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I'm looking to get a new phone, I've got the T-mobile Wing atm. I'm getting pretty tired of its beefy size, and slow processing / menu lag. So I'm looking for suggestions on a quicker phone, that will work or can be flashed to work with t-mobile? I like the Touch and Touch pro so far. The shift as well but that thing is way out of my price range for a phone and ridiculously big =x.
any gsm phone can be unlocked and work on the t-mobile network
...ps unlocking doesn't require a rom flash
First off, this is a complaint post. I truley grateful for you cooks, and programmers at this site. The following is just my observations (for better and for worse) on how this hard-spl affected me. The rhodium is my fourth smartphone that ive owned and unlocked from this site, so i slightly experineced with the unlock proccess (the mda, g1, and the kaiser). Although with this device, however the results of this hspl crack is most intriguing.
Lets start with..
The Good - For the most part its free. This means the gift of being able to try out other peoples roms is something anyone can enjoy. This is what xda is all about, or atleast this is what we cherish the most.
The Bad - Right after I installed oplix hspl and flashed my new rom, the camera doesnt want to load. It either the "data frame" message or the "driver" error. I trying everything except "relock" the hspl (flashed stock rom, stock radio, hard resets, that mitty wipe, camera cabs, registry edits,) . Im no expert, but some thing tells me its that Olinix. Does anybody know if this could be one of those "know issues" that sometimes happen with the verizon version?
The Ugly? -
Well, uglys not really the best word... atleast not yet. You see I realized just today, every since I sim-unlocked my phone (although not CID unlock) I discovered the most suprising thing, Free Data access! And no im not refering to Opera mini, im talkin about pocket twitter, facebook, youtube (low quality only), opera mobile, PIE, htc weather, the whole enchilada.
Now for all you people thinking this sounds too good to be true, well your right. There is one major flaw with the data stream, which i will get to later. First let me describe my exact circumstance to achive this oddity.
My rhodium is verizon. Its sim unlocked (but not security unlocked!), and im using a Tmobile prepaid sim with the sidekick plan. There is a balance of 0$ on my account, and it hasnt been active for a couple months. I have oplix hspl and a Mighty Rom installed. I deleted the verizon apn from connection settings and made a new one with the T-mobile apn, but i still named it Verizon anyways cuz im weird like that... After experimentation, i found out that it only works with the radio in Global mode. Good thing with a US sim inserted, the phone always defaults to GSM mode anyways... or atleast it does for me Under these conditions, I still get data access despite the fact that the sidekick plan doesnt include data access, and also the fact that THERES NO MONEY in my prepaid account.
Ok now to the ugly: The Catch. As i said before there is a catch to the "free data". That is its nowhere near 3g speeds, even for tmobile standards. Its like 8mbs/hr download speeds (using IE, not Opera mini). I know that seems horrid but theres a lot of things on you phone that requires a data plan (if no wifi available) thats very low bandwitdh. That social app updates, email sync, weather update, casual browsing, low quality youtube stream if desperate enough. Lets face it, we cant be surrounded by wifi all the time; so even getting dail-up_ish data access for free could be use be nice.
Just for the heck of it, heres my theroy why the bandwitdh is so slow. It seems to me that its due to constant interruption. For expamle when i go to google from IE, the web page seems to load a bit then stop 1/3 of the way. This Tmobiles server restricting access, and usually the browser would just quit after a couple of seconds. But for some reason it looks like the phones radio "reboots" just before the browser would normally time-out, and therefore able to "steal" another 1/3 of web page from the apn again and again. This play between APN and radio isnt too obvious and some may just pass it off as just a really low bandwitdh service.
This is very freaky behavior. Ever since Tmobile "secured" their sidekick prepaid data access to only sidekicks, i have not been able (with the exception of opera mini) access data from tmobiles hiptop APN. I wonder what make this device so special? Is because its a world phone? or are the newer radio patches able to reconnect faster? Well anyways am i the only one who noticed this, or am I losing it?
you're blaming the wrong people, t-mobile and at&t run on different gsm bands here in the states. you'll get 3g speeds in any country but not north america.
