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Please advise. Captivate issues galore...

Hi all. I just got a Captivate after using Mattc on my HD2 and I used an Aria for a couple weeks as well. I used Mattc on the HD2 for a couple months and really liked it. I understood it was running from the SD and lived with the other issues like slow wake up and occasional goofiness.
So when I got my Captivate I was thinking, wow, I'll have one of(if not the) fastest Android phone on it's native hardware. Everything should rock. I should be blown away... Not.
HELP!
The brightness settings. WTF! Why did they implement like 10 ways the brightness screws with your day. On my HD2 w/Mattc I set the brightness in settings to where I wanted and it stayed. Forever. Also when it hits 10% it kicks the brightness all the way down. 10%? Com on maybe 5%. But what is worse is when it does kick it down I kick it back up but it dims again at every percent it goes down. ANNOYING. Please let me control my phone... Oh and don't get me started on the Browser brightness. Huh? Even with the browser brightness set at max it's still dimmer than my regular brightness setting. Noticably. I only keep my brightness at like 75-80% too.
Also what the hell is with the lame Calendar notification settings? Are there any?
My question is this. Is there any ROM out there that will strip all that Samsung ideology and give me a stock Android experience. Especially without the brightness issues. Why do I need to slide my notification bar to change brightness? All it does for me is just cause my brightness to vary accidentally when I don't want it to.
Why must I add on programs for my Calendar alerts to function normally? Why?
So again. Is there a ROM out there that will strip all the Samsung goofiness? If I can't get this phone to work like I want I'm going to sell it and look for a Telus HTC Desire to use on ATT. HTC phones are the best man. IMHO
Thanks.

juiceppc said:
The brightness settings. WTF! Why did they implement like 10 ways the brightness screws with your day. On my HD2 w/Mattc I set the brightness in settings to where I wanted and it stayed. Forever. Also when it hits 10% it kicks the brightness all the way down. 10%? Com on maybe 5%. But what is worse is when it does kick it down I kick it back up but it dims again at every percent it goes down. ANNOYING. Please let me control my phone... Oh and don't get me started on the Browser brightness. Huh? Even with the browser brightness set at max it's still dimmer than my regular brightness setting. Noticably. I only keep my brightness at like 75-80% too.
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Turn off auto brightness and pick a setting you like. Done.
Also what the hell is with the lame Calendar notification settings? Are there any?
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I don't know what lame is, but I use my Google calendar and I can set notifications. I get notified. Is there a specific problem you have?
My question is this. Is there any ROM out there that will strip all that Samsung ideology and give me a stock Android experience. Especially without the brightness issues. Why do I need to slide my notification bar to change brightness? All it does for me is just cause my brightness to vary accidentally when I don't want it to.
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There is no stock Android experience. Android is just the core - Samsung, HTC, etc, they all add specific things in order for their specific hardware to function. If you don't want what comes on your AT&T Captivate, then you can root and uninstall the apps you don't like, flash one of the many, many cooked ROMs available on this forum (just look around - they are everywhere, and all with great pictures and descriptions and huge threads full of information), tweak settings to your heart's content, or anything else you want to do.
Why must I add on programs for my Calendar alerts to function normally? Why?
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I don't have any add-ons and I get my alerts. What exactly isn't working for you?

Auto brightness has been off. First thing I do-
I do not get audible alerts when a Calendar reminder goes off-(and there is no where in settings to change/check this)
I had to install "Calendar Snooze" to play an audible alert for a Calendar reminder-
Phone is at 10% now fully dimmed. Nice... Considering how bad the battery life is for this phone(for me) I'll be spending a lot of time with the screen fully dimmed.

juiceppc said:
Auto brightness has been off. First thing I do-
I do not get audible alerts when a Calendar reminder goes off-(and there is no where in settings to change/check this)
I had to install "Calendar Snooze" to play an audible alert for a Calendar reminder-
Phone is at 10% now fully dimmed. Nice... Considering how bad the battery life is for this phone(for me) I'll be spending a lot of time with the screen fully dimmed.
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Try reading a little and you will see you can set the brightness at where you want it by un-checking the automatic brightness setting..Then you can swipe along the status bar to raise and lower the brightness..It will stay where you had it set IF the automatic brightness is unchecked..Where you have the slider at will be the brightest it will swipe to..
Set your alerts to something you can hear and turn up the volume..They work fine.
Battery life is not a issue provided you follow some advise..Bump charge it 1 time and then use it till it drains down to single digits before recharging...also make sure you back out of all programs and turn off wi-fi and gps and syncing when you don't need them. Loose any task killer program you have and run it stock..you will find your battery life is excellent..if not you may or may not have a bad battery..Lastly..if you are really dissatisfied with it..take it back..
Good Luck
Mac

In regards to the brightness, turn off auto brightness and the 'power saving option.', that should solve your issue.
As far as removing the AT&T bloatware goes, try Unleash the beast.
If you want to run Froyo try flashing a rom, I used the latest version of Cognition.

Run far away from this phone if you still have the chance.

MikeyMike01 said:
Run far away from this phone if you still have the chance.
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Broad-brush damnations do nothing to help anyone.

Mac11700 said:
Try reading a little and you will see you can set the brightness at where you want it by un-checking the automatic brightness setting..Then you can swipe along the status bar to raise and lower the brightness..It will stay where you had it set IF the automatic brightness is unchecked..Where you have the slider at will be the brightest it will swipe to..
Set your alerts to something you can hear and turn up the volume..They work fine.
Battery life is not a issue provided you follow some advise..Bump charge it 1 time and then use it till it drains down to single digits before recharging...also make sure you back out of all programs and turn off wi-fi and gps and syncing when you don't need them. Loose any task killer program you have and run it stock..you will find your battery life is excellent..if not you may or may not have a bad battery..Lastly..if you are really dissatisfied with it..take it back..
Good Luck
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Thanks for the advice. Although I have done all of those things. I'm kind of coming to one real main pain point that I can't seem to solve. The screen dimming at 10%. Does anyone know how to disable that? Even if I kick the brightness back up after it dims at 10% it will redim at 9% and so on...

