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[Q] Sending my TF back :(

Well, had the thing for a few weeks, and I just can't find a reason to keep it. I wanted to stream videos from the net - but I can't as it stutters and doesn't play 720p smoothly at all (Not Youtube), and the amount of tablet software is pretty woeful to be honest.
Unless someone can persuade me to keep it, I will have to say byebye... and I am quite sad about that
And no... I'm not getting an iPad either

Do some searching, this question comes up all the time.
My 2 cents is that if you want a table for playing videos the iPad2 is your best choice.

You will have to wait but for video the archos tabs seem to be really good and they are easily unlockable. The next generation is gonna be released soon and the specs look good.

Kaltern said:
Well, had the thing for a few weeks, and I just can't find a reason to keep it. I wanted to stream videos from the net - but I can't as it stutters and doesn't play 720p smoothly at all (Not Youtube), and the amount of tablet software is pretty woeful to be honest.
Unless someone can persuade me to keep it, I will have to say byebye... and I am quite sad about that
And no... I'm not getting an iPad either
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Have you updated to latest firmware?
720p works fine. Mkv with ac3 audio won't play audio in stock player but will in moboplayer or dice player.

jerrykur said:
Do some searching, this question comes up all the time.
My 2 cents is that if you want a table for playing videos the iPad2 is your best choice.
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I am not disparaging the ipad, it is a very well built device that IF it does what you want is a great choice, however you're recommending it for 720p playback when it doesn't even have a 720p display.

I don't want an iPad mainly due to lack of Flash - I have various sites I use with flash video streaming and the TF simply cannot play any of them - and I have rooted and tried Revolver 2.1.2, which is great - but makes no difference to flash videos.
MKV video plays fine btw - that's not what I was after
I'm thinking the next gen of tablets may be worth waiting for - the current crop simply are not up to the task - and simply seem to be made to contend with the iPad 2 - which isn't exactly a great choice anyway.

mine streams fine, better than my ipad, i watch tv shows and films no problem over wifi, even on a slow 1mb connection, try istreamnet.net and see if they stream using the standard player.

Kaltern said:
I don't want an iPad mainly due to lack of Flash - I have various sites I use with flash video streaming and the TF simply cannot play any of them - and I have rooted and tried Revolver 2.1.2, which is great - but makes no difference to flash videos.
MKV video plays fine btw - that's not what I was after
I'm thinking the next gen of tablets may be worth waiting for - the current crop simply are not up to the task - and simply seem to be made to contend with the iPad 2 - which isn't exactly a great choice anyway.
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if what you are having an issue with is flash video then I would suggest installing the hack that enables hardware acceleration. A quick search will turn it up. Flash is pig, it's nice to have support for it but flash is really suited only for real PCs and it will never be a real priority for tablets.

720p mkvs and ICS

so i was hoping that ICS would fix all the mkv issues since on my galaxy nexus every mkv i have plays perfectly.
but sadly that is not the case. MX and BS players are the best and only lag when theres a lot of things going on, like the final battle in thor.
anyway, my mkvs are all that high baseband or whatever, and i haven't bothered redoing them, or trying to convert them because i was hoping that ICS would actually allow them to play.
now that it hasn't, i guess it's finally time to convert them all so i can play them.
so i'm asking for help for a program that will allow me to convert all of these so that they can actually play on the transformer, but without any loss of quality, or any increase in file size. currently they're all around 7GB.

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This is probably not the exact answer you're looking for but you can read this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060825
Sent from my Captivate

Use DicePlayer, supports hardware decode
Sent from Galaxy Nexus (GSM)

@curti: not sure if that will do what i want, but i'll give it a shot. i'll try anything at this point.
@nxt: DicePlayer is unable to play high profile 720p mkvs on the transformer without lag. This is true in all versions of honeycomb and in ICS. and ICS makes it even worse. Only players that are even somewhat watchable are MX and BS, and both still lag.

quick smart arse answer- stop whining, recode your goddam videos and accept the fact that the Tegra 2 chip is and always will be underpowered to play mkv's.
question: who the hell wants to play mkv's on a 10inch tab anyway, get a TV.

bob dylan said:
quick smart arse answer- stop whining, recode your goddam videos and accept the fact that the Tegra 2 chip is and always will be underpowered to play mkv's.
question: who the hell wants to play mkv's on a 10inch tab anyway, get a TV.
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if you bothered to even read my original post, i asked how to recode them.
And i want to play mkvs on a 10 inch tab because i can't carry around a tv to school or on an airplane, and my tab has an HDMI out that i can plug it into a TV to play said videos.

also make sure you have the tegra 2 plugin for dice player, works fine for avi and mkv on ICS.

I use xenonmkv to transcode. It leaves the video alone but repacks the video and audio in a mp4 format. More tegra2 friendly.