Not a single one of your complaints has anything to do with the Hard SPL. The camera access is determined by the software drivers in the ROM. Ask about it in the thread of whatever ROM you are using.
The 3G access for T-Mobile(1700/2100) is on a completely different frequency than your Verizon(800/1900) device. This is defined by the hardware, not the software. There is no "radio patch" to allow such a thing. You will never get more than EDGE speeds on the Verizon TP2 on T-Mobile's network. Just enjoy your free data access.
cajunflavoredbob said:
Not a single one of your complaints has anything to do with the Hard SPL. The camera access is determined by the software drivers in the ROM. Ask about it in the thread of whatever ROM you are using.
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Im not too sure about that because I havent been able to get the camera working with ANY rom - and i tried a dozen already, even stock. I guess the only way for me to rule out my theroy, would be to take out hspl and reload official rom and radio. Im a little hesitant about that since you only get one free unlock from olinex, so im on the fence still.
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The 3G access for T-Mobile(1700/2100) is on a completely different frequency than your Verizon(800/1900) device. This is defined by the hardware, not the software. There is no "radio patch" to allow such a thing. You will never get more than EDGE speeds on the Verizon TP2 on T-Mobile's network. Just enjoy your free data access.
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Well, the icon at top is "E" symbol which i assume is for edge, because while commuting it would change to the "G" which i presume is a step below edge. Is this just a glitch in the WM OS?
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Im not too sure about that because I havent been able to get the camera working with ANY rom - and i tried a dozen already, even stock. I guess the only way for me to rule out my theroy, would be to take out hspl and reload official rom and radio. Im a little hesitant about that since you only get one free unlock from olinex, so im on the fence still.
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If it isn't working on the stock ROM, then you've very likely got a defective device. Hard SPL has nothing to do with the camera. Set it back to stock everything and do a warranty exchange/repair if you still have time. Check with HTC to see when it will expire if it hasn't already. You normally get 15 months from HTC on a brand new device.
Well, the icon at top is "E" symbol which i assume is for edge, because while commuting it would change to the "G" which i presume is a step below edge. Is this just a glitch in the WM OS?
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Why would that be a glitch? The service is determined by whatever the tower has. If the tower you're connected to has EDGE service, it will say EDGE. If it has only GPRS, then it will say GPRS. You will never be able to 3G from T-Mobile on the Verizon model. The hardware does not have the capability.
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Not a single one of your complaints has anything to do with the Hard SPL. The camera access is determined by the software drivers in the ROM. Ask about it in the thread of whatever ROM you are using.
The 3G access for T-Mobile(1700/2100) is on a completely different frequency than your Verizon(800/1900) device. This is defined by the hardware, not the software. There is no "radio patch" to allow such a thing. You will never get more than EDGE speeds on the Verizon TP2 on T-Mobile's network. Just enjoy your free data access.
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Agh, I cant take it anymore. Im gotta rule out the possiblity once and for all. Im going to revert hspl, radio, rom back to stock. Ill report back with the results... crossing my fingers!
Does the XTC Clip supports the HTC Status (USA AT&T custom version of the ChaCha)?
As the titles says, does the XTC Clip works on the HTC Status? Anyone with some experience on it?
Thanks.
Just to explain: XTC Clip works on any HTC phone (hardware dependent). What you are asking is if it's working some custom ROM (software dependent). Get it?
And btw, Status = ChaCha. Status is not a custom AT&T version of ChaCha, it's just that HTC had a legal issue with the www.chacha.com company so they had to use a different name for marketing.
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Just to explain: XTC Clip works on any HTC phone (hardware dependent). What you are asking is if it's working some custom ROM (software dependent). Get it?
And btw, Status = ChaCha. Status is not a custom AT&T version of ChaCha, it's just that HTC had a legal issue with the www.chacha.com company so they had to use a different name for marketing.
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I would have thought that the Status was actually a custom version of the ChaCha as AT&T uses network frequencies that no one else uses which I suspect would require a different radio chip and radio firmware. Also the Status comes with all the AT&T crapware loaded and has a few features blocked (like USB tethering and wifi hotspot) unless you pay for them.