Bitter. But hopeful.
Picsman said:
Broad-brush damnations do nothing to help anyone.
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Unfortunately, running away from this phone does seem to be good advise. It doesn't mater how slick it is in theory. Uber display and kickass hardware are useless if the basic functionality suffers due to glitches most of the other options don't seem to exibit.
I decided to play the "mod and wait" game with this thing, and I'm regretting it. Broad-brush damnations would have helped me. At this point, enough issues have came up about this hardware that a "broad-brush" sticky may be warranted. The alert issues found by the OP, may be related to his speaker begining to fail. I had a similar issue. Calander and alarm notifications began failing in some apps, but not others. The phone would still ring. Some apps could still use the speaker. Within a week, nothing could use the speaker, and I had to do the "push-on-it" fix.
It's a forum. Posts are opinions. I've been impressed occasionally by the raw performance of this phone. Yet, I've also spent hours, hours, researching problems, applying fixes, flashing, pushing on the speaker, etc. And I've spent hours "waiting" for the thing to do something simple like send an email when it did fine the day before. With as much time and effort as I've put into researching and working on this phone, I feel like I (and others) have not gotten enough stability out of it.
I propose a broad brush damnation for this phone: "slick but intermittent".

fshalor said:
Unfortunately, running away from this phone does seem to be good advise. It doesn't mater how slick it is in theory. Uber display and kickass hardware are useless if the basic functionality suffers due to glitches most of the other options don't seem to exibit.
I decided to play the "mod and wait" game with this thing, and I'm regretting it. Broad-brush damnations would have helped me. At this point, enough issues have came up about this hardware that a "broad-brush" sticky may be warranted. The alert issues found by the OP, may be related to his speaker begining to fail. I had a similar issue. Calander and alarm notifications began failing in some apps, but not others. The phone would still ring. Some apps could still use the speaker. Within a week, nothing could use the speaker, and I had to do the "push-on-it" fix.
It's a forum. Posts are opinions. I've been impressed occasionally by the raw performance of this phone. Yet, I've also spent hours, hours, researching problems, applying fixes, flashing, pushing on the speaker, etc. And I've spent hours "waiting" for the thing to do something simple like send an email when it did fine the day before. With as much time and effort as I've put into researching and working on this phone, I feel like I (and others) have not gotten enough stability out of it.
I propose a broad brush damnation for this phone: "slick but intermittent".
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haha. Thanks for the ,.. opinion. I'm starting to feel the same way about this phone. I had super high hopes. But I'm really going to stick with HTC. They just get it. IMHO.

I think most people regret buying this phone. Or they will, when FroYo never arrives, the lag gets worse and worse, the phone dies on them, and the GPS never come close to working, the market decides not to intall your app, this, that, or the other thing force closes, etc. etc. etc.

MikeyMike01 said:
I think most people regret buying this phone. Or they will, when FroYo never arrives, the lag gets worse and worse, the phone dies on them, and the GPS never come close to working, the market decides not to intall your app, this, that, or the other thing force closes, etc. etc. etc.
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Umm froyo is already leaked and OTA is on its way.
Lag has never been an issue.
And GPS is a software fix... proven on these boards over and over.
SHEESH... I'd say go tell somewhere else.
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yeah, 5 million people are completely dissatisfied because one guy managed to not know how to operate his phone.....

MikeyMike01 said:
I think most people regret buying this phone. Or they will, when FroYo never arrives, the lag gets worse and worse, the phone dies on them, and the GPS never come close to working, the market decides not to intall your app, this, that, or the other thing force closes, etc. etc. etc.
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I think your wrong. I think quite a few people got defective phones and haven't bothered returning them,thinking that if they root it and flash a different rom that would magically fix a broken phone. This is XDA and folks here mostly do this..thus the reason for most of the complaints. Problem is..it won't change much of anything to reflash if the phone is defective..If it is broken to begin with..it will be broken no matter what you do to it.. If yours is defective..quite *****ing about it and get one that isn't..or a different phone entirely. The working ones are great..just like they are supposed to be.
I have 2 of them built in September..both work and neither is defective.This tells me many of those built prior have some issues..perhaps not all of them..but some of them certainly. This certainly doesn't make it right by anyones account..just saying if yours is defective..return it and get one that isn't.
I honestly don't understand people who have the option of doing this,not doing it.The folks at my AT&T store opened 7 different boxes and checked every one of them for any blue tint on the screen and having the 3 button recovery option..for my second one bought at the same time,so I do know there are many out there that ain't working properly..The OP of this thread..is unhappy with it..damn..loose it and be done with it if you are that unhappy..or take that one back and get them to open up the boxes and show you one that works properly...If it was bought mail order..then you should just return it as defective and get your money back..and buy where you can see it first..It's your choice...and your money.
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Obvious Screen Burn S3

I hardly use my phone. I have a Galaxy S3 bought at the end of July 2012. The last couple days I noticed the burning through of my Home Screen. Its obvious when I have a white screen over it. Its disgusting to think that is happening on a phone not 3 months old yet. I am taking it to the Sprint store on Saturday Oct 13, 2012 to see what bs they give me. When I saw this I thought it was normal so I took it over to a friends house who uses his new S3 15 hours a day and he was shocked to see this.

Hmm... this is pretty weird. Are you stock? If not what Rom and kernel are you using? I'm just wondering if there are any display tweaks or if you made any tweaks that could have caused this. Do you always run full brightness?

adoublearonn said:
Hmm... this is pretty weird. Are you stock? If not what Rom and kernel are you using? I'm just wondering if there are any display tweaks or if you made any tweaks that could have caused this. Do you always run full brightness?
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Also, what is your screen timeout set to? Do you ever leave the screen on (knowing it will turn itself off in a few minutes)?
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tmyc said:
I hardly use my phone. I have a Galaxy S3 bought at the end of July 2012. The last couple days I noticed the burning through of my Home Screen. Its obvious when I have a white screen over it. Its disgusting to think that is happening on a phone not 3 months old yet. I am taking it to the Sprint store on Saturday Oct 13, 2012 to see what bs they give me. When I saw this I thought it was normal so I took it over to a friends house who uses his new S3 15 hours a day and he was shocked to see this.
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That's weird. Are you sure it's actually screen burn and not the system software keeping a ghost image?
Also, why would you bring your Verizon phone to the Sprint store? Since this is the Verizon forum I'm assuming that's your carrier.