720p mkv should play natively on ics as of now.I got them playing though I encountered an issue with audio not working with the stock app.

@bob dylan: i have the tegra2 plugin installed. dice lags so bad everything is unwatchable.
@pongo: sounds like an idea. any changes in file size? my mkvs are around 7gb, i don't want them to get any bigger.
@DarkLG: not sure how your able to play them, myself and many others are unable to get them to work properly on any player.

Use handbrake to recode ur vids , soo many options so i betting ull find 1 that works for you
ive been using the high profile option in handbrake and i havnt had a issuse yet..

Ligerblue said:
Use handbrake to recode ur vids , soo many options so i betting ull find 1 that works for you
ive been using the high profile option in handbrake and i havnt had a issuse yet..
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that defeats the purpose of this thread.... even a Galaxy S1 can decode high profile 720p MKV with dice player and stock, there should absolutely be NO reason why a asus transformer on a duo-core can't process 720p mkvs when a single core can.
encoding a video takes too much time and it shouldn't be necessary.

zephiK said:
that defeats the purpose of this thread.... even a Galaxy S1 can decode high profile 720p MKV with dice player and stock, there should absolutely be NO reason why a asus transformer on a duo-core can't process 720p mkvs when a single core can.
encoding a video takes too much time and it shouldn't be necessary.
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actually zephik, my original post was asking how to reencode them to get them to work. so he was right in what he said.
I do agree with you though, there is no reason why the transformer can't do it other than issues in honeycomb and ICS. my galaxy nexus can play even do 1080p videos without any issues, but i'd much rather watch things on a 10" screen instead of a 4.6"

zephiK said:
there should absolutely be NO reason why a asus transformer on a duo-core can't process 720p mkvs when a single core can.
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neok44 said:
I do agree with you though, there is no reason why the transformer can't do it other than issues in honeycomb and ICS. my galaxy nexus can play even do 1080p videos without any issues, but i'd much rather watch things on a 10" screen instead of a 4.6"
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Why the hell you keep comparing Tegra 2 with Nexus's TI OMAP cpu assisted with PowerVR GPU? Despite same Cortex-A9 "base" architecture those are totally different CPU/GPU systems. All you see is that marketing bull**** with "CORES! Ghz!"?!
Tegra 2 is missing SIMD-instructions block needed to succesfully decode high profile/high bitrate h264 video in hardware accelerated mode. And you have nothing to do with it. Point.
And talking about high bitrate - 7GB sized videos looks like 9-10Mbps video stream for regular 1h40m movies. Thats way too high for Tegra2. Its upper limit is somewhere near 5Mbps. And preferable Main Profile encoded.
But if you want - you can continue complaining and comparing your TF with nexus or whatever you want. Thats pointless.
So the bottom line is - reencode.
You can find Handbrake profile on this forum, for example. Or try to find best acceptable settings yourself.

justmara said:
Why the hell you keep comparing Tegra 2 with Nexus's TI OMAP cpu assisted with PowerVR GPU? Despite same Cortex-A9 "base" architecture those are totally different CPU/GPU systems. All you see is that marketing bull**** with "CORES! Ghz!"?!
Tegra 2 is missing SIMD-instructions block needed to succesfully decode high profile/high bitrate h264 video in hardware accelerated mode. And you have nothing to do with it. Point.
And talking about high bitrate - 7GB sized videos looks like 9-10Mbps video stream for regular 1h40m movies. Thats way too high for Tegra2. Its upper limit is somewhere near 5Mbps. And preferable Main Profile encoded.
But if you want - you can continue complaining and comparing your TF with nexus or whatever you want. Thats pointless.
So the bottom line is - reencode.
You can find Handbrake profile on this forum, for example. Or try to find best acceptable settings yourself.
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i think the reason why people, myself included, assumed that is because the tegra2 was being shown off as being capable of playing HD video, which, it is, but just not all hd video, and not the most common form of it, in the high profile.
i do thank you for giving a technical reason though. i had always been under the impression that the tegra is simply the most powerful out there, when i got my Gnex, that was proven very wrong.
i've been looking into the reencoding, as well as reripping. and thanks to a few good posters i have some good setups. Now just to setup my laptop and hopefully that will be powerful enough so it doesn't take 20 hours to do one movie.

Why is the video (flash) quality so crappy???

I have the One X for about 2 weeks now, and my main complain is the video (flash).
I have tried pretty much every browser that is available for this device and the results are the same (pixelated, slow, etc.) I've tried on Wi-Fi and LTE, and both connections are excellent (It drops once in a while, but that's a different topic), but the video still look like crap.
I have the international version of the Samsung Galaxy Note, and it plays video flawlessly (even on 3G).
Please tell me that I'm not only one experiencing this. This is my second one, I have return my previous one for a completely different reason, but I believe the video playback on the first one is the same.
Any explanation for this, or any settings I need to change to make this bearable? I'm really not happy with this phone overall.
Thank you in advance.

i dont have this problem i guess it depends on how the video was uploaded

Works fine with my phone. Depends on site / browser. Some are better than others.

