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EDIT: Yes I know that this has been a long standing issue...but I never heard of it until it happened to me!!! So no need to come in and comment like 4 or 5 others felt the need to do with "lol this is old news u r teh dumbz hurr" I just wanted to bring this up to any new captivate owners like myself :]
If for some reason you have a hankering for some stock 2.1 from your captivate like I did for whatever random reason tonight......if you see an an OTA (Over The Air) Update for your captivate....DO NOT DO IT!!!!!! I say this because I did this tonight thinking that MAYBE this was some form of a 2.2 silent update push..or hell just some bugfixes would have been nice...so i went ahead and downloaded it, it prompted for a restart so it could flash it......and when it attempted to flash...it got about 50% and failed! Well at this point im thinking...awesome...ATT at its finest. So it said it was going to reboot back to android, I waited patiently...waited.....it hot about 3 minutes with phone in hand and screen off when i feel 2 *buzz* buzz* ! I think to myself HOORAY! its okay ....well i was wrong...that was my Captivates last words so to speak. I have tried plain powering on the phone....trying to go into recovery, trying to go into download mode even using a JIG to get back into download mode.....nothing the screen is blank completely, seems as if its not even getting power. :\ I am now the sad owner of a Captivate shaped door stop /facedesk .....Thankfully i yelled at the ATT people on the phone tonight enough to get a replacement phone lol! I am greatfull for this and felt as if i should pass this along to you guys until this gets sorted out. And no im not the only one thats had this problem
http://forums.wireless.att.com/t5/Samsung/Samsung-Captivate-Bricked/td-p/2008787/page/2
thats just one of many threads where this has happened. I dunno if this is new or old news...but Still i thought that i should put this out here.
Bryan
I think this is a known issue. Many phones had this happen with the release of JH7. It was provably just the JH7 update that got pushed to your phone. I wouldn't get my hopes up
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bradleyG said:
I think this is a known issue. Many phones had this happen with the release of JH7. It was provably just the JH7 update that got pushed to your phone. I wouldn't get my hopes up
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this wasnt a post about me getting my hopes up for a 2.2 update lol. This was a warning to those who dont about that fail update thats messing up a ton of phones. ;D
blackberry,iphone captivate, whatever. i have learned NEVER EVER do OTA update download it from phone authors site or whatever no matter what phone it is OTA is spelled BRICK....
I didn't received any ota from att but last year I forced update my phone and it works fine with me though without any issue. I think its the same ota update but I manually force to update my phone lol
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leo5111 said:
blackberry,iphone captivate, whatever. i have learned NEVER EVER do OTA update download it from phone authors site or whatever no matter what phone it is OTA is spelled BRICK....
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I'm of the assumption that a OTA bricks less than 0.1% of the devices that attempt an update. Granted that may be a large number if the number of devices are large..but not much of a chance to brick in the big picture
JH7 pushed to mine flawlessly when i got my phone last month, no issues at all.
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And no im not the only one thats had this problem
http://forums.wireless.att.com/t5/Samsung/Samsung-Captivate-Bricked/td-p/2008787/page/2
thats just one of many threads where this has happened. I dunno if this is new or old news...but Still i thought that i should put this out here.
Bryan
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That thread started in September, that's ancient in tech years.
bradleyG said:
I think this is a known issue. Many phones had this happen with the release of JH7. It was provably just the JH7 update that got pushed to your phone. I wouldn't get my hopes up
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+1 Still betting on St. Patty's Day release, office pool ya know.
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JH7 pushed to mine flawlessly when i got my phone last month, no issues at all.
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+100 Mine got the OTA fine and it was even rooted on edge service. Meh, who can tell why some did brick and others didn't. For sure I'll never do another OTA again. I love my 1007 build too much to return it.