Well image persistence is a well documented issue on AMOLED screens, so its not something that is unheard of. It is kinda strange to see it on a lightly used phone, however. I would also be curious to know your screen timeout settings. Also, can you think of any situation at all where your screen might have remained on for an extended period?

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Well image persistence is a well documented issue on AMOLED screens, so its not something that is unheard of. It is kinda strange to see it on a lightly used phone, however. I would also be curious to know your screen timeout settings. Also, can you think of any situation at all where your screen might have remained on for an extended period?
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Ok... My timeout screen is set at two minutes. Yes it is at its brightest level automatic off. Now over the last couple weeks. I had it on for a long time on my desk/ overnight maybe 3 days. As someone said before, as a glamorous clock. No excuses there, but I wasn't aware of screen burn like this. Now those 3 days of overnight probably was more than 10x the amount the phone has ever been used. Since July 1 10 minutes of phone usage, and I've used it stream music from my pogo plug.
Sorry about the Verizon Forum... I didn't notice that until I posted this, and I don't know how to move it to the Sprint Forum. If mod wants to move thats perfect.
Sprints' answer today, was that they wanted to charge me $35 to hard reset because I don't have service plan. I did not feel I should have to pay to check out the phone. I've been a customer of Sprint since the very beginning. A CUSTOMER, Who never uses the two phones it subscribes to. If they were to look at my records for the last 20 years, they would be amazed at the non usage. I think I started with a $5 a month plan back in the day. Now $125, they have made plenty of money on my account for all those years. I told the sprint store rep that Samsung has a 1 year warranty on this... His answer, "then deal directly with Samsung. We will charge $35 to diagnose the problem." It was a hard stance by this store. I've dealt with them when I got this phone with a scratched screen, and also a hard stance with replacing it in 20 days. Its my fault because I don't use the phone, but when I looked I saw the scratch. By replacing the phone then, I used up my 90 day warranty to replace the phone I think. So now of course I have nothing to work with. I will be connecting with Executive Offices in Virginia on Monday Morning, hopefully I can get a decent response from them. All this over $35 and Screen Burn.

Ah yes leaving the screen on overnight several times is definitely enough to permanently damage the screen. Full brightness also didnt help. I can't say its your fault, because this type of issue isnt very well reported on (or disclosed). I love the beautiful brilliance of AMOLED, but its unfortunate that they cant handle long periods of use. Sorry for your luck, wish there was something more I could say.

I'd your phone the blue one?
I've seen very bad burn in on the store demos.
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Forgetfull said:
I'd your phone the blue one?
I've seen very bad burn in on the store demos.
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No its a white phone, now with SCREEN BURN ! You'd think they would warn people of this, but I guess not. We'll have to see what sprint says next week. If nothing from them I'll just send it to Samsung for year warranty period. I Don't use the phone that much anyway. Its a glorified MP3 player for me.

tmyc said:
No its a white phone, now with SCREEN BURN ! You'd think they would warn people of this, but I guess not. We'll have to see what sprint says next week. If nothing from them I'll just send it to Samsung for year warranty period. I Don't use the phone that much anyway. Its a glorified MP3 player for me.
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Screen burn in general is a very OLD concept... if you've used computers at all while growing up and are older than 10, you should have an idea about screen burn and make sure you take steps to prevent it if you are not sure of your device or know your device is susceptible to it. :-/

There are two types of burn, screen burn and image retention. This could just be image retention and can be fixed with a rotating pattern of static images. At least that is what you do with plasma tvs but it wouldn't hurt to see if you can do the same with a phone.

Update. Talked to sprint exe offices. I will have to pay the $35 up front, but then scan receipt and send back to Sprint to get it refunded. Sprint store verified screen burn and ordered new phone.
Ok... I like the phone bright. If doing this puts my phone at risk for screen burn... what do I have to do to my settings to stop this from happening again? I do prefer the phone to stay on for more than a couple minutes when I'm using it and of course the brightness.

It is the nature of Amoleds. If you do any reading on them it explains why they burn in so bad. So far every Samsung I've seen with an Amoled has burn in. Moment, Epic, Epic touch, Galaxy Nexus, and even the GSIII.
As mentioned earlier, you just have to take precautions.

Just don't leave the screen on overnight and you shouldnt have a problem.

I have two G3's, the one I use as my DD shows the exact same thing.

tmyc said:
Update. Talked to sprint exe offices. I will have to pay the $35 up front, but then scan receipt and send back to Sprint to get it refunded. Sprint store verified screen burn and ordered new phone.
Ok... I like the phone bright. If doing this puts my phone at risk for screen burn... what do I have to do to my settings to stop this from happening again? I do prefer the phone to stay on for more than a couple minutes when I'm using it and of course the brightness.
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notch the brightness down a smidgon and have the screen off set at something shorter, you just have to tap your phone every now and then to keep it on while you're actively using it and when you're not it will turn off quicker. And like the guy said, don't leave the freakin thing on all night like that. SMH

To be honest, I'm surprised Sprint even entertained the idea of looking at your phone if it wasn't currently activated. Unless it just wasn't currently activated for some type of service issue. Unless you meant insurance (TEP) when you said service plan. Which, in that case, would be BS imo.
I would have thought you would have had to deal with Samsung directly.

Well, I've had my GS3 since July and I'm experiencing the exact same issue with image burn-in. This is going to be a widespread problem as more people realize they have their home screen icons permanently ghosted into their screen... especially against a white background.
If you google the GS3 burn-in, you will already find that Samsung in Korea first denied a problem, but then backed off and is now replacing the screens.
Unfortunately, my screen does not turn off while it's charging, and even if I manually turn it off, it will turn back on and stay on once it hits 100%. I'm sure other people are aware of that bug once the notification of full charge pops up. Google "GS3 turns on after charge", or something similar, and there are a slew of folks complaining about their phones lighting up their bedrooms in the middle of the night. This happens to my phone every night and I'm sure it's the reason I have the burn-in.
My next steps are similar to the OP. I have sprint and will be marching down to a full service center store to get a replacement ordered.
I don't even know how Samsung would replace just the screen... wouldn't that comprimise the whole sealed unit and allow for dust to get between the outside glass and the actual AMOLED?!? Who knows, but I'm going through Sprint first.
This is extremely disappointing.

