom. It's stable enough and has most of the good features
petenatas said:
1. Should work for most apps, if not all apps
2. It does come with a Kernel
3. It's up to you, Matr1x and Air kernel are good alternatives
4. I like Androxide for a CM10 like rom. It's stable enough and has most of the good features
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Thanks petenatas!
Besides wiping all the caches, do I need to also wipe all data/user info? This will mean on first boot up i would need to re-enter all my user info, right?
snyperr said:
Thanks petenatas!
Besides wiping all the caches, do I need to also wipe all data/user info? This will mean on first boot up i would need to re-enter all my user info, right?
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If you have CWM, do a data/factory reset before the installation, else CM10 will not boot
Yes, it's a complete re-installation. Your SD card will be safe though
You can also re-install from Play Store in My Apps / All
But if you enter you Google account at start-up and set up your wi-fi, it should re-install all the apps on it's own
petenatas said:
If you have CWM, do a data/factory reset before the installation, else CM10 will not boot
Yes, it's a complete re-installation. Your SD card will be safe though
You can also re-install from Play Store in My Apps / All
But if you enter you Google account at start-up and set up your wi-fi, it should re-install all the apps on it's own
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Excellent, thanks again for your quick help!
snyperr said:
I'm rooted and running stock 4.1.1 on Kernel 3.0.31. I would like to flash CM10 and have a couple of questions.
1. If I use Titanium Backup to save all my apps and data, can I restore them after flashing CM10 without any issues?
2. I beleive CM10 comes with it's own kernel, please confirm.
3. If CM10 comes with it's own kernel, is there a better kernel out there or is ibetter to stick with the one with CM10?
4. Should I just flash a stock CM10 nightly and gapps or is there a better custome rom with CM10 built in?
Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks ::laugh:
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I use Titanium for the apps I really need the data for. I will stop all updates through the store as soon as I get on a new ROM. Get TB restore apps with essential data. I will often just go through the store for others since I have had a few issues in the past doing everything through TB (lag, not working properly, Force closing).
I often use Matr1x cfs or bfs (CFS is a nice overall scheduler, with nice stability and it is good for a multitasker. BFS is a performance scheduler giving more performance to the currently running app, like a game. So if you aren’t really a multitasker or if you play a lot of games, BFS is a better choice. -- source http://matr1xkernels.com/category/matr1x-kernels/)
Thalamus is very stable, more stockish so there is less extras (BLN, BLD, OC, etc) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1651756
Try CM10 but I suggest you try many and decide for yourself. Ebvery phone is different and every user wants/likes different things as thay become "flashaholics" Just remember there is no "best ROM" Everything has some sort of bug.
stempox has an amazing always up to date complation of ROMs and Kernels http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721856
Finally clean install:
if you get a cluster f*#@ of problems then clean install. It isn't that hard. Use Titanium Backup and good to go.
In Recovery:
1. wipe data/factory reset (this formats /data, /cache and .android_secure on sd)
2. format /system, /boot
this leaves you with only bootloader, recovery and radio...dalvik-cache resides on /data, so it's gone already.
3. flash rom
4. gapps & custom-kernel (if needed). No need to let the phone boot & settle before flashing them (most custom-kernels have a script that automatically wipes /cache & dalvik during kernel-install)
5. reboot
6. Run TB -- restore missing apps with data --1st option under restore
just updating rom:
1. flash rom-zip
2. wipe /cache and dalvik-cache
3. reboot
Do this before reporting any issues on the thread since the problems are often related to this and not the ROM or kernel.
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I use Titanium for the apps I really need the data for. I will stop all updates through the store as soon as I get on a new ROM. Get TB restore apps with essential data. I will often just go through the store for others since I have had a few issues in the past doing everything through TB (lag, not working properly, Force closing).
I often use Matr1x cfs or bfs (CFS is a nice overall scheduler, with nice stability and it is good for a multitasker. BFS is a performance scheduler giving more performance to the currently running app, like a game. So if you aren’t really a multitasker or if you play a lot of games, BFS is a better choice. -- source http://matr1xkernels.com/category/matr1x-kernels/)
Thalamus is very stable, more stockish so there is less extras (BLN, BLD, OC, etc) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1651756
Try CM10 but I suggest you try many and decide for yourself. Ebvery phone is different and every user wants/likes different things as thay become "flashaholics" Just remember there is no "best ROM" Everything has some sort of bug.
stempox has an amazing always up to date complation of ROMs and Kernels http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721856
Finally clean install:
if you get a cluster f*#@ of problems then clean install. It isn't that hard. Use Titanium Backup and good to go.
In Recovery:
1. wipe data/factory reset (this formats /data, /cache and .android_secure on sd)
2. format /system, /boot
this leaves you with only bootloader, recovery and radio...dalvik-cache resides on /data, so it's gone already.
3. flash rom
4. gapps & custom-kernel (if needed). No need to let the phone boot & settle before flashing them (most custom-kernels have a script that automatically wipes /cache & dalvik during kernel-install)
5. reboot
6. Run TB -- restore missing apps with data --1st option under restore
just updating rom:
1. flash rom-zip
2. wipe /cache and dalvik-cache
3. reboot
Do this before reporting any issues on the thread since the problems are often related to this and not the ROM or kernel.
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Wow, thanks jayjay. That's a ton of great info! I know what I'm doing tomorrow night! Cheers!
[Thread in wrong area! Mods please move to AT&T S4 under Q/A!]
I recently rooted/installed CleanROM for my S4, but now I have some basic questions regarding what actually happened in the process and how I could improve it. (First smartphone, first Android).
1. Is flashing the exact equivalent of installing a kernel/ROM/app in a recovery like TeamWin that is zipped in an SD card? All I did was select my zipped file and install--the guide says to use GooManager but I never used it. Also, does updating TWRP, kernel, or ROM (same application/kernel/ROM, but newer version) require that you delete the old ZIP, copy over the new ZIP, then install it? Is there a cleaner method (I feel that since we have to wipe to prevent old files from interfering with new ROM that maybe parts of the old version of a ROM may be redundant or may interfere with the new ROM?
2. Is there a way I can save the phone settings when dealing with one ROM and transferring these settings to another ROM? I really don't want to spend 20 minutes to go through all the settings and change it to my liking every time I install a new ROM.
3. With TWRP I could backup the entire ROM and also be able to install that backup ROM if I don't like the new ROM installed? What does Titanium Backup offer in regards to this aside from backing up app data and the ability freeze/uninstall system apps?
4. Does Titanium Backup leave any residual files? I see other apps designed to uninstall system apps and Titanium Backup seems like an all-in-one jack of all trades.
5. I thought I wiped everything and to me, that sounds like reformatting the entire drive. I only wiped system, boot, and data though (good enough for ROMs, according to what I've read). I was surprised when I saw my videos that I had already backed up to my PC accessible on the phone. Should I just wipe literally everything (I assume it would be cleaner) like cache, preload, EFS, modem, recovery, etc.? Will wiping literally everything be like reformatting my phone (since my phone was not reformatted because my personal videos was still there when I installed my custom ROM? If I were to install completely different ROMs cleanly and wanted to keep my personal files, I would only need to wipe system, data, and boot?
4. Do I have to use CASUAL again to install an updated TWRP?
5. Does backing up a ROM also backup its root? I'm going to assume this is a dumb question and the answer is no. I'm also guessing I have to block OTA updates from AT&T to ensure I keep my root. How would I go about doing this? Also, would my phone be "safe" if I stick to my ROM (no updates or anything) for 4+ years? I'm asking this as an extreme case because I feel like I'm missing out on AT&T security updates that could protect my phone and also I don't think the developer my ROM (CleanROM) will do frequent updates).
