almost 2 days with one charge - Verizon Droid Charge

i used the phone with light to moderate use from 9 am yesterday until about half an hour ago.
i had 4g turned off most of the time and used lte switch to change that. Gps was also turned off the entire time.
I had juicedefender ultimate and had that set on aggressive with the battery thing set to 25% (sorry forgot what it was called). That turned off all radios after hitting 25%.
I am also using the stock 1600mAh battery that came with the phone.

I've reached 2 days with moderate use and still had around 20% battery life to spare by the end of the second day. This was after I was trying to calibrate my battery so I needed it to die. I decided to see if the calibration had already took effect so I turned JuiceDefender Ultimate on and wallah. 2 day battery life.

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Is there any way to get this thing to last over 10 hours with moderate/medium usage? I mean I hate to compare, but I was able to use my iphone 4 hard periodically through the day and be at 40% around midnight, but I have to stay using my captivate very lightly after about 10pm, and I usually unplug around 12 to 1pm..
I don't want to have to sacrifice majors perks of why I switched to android just to get a full day out of it. I've tried a lot of the suggestions I'm the forums, but nothing makes a notice difference, or makes it a fame changer as to where I'll get a full day of moderate internet/media usage
Thanks in advance.
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Have you tried draining and recharging the battery as other threads have suggested? I usually unplug around 9-10am and I don't get battery warning until near midnight or later.
I keep seeing people complain about the battery life constantly.. but to me coming from my bb bold it seems that the battery is lasting way longer then i expected.. first couple charges i let the phone drain down till it shut off, and then charged it 100%.. its still new to me so im constantly playing with it and changing the menus around.. i try to make sure almost everything is closed when im not using it.. cause im sure that eats battery life..
asrrin29 said:
Have you tried draining and recharging the battery as other threads have suggested? I usually unplug around 9-10am and I don't get battery warning until near midnight or later.
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I did it once, but I booted back up the phone a few minutes after I plugged it in, will leaving it off while it does a full 100% charge noticeably increase battery life?
Do you have widgets updating frequently? How frequently? Maybe just too many updating widgets. I get about 18 hours with the screen on for 4.
18 hours also
I'm getting 16-18 hours of use with about 4-5 hours of screen time. Better than expected.
Today I used my phone as much as I used my iPhone 4 on a regular basis. My phone has been off the charger for just over 12 hours and I have 70% of my battery left.
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I'm getting 16-18 hours of use with about 4-5 hours of screen time. Better than expected.
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I'm around that too, I use a black background to save power and I have about 5-6 hours of screen time and I watch a movie on it every day (treadmill at the gym)
I only get low battery around midnight
I use advanced task killer and set it to when the screen is off to kill apps, aggressive mode, I can go about 20hrs before I need to recharge. 5-6hrs screen time.
djgleebs said:
Is there any way to get this thing to last over 10 hours with moderate/medium usage? I mean I hate to compare, but I was able to use my iphone 4 hard periodically through the day and be at 40% around midnight, but I have to stay using my captivate very lightly after about 10pm, and I usually unplug around 12 to 1pm..
I don't want to have to sacrifice majors perks of why I switched to android just to get a full day out of it. I've tried a lot of the suggestions I'm the forums, but nothing makes a notice difference, or makes it a fame changer as to where I'll get a full day of moderate internet/media usage
Thanks in advance.
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One thing about android is it has true multitasking. Combined with some apps which do NOT close properly and continue to use up CPU this can drain your batter very fast.
In the battery Info your TimeSpentAwake should be ~ the same as Display on time. If not something is not closing properly. Use OSMonitor to check which program it is and either uninstall it or make sure to kill it with task killer after using.
I have the M110S (Korean Galaxy S - I get 16-18 Hrs with moderate use, but M110S comes w/ 2 batteries so i just swap )
Yeah based on people who are getting good battery life mine is absolutely terrible. I am on my fourth full discharge. I have had my phone off the charger for 2 hours and I'm already at 87 percent. I listened to about 45 minutes of cached slacker radio and like 2 posts on xda app
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My battery went down 2 percent just posting that last post
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I think I am going to have the phone switched out at best buy today