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If for some reason you have a hankering for some stock 2.1 from your captivate like I did for whatever random reason tonight......if you see an an OTA (Over The Air) Update for your captivate....DO NOT DO IT!!!!!! I say this because I did this tonight thinking that MAYBE this was some form of a 2.2 silent update push..or hell just some bugfixes would have been nice...so i went ahead and downloaded it, it prompted for a restart so it could flash it......and when it attempted to flash...it got about 50% and failed! Well at this point im thinking...awesome...ATT at its finest. So it said it was going to reboot back to android, I waited patiently...waited.....it hot about 3 minutes with phone in hand and screen off when i feel 2 *buzz* buzz* ! I think to myself HOORAY! its okay ....well i was wrong...that was my Captivates last words so to speak. I have tried plain powering on the phone....trying to go into recovery, trying to go into download mode even using a JIG to get back into download mode.....nothing the screen is blank completely, seems as if its not even getting power. :\ I am now the sad owner of a Captivate shaped door stop /facedesk .....Thankfully i yelled at the ATT people on the phone tonight enough to get a replacement phone lol! I am greatfull for this and felt as if i should pass this along to you guys until this gets sorted out. And no im not the only one thats had this problem
http://forums.wireless.att.com/t5/Samsung/Samsung-Captivate-Bricked/td-p/2008787/page/2
thats just one of many threads where this has happened. I dunno if this is new or old news...but Still i thought that i should put this out here.
Bryan
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August called it wants its omg failed update back
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Razzman said:
JH7 pushed to mine flawlessly when i got my phone last month, no issues at all.
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Yup... This, but then my phone was new and unmodded at the time.
Thx for the info
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Thx for the info
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No problem
I know its easy to flame. But we were all new once.
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I know its easy to flame. But we were all new once.
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Join Date : March 2010
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cappysw10 said:
Join Date : March 2010
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July 2010 for you. You are new as well
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...pdate-to-allow-sideloading-on-select-devices/
Here come the bricks. Will you go back to stock just for a sideloading ota update when you can do this on any custom rom?
Caution swyping! Read at your own risk.
According to 99% of the threads here on XDA, if you even look at your Cappy the wrong way you run the risk of bricking it. lol
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Here come the bricks. Will you go back to stock just for a sideloading ota update when you can do this on any custom rom?
Caution swyping! Read at your own risk.
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According to 99% of the threads here on XDA, if you even look at your Cappy the wrong way you run the risk of bricking it. lol
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FALSE!
the ONLY WAY to brick your device perminantly is to have a bad bootloader flash.
OTA will not mess with custom roms.
OTA for this update will not touch bootloaders.
i dont even have this problem or ATT but even I say thank you for not being dicks anymore ATT!!
Will this be rolling out to Eclair users or just Froyo? And if you're on Eclair will this OTA include the Froyo upgrade? Anyone gotten this OTA yet?
umm...? if you receive OTA updates, you will already be OTA updatED to froyo. no?
so if you are still on eclair... umm.. wait!.. why would anyone still be on eclair?
oh... im scared of flash video and voice search... lol
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FALSE!
the ONLY WAY to brick your device perminantly is to have a bad bootloader flash.
OTA will not mess with custom roms.
OTA for this update will not touch bootloaders.
i dont even have this problem or ATT but even I say thank you for not being dicks anymore ATT!!
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I was (mostly) being facetious there. I've been flashing and modding my phone for a while now and it has been next to impossible to hard brick.
well dont say stuff that can confuse the noobs please.
Anyone actually receive the update yet? Anyone who did, straight stock, rooted, any other notable differences?
Can we be connected via Wifi? Need to be on data network?
I just tried to see if it was available to me... nothing at 1pm in Atlanta
TRusselo said:
FALSE!
the ONLY WAY to brick your device perminantly is to have a bad bootloader flash.
OTA will not mess with custom roms.
OTA for this update will not touch bootloaders.
i dont even have this problem or ATT but even I say thank you for not being dicks anymore ATT!!
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AT&T could f#@% up a wet dream. This could also be a plot to void your warranty. "You loaded an unauthorized app which caused your trouble, not our problem. Oh, btw, we'll sell you an Infuse cheap."
Caution swyping! Read at your own risk.