Ledrocnoc is correct. The HTC Status, while very similar to the unbranded ChaCha, is a little different. As you wrote, the radio is different in order to handle the 850/1900MHz range for AT&T's 3G network, as well as some differences in the front-facing camera, and of course the included software:
Compare the Status to the ChaCha
(yes, there is an FM radio in the Status, despite what GSMArena.com indicates)
Regarding the USB tethering and hotspot, even if those were available for "free" on the Status, AT&T will likely catch you anyways and make you pay. I know this for a fact because on my previous phone (unlocked GSM Palm Treo Pro), I was able to do internet sharing via USB and I used a software called WMWifiRouter to do hotspot. If you use it very sparingly (as in a few hundred KBs every few weeks or so), AT&T probably won't catch you. But if you use the tethering component regularly and consume a lot of bandwidth, they will catch you and issue you a warning. This happened to me with the Treo Pro when my wife used her laptop tethered to my phone to watch a movie via NetFlix. Of course, I immediately stopped internet sharing due to AT&T's insane $45 monthly tethering fee that they threatened to start charging me. I believe AT&T performs deep-packet inspection to see what is being sent through their networks and if they haven't caught you yet, they will soon.
So, yes, while the HTC Status has "locked" tethering, you would likely end up paying for the extra tethering cost eventually anyways if they catch you.
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Ledrocnoc is correct.
So, yes, while the HTC Status has "locked" tethering, you would likely end up paying for the extra tethering cost eventually anyways if they catch you.
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Not necessarily... I've been doing it for a while right now on my Nexus One and I have been using a VPN (on the laptop side) to hide the traffic from AT&T. Haven't had any problem so far
Which brings a follow up question: if I unlock / root my HTC Status, is there a WiFi hotspot app out there that I can use?
Thanks.
hockeyfan said:
Ledrocnoc is correct. The HTC Status, while very similar to the unbranded ChaCha, is a little different. As you wrote, the radio is different in order to handle the 850/1900MHz range for AT&T's 3G network, as well as some differences in the front-facing camera, and of course the included software:
Compare the Status to the ChaCha
(yes, there is an FM radio in the Status, despite what GSMArena.com indicates)
Regarding the USB tethering and hotspot, even if those were available for "free" on the Status, AT&T will likely catch you anyways and make you pay. I know this for a fact because on my previous phone (unlocked GSM Palm Treo Pro), I was able to do internet sharing via USB and I used a software called WMWifiRouter to do hotspot. If you use it very sparingly (as in a few hundred KBs every few weeks or so), AT&T probably won't catch you. But if you use the tethering component regularly and consume a lot of bandwidth, they will catch you and issue you a warning. This happened to me with the Treo Pro when my wife used her laptop tethered to my phone to watch a movie via NetFlix. Of course, I immediately stopped internet sharing due to AT&T's insane $45 monthly tethering fee that they threatened to start charging me. I believe AT&T performs deep-packet inspection to see what is being sent through their networks and if they haven't caught you yet, they will soon.
So, yes, while the HTC Status has "locked" tethering, you would likely end up paying for the extra tethering cost eventually anyways if they catch you.
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Actually you're both wrong. HTC ChaCha = Status. Regardless of what the software on it is (even if this software does limit some of it's functionality), the hardware is HTC ChaCha (it's like saying that if you put windows mobile on it it's not ChaCha anymore). For example you do have the full radio, up to 2100, but your operator's network has a maximum of 1900 MHz. The phone will still display 3G only or E for edge. Just do a little (official) check before making statements: http://www.htc.com/europe/smartphones/htc-chacha/#specs
It's there, black on white, the network speeds for Europe and "Other"
There are two hardwares, both of them are HTC ChaCha or HTC Status, doesn't really matter as it's the same phone.
Please use gsmarena as a rare quote in any statements as it's an unreliable site.