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Just to comment on my battery life. I got my phone saturday (2.5 days ago) and its been on the whole time with medium usage. When I got the phone the pamphlet inside said "fully charge before you turn on" and thats what I did. My battery is at 41% and the only time that I have charged it since is when I am connecting it to my PC for a very short amount of time. I have had great battery life so it is possible. I am very impressed with it.
Yes...my battery life has been good...
Screen brightness all the way down (auto brightness off) *same for the browser brightness
Screen timeout 15 secs (annoying sometimes so maybe 30 secs)
No window animations
Power saving mode off (no point in having the lcd adjust if its already as low as it will go)
I also dont have any widgets that update in the background, however i'd imagine one or two wouldnt affect the battery much
These settings have worked out for me and i use the phone moderately with 2 hourly updating email accounts.....
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Battery life for me has been decent. I consider myself a moderate user and I can go from 7:30am till I go to bed at night without dying, but its close. Coming from an iPhone 2G, where with the same usage I could get 2-3 days on one charge, its a little disappointing. But it is what it is I guess. I have heard horror stories of EVO's only going 4-6 hours on a full charge, thats ridiculous.
But what gets me is all this nonsense about fully discharging before charging back up every time. These are Li-ion batteries, they are not Ni-cads, they will not get a "memory" if you dont fully discharge every time. Yes, its good the very first time, to fully charge it before using it, but after that, it doesnt really matter.
Also, one more thing I noticed. The phone will stop charging the battery the second its fully charged. So if your phone reaches 100% charge at like 2am, it stops charging at 2am and you are then going from 2am till whenever you take it off charge in the morning. I noticed this the other day. As soon as the phone told me it was fully charged, the battery icon turned into a normal battery icon even though it was still plugged in. So its possible that the phone is going for 4, 5, 6 hours off charge before you even wake up. What I do to make sure I'm at 100% when I leave, is when I get up I unplug it, use it for a minute then put back on charge while showering. Then when I leave for work, I know its fully charged at 100%.
I guess I'll be switching out phones at Best Buy today as well. Phone keeps losing 30-40% overnight (more like 5 hours max since I'm a night owl) even with everything turned off. When I do get back to a 90% charge before I leave for work at 8am, I'm usually left with 30-40% by 5pm after 15 texts or so and a few emails.
I am fairly sure all new batteries have a chip in them that regulates the power. So you HAVE to run it down to 0-5% and charge it back too 100% several times before the battery is even calibrated for use. That has to be why its 50/50 battery sucks battery is great, just let it drain and charge it again.
battery life simply not acceptable
Hey guys,
I know many people post on battery life.
Here is my situation.
I do not care about beauty, but functionality is a must.
I am in the hospital from ca 6am to 7Pm and I have Q4 call meaning every fourth night its to midnight. That is simply a fact of my life.
My requirement:
I need my phone to last for this duration without recharge.
1.)
I don't need or use widgets
2.)
I don't need or use a wallpaper other than a solid black background.
I do need and use:
the GSM radio and wifi both need to run the entire time and reception is what it is.
My applications of use:
merck manual, dynamed, epocrates the usual in my boat.
I really really want to use this phone, but battery life wise only my blackberry with extended battery and my iphone 4 can hack it.
If any of you have any suggestions on what I could do plz let me know. My last resort is carrying two batteries, but that would frankly be admitting that this phone is inferior to the iphone 4 which can hack a 20 hour usage day in my setting.
(I absolutely cannot turn wifi or 3G off both must run)
I am open to all suggestions including the task killr controversy or anything else constructive one may have. Any extended size batteries out there for the captivate?
Thanks a bunch in advance.
(Having had my secretary spend 4 hours rooting the phone and sideloading Merck manual is a testament to the pathetic entity that is AT&T by the way. If you have professional apps from an institutional subscription you cannot download the software from the market...)
PS: My secretary is not exactly a hacker so forgive the 4 hour timeframe.
I consider myself to be a heavy user!! I like to text, browse the web, listen to music (either from my own files or streaming,) check email and comment on facebook all throughout the day. I did that perfectly fine with my Bold 9700, that battery lasted a full day or more.
I had an iPhone 4 and my battery would not last my 8 hour work shift!! I either had a bad battery or who knows what was going on with that phone. I didn't even leave the apps running...the phone was nice, but that battery killed it for me. I don't understand how some people got a full day out of it.
On the Captivate the most I have gotten has been around 10 hours of use and that's not even using it how I normally like to. I stop charging it at 8:30 and my battery is 100% around 10am I'm already in my low 90's or upper 80's. I don't have any widgets updating, I have a black wallpaper, I don't have the haptic feedback on, and I sync email hourly.
Could my battery be bad?? How can some of you manage to get 16 or so hours out of it??