Burn In "Fix"
Can't allready burned in screens be alleviated with simple full screen images of RBG full screen? THis idea doesn't actually "fix" dying pixels and whatnot, but its a quick and dirty fix for some burn in.
Play store link if you wanna try it:
http://full.sc/Qsjg5H
Of course, an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
- If you must have a theme, use low intensity colors (the bright blue battery in a status bar is kind of burn in candy)
- As mentioned before, lower your brightness levels
- Also as mentioned before, turn off your screen when you aren't looking at it, and set your screen timeout to the shortest time bearable.
-- One thing that can help with a short screen timeout, is to set your screen to not lock immediately on timeout (have it wait a tick to actually lock after going black), that way you can easily get your screen back on with the application you were using without having to swipe or pin or faceunlock.
Ta,
ALQI

Things that really bother me about the current SW2 and why:

There really should be a pinned thread for utter disappointed features and/or people.
I am not returning my new SW2. Its too cool to have the lamest, inept and funtion-killing GUI cause me to give up. ** But I bought a Pebble watch the same day because (the SW2n currently):
- can not function as a watch. It does but it goes to sleep VERY fast. WAY too fast. This is completely unacceptable. If I want to drain my f*ing watch and be able to read it all day, I should be able to!!! Put a warning on the settings area.. like: WILL DRAIN BATTERY VERY FAST or something...
- Can not finish reading my incoming sms. Maybe you dont know the girl I am dating but she WRITES A LOT... and this may not be normal amounts ... I really mean a lot. And SONY clearly has NO IDEA about this.
- AND continuing from the above point, it goes back to the f*ing CLOCK in sleep mode. SHOULD dim and remain on my screen until I SAY OTHERWISE. NOW I have to press the power button and NOT make it power off buy accident (another STUPID DESIGN) and make it activate, press the home button and then the stupid function messaging button. NO LOGIC FLOW HERE. I have to read 5 or 6 TXTs by now.
- CAN NOT read the messages in order without going BACK and opening the messaging app again. At least that seems to be what I had to do. I might have missed proper procedure here but if that is true, shame on SONY for lacking a more intuitive operation.
The Poweramp app is cool when it works. It should STAY active. I DONT CARE about anyone else or what slogan SONY wants to claim about battery life. I want FUNCTION my f*ing way. I use Poweramp all the time. But it is not able to stay on my watch, active? Total shame.
The ONLY app I kept on my watch is the custom watch faces. It allwos me to keep the display on until the dumbwatch, overthinking watch disconnects from my RazrMaxx/4.4 Dhacker29 ROM.
So in conclusion, This watch completely fails at being a watch. Fails at running apps because it times out WAY TOO FAST. Fails at every possible area other than fitting well.

Maybe your accelerometer is faulty. It should not timeout when on hand, actually it dims and always shows time.
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jmaciak said:
Maybe your accelerometer is faulty. It should not timeout when on hand, actually it dims and always shows time.
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I hate to be the guy to say it, but is the OP trolling us?
I have the smartwatch 2, just got it yesterday, and what the OP is saying makes no sense.

deitiphobia said:
I hate to be the guy to say it, but is the OP trolling us?
I have the smartwatch 2, just got it yesterday, and what the OP is saying makes no sense.
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Well it can timeout and go totally blank ... try it, put them on the table and do not move the watch/table and it will dim and then go completely blank after a while, because the accelerometer sees it's not on the hand. So if OP's accelerometer is faulty, it might behave this way ...

jmaciak said:
Well it can timeout and go totally blank ... try it, put them on the table and do not move the watch/table and it will dim and then go completely blank after a while, because the accelerometer sees it's not on the hand. So if OP's accelerometer is faulty, it might behave this way ...
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I am not a troll. At least I am not trying to be a troll. I do feel slightly underwhelmed buy my experience so far.
And maybe my accelerometer needs checking? If it is supposed to remain on (the screen) for more than 5 seconds when I am wearing it and trying to read something, then yes, something is wrong. Maybe the watch doesnt know when it is on a troll arm?

deitiphobia said:
I hate to be the guy to say it, but is the OP trolling us?
I have the smartwatch 2, just got it yesterday, and what the OP is saying makes no sense.
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Hello,
What he is saying actually makes perfect sense, especially on this forum - we are not the average, marketing-targeted user and we like to use our devices any way we please, without being limited by design hickups. And we are more sensitive to design flaws and marketing bs than the average consumer.
Sony missed and even lied about basic features and is not allowing, at least so far, anyone to tweak with this product's FW.
In my experience the watch proved very useful ONLY IF YOU ARE NOT RELYING SOLELY ON IT for most of your work - i, for one, would not like to read my correspondence on such a tiny screen and prefer to use the phone instead - but it would sure be nice to know that I CAN use the watch if i wanted to.
Fortunately, while driving a motorcycle, for example, getting a hint of the message content usually suffices for me to determine if i need to pullover and get my phone out, provided i get to see the screen before it times-out, which is another awkwardly missing basic function.
I will, however, hold on to the SW2 for now in hopes that Sony will straighten things the way they should.
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i agree fully with the OP as well
if i didn't know better, i would suggest posting your opinions on talk sonymobile, but as i already did that and got NO reply from Sony, i guess it would be just a waiste of time
that's my biggest problem with Sony right now: no communication
(although i must admit most manufacturers suck at communicating with their customers, try finding out when the Butterfly s is getting 4.3/4.4, not a chance)

I actually agree with the OP, there are some features that could be included in the settings menu like timeout duration or stopping the watch default to the watch screen every time it goes into standbye especially useful if travelling and using features like poweramp - you need 3x button presses to bring the poweramp screen back on and if you have a messaging app open (reading messages) it should prevent the watch from sleeping
and how fecking hard is it to develop a few watch face designs with different colours etc
TBH I think Sony are in the process of designing a totally new Smartwatch for release in early 2014 and have completely dropped the ball with this one

well, there was an update today, so i guess they didn't drop it completely
update looked good at first, but disappointing anyway
-only 1 extra watch face that's usable, i still want the abilty to design/choose my own watch face
-the option to use the light sensor for brightness is nice, but i'm glad it's optional, don't like it
-music app update totally messed it up (used to work for me)
-camera app update didn't do anything for me, still does nothing
-still no selectable timeout, huge issue for me
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Find It for SmartWatch by AQ i purchased also doesn't work anymore
argh, their own Find Phone Smart Extension ALSO doesn't work anymore!