Can at least one post in any forum I've looked at site a source or show something more believable then one crappy blurry pic of a random computer screen. Heck why is it not even the whole screen? What is that a pic of, other then something somebody made up who was not even good enough to use photoshop?
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umm...? if you receive OTA updates, you will already be OTA updatED to froyo. no?
so if you are still on eclair... umm.. wait!.. why would anyone still be on eclair?
oh... im scared of flash video and voice search... lol
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Froyo was never rolled out OTA was it? Thought it was a Kies update.
I'm helping my extremely tech-illiterate friend with her Captivate and I want to figure out exactly what the details are of the various updates so that I don't scare her with anything
I'm from I9000-land and I flash every couple of days But I'm a bit unfamiliar with the Captivate scene.
No they tried an OTA but it ended up bricking alot of devices due to no 3 button support. To be honest if it is not a kies update I would never touch it. To many things to go wrong with OTA. But we will see. It will most likely be 2.2 update
my question is would it cause any issues on a rooted stock froyo ?
I was just on-line with the Technical Support chat via the AT&T site and I asked the rep if she could confirm that this OTA update was even available. And she replied that she doesn't even see this update for the Captivate on her system. Not sure what's true or not...
I hope it's here in time for free plants vs. zombies, May 31st! I don't want my wife to have to pay. (I already have the Amazon Appstore on mine, of course).
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I hope it's here in time for free plants vs. zombies, May 31st! I don't want my wife to have to pay. (I already have the Amazon Appstore on mine, of course).
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Just grab it from the Amazon website and then once AT&T allows sideloading you can install the appstore and then install the game on your phone.
At least ATT is going in the right direction, however, they need to update all their android phones to have hsupa also then having a stock phone is not so bad but I have been able to sideload with out using a computer since getting the phone enabling non market apps since the first day on my captivate *Launch date*. I have been using HSUPA ever since I started using Custom roms after the first froyo leak was released by DG.. So nothing to really effect me at all with this news, but it is good that any future phones released will have at least this enabled..
Cheers,
Charlie
dmnall said:
At least ATT is going in the right direction, however, they need to update all their android phones to have hsupa also then having a stock phone is not so bad but I have been able to sideload with out using a computer since getting the phone enabling non market apps since the first day on my captivate *Launch date*. I have been using HSUPA ever since I started using Custom roms after the first froyo leak was released by DG.. So nothing to really effect me at all with this news, but it is good that any future phones released will have at least this enabled..
Cheers,
Charlie
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+1
they may be late to the party but at least they deserve a lil love for moving in the right direction and at least in one regard listening to their customers. Now if they would just be smart enough to realize/admit charging for tethering is a scam and recognize the marketing bonanza "Free to Tether" would be.
TRusselo said:
FALSE!
the ONLY WAY to brick your device perminantly is to have a bad bootloader flash.
OTA will not mess with custom roms.
OTA for this update will not touch bootloaders.
i dont even have this problem or ATT but even I say thank you for not being dicks anymore ATT!!
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Don't tell that to other members of the Galaxy S family. OTA updates have occasionally done worse.
Is it normal that I still haven't gotten any OTA update? Im over in NY and went to stock ROM, went to stock recovery, and unrooted the phone. When is the OTA update rolling out until? Did it stop? I keep getting connection failed when manually looking for a software update.
And I don't want to manually use the LG tool because I am afraid of bricking the phone and don't want to go through the trouble of unbricking it.
I never got the OTA either and it was announced they stopped. The LG updating didn't brick my phone either.
I was actually wondering the same thing.
I called Tmo CS over a week ago, and he swore that I would be getting either an email, text or phone call, letting me know that I would be getting the update. He was nice, but I think he was new (didn't seem all that sharp). I did ask him about the rumor that they stopped the OTA, and he said that there was nothing about that in his system. He said, according to his system, it was still active. I asked him like 3x lol.
I have a refurb, so can't use the LG update tool. I know there is an alternate way of doing it, here on the forums, but I'm just too darn lazy lol. I will be calling Tmo again, in the next few days. If I get any useful info, I will pass it along to you.