Quick battery drain on standby

We need to be precise in what we communicate in order not to have misunderstandings. Many threads disagree on how good the battery is on th G2x. I agree that 6-8 hours of continuous use is great, that is if you're literally using nonstop, without having the screen shut off.The problem that many users are complaining about is that the battery keeps draining at a unacceptable rate even when the phone is just on standby. The excuse is that this is a smart phone and it has to ping the towers in order to receive calls.
Well my last smart phone was the HTC Shadow which was a Windows based operating system and the battery would never drain at 5-15% an hour just on standby. I did some reading on many sites, and the majority consensus is only android handsets have this huge battery drain problem when it's not being used but just on standby. So what gives? Is it because of google maps? Or some other google program that has to constantly access your phone even when you yourself aren't activley using it?
I've notice on my juice defender log that when I'm not using my phone it shows every few minutes something about accessing a schedule and data. What could this be? Back ground data? The only way I can get the phone not to drain excessivley when on standby is to put it on airplane mode. The bad battery drain when phone isn't being used has something to do with the Android operating system and the cellphones radio being very active even when not in use.
Factory Reset fixes that
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Factory Reset fixes that
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Believe me I tried resetting it twice, and it does nothing for improving the battery drain.
If any one has juice defender go to status tab and check your log. Even with the supposedly data turned off it'll show the the phone us accessing some schedule or data every few minutes.Maybe one of the knowledgeable developers can look into this and tell us what is happening and create a fix.
You may have a bad battery.
The battery that came with my G2x in the box (manuf. date of 2011-04-06) had the insane battery drain where I can watch it drop. I got a replacement thru Tmo (manuf. date of 2011-04-28), which has been outstanding.
Prior to the new battery, I lasted about 7 hours with moderate/heavy use. The new battery just clocked in at almost 16 hours the other day.
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You may have a bad battery.
The battery that came with my G2x in the box (manuf. date of 2011-04-06) had the insane battery drain where I can watch it drop. I got a replacement thru Tmo (manuf. date of 2011-04-28), which has been outstanding.
Prior to the new battery, I lasted about 7 hours with moderate/heavy use. The new battery just clocked in at almost 16 hours the other day.
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We'll see, I just spoke to t mobile customer rep, they shipped me out a new one which should get here on the 3rd. Although, I didn't appreciate them charging me $10 for shipping. 16 hours of heavy use and I'll be content, if not I'm getting me the mugen 4500mah extended battery. So with o out you touching the phone how much percent does it drain in an hour?
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We'll see, I just spoke to t mobile customer rep, they shipped me out a new one which should get here on the 3rd. Although, I didn't appreciate them charging me $10 for shipping. 16 hours of heavy use and I'll be content, if not I'm getting me the mugen 4500mah extended battery. So with o out you touching the phone how much percent does it drain in an hour?
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Right now I'm at 99%, phone has been unplugged for 2hrs 34mins. I'm on wifi at the moment, but I would have drained anyway on the old battery with this same setup.
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Right now I'm at 99%, phone has been unplugged for 2hrs 34mins. I'm on wifi at the moment, but I would have drained anyway on the old battery with this same setup.
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Do you have juice defender installed?
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Do you have juice defender installed?
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Yup, same exact setup with old and new battery.
I'll try when I have the time and patience for it, but maybe someone can perform an experiment by charging to full then just let the phone sit on standby until the battery dies. Do this with wifi, bluetooth, juice defender and gps off. Log how long it took to die, then run the same test again, but with juice defender turned on. If it can hold it's charge for 2-3 days I'll be very happy, but if it dies out in 16 hours just being idle and on standby then somethings wrong.
jacob808 said:
I'll try when I have the time and patience for it, but maybe someone can perform an experiment by charging to full then just let the phone sit on standby until the battery dies. Do this with wifi, bluetooth, juice defender and gps off. Log how long it took to die, then run the same test again, but with juice defender turned on. If it can hold it's charge for 2-3 days I'll be very happy, but if it dies out in 16 hours just being idle and on standby then somethings wrong.
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JD only kicks in when I'm on cell data. With wifi on, it never activates I believe. Unless I'm looking at this wrong.
I was getting horrible battery life when I first got mine. I couldn't go 8 hours without it dying, and that was not even using the phone...on standby! I tried a toggle switch for data to turn it off and on when using it, but it still died. Next, I tried a 2g-4g toggle switch. Battery life is flat out amazing now. I can go almost 8 hours on a full charge and be on maybe 95%!!! I think a lot of it has to do with my office building and not getting the best reception. I would tend to bounce back and forth from edge to 4g all the time. Anyway, I use switch pro for the toggle widget, but give it a shot for a few days.
Switchpro only has a 2G/3G toggle. How did you get the 4G toggle or did you mistake what it was called.
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I had a similar problem with my first G2x. With the screen turned off and in stand-by the battery would drain 15-20% per hour. I even bought 3 cheap batteries from China and the results were the same. I then had T-Mobile send me a replacement G2x. The new G2x drains about 1% per hour in stand-by. I even get 1% drain with the 3 cheap batteries. So it appears the problem was the phone. I had tried CM7 and Eaglesblood on the first G2x and it didn't stop the drain.
I had terrible life when first started, than I did the factory reset and the battery conditioning thing.
Took it off charge over 30 hours ago, it still has 10% left. Within that it had a solid 2 hours use of edge/3g/4g internet (Searching for towers as I was on a train). And a good hour of me using it on wireless for checking emails and browsing while at home and work.
Note that I have GPS turned off, and the phone is on a wireless network for almost all of its idle time. NO Juice Defender, no data stwitching, no rooting. Stock standard, although I did follow the advice here and not activate any of the TMobile apps.
Pretty happy with it now.