JarlSX said:
their own Find Phone Smart Extension ALSO doesn't work anymore!
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AFAIK I suspect that problems might occur pairing the SW2 with a non-Sony smartphone.
But please let's keep the discussion in one place only, so we can better compare these findings:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2554874

i think i know why the watch can't dim while still displaying an app
those apps don't really run on the watch, they're just displaying what's happening on the phone (that's where the app is installed)
so for a watch-app to work, the watch is constantly communicating with the phone
such a connection will probably drain the watch very quickly
only the watch part can run independently, so that's why it always goes back to that screen, to save power
this is of course just what i think

FWIW, the screen on time can be controlled by the app. I use and app called IPBike for cycling which runs on the phone. This app allows you to use the watch as a head unit on the bars. It has an option to keep the watch screen on for the entire ride.

jmaciak said:
Well it can timeout and go totally blank ... try it, put them on the table and do not move the watch/table and it will dim and then go completely blank after a while, because the accelerometer sees it's not on the hand. So if OP's accelerometer is faulty, it might behave this way ...
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Should it really go totally blank/black? Mine is only dimmed out and showing clock face all the time, but really dimmy. And it is on the table...
Oh it does, took some time, longer than i expected...
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How to get the most out of your phones battery, reas on!

ome one said I should post this on a mainstream board, so it will help out others too, I am too lazy to edit the some things so please pretend that I am refering to JUST YOUR PHONE. This basically apply's to every ones phone. Even the iphone. so please ignore droid turbo and copy and paste your phone name. take everything with a grain of salt. I refuse to take any one seriously if you fail to see that you missed the point of my thread. here it comes (copy and paste lol desu).
So I pick up my Droid Trubo (only for the specs) and I noticed that Verizon is claiming that you can get a whole 48 hours off your phone with out having to charge your phone within those 48 hours. makes me giggle but the battery is a 3900mAh battery. Pretty sweet, but inevitably on day one release I have seen articles and posts of people claiming that they only get no less then 9-12 hours on there turbo before they have to charge..... (Not claiming I know all there is to phones) but I had a feeling that any one complaining about the battery on there phone probably (in fact i am 110% sure) that they have no idea what exactly takes up power usage on there phone. I charge my phone up to about 100 percent, I used it consistently watching you tube video's web browsing listening to music, all that jazz, you name it and I probably did it. After a whole 25 hours(in counting) my phone sat at a woping 67% battery charge. Verizon held up there part of the bargain and this is by no means them lieing to us. So I am going to start listing off on why your phone literally dies after only 5 hours.
1.Brightness: Thats rite folks, turning your brightness to the max is a very sexy way to speed up the process of killing your battery, I highly recommend that you simply set the brightness to automatic and you should be set. Brightness kills your battery, but this is not the only thing that you probably goofed in, lets read on.
1.Wallpaper: You know, I kinda don't consider this one to be much of a big deal, but it is true non the less(still kinda not that big of deal) but have LIVE wallpaper does consume much more power vs having just a normal wallpaper background.
3. Mother fu**ing gps/location : So I noticed that every one and there grandmother, turns on the GPS/location(well, more like you hit yes to turn it on and forgot about it sense) setting on there device for Google map, or maybe you want your friends to know where your making yourself look lost with selfie picks of Facebook or instagram. Now let me tell you having the gps setting to detect your location or use it on google maps KILLS YOUR BATTERY faster then you can say "How do i get to the control panel?". Generally on your average phone your looking at (if your lucky) a solid 4-6 hours before you have to charge your phone because you have this on all the time(and probably everything else I list aswell). The GPS tracking system is always on REGARDLESS if you are or not using google maps, facebook, instagram etc. I can imagine that with turbo you would only survive for a good 10 hours before you have to charge your phone again. Make sure you go into your phone setting and turn of gps location and only use it when you need it at that time.
Mobile and Wifi usage: Now, Of course this takes up power, but I always get a kick out of watching every one have there wifi AND there mobile data active at the same time. This is very effective for killing your phone sooner, rather then later. Dont get me wrong your phone is either going to use one or the other, but its still outputting power to keep a connection, VS having it actually turned off, and having it simply notify you that there is a connection available.
Now Maybe alot of you are like "this guy does not know what he's talking about I have this on all the time and I still only get 10 hours". If you are thinking this, I recommend you take the moment to stand up take 2 steps back and punch yourself in the stomach, when your able to breath come back and go through the steps in making sure that your phone does not have all these setting turn on at ones.
Ya, ultimately this is the bread and butter list that kills peoples battery's that I see all the time (dont play yourself, you know who you are) . So I guess I will go just a little more in-depth on how I get an easy 48 hours on the phone with no sweat.
Ultimately, when I am at my house, I keep my wifi data on, with my brightness set to auto. As far as Droids turbo goes, this will be easy peasy for your phone to get to the whole day, go ahead and watch some you-tube videos, hell take a bunch of pictures while your at it, (fun fact, your video recorder is pretty niffty for draining battery) I only turn my gps location on when I need to get from point A to Point B and always remember to turn it of after I am done using it.
I want to talk about 1 more technical thing before I Wrap this up, I notice that some people say "I checked my battery today and it says that this app took up 30% of my power! WTF? I disabled it and removed it). you guys mite want to pay better attention to the battery, for example, my phone lost about a good 5% after like 1-2 hours of you-tube or something, when I looked at the battery status rite from the get go, it told me that you tube took 70% of my power usage. but mind you, your phone is telling you it took up 70% of power in the 5% battery period. some people don't pay close attention to these details so when they go on there battery status at the end of the day they do back-flips for days on the fact that there app or (my favorite) screen took up so much power on there phones.