I like my G2x, but honestly...between LG and Tmo, this has been one, huge clusterf**k. Thank God for the devs here, and around the net. They have done what LG and Tmo have continuously failed to do...made me a happy G2x owner!
ive had the same issue trying to do it by the phone so used LG tool and .... bricked my phone
i called Tmo and they exchanged my phone at no cost. the new one came with Gb preinstalled.
Why not just screw the OTA and grab one of the great custom, pre rooted roms. I did the OTA thing and had to re root. Ran the official update for two days and got tired of the thing. The custom roms spoil you.
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dalephil22 said:
Why not just screw the OTA and grab one of the great custom, pre rooted roms. I did the OTA thing and had to re root. Ran the official update for two days and got tired of the thing. The custom roms spoil you.
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I'm running EB 2.3.3, and love it. And thanks to EB, I also love my G2X again. But I would like to have the new baseband. And I can only get that from the update.
Really, what I think it comes down to (for me), is that I want T-Mobile to step the hell up, and stop jerking me around. How do you release an OTA...but only to SOME? I've just never heard of such a thing. And how do you release your "flagship" phone, then realize it's got issues, and then try to sweep all the owners of said "flagship" under the carpet...where you don't have to deal with them any more? It just makes me sad. I used to brag to all my friends, how much I loved T-Mobile.
dalephil22 said:
Why not just screw the OTA and grab one of the great custom, pre rooted roms. I did the OTA thing and had to re root. Ran the official update for two days and got tired of the thing. The custom roms spoil you.
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I kind of sympathize, but people recommend custom roms as a blanket solution to random issues way too often. Don't get me wrong, I love EB and CM, and xboarder's rom is fantastic, but the first two don't have a2dp and the latter won't still give you a new baseband. For people like me who have a non-functional gps and rely on a2dp, the official update is pretty critical.
Also, is there any evidence suggesting T-Mobile actually pulled the update? I think I know the post where this rumor started, and for what it's worth, a pretty knowledgeable rep told me about a week ago that the OTA is still rolling out, and will continue to do so through August. If the roll-out is slow, I don't think its too surprising considering what little space lg has to screw up again.
[EDIT] http://www.tmonews.com/2011/08/t-mo...ad-ota-rollout-manual-update-still-available/
heysharon said:
I kind of sympathize, but people recommend custom roms as a blanket solution to random issues way too often. Don't get me wrong, I love EB and CM, and xboarder's rom is fantastic, but the first two don't have a2dp and the latter won't still give you a new baseband. For people like me who have a non-functional gps and rely on a2dp, the official update is pretty critical.
Also, is there any evidence suggesting T-Mobile actually pulled the update? I think I know the post where this rumor started, and for what it's worth, a pretty knowledgeable rep told me about a week ago that the OTA is still rolling out, and will continue to do so through August. If the roll-out is slow, I don't think its too surprising considering what little space lg has to screw up again.
[EDIT] http://www.tmonews.com/2011/08/t-mo...ad-ota-rollout-manual-update-still-available/
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Well here it is posted on T-Mobile Support forum. The post says its created by T-Mobile so I'd say its legit, not a rumor.
http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-2362
G2X CM7
Actually, although EB 2.3.5 doesn't have A2DP, EB 2.3.3 does.
And the mms works SO much better than other ROMS I've tried.
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Yeah, the link I posted above was the same notice from a secondary source.
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Yeah, the link I posted above was the same notice from a secondary source.
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But you called it a rumor. Looks pretty official to me.
G2X CM7
I'am putting this thread out as a warning to all Atrix 2 users. Currently it seems that there is something wrong with the fkz patch to 2.3.5 from ICS. About 5 or 6 people have encountered this and after trying to flash through RSD Lite they have HARD BRICKED their phones. According to Jim, there might be something in the ROM (similar to the HK leaks) that causes a hard brick during an RSD flash. So this means we currently have no way to get back to stock. Jim and the other devs are looking into it.