Thanks for the replies guys.
When you guys says, "fine". Can you please elaborate. I mean is it smooth, HD quality.
Can you guys go espn.com, and play some of the videos. Dolphin doesn't even play the videos, Stock browser plays, but pixelated (especially fast paced - basketball, etc.), ICS+ plays, but still the quality is not that great. Opera is the same thing.
I can run the Galaxy note side by side with the One X, and the Note, not only load fastest, the quality is great. It might get a hiccup once in a while, but it keeps the quality of the video at a very good quality.
Thank you.

pm me the video you are trying to watch and i can test it

what browser are you using thats messing up? or browsers? What site ect. no pron please tho.

Same for me, I get these weird black and white pixels when watching flash videos on stock browser. It also happens when I watch movies that are software decoded with mx player. Certain videos seem fine, like the ones on youtube.

I've got the same issue. Dunno if it's hardware related though.
I can go to Video or YouTube and they all play fine.
On other sites I get stuttering and population issues.
Maybe it's the flash that's not decoding correctly? Or crud its the processor fubaring?
Meh either way still a ton nicer than my old.Captivate
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Video Formatting - What works for you

Hey guys, I'm waiting on my tablet to come in from best buy. In the mean time I'm getting ready to start converting movies to be ready to throw on when it gets in and I get a 64gb card for it (hope it works without too much fighting). So I'm hoping some of you guys can help me out with video settings. I want a balance of size/quality. and to keep size as far under 1gb each as possible for a standard 90 minute movie. I'm also a huge Futurama/American Dad/ Family Guy/ Simpsons/Southpark fan so obviously lower quality can be used, so if you have converted this type of animated stuff, what settings seemed to give the smallest size while retaining quality for the TF700? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

Chief Geek said:
Hey guys, I'm waiting on my tablet to come in from best buy. In the mean time I'm getting ready to start converting movies to be ready to throw on when it gets in and I get a 64gb card for it (hope it works without too much fighting). So I'm hoping some of you guys can help me out with video settings. I want a balance of size/quality. and to keep size as far under 1gb each as possible for a standard 90 minute movie. I'm also a huge Futurama/American Dad/ Family Guy/ Simpsons/Southpark fan so obviously lower quality can be used, so if you have converted this type of animated stuff, what settings seemed to give the smallest size while retaining quality for the TF700? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
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IMHO even for animation thats way to low a bitrate. I would go with handbrake high profile, shoot for 3-5mbps 720p if they are HD originals. If they are 480p originals then maybe you're ok with that bitrate.
Personally i shoot for 4gb movies.

gottahavit said:
IMHO even for animation thats way to low a bitrate. I would go with handbrake high profile, shoot for 3-5mbps 720p if they are HD originals. If they are 480p originals then maybe you're ok with that bitrate.
Personally i shoot for 4gb movies.
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This isnt going to be my sole movie experience device. This is my travel and work companion. 1-1.5 is where I stick for a good action movie. But comedies and such I go lower. Animation I stick around 700mb. When im getting drunk on an airplane, I want to make sure my movies arnt blotchy and pixilated, but they dont have the be blue ray quality. I run a media server at home (plex) and that's where I keep the levels far higher.
I may have to give hand brake a try, I have been using format factory for years because I can make so many adjustments and chose the containers and formats.

get dvdcatalyst to convert your movies. It has a few presets for all devices. they can range from 1 to 4gb, depending on the initial size of the movie and the quality you want. i highly recommend it.
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I appreciate the advice. I don't have an issue converting, I'm just trying to get some feedback as to the actual presets your using as to ratio, bit rate, file type and container types, so on.
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Here's what I personally use, you can set what you like otherwise...
For TV DVD sources, I convert them from anamorphic to square pixel, and then crop widescreen movies as necessary. 640x480 SD videos I use a bitrate of 1mbps. Widescreen stuff I give 1.5mbps. These are the copies I watch on the TV, tablet, phone, whatever and I can't tell any quality difference between the original and the h264 encode. At these levels I can fit all of Home Movies, Futurama S1-5, The Office S1-4 and all of ATHF on one 64gb card.
For movies, since these are just portable copies and not my full versions for home viewing, I use the same standards above for SD sources, and for HD sources I scale it down to 720p, crop if necessary, and use a 2mbps bitrate. (you could insist on a 1080p encode, but on a 10" screen are you really going to notice the difference and need to add in the extra bps?) You get a little more pixelation at times, but nothing unwatchable. This keeps it light enough to stream over my local network and small enough that you can fit a lot on while still being a good watchable version.
All audio I drop to a 96kpbs stereo mix.
This is what works for me. What works for any of you may be different depending on what you use it for.