Ya my guide is not the best, just posting this out there to hopefully get this concept through to some people. I am just your average power user, with a nice phone, and a ton of trig homework to catch up on, feel free to ask me any question, I mite go and post this in the general/Q & A threads.
Just got done proof reading, If things are still terrible, I recommend you kill it with fire, and hyperventilate until your amazon prime order of frozen yogurt arrives at the back of your basement step.
UPDATE: Ok, just so I stop getting bombarded with these pointless reply's (who am I kidding some one is still gonna call me a dumbass am I rite?) this is what I expect for you guys to get out of this thread, I will use myself in this example).
ME : let's see so I turned off all my features on the phone (or for what ever reason some of you like to call it a dumb phone). Now everything is OFF.
- I am sitting down and I want to shoot a text or make a phone call to my friend. I do just that that and......OH SNAP! I don't need my mobile 4g lte to be turned on if all I am doing is sending/receiving text messages/phone calls. Sweet! BUT WAIT, I want to go on SPACE-BOOK AND want to know when people post comments on my selfies! Then I will simply keep my mobile data on 24/7(when I am at home switch to my wifi and turn off mobile) so I can retrieve those oh so important selfie updates! I know keeping mobile data on at all times will drain my batter faster then having it off, but for just posting comments on space-book, or doing web serfing that should be of no problem ESPECIALLY if you have the turbo. So flick the mobile data on if you want to know whats going on in your twitter or what have you. I don't twitter, space-book, instagram or any of that Personally, I only turn on mobile data when I need to web browse (I do heavy web browsing myself, but that wont be too much battery drain.). Thats just me. Pick your options and learn what takes up more power when you do it. Learn what you need to do to accomplish these goals through out the day because lets face it people, selfies make the world go round. I mean if you go to the gym and work out for 2 hours but did not take a selfie, then it does not count. every one know that! (to keep myself sain, you will notice I will constantly be mis pronouncing names and I will be using Selfies as a general term for "those people" that like to take pictures of everything. I have to point this out because some one will say "I dont just take selfies I take "insert stupid category here" with my phone! YES because I am sure what ever pictures you take is of that much different from selfies!")
2. Alrgiht! So I leave my mobile data on all the time go web serfing and I take selfies of myself looking lost in towns. No problem for the droid turbo! but you know what? I also want to watch a bunch of video's! whatching video's on your phone will of course drain the battery faster (stack that on with user number 1.) though it does take away more power from your phone its not that bad if the video is actually on your phone, what's that? you want to go to youtube and watch 720 or 1080p cat video's. Thats gonna cost more resources, your going to need your phone to output its data connection to start STREAMING 720 or 1080p cat video's! Thats pretty demanding for anyphone regardless. If you do it here and there through out the day, you will lose power faster, but if you stream 720p cat video's all day, then your turbo probably wont survive the 24 hour mark. (2 hours streaming cat videos and 2 girls one cup is not going to destroy your phone but it will require a nice chunk of your battery non the less).
3. HOLD ON NOW, I need people to know where I am at 24/7 so lets flick on that locations app! once again this will stack on to your demanding needs of power, 24/7 mobile data turn on with your 2 hours of streaming 720p cat video's and 2 girls 1 cup, with selfies (lets not forget your camera and video record do tend to take up power giving you those true HD pictures. Now you got your phone Twerking to constantly feed your location to your app. Then it costs even more power when you use it.
4. I also want max screen brightness and my Bluetooth (though bluetooth is not so bad, just depends how you use it) for my headphones....I also want to have high frequency mode turned on while im at it too so I can use gps!.....with a LIVE wallpaper!
Do you guys see where I am getting at with all this? you need to treat your phone like a car. you need to know what features take up how much power and how long you plan to keep them on. I am not telling you, to turn EVERYTHING OFF and boom 48 hours. I am telling you that your phone has a **** ton of power and its up to you to learn what apps and what features drain how much power and how fast and how long do you plann to use it? You may think its so small or it does not take that much power but the more you stack things on to your phone the more power its going to need. You need to think about it like if it was yourself. If I told you to walk for one mile you would totally (I hope) be fine doing it no sweat, but what If i told you to RUN for one mile your body is going to take way more energy to make you run at a descent pace vs walking. I really do hope (in my opinion) my fun explanation helps you guys understand the concept's of phone power usage. Over time if your like me and a few other power users I know, you will have absolutely no problems what so ever keeping your phone alive, because we piratically know when its going to die and when we will need to charge. comes with experience.
Final note: just remember, if you think this is stupid or all this is a waist of time, then I recommend punching yourself in the stomach and simply waiting for that amazon prime order of frozen yogurt to arrive at your door step. that's all I got to say, Im gonna go through and proof read this so it does not sound too dumb (i gotta get back to that trig homework). I need to emphasize though, if your gonna be naive and not see the point of my thread, just punch you self in the stomach and take a selfie saying you just got done working out, it works EVERY TIME, I promise!

Thanks!
Thank you for these info..

sharkboy0328 said:
Thank you for these info..
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Your welcome

Anyone else absolutely hate this phone?

The 5g is horrendous
The Bluetooth sucks doesn't connect or work for half my devices any other cheap phone works flawlessly.
Phone freezes up on web pages constantly.
This phone is absolute trash.
I feel so ripped off for as much as I payed for this hunk of junk it should work.
The pictures are **** too... blurry an ****ed off.
When I call people they can't hear a word I say...
What else could go wrong?
Really wish I had waited for the pixel 5.
Even a 3 year old pixel smokes this trash.

Hopefully the next gen will be better.
I didn't have an issue with mine , but sold it today. I prefer the slick oneplus 8 pro. Less pork and more of an on point device.