SO UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE I STRONGLY ADVICE, FOR NOW, NOT TO DO ANYTHING THAT COULD BRICK YOUR PHONE, AS YOUR PHONE WILL STAY BRICKED.
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I'am putting this thread out as a warning to all Atrix 2 users. Currently it seems that there is something wrong with the fkz patch to 2.3.5 from ICS. About 5 or 6 people have encountered this and after trying to flash through RSD Lite they have HARD BRICKED their phones. According to Jim, there might be something in the ROM (similar to the HK leaks) that causes a hard brick during an RSD flash. So this means we currently have no way to get back to stock. Jim and the other devs are looking into it.
SO UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE I STRONGLY ADVICE, FOR NOW, NOT TO DO ANYTHING THAT COULD BRICK YOUR PHONE, AS YOUR PHONE WILL STAY BRICKED.
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You can get an advanced exchange by calling AT&T at the following number, if you have bricked using RSDlite:
1-800-801-1101
As usual, play dumb.
I don't plan I going back anyway...this leak blew everything out the water. I'll stick around on rooted stock till yall get this ball rolling. I have faith! Hahaha!
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Good warning though. Thanks man!
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DX2Trip said:
I don't plan I going back anyway...this leak blew everything out the water. I'll stick around on rooted stock till yall get this ball rolling. I have faith! Hahaha!
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You also cant get more leaks since cheesecake is not working with ICS at this moment... and you are also off the OTA train as well, since this is a leak, and the real ICS OTA will most likely have some more checks for system apps signatures.
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You can get an advanced exchange by calling AT&T at the following number, if you have bricked using RSDlite:
1-800-801-1101
As usual, play dumb.
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Will they figure out later what we did to the phone and decline the warranty? I am kind of worried.
I was thinking about walking in an att store for an exchange. Should I call instead?
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Will they figure out later what we did to the phone and decline the warranty? I am kind of worried.
I was thinking about walking in an att store for an exchange. Should I call instead?
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as long as it is totally bricked, you should be ok. I guess you could just shock the hell out of the motherboard, but I wouldn't, even though it would be fun. Car battery anyone?
qtqt710 said:
Will they figure out later what we did to the phone and decline the warranty? I am kind of worried.
I was thinking about walking in an att store for an exchange. Should I call instead?
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No they will not figure it out, and if they do you will already have your replacement. I have had 4 replacements now, due to my hacking this phone, and I have had an advenced replacement each time and never had an issue or been questioned once.
If you walk into a store, they will call this same number while you are there, and you will still have to be sent a replacement through 3 day delivery. Have a backup phone, even if you go grab a 10 dollar track phone and put your att sim in it.
Well this sucks. Thanks for the heads up on this. I was going to go back to 2.3.5 today because of the overclocking in this leak. The battery drain with it is a issue for me. I'll wait till a fix is available. Thanks again.
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You also cant get more leaks since cheesecake is not working with ICS at this moment... and you are also off the OTA train as well, since this is a leak, and the real ICS OTA will most likely have some more checks for system apps signatures.
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exactly, the problem is, once you go to the ics leak, you may never be able to get the real ics update. it may be possible, since you could keep this boot image and just flash the system, but there is no guarantee that would work and may even cause hard brick.
Keep in mind, this risk of hard brick is simply becaus moto decided to lock us down even more. they made an rsd flash not really possible. I think this same thing happend to the OG atrix people.
For some reason, Jim has had no problem getting back, but the rest of us have not been able to as of yet. we are looking into why that is and trying to find a way around it.
I do believe we will be able to find a way to get users now on ICS back to GB and back on the ota track, but even if not we may be able to at least make it so that they can unbrick from ics by flashing an ICS fxz like thing.
For those that have already bricked, there may not be a way back, but you can get an exchange.
For better or worse, one or two of our devs (not to be named here) hard bricked. while that means they will not be able to do much until they get replacements, they should be the best at figuring out how to get out of it if possible.
THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO TAKE FROM THIS WHOLE PROCESS IS THAT YOU CANNOT GET MAD AT THE DEVS FOR NOT WARNING YOU. NONE OF US SAW THIS COMING. THERE IS AN INHERENT RISK IN MODDING YOUR PHONE, AND THIS IS EXACTLY IT.
Good warning! This will save a lot of ppl.
Thanks for the heads up, will wait for further info. Really enjoying this leak so far though.
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I bought my Atrix 2 in the USA and I live in Aruba, is there anything I can do to use warranty or something? Mine is not an AT&T phone.
I don't seem to find an MB865 motherboard online for sale.
Fowitho from
So about this "replacement" under warranty. What is the warranty on our phones? And if we do end up bricking, we just take it to ATT retail store? What if we bought it from ebay?
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I bought my Atrix 2 in the USA and I live in Aruba, is there anything I can do to use warranty or something? Mine is not an AT&T phone.
I don't seem to find an MB865 motherboard online for sale.
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call or chat with moto, see if they will sell you one directly, but that might be expensive
Would this hard brick have to do with the generation of mb865? Because it work for Jim right? Maybe it fails with some models. There must be a constant in the hardbrick, maybe the affected members can give us some background info of their phones.
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Would this hard brick have to do with the generation of mb865? Because it work for Jim right? Maybe it fails with some models. There must be a constant in the hardbrick, maybe the affected members can give us some background info of their phones.
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So, just curious... are we screwed when the official ICS update comes out? I mean, I installed this on my man's phone last night and it is working great but I'm sure the final one is gonna have tons of fixes for various things... Wouldn't we be able to install bootstrap and flash a new official custom ICS rom when they come out? I've already rooted his phone on ICS. I'm just worried he's gonna end up mad with me now. Lol!
I'm confused as to why this would work fine for some people and hard brick others? The Fxz worked totally fine for me!
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So, just curious... are we screwed when the official ICS update comes out? I mean, I installed this on my man's phone last night and it is working great but I'm sure the final one is gonna have tons of fixes for various things... Wouldn't we be able to install bootstrap and flash a new official custom ICS rom when they come out? I've already rooted his phone on ICS. I'm just worried he's gonna end up mad with me now. Lol!
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I think when the devs find a way to get back to 2.3.5, 2.36 then we'll be able to take the OTA. No cheesecake support and cannot check for system updates. I'm sure these devs will figure it out for us...They're smart.
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I'm confused as to why this would work fine for some people and hard brick others? The Fxz worked totally fine for me!
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I think they're talkin about goin back to 2.3.5 or 2.3.6 from the ICS leak. Many have bricked I guess in doing so. So beware lol. If you on the leak, stay put.
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Folks,
There's been no word, no dates given or leaked about the ICS update we're supposed to be receiving. Samsung has said we're supposed to get the update, but T-Mobile has been quiet. Hell, Samsung just announced that the GS2 will be getting JB and they've been working on it. I don't know how well that translates to the T-Mobile variant of the GS2, but it's still something. All we need is a kernel and some camera drivers. Hell, we could probably get away without the camera drivers and mangle the old ones using a compatibility HAL..
It is starting to feel like T-Mobile is simply going to forget the blaze. I mean, they released an update already, why would they hurry on to the next update...
I think if we're going to get something for nothing, we'll have to make noise about it. Same way we got this forum. I think it's going to take bugging t-mobile on the forums and on their support lines. You people on contract have it worse. You bought a really powerful phone in the presence of ICS, some of you after the promise that it would receive the update. T-Mobile wouldn't suffer penalties if they didn't push it, but I imagine they'll respond to some social pressure enough not to simply forget the update.
Hell, it'd be nice if we could even just get a date.
I agree with you. At this point I'd be happy with some sort of update from Samsung/T-Mobile. Even if they just said "we're still working on it" and gave no ETA at least we'd know they hadn't forgotten about it.
If the Blaze Q whatever the hell they've decided to call it launches here in a few weeks with ICS and we still don't get the software I will be ticked.
If push comes to shove and they don't release it can the devs port it or JB from another galaxy phone?