My TBird is schizophrenic

Running the stock unrooted ROM, I was making it to about 2:00PM daily (taking off charge at 5:00AM) before I had to charge the phone. Some heavy use days I didn't make it that long. So I bought an extended battery and for the next four days when I put it on charge at night it still had 40% - 50% battery life left.
Then yesterday with light usage my phone (with extended battery) was rapidly heading for dead by around 2:00PM. I didn't have any different usage but I had been noticing the battery level dropping FAST. The battery usage page said that the screen was using the juice but it only had a usage time of 10 minutes so this didn't make a lot of sense. When it still had 25% left I thought a reboot might help by closing something running that the task killer just wasn't picking up; but when it turned back on it had gone from that 25% to only 8%. Crazy. So I charged it up to about 50 percent before I had to leave work. And for the rest of the night before I put it on charge again at 1:30AM it had only used 3%.
Is HTC working on the battery issue for this thing in the next update? I've still got a few days left to return it and I'm seriously considering it. I'd really hate to because I came from a droid x and am really loving the Sense interface compared to blur. Even compared to gingerblur which i actually liked.
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I installed juice defender last night. Pulled it off of charge at 5:00am again this morning. So far it's only used 4% of a charge. If Juice Defender continues to work this well on the extended battery I may swap back to the original battery and see if it will get through a whole day. I'm pretty sure this has something to do with 4g not working right at times. It doesn't drain the battery this fast every day, only some days. If it was just the way 4g works, it would always drain the battery the way it did yesterday.
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by closing something running that the task killer just wasn't picking up;
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This is most likely your problem.
Don't use a task killer, ever.
As for you Thunderbird being schizo, you should probably post about that in a Ford auto forum.