Snapdragon or Exynos?

socalstagetech said:
The 5g is horrendous
The Bluetooth sucks doesn't connect or work for half my devices any other cheap phone works flawlessly.
Phone freezes up on web pages constantly.
This phone is absolute trash.
I feel so ripped off for as much as I payed for this hunk of junk it should work.
The pictures are **** too... blurry an ****ed off.
When I call people they can't hear a word I say...
What else could go wrong?
Really wish I had waited for the pixel 5.
Even a 3 year old pixel smokes this trash.
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I would like to take over for FREE. Lol
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socalstagetech said:
The 5g is horrendous
The Bluetooth sucks doesn't connect or work for half my devices any other cheap phone works flawlessly.
Phone freezes up on web pages constantly.
This phone is absolute trash.
I feel so ripped off for as much as I payed for this hunk of junk it should work.
The pictures are **** too... blurry an ****ed off.
When I call people they can't hear a word I say...
What else could go wrong?
Really wish I had waited for the pixel 5.
Even a 3 year old pixel smokes this trash.
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Ever considered you've gotten a lemon? I've literally had zero of those issues since the launch date
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I had the same Bluetooth connection issues with the s20 ultra same 5g issues an poor picture quality.
That would be nice if it was just a lemon. I'm going to spend the day tomorrow with t-mobile.
The fast charger also died withing the first two weeks.
They want me to drive 40 miles to pick a new one up.
Really over samsung. Over priced and undelivered.

socalstagetech said:
I had the same Bluetooth connection issues with the s20 ultra same 5g issues an poor picture quality.
That would be nice if it was just a lemon. I'm going to spend the day tomorrow with t-mobile.
The fast charger also died withing the first two weeks.
They want me to drive 40 miles to pick a new one up.
Really over samsung. Over priced and undelivered.
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I feel you. Samsung support sucks; it's not your imagination.
I have a 10+ and have been eyeballing the 20U as an upgrade. There do appear to be display issues on some of these phones.
As for bt, try a network reset; it's relatively painless and may help.
Clear the system cache on the boot menu.
Double check all settings.
Turn off all power management except the power mode; set to optimize.
In Developer options>standby apps, if all buckets show as active, power management is disable. See if Android will manage them better with no assigned buckets.
Look for apps using up bandwidth/battery, cloud apps including Google Transport are prime offenders.
Disable Samsung, carrier and Google feedback.
Consider adding a package disabler like PD MDM the shutdown the bloatware.
See if that helps... play with it.

socalstagetech said:
The 5g is horrendous
The Bluetooth sucks doesn't connect or work for half my devices any other cheap phone works flawlessly.
Phone freezes up on web pages constantly.
This phone is absolute trash.
I feel so ripped off for as much as I payed for this hunk of junk it should work.
The pictures are **** too... blurry an ****ed off.
When I call people they can't hear a word I say...
What else could go wrong?
Really wish I had waited for the pixel 5.
Even a 3 year old pixel smokes this trash.
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I've had mine for months and haven't experienced a single issue you experienced, just get another phone if you're unhappy and stop the whining

btmusicman313 said:
I've had mine for months and haven't experienced a single issue you experienced, just get another phone if you're unhappy and stop the whining
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That doesn't help.
Depending on the carrier firmware the same model can behave much different.
Took me close to 6 months to dial in my AT&T 10+, it was a handful. Running hot, chewing up the battery.
Today, a year latter, it's a totally different animal; fast, stable with good battery life and no glitches.
These phones are complex with a lot of settings plus added carrier and 3rd party apks not to mention the Samsung apks. No configuration is the same.
If you don't play with them you'll never get it optimized and you'll just be along for the ride... wherever it goes.

blackhawk said:
I feel you. Samsung support sucks; it's not your imagination.
I have a 10+ and have been eyeballing the 20U as an upgrade. There do appear to be display issues on some of these phones.
As for bt, try a network reset; it's relatively painless and may help.
Clear the system cache on the boot menu.
Double check all settings.
Turn off all power management except the power mode; set to optimize.
In Developer options>standby apps, if all buckets show as active, power management is disable. See if Android will manage them better with no assigned buckets.
Look for apps using up bandwidth/battery, cloud apps including Google Transport are prime offenders.
Disable Samsung, carrier and Google feedback.
Consider adding a package disabler like PD MDM the shutdown the bloatware.
See if that helps... play with it.
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Thank you very much for the helpful suggestions! I'm going to try it and see how it goes.
I very much appreciate the helpful reply.

socalstagetech said:
Thank you very much for the helpful suggestions! I'm going to try it and see how it goes.
I very much appreciate the helpful reply.
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You're welcome.
A hard reboot (simulating pulling the battery) may get it too if you haven't try it. Again clearing the system cache can cure many gremlins like magic, easy to do and worth trying.
Another possibility is the phone was infected with a virus or trojan, this is very unlikely though unless you inadvertently downloaded or loaded it.
Scan it with Malwarebytes and Trojan Scanner.
If in doubt reload.
Normally reloads aren't a solution unless it's an old load or if compromised by a virus.
If you reload check the system before you load anything except from Playstore; assume the SD card or computer backups could be compromised as well.
If you reload avoid doing any updates at first as one of these could be causing the erratic behavior.
If you did a firmware update this could be the cause; clearing the system cache may fix it but a reload is better. I disable autoupdates especially from the carrier for this reason among others.
More than likely you get it sorted out or at worst return for repairs.
Reload it though before you return it. Fixable software/settings issues* are common on these phones.
Lol, Androids wuv to be played with... good luck
*if you have a clean load it's always preferable to find the cause of the malfunction rather than reloading as the same issue may well happen again from the same apk or incorrect setting(s).