Exactly what I was looking for.
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what are the appropriate codec (video & audio) settings to get hardware acceleration and native player support?

DarsVaeda said:
what are the appropriate codec (video & audio) settings to get hardware acceleration and native player support?
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For the native player you need h.264(avc) video and stereo aac audio.

i have movies that are h264 and DTS 5.1. I just drop them on my 64gb card (inserted into the doc) and they play fine, nice and crisp. No need to convert. They are about 4gb in size.

timrock said:
i have movies that are h264 and DTS 5.1. I just drop them on my 64gb card (inserted into the doc) and they play fine, nice and crisp. No need to convert. They are about 4gb in size.
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Your playing dts on the native player? Me thinks not. BS player will however,but asked about native

gottahavit said:
Your playing dts on the native player? Me thinks not. BS player will however,but asked about native
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yeah, sorry, using BS. native will play the movie, but no sound.

USB Dashcam for MTCD Advice.

Very surprised that there is not much info on this, was looking for a usb dashcam solution to plug into Joying units usb to use as DVR.
Any Advice?
Needs to have night vision and decent FOV.
Thanks

gersrt said:
Very surprised that there is not much info on this, was looking for a usb dashcam solution to plug into Joying units usb to use as DVR.
Any Advice?
Needs to have night vision and decent FOV.
Thanks
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I use a Logitech c920, FOV is great, It doesnt have IR night vision, (that wouldnt work properly with the headlights on anyway I guess), however it seems to work fine in the dark. When I get a chance I will upload a video.
Also, the built in DVR app is dog ****, i use an app from the play store called AutoBoy. It records the camera but also tracks your location which is handy, the other killer feature for me is that it allows you to flip the camera feed 180 degrees, which allows me to mount the camera upside down on the windscreen.
Josh

Great Feedback Josh Thanks.
If you do get a chance that would be great I would like to see fov and image quality.
Thanks Again

gersrt said:
Great Feedback Josh Thanks.
If you do get a chance that would be great I would like to see fov and image quality.
Thanks Again
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No problems. i just need to pull the car up to the house and upload to youtube (you can do this direct from AutoBoy app) at some point. Give me a few hours and I will try and get it done.

gersrt said:
Very surprised that there is not much info on this, was looking for a usb dashcam solution to plug into Joying units usb to use as DVR.
Any Advice?
Needs to have night vision and decent FOV.
Thanks
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If its the ROCKCHIP/ARM CPU, then don't waste your time with a dashcam. Those things don't have video encoders, and you can't just capture raw. Means that you'll be software-encoding the video with the super-weak CPU. The performance hit is debilitating. I've been periodically tinkering with the idea of skipping the android layer and using ffmpeg to capture the stream directly, but hard to find the time needed to work on it.
If you get the INTEL unit, it DOES have a video encoder, AND has a much stronger CPU, it can do dashcamming much easier.

So a Logitech c920 (that does x.264 in hardware) won't work well?
Only asking because I was just getting ready to buy one for that very purpose...

DudeInMyrtleBeach said:
So a Logitech c920 (that does x.264 in hardware) won't work well?
Only asking because I was just getting ready to buy one for that very purpose...
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The hardware encoder will not help you on the rockchip head unit if you go through Android to capture video. It will perform simultaneous decode and encode on the CPU before storing the video file.
Also FYI: It definitely does NOT do x264 in hardware. It will do H.264.
x264 is an open source SOFTWARE H.264 encoder.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X264

doitright said:
The hardware encoder will not help you on the rockchip head unit if you go through Android to capture video. It will perform simultaneous decode and encode on the CPU before storing the video file.
Also FYI: It definitely does NOT do x264 in hardware. It will do H.264.
x264 is an open source SOFTWARE H.264 encoder.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X264
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Thanks for clearing this up for me. I really appreciate it! Sounds like that's out. I thought so anyway. It seems that we need to keep as much of a load off these head units as possible to conserve resources... That's ok, I had a plan 'B' anyway lol.

To be honest I've not found the performance hit to be that much at all. I have it running in the background all the time and apart from the splash screen when Autoboy loads I hardly know its there. I've not had any major laggyness with my MTCD for a while now, since Malaysk v6 probably and v7 (based on the last joying rom) is even better.

Hi, I've tried a HD camera but the problem it has the time stamp as well as GPS coordinates and I can't change them, I think the problem is the camera needs to comunicate with the car unit. Other problem was the image quality, I'm not 100% satisfied...so I've bought a Ambarela mini 0805(for 47€). Need to test it, it's on the way ...expect to get it this week. I'll post the results with sample video and images.