Correct me if I'm wrong but my understating is that it can but would take a lot of work and all are holding off since ICS is supposed to be dropping at anytime. No sense in going thru all that work only to have an official release dropped on us.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S Blaze.
Lol bugging xda mods for a forum is NOT the same a bugging T-Mobile for eta.
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dr4stic said:
Folks,
There's been no word, no dates given or leaked about the ICS update we're supposed to be receiving. Samsung has said we're supposed to get the update, but T-Mobile has been quiet. Hell, Samsung just announced that the GS2 will be getting JB and they've been working on it. I don't know how well that translates to the T-Mobile variant of the GS2, but it's still something. All we need is a kernel and some camera drivers. Hell, we could probably get away without the camera drivers and mangle the old ones using a compatibility HAL..
It is starting to feel like T-Mobile is simply going to forget the blaze. I mean, they released an update already, why would they hurry on to the next update...
I think if we're going to get something for nothing, we'll have to make noise about it. Same way we got this forum. I think it's going to take bugging t-mobile on the forums and on their support lines. You people on contract have it worse. You bought a really powerful phone in the presence of ICS, some of you after the promise that it would receive the update. T-Mobile wouldn't suffer penalties if they didn't push it, but I imagine they'll respond to some social pressure enough not to simply forget the update.
Hell, it'd be nice if we could even just get a date.
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I completely agree with you. To be honest, I am already pissed off that they still havent released it. When I got this phone, T-Mobile promised I was going to get an ICS update in July. Yeah, so much for that. At the very least they could acknowledge our presence and let us know that they havent forgotten about us
Chitown021 said:
If push comes to shove and they don't release it can the devs port it or JB from another galaxy phone?
Correct me if I'm wrong but my understating is that it can but would take a lot of work and all are holding off since ICS is supposed to be dropping at anytime. No sense in going thru all that work only to have an official release dropped on us.
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The problem is the kernel and libraries specific to our hardware. We have to have a working kernel and libraries before the rest of the rom can come.
I'm not sure why people thought the Blaze Q would've been a good thing for us because unless the hardware was identically similar (which no one had any proof that it was), the releases for that phone would've been useless for ours. The fact that it's now coming with a 720p display (I would've stayed with my Blaze 4G if it had that), and a keyboard tells me that there will be PLENTY different between the phones.
Hardware-wise, the T769 (Blaze) is EXTREMELY similar to the T989 (T-Mo SGS2). How similar you ask? In the original kernel configuration file for the T769, the options are set to build it as a T769 AND T989. There are a few ifdefs that exist purely to stop little snippets of the T989 code from taking effect.
I worked on my own time to try and hack together a kernel from the released sources for the T989 for ICS. Porting specific code from the T769 sources to try to come up with something that worked. Here's the problem: it was stressful and thankless, and at the end of it all I had a kernel that would compile and not boot. No one collected anything to help me attempt this and I was getting tired of having a non-functioning phone that pissed me off. So I ordered me a Galaxy Nexus. I received 2 in a row with screen issues and ended up returning them. I figured I would return to my efforts with the blaze, but at that point I was used to the big phone with a beautiful 720p resolution... so I shelled out the money for a GS3.
I have thought of returning and making a second attempt to port the kernel, and have actually started setting up to do just that. I think I made some mistakes my first time around, so the second time might actually work. But it is A PAIN.
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Lol bugging xda mods for a forum is NOT the same a bugging T-Mobile for eta.
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You're right, it isn't... but it's the last time I saw this community bug an outside source for something, aside from buying a couple of guys a phone
Yeah, a 720p screen would have been nice... thanks for the detailed explanation.
I still find it comical that my old HD2 is on the verge of having a fully functional JB rom but my brand new Blaze is still stuck on GB.
Honestly if I could've afforded it I would have probably gone the Nexus or S3 route but given my limited funds and needing to cover two phones (wife needed an upgrade) I thought this was the best value ($30 upgrade cost at Target).
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Yes lets please do this.
T-Mobile hasn't updated their page for a month now, and that was for the Gingerbread update they released when they could have been making headway on ICS. I can't find out how to submit any new pages, but I can see two requests for an update that were a couple months old (click on the link, then read on the right side in section "Incoming Links") source = http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-4182
I went to Samsung's page about ICS updates, and rated it "very dissatisfied," informing them they should have supplied target Year and Quarter (i.e. 2012 Q3) at the minimum, but preferably a specific month. source = http://www.samsung.com/us/support/SupportOwnersFAQPopup.do?faq_id=FAQ00046726&fm_seq=49755
Let's continue to put pressure on these assholes, or they will sweep us under the bus while they pursue development of the Samsung Galaxy Supernova 4G Touchwiz Xtra 4.1.
Not to be a **** ... but what's the rush? What's wrong with the software on your phone now? I've had this Blaze for a couple months and I don't think I ever had a problem. I have ICS on a tablet and like it, but I never felt like I needed to light the torches and march on the castle because I didn't have the latest **** on my phone.
And honestly, if a delay of an update for a great phone that works perfectly fine is what keeps you up at night, just wow...
If I am missing something critical here that I should know about (phone will explode without ICS ROM installed, I have a higher risk of cancer if I don't have ICS on phone, etc) please let me know immediately. I have poster boards, Sharpies, and a willingness to assemble if needed.
Dr4stic
If you need want help, testing, anything.let me know of beer more than happy to help.. we need to get ics to this phone
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heavenlydemonic said:
Not to be a **** ... but what's the rush? What's wrong with the software on your phone now? I've had this Blaze for a couple months and I don't think I ever had a problem. I have ICS on a tablet and like it, but I never felt like I needed to light the torches and march on the castle because I didn't have the latest **** on my phone.
And honestly, if a delay of an update for a great phone that works perfectly fine is what keeps you up at night, just wow...
If I am missing something critical here that I should know about (phone will explode without ICS ROM installed, I have a higher risk of cancer if I don't have ICS on phone, etc) please let me know immediately. I have poster boards, Sharpies, and a willingness to assemble if needed.
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Nope, just a league of people whining because that makes things happen faster. There really is nothing more to it.
I'll be the first to admit I've become a bit jaded because of my experiences with T-Mobile / Samsung and the Samsung Vibrant.
I heard promises about updates to that phone - they even set dates and pushed them back and back and back and finally... nothing.
If anything I think the release of the Blaze Q is a strike against us because our phones are now the "out dated" version of the Blaze and why put development hours into an "old" device.
I'm happy that I have a fully functional phone as it is now (the Vibrant never really had a fully working GPS). An update would be nice but I wouldn't lose any sleep over it because honestly, you may just be setting yourself up for a lot of sleepless nights.
Oh, and on the Vibrant Forum they started a twitter campaign #NeverAgain demanding the promised upgrade or they would never use T-mobile or Samsung again. No one listened.
I know this all sounds cynical but I've seen this show before.
Edit to add: If memory serves correctly this was also the case with the Behold on T-mobile.
Hey i know im new here, but i was wondering if you guys have only attempted to port ics roms from the SII? Ive tried to do the same and only recieved a glittery sparkly screen. I was wondering if anyone tried other devices with similar hardware like the HTC amaze 4g. I tried to port that one and actually got the boot animation to pop up. I havent tried to do any logcats or anything because i have been to busy and i need my phone for work, but if anyone else has tried to port from other devices i would like to know so i can know where to start if i do decide to try again.
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Hey i know im new here, but i was wondering if you guys have only attempted to port ics roms from the SII? Ive tried to do the same and only recieved a glittery sparkly screen. I was wondering if anyone tried other devices with similar hardware like the HTC amaze 4g. I tried to port that one and actually got the boot animation to pop up. I havent tried to do any logcats or anything because i have been to busy and i need my phone for work, but if anyone else has tried to port from other devices i would like to know so i can know where to start if i do decide to try again.
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The reason you get a glittery screen when coming from roms that are like the SGS2 is because