socalstagetech said:
The 5g is horrendous
The Bluetooth sucks doesn't connect or work for half my devices any other cheap phone works flawlessly.
Phone freezes up on web pages constantly.
This phone is absolute trash.
I feel so ripped off for as much as I payed for this hunk of junk it should work.
The pictures are **** too... blurry an ****ed off.
When I call people they can't hear a word I say...
What else could go wrong?
Really wish I had waited for the pixel 5.
Even a 3 year old pixel smokes this trash.
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Not even a single issue I have faced so far. Two month with me now. Fabulously amazing in every bit of it. Are you sure you have Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra there [emoji848]?
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socalstagetech said:
The 5g is horrendous
The Bluetooth sucks doesn't connect or work for half my devices any other cheap phone works flawlessly.
Phone freezes up on web pages constantly.
This phone is absolute trash.
I feel so ripped off for as much as I payed for this hunk of junk it should work.
The pictures are **** too... blurry an ****ed off.
When I call people they can't hear a word I say...
What else could go wrong?
Really wish I had waited for the pixel 5.
Even a 3 year old pixel smokes this trash.
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Honestly, I would have it exchanged if you are having that many problems with it, sounds like you may have a defective unit, it happens, could be something as simple as a faulty motherboard causing all those issues that a quick exchange would solve
Got to say this is the best phone I've ever owned so I'm extremely surprised you're having all those problems, contact whoever you bought it from, tell them what you told us and get a replacement unit sent out

socalstagetech said:
Thank you very much for the helpful suggestions! I'm going to try it and see how it goes.
I very much appreciate the helpful reply.
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*Detection* said:
Honestly, I would have it exchanged if you are having that many problems with it, sounds like you may have a defective unit, it happens, could be something as simple as a faulty motherboard causing all those issues that a quick exchange would solve
Got to say this is the best phone I've ever owned so I'm extremely surprised you're having all those problems, contact whoever you bought it from, tell them what you told us and get a replacement unit sent out
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Could be a bad mobo but it's easier to reload then to exchange it and then have the exact same issues.
Happened to me with the 10+, bt audio was horrible.
Return it and at first it was running normally then boom the exact same thing. I knew it was software but I didn't manually toggle it!
Samsung tech zero help, same-same with AT&T tech support.
The problem goes back at least as far as the N9 and that's where I found the solution.
It was a glitch in the advanced audio settings that sometimes toggles on by it's self probably due to a glitch in Wearables.
Samsung finally fixed it about a half year about with a Wearables update. It took them over 2 years.
If you knew about it, it was easy to simply untoggled it occasionally, if not it was an audio nightmare.
The only other way to reset it was a pointless reload.
I like the shotgun get it done approach but you can needlessly spend time without a solution if you don't first try to verify if it's hardware, bad flash or an issue that's pure software.
Out of the box this AT&T 10+ was a puking, bandwidth/battery eating, hot running mess besides the bt glitch.
Today with the same OS version and a lot of optimizing it's stable, fast, gorgeous looking platform with good battery life.
It wasn't even close to this out of the box...
If you don't take the time to play with these phones you'll miss the functionality they're capable of and put up will a lot of unpleasant experiences needlessly.
A misbehaving Android is an opportunity to learn new tricks. Just dive in... and see where it takes you.

I can confirm on pics being blurry. Also Samsung should calibrate their displays like Apple. Its shouldn't be left for users to find the right setting. Also the screen is not crisp in fhd mode. My Xr with 820p looked sharper.

RISHI RAJ said:
Also the screen is not crisp in fhd mode. My Xr with 820p looked sharper.
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Increase minimum DPI in developers options for way better sharpness / clarity

RISHI RAJ said:
I can confirm on pics being blurry. Also Samsung should calibrate their displays like Apple. Its shouldn't be left for users to find the right setting. Also the screen is not crisp in fhd mode. My Xr with 820p looked sharper.
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I try to take pics of my plants and it takes a ton of shots to get one nice clear one. I have a pixel 3 and the camera taking the same pics in the same lighting are beautiful and easy to capture perfectly the first time.
My screen just froze while typing this reply ?
Whole thing freezes up and you have to hit home button or the current running apps then pop back in to get it to come back.

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Increase minimum DPI in developers options for way better sharpness / clarity
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Exactly where is that setting at in developer options?

RISHI RAJ said:
I can confirm on pics being blurry. Also Samsung should calibrate their displays like Apple. Its shouldn't be left for users to find the right setting. Also the screen is not crisp in fhd mode. My Xr with 820p looked sharper.
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socalstagetech said:
I try to take pics of my plants and it takes a ton of shots to get one nice clear one. I have a pixel 3 and the camera taking the same pics in the same lighting are beautiful and easy to capture perfectly the first time.
My screen just froze while typing this reply
Whole thing freezes up and you have to hit home button or the current running apps then pop back in to get it to come back.
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Android color calibration (ie no calibration) sucks.
When will they get the message?
After 5+ years you would think they would know better?
I could calibrate my color throughput/monitor on Windows 15 years ago...
Make sure Bixby Vision and Bixby Vision Framework are not disabled; needed by the cam, the rest of Bixby can be disabled.
Check cam settings and manually set the AF lock point if you aren't. Try a data reset on the app and clear the system cache. Could be hardware but more likely user, settings, software or firmware related.
My browser will lock up if too many windows are open (52 open now) or if the browser cache gets too large or corrupted. Might the browser; my primary one is Brave. The Samsung browser handles about 15 or so open windows.
I chased down dozens of issues on my 10+ to get it where it is today over mostly a 6 month period.
I'm careful about all updates and new apps as these can cause havoc especially the former.
Still running on Pie because it's fast, stable, secure enough for my setup and everything is now running well.
Constantly upgrading is time consuming at best and the outcome not always an improvement. I use the factory load for a bunch of apks still... with good results.

blackhawk said:
Android color calibration (ie no calibration) sucks.
When will they get the message?
After 5+ years you would think they would know better?
I could calibrate my color throughput/monitor on Windows 15 years ago...
Make sure Bixby Vision and Bixby Vision Framework are not disabled; needed by the cam, the rest of Bixby can be disabled.
Check cam settings and manually set the AF lock point if you aren't. Try a data reset on the app and clear the system cache. Could be hardware but more likely user, settings, software or firmware related.
My browser will lock up if too many windows are open (52 open now) or if the browser cache gets too large or corrupted. Might the browser; my primary one is Brave. The Samsung browser handles about 15 or so open windows.
I chased down dozens of issues on my 10+ to get it where it is today over mostly a 6 month period.
I'm careful about all updates and new apps as these can cause havoc especially the former.
Still running on Pie because it's fast, stable, secure enough for my setup and everything is now running well.
Constantly upgrading is time consuming at best and the outcome not always an improvement. I use the factory load for a bunch of apks still... with good results.
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You don't need Bixby Vision and Bixby Vision Framework enabled for the camera to work.