I actually like my Sensation, but I'm gonna have to return it

Kind of makes me sad though. The device feels good in my hand and I like it overall, but the battery performance is unacceptable for me. I went to bed with it having something like 93% (dropping from 100% after like 15min of play). Not even 6h later I wake up and when I look at it, the battery is already drained to 85% only from standby (Yes,always-on mobile data is deactivated, power efficiency is on). After playing with the unit in train and some browsing while commuting for 30min, its already at 70% or something. During the next few hours, while working, I was just checking mails, using whatsapp from time to time and writing a few messages. No surfing, no videos no games.
By 3PM the battery was at 15%. Even worse, the damn thing takes some 4h+ to fully charge. That's just too damn long, my iphone 3gs charges fully in about an hour. What is also very frustrating is that the Sensation discharges a good portion of its current as pure HEAT. Never saw a phone get this warm afer 15min of normal usage.
I knew battery wasn't going to be stellar but this just sucks. Most of all that a full charge takes 4h. fail :-/
EDIT: Ok guys the 2.3.4 update did the trick! The battery now chrages fully within 2h and battery life has ridiculously improved!
I took it off the cord around 8am this morning. Now it's 2pm and my battery is at 83 with some 46min screen time and slight usage. Also the heating seems to be gone.
Apart from that, everything runs smoother with the new update. Guess I'm gonna keep the little guy after all
However, I did order 2 extra Ankers + charger (25$!) as additional mobilty is never wrong.
Before you return it, I recommend that you call HTC support and request a warranty exchange for the phone and battery.
You may have a defective unit.
While my battery isn't stellar, I get a minimum of 10 hours before I drop below 20% life (always-on mobile data off, manual syncing, not too many widgets).
Your phone battery performance is not indicative of Sensation battery performance for the overall majority.
Most have said that the battery gets better after a few full charges/discharges, and the todays new update is supposed to improve battery performance. Many people say the Sensation is better than most other 4G phones.
I dont play games and such, mostly phone text and email and it lasts me a day and a half. There is also a better battery you can get.
That charging time is ridiculous, which leads me to believe that your unit and/or battery is defective.
Mine charges from 15% to 100% in 2 hours. Same for almost everybody elses phone.
You might want to reconsider and try warranty exchange mentioned earlier. Also, I would suggest the ChiChi battery. I'm running from 7:30 to about 4:00 with my WiFi hot spot turned on for my Galaxy Tab 10.1 and I'm using my phone for calls, texts etc., my battery still has about 30% left when I leave work.
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Dude , custom rom and anker / chitec battery.
My first time with my new anker achieved almost 24 hours on battery and almost 4 hours screen time with quite alot of use during that time.
Totally destroyed my oem battery in every way.
Also I would do a Warranty Exchange and with the new update I have seen a big differance in 2.3.4 vs 2.3.3 in terms of battery life and speed of Sense in general. I purchased a Anker 1900mah battery for $10 and fully charged to dead I get on average about 17-20 hours and I would say I'm a good moderate to HEAVY! user. Switching back to a stock battery after calibrating with the Anker Battery has also improved battery life seeing that I get between 12-14 hours with stock now. I would charge to 100% go to bed and wake up with about 97%-98%
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Dude , custom rom and anker / chitec battery.
My first time with my new anker achieved almost 24 hours on battery and almost 4 hours screen time with quite alot of use during that time.
Totally destroyed my oem battery in every way.
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+1 I agree 110%, Try this though Calibrate the Anker Battery then fully charge your stock battery and see what battery life you get.
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Get a anker battery and download leedroid/android revolution/insertcoin. I guarantee you won't want to return it than. When I first got my device I was thinking about doing the same thing but after I looked through the thread I saw people were getting better results with the anker or chichi. Don't be discouraged that its a third party. It actually out performs the stock battery and embarrasses it.
Also download calibrate battery from the market.
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I had terrible battery life for the first week or so. 6 to 8 hours max, and 2 hours screen time if I was lucky. After conditioning the battery by fully discharging then fully charging on the AC adapter for a few cycles, it corrected itself for the most part. Yesterday I had 15 hours with 3 hours screen time and still had 20+ percent left. I have a chichtech battery sitting in my mailbox right now waiting for me to get off work.