6. I had problems with my computer not being able to recognize my phone and my SD card in the phone after I wiped everything and before I installed a ROM. I literally had to take the SD card from the phone and use an SD card reader to transfer my custom ROM/loki then put it back into the phone. Was I missing a driver?
7. What are some must-have apps a newly rooted user would want?
8. I read that you only need 1 EFS backup and you don't need to back it up every time you are going to install a custom ROM. Can I get a confirmation?
9. What does Goo Manager do and would I want it?
10. Is it essential that I keep up to date with news about my custom ROM/phone to ensure my phone is secured?
**Not Root/ROM related--Is swiping an app away from the Recent Apps List (long-press home button) the equivalent of killing an app? I use the Recent Apps List often but I don't want to go about swiping apps away if means it is killing it, since I read that killing apps are bad and actually drains battery life. Also, is there a mod that lets you access the Recent Apps List by long-pressing the menu one? I only see a mod that kills the app if you long-press it.
Thanks. I'm hoping for many responses as I have more questions to ask but not a lot of free time (I will check back on this thread every several hours until there are no more responses on the thread.
I think you are in the wrong forum.
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I think you are in the wrong forum.
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I know, I clicked the edit/delete thread but can't find the delete button. Under reason for editing I told the mods to move it to AT&T S4 under Q/A. I'm new to XDA, what should I do?
otumsel and
just wait,someone will be along and move it.
This second hand Infuse is running Froyo.uckh1 2.2.1 and kernel 2.6.32.9 and I've managed to root it, have green CMW 2.5.1.2 installed and rom manager installed (free ver). My goal is a stable newer stable custom ROM while keeping all the main functions working. the phone has no data to back up. I have been reading a lot of posts on how to upgrade to a custom ROM and i was trying to avoid having to flash it if possible (would like to stay with android)and let rom manager do it. can that be done? also which one should i try ? i know that this has been answered many times but i don't want to brick it and was looking for some guidance.
Thanks a lot and happy new year to all.
How did you root this phone...I was just given this phone and can't root it. My other phone is a galaxy 3 and that was a piece of cake...please help.
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mikeka said:
This second hand Infuse is running Froyo.uckh1 2.2.1 and kernel 2.6.32.9 and I've managed to root it, have green CMW 2.5.1.2 installed and rom manager installed (free ver). My goal is a stable newer stable custom ROM while keeping all the main functions working. the phone has no data to back up. I have been reading a lot of posts on how to upgrade to a custom ROM and i was trying to avoid having to flash it if possible (would like to stay with android)and let rom manager do it. can that be done? also which one should i try ? i know that this has been answered many times but i don't want to brick it and was looking for some guidance.
Thanks a lot and happy new year to all.
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Solution 1:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1705260
Solution 2:
READ: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1293751
I don't know anything about green CWM red is available on the link provided though if it becomes an issue. You'll need a CWM flashable ROM and it sounds like you want a cleaned up stock version, others seems to have themes and other options you may not want, I didn't, performance is fine but I really didn't want to change the look. In that case you'll want this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1508619
You'll find a working link in the last few pages of the thread.
Download it to your download directory on the SD which is built in the phone.
Also download this kernel:
2013.04.30-CWM-Synthesis-1.2Ghz.zip
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25724526#post25724526
or this one:
DD_03042012.zip - [Click for QR Code] (6.31 MB, 3966 views)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1212795
In CWM wipe data/factory reset, wipe cache, wipe dalvik cache, format system, format data, format cache, install zip from SD card select ROM and flash then install zip from SD card select kernel and flash then reboot you'll have to uninstall the ATT stuff yourself or not, be careful that you don't remove apps needed by the system to function or by other system apps, most of the stuff with ATT in the name is safe and you need to remove tethering manager to be able to ever tether. Titanium backup root (TB) can uninstall them, be sure to first backup your new stock ROM in CWM before you start making changes because if you rip out the wrong apps you'll need to restore to boot. Use TB to backup an app if your not sure so you might not have to do a full restore. Be patient during boots.