To explain my opinions: I work with phones 8 hours a day. (I'm a QA engineer testing the bluetooth connectivity between car-kits and phones/bluetooth devices). I have tested over 450 phones, from Motorola Razorz to LG Chocolate (yes, apparently some people still have this one) to the latest devices. I usually checked gsmarena 4-5 times a day a year ago until the day that I actually held a phone in my hand that they made a review about. The review was all wrong and the specs page were not even the same as the maker (of the phone). It's a good site, for phone's photos. I also used iPhone 4 before it even hit the market in Romania and gsmarena was useless about it. (we receive phones from makers usually before they hit the market in Europe).
Anyways, we drifted off.. the thing is that XTC Clip was designed for ANY HTC phone so it will work for older and newer HTC's.
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Actually you're both wrong. HTC ChaCha = Status. Regardless of what the software on it is (even if this software does limit some of it's functionality), the hardware is HTC ChaCha (it's like saying that if you put windows mobile on it it's not ChaCha anymore).
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So they both have 1.3mp front-facing cameras, but the cha-cha is being restricted to vga through software??? (status has 1.3mp front camera, while cha-cha has only vga)
The Status only has a vga front facing according to the specs on HTC.com. So nobody has S-Offed the Status yet?
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mosamjc said:
The Status only has a vga front facing according to the specs on HTC.com. So nobody has S-Offed the Status yet?
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Use XTC Clip, lol.
I have the 7 Pro on a smaller regional carrier in the US. Generally the dev community behind the devices they carry is non-existent.
With WP7 are the unlocks/jailbreaks fairly universal? I see lots of references to 1st gen vs. 2nd gen HTC devices and understand the difference to be drivers.
I am on the base OS build yet, 7004. I read through the jailbreaking instructions I believe should work (http://wiki.windowsphonehacker.com/wiki/Jailbreaking:HTC_1st_Generation). It does not mention the 7 Pro/Gold at all, should I assume it will work on this device for this small regional carrier?
Very new to this community (have had the device for a day), not tech inept at all, programming experience and rom building experience for Android. Just looking for a good place to start with this device that has no real community backing on this specific carrier.
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I'd actually like to hear an answer for that, I also have U.S. Cellular (updated to Mango - 7740) but I want Internet Sharing so that I can use the net on the go. Is there a way to put a custom ROM on our carriers phone. And what about the Chevron Labs unlock tool, what does that do in terms of putting ROMs on your phone?
My understanding is that the 7 Pro has some jailbreak / unlock capability in the pre-NoDo days (so the OP might be able to do them). The Chevron unlock tool only lets you side-load applications without going through the marketplace and doesn't help you with custom ROMs (AFAIK). The Arrive (Sprint's 7 Pro version) is still stuck in the unfortunate mode of locked for hacking.
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I'd actually like to hear an answer for that, I also have U.S. Cellular (updated to Mango - 7740) but I want Internet Sharing so that I can use the net on the go. Is there a way to put a custom ROM on our carriers phone. And what about the Chevron Labs unlock tool, what does that do in terms of putting ROMs on your phone?
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I'm with US Cell AND their official answer is if you want any kind of teathering, it'll cost you $30 / month and THEY control turning it on.
From everything I've been reading, ICS is actually built into WP7 BUT the crew has yet to figure an easy way to enable it without unlocking the phone AND, from what I've read, it's still uncertain as to if the proceedure is only for GSM phones or will work with US Cell's CDMA phones.. I was reading a thread here yesterday, sorry, no link, where a group is working hard on figureing out which reg keys need to be corrected to enable ICS..
HOPEFULLY someone will figure a way that will work with all phones and NOT have to get a DEV key to unlock.. I love my 7 Pro phone but I really miss my Touch Pro and WinMobile WiFi Router. <sigh>
Actually, they do support tethering by default on their data plans now. I haven't seen a plan since the change to Belief that doesn't have it. The problem, the HTC 7 Pro does not support tethering AT ALL. This is most likely due to changes in the OS platform that prevents it or simply does not make it available to be used as a modem.
Source:
uscellular.com/smartphones/windows-mobile/tethering.html
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Actually, they do support tethering by default on their data plans now. I haven't seen a plan since the change to Belief that doesn't have it. The problem, the HTC 7 Pro does not support tethering AT ALL. This is most likely due to changes in the OS platform that prevents it or simply does not make it available to be used as a modem.
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uscellular.com/smartphones/windows-mobile/tethering.html
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FWIW, I called and talked to the US Cell tech support last week and was told that YES, tethering IS available BUT it is a charge service AND it has to be "turned on" by the company..
Just saying,
The USB port settings in the phone would have to be changed from its default mode that allows Zune connections to the modem mode that allows tethering.
Samsung and LG phones have Engineering menu codes that allow changing the USB port mode. As far as I know, the HTC 7 Pro/HTC Arrive does not...
Every thing i'm reading says you can make phone calls from the galaxy tab plus in receiver mode. is that strictly for the 3G versions? Because on my wifi version I don't have that option.
Sorry but off course you cannot do that with WiFi version...only 3G works as a phone.
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Sorry but off course you cannot do that with WiFi version...only 3G works as a phone.
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That's only half-correct. You can't make phone calls without a wifi connection in the wifi-only version, and it is missing a traditional dialer, but there are plenty of apps, such as Skype, Vonage, and GrooVe IP which will allow you to make calls in receiver mode even on the wifi-only version.
Does anyone know if the 3G/4G GT 7.0 Plus can be flashed to enable voice calls, like the original Galaxy Tab? Thanks to the great devs here on XDA I was able to flash my original tab & was hoping to do the same if/when an AT&T model is released. Other web sites (samsung, gsm arena) show pics of the GT 7 Plus & the GT 2 with the dialer app. I'm sure these are the European versions, as was the case with the original Galaxy Tab.
....if not, I may have to settle for a Galaxy Note.
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That's only half-correct. You can't make phone calls without a wifi connection in the wifi-only version, and it is missing a traditional dialer, but there are plenty of apps, such as Skype, Vonage, and GrooVe IP which will allow you to make calls in receiver mode even on the wifi-only version.
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I understood we were talking about phone function with dialer application, which wifi version is unable to offer. And off course there are plenty devices which are able to make calls through VOIP, Skype etc...but not through GSM if there is only wifi version. This is general for tablets and computers.
Does this the t869 version have the "Voice Receiver" mode?
Talked about on the Samsung site or just speakerphone?
samsung.com/global/microsite/galaxytab/7.0/feature.html
No it does not. Tmobile variant is missing some hardware = crippled.
Sorry guys so does the 3g model work as a fully functional phone on T-Mobile?
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Or does any version run on T-Mobile US 3g that can be used as a fully functional phone?
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Or does any version run on T-Mobile US 3g that can be used as a fully functional phone?
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That is the million dollar question that I am trying to get answered too. I have the original Samsung Galaxy Tab and make phone calls all day long with it. Of course I am using a SIM that originally worked on a Samsung Galaxy S so I don't have just data on my plan.
If you are like me, you are absolutely frustrated that you can either have Phone+2G or swap modems and boot into pure 3G mode without phone calling ability. So, I have a couple people confirming that the Huawei Springboard can make phone calls and I believe also utilize 3G/4G on the TMobile USA network (unconfirmed on the 3G/4G portion). I want to stick to having a 7" device that makes phone calls as my phone but I want my 3G/4G ability that I am paying for.
So, here are the tablets that are out and if they work with TMobile USA network:
Huawei Springboard Phone=Yes, 3G/4G=?
Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus Phone=?
Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7 Phone=Yes according to one website
Samsung Galaxy Note Phone=No, not unless new radio is put in unit.
Dell Streak 7" - Not sure
Thoughts? Errors that you see on my info above?
From what I understand the Springboard is also missing the hardware to do voice calls without Bluetooth, speakerphone etc.
Is it possible to purchase the int'l unlocked version of the Galaxy Tab 7+ that has the voice receiver hardware and flash the modem, etc from the T-Mobile version so that tmo 3G/4G?
Or is that a hardware incompatibility with the int'l version?
Juanpv, I believe you are right about the Springboard not having the hardware/microphone to handle phone calls without bluetooth or headset.
I believe the international version of the Tab Plus doesn't do the 1700 bandwidth which the TMobile USA network needs.
I'm so frustrated right now. Does anyone know of a 7" device that works on the TMO USA network and allows phone, 3G/4G without having to reboot?
I've been using the T-Mobile galaxy plus as my primary phone for about a month now. I etf'ed(if that's not a real word,it should become one) my original number to transfer it over it Google voice,only cuz i picked up a galaxy ii as well. I downloaded the groove IP app and that was pretty much that. Now granted,its not ideal,on wifi u get a small delay,and because I live in a market without 4g...its almost impossible to use it as it cuts out either when I'm talking...or the other person on a line. My tablet has two numbers attached to it also...the Google voice one and the T-Mobile data plan. Granted...I use really only about thirty minute a month for voice...its been pretty ideal for me. It was also very easy to attach a blue tooth headset to it. Also,I don't think it allows u to call 911...but with two other cell phones in the house,I hope it wouldn't b a problem. So I've been pretty happy with this setup..playing games is great, I've been reading way more then before and I have yet to find pants that I own that it doesn't fit in....watching Netflix or other movies is great,especially on the treadmill ...and that'd really when it becomes awkward...is listening to music at the gym...but its cool to use apps like jetfit pro to keep track of your sets. Is it ideal...no...but more then functional. Let me know if anyone has any questions.
Ps. While the camera takes decent pictures...its def a drop off from the quality of the s ii I got use to before I gave it to a family member.
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My tablet has two numbers attached to it also...the Google voice one and the T-Mobile data plan.
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Thank you for sharing in what way you are using the TMO Galaxy Tab Plus. Have you tried or found any hacks to get one of the sim cards, from another phone, to utilize the phone features of the tablet?
I see on the Samsung website that it has phone calling capabilities but I also read somewhere/someone believes TMO had Samsung remove the physical hardware to support standard phone calls. I personally believe that is erroneous information as they thought the same with the original Samsung Tab.
I am just using another "data" sim card from T-Mobile...so I have two numbers attached to my tablet ...sorry...I did scour the interweb to find a trick to just use my original one...but no dice :-(
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From what I have gathered, and excuse me if this has already been said (It doesn't look like it above)...
Galaxy Tab 7 Plus (USA Version) won't allow 3G/GSM Calling. No one has hacked it like you can on the original tab. I actually bought the Galaxy 7 Tab Plus in hopes I can, and sadly found out after hours of reading that I can' t
Now, the Galaxy Tab 7 Plus (International Version) does allow you to! It will run you around $700 for it (I was able to find one for $460 in Australia, but shipping is expensive).
The reason the USA version can't, is the same reason why no tablet in the USA can make calls the carrier (I believe) blocks it. I don't know exactly why they do, perhaps data usage or something... there is only 1 or 2 tablets out there that support gsm calling, I don't recall what they are though, but nothing fancy like a Galaxy Tab 7 Plus.
I'm all about GSM Calling and anti-VOIP calling, but as I do more research I might migrate to VOIP phones, mostly because there is no limitation on what device you use...And I'm leaning towards the Sony Tablet P (Fold/Clamshell design)... I know, 99% of people out there hate that device, but I love the idea. Comes out in a week, so I'm pretty excited
Hi NineT9, having used cell phones in a dozen countries while living there, I can assure you that in US, cell because just sodomize you and take fortune out of your pocket for that matter.
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Is there a difference on hardware level between this one
http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/mobile-devices/tablets/tablets/GT-P6800LSAXEU
And the
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/galaxy-tab/SGH-T869MABTMB
http://mobile-broadband.t-mobile.com/tablets/galaxy-tab/plus
I would love the phone feature the EU version has!
Is that possible on T869? Like installing a rooted EU rom on T869
So that I can retire my G2 on eBay
Hey I am getting plus on Friday I will use my G2 sim in it and post you guys how the VOIP stuff goes
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I was under the impression that I could use my G2 sim which has unlimited data on this Tab, but that not the case!
TMO wants me to sign up for another data plan, so said KMB and send the damn thing back. As I could only load T-Mobile website on it using my sim card.
Now I am ordering EU tab thru my friend who lives in London. I will post updates after getting it
NineT9 said:
I'm all about GSM Calling and anti-VOIP calling, but as I do more research I might migrate to VOIP phones, mostly because there is no limitation on what device you use...
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See, I feel differently about utilizing VOIP or relying on it. I personally have been using VOIP on older Windows Mobile devices, Nokia N800 and my Samsung Galaxy Tab when in 3G mode. But, I can tell you it's like having cell phone access about 1/10th of the time that you would have Cellular phone ability. Maybe it's even less but I don't want to be too critical. The amount of dropped calls, weird echoes, inability to even call, etc. is just too frustrating to rely on for a day to day phone. Plus, you'll upset everyone that you are talking too because they suffer through the same problems as you do. It's been a great way to alienate my friends.
I think I'm going to have to just give up and go back to a dumb 4"+ phone just so I have a dual core, Cellular, 2G/3G/4G capability all at the same time SINGLE device.
Damn the US phone companies! Every last one of them. At least with T-Mobile's business plan I get 1000 minutes, unlimited data (5GB), unlimited text for $39.99 a month. If I wanted unlimited everything then it's just $10 more at $49.99 as of Feb 2012.
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See, I feel differently about utilizing VOIP or relying on it. I personally have been using VOIP on older Windows Mobile devices, Nokia N800 and my Samsung Galaxy Tab when in 3G mode. But, I can tell you it's like having cell phone access about 1/10th of the time that you would have Cellular phone ability. Maybe it's even less but I don't want to be too critical. The amount of dropped calls, weird echoes, inability to even call, etc. is just too frustrating to rely on for a day to day phone. Plus, you'll upset everyone that you are talking too because they suffer through the same problems as you do. It's been a great way to alienate my friends.
I think I'm going to have to just give up and go back to a dumb 4"+ phone just so I have a dual core, Cellular, 2G/3G/4G capability all at the same time SINGLE device.
Damn the US phone companies! Every last one of them. At least with T-Mobile's business plan I get 1000 minutes, unlimited data (5GB), unlimited text for $39.99 a month. If I wanted unlimited everything then it's just $10 more at $49.99 as of Feb 2012.
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Wow, thanks for that post I've been asking numerous people and read a few threads/articles online about VOIP, and what you said is exactly what I was afraid of, and I've been told it won't happen if you have a connection... but I thought, well what if I'm driving? That means the speed will only decrease drastically, and like most people I talk while driving a lot...
I was afraid of the dropped calls, echos, upsetting the other end, etc etc... looks like that will happen still
Sadly, I think I will also have to go back to a dumb 4" phone too :\ I really want to use the new Galaxy Tab 7 Plus as a phone, shame it's not possible like the original :\
NineT9 said:
From what I have gathered, and excuse me if this has already been said (It doesn't look like it above)...
Galaxy Tab 7 Plus (USA Version) won't allow 3G/GSM Calling. No one has hacked it like you can on the original tab. I actually bought the Galaxy 7 Tab Plus in hopes I can, and sadly found out after hours of reading that I can' t
Now, the Galaxy Tab 7 Plus (International Version) does allow you to! It will run you around $700 for it (I was able to find one for $460 in Australia, but shipping is expensive).
The reason the USA version can't, is the same reason why no tablet in the USA can make calls the carrier (I believe) blocks it. I don't know exactly why they do, perhaps data usage or something... there is only 1 or 2 tablets out there that support gsm calling, I don't recall what they are though, but nothing fancy like a Galaxy Tab 7 Plus.
I'm all about GSM Calling and anti-VOIP calling, but as I do more research I might migrate to VOIP phones, mostly because there is no limitation on what device you use...And I'm leaning towards the Sony Tablet P (Fold/Clamshell design)... I know, 99% of people out there hate that device, but I love the idea. Comes out in a week, so I'm pretty excited
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I am using the Galaxy Tab t mobile SGH t849 7 ich that allows me to use GSM 2g voice + data and 3g data only using modem switcher.