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I had terrible battery life for the first week or so. 6 to 8 hours max, and 2 hours screen time if I was lucky. After conditioning the battery by fully discharging then fully charging on the AC adapter for a few cycles, it corrected itself for the most part. Yesterday I had 15 hours with 3 hours screen time and still had 20+ percent left. I have a chichtech battery sitting in my mailbox right now waiting for me to get off work.
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After I got my anker I sold my OEM and got two more. I also have a evo3d battery that I haven't used. I also have been hearing good things about it.
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really appreciate the good advice guys, thanks. I have done my bit of reading here and many many people here report having around 4h charge timr (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1154780)
So you guys can not confirm this? If so, it might be my battery is faulty. I will upgrade to 2.3.4 and calibrate. Probably will improve battery time, I doubt however it will reduce the charge time...
Something is definitely up. I just got my Sensation 10 days ago and am still stock. It takes me ~2 hours to fully charge, and that's with me using the phone like crazy while its charging....and the phone light on the entire time.
And I get a good full days use out of it....sometimes 2 days if I dont use the screen much and just phone text email.
IT'S ALIVE!!!
Ok guys the 2.3.4 update did the trick! The battery now chrages fully within 2h and battery life has ridiculously improved!
I took it off the cord around 8am this morning. Now it's 2pm and my battery is at 83 with some 46min screen time and slight usage. Also the heating seems to be gone.
Apart from that, everything runs smoother with the new update. Guess I'm gonna keep the little guy after all
However, I did order 2 extra Anker's as additional mobilty is never wrong, and with such an offer it was a steal:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B005DY4MAW/ref=oss_product
Also check if your phone is always awake because I had this and it had a huge affect.
I easily get 16-20 hours with LeeDroid's ROM.
i had the same battery issue with my first sensation. Even after several cycle of charging - discharging, battery calibration, the battery would not last for more than 7-8 hours. i exchanged it , for first couple of days, it didn't hold the charge for long,.but after i did battery calibration and update to 2.3.4, now my battery will last for 12 to 14 hours with moderate use. doesn't get hot with normal use, but over the weekend , i use map navigation and temp reached 48C. I think, i should not use it as GPS for longer than few minutes, or it may burn the phone.
Juice Defender Ultimate is definitely worth the tiny amount of money it costs. Just got just over 3 days on my Sensation, admittedly i hardly used it.
Usually i get a good 22 hours from it with medium use.
HTC sensation
Just replace the battery and you will see the difference.. my phone last ast least 10 hours.. its just amazing....
I lose almost no charge while it sits on standby.
I work 12 hour shifts, I listen to Music the entire time, browse, login to home computers for about 30 minutes using Teamviewer and keep up with RSS feeds throughout.
By the end of shift I'm down to 5%.
Sounds like you need a replacement, rather than a return, bud.

Battery Life

I have had my HOX for a week now and the battery is still pretty bad. Using yesterday I was at 73% when I started listening to Pandora and within 30-40 mins it dropped down to 35%.
Last night, I put it on my nightstand when I went to bed at 85% (screen off none of my apps running) and I couldnt even turn it on this morning...totally drained.
I've been trying to keep an eye on the battery usage but nothing out of the ordinary is running taking up the juice. I leave Blue Tooth and GPS off most all the time. Sync is not enabled and the screen never goes more than 50% brightness.
I'll try to get a screenshot of battery usage next time prior to it draining.
I read it can take a couple weeks to get the battery in shape, but should it still be like this after a week?
Thanks.
Something is wrong with your phone. Either you have an app running in the background or your battery is bunk. Return that phone! I get a good day out of the phone with 2.5hrs of screen on time. Good luck
Could you give us a list of installed apps?
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I went to bed last night at 10p (started the day at 5am) with 62% battery left with light/moderate usage. WIN. Good or bad, it destroys my galaxy nexus I had (VZN) gotten used to over the 6 months ive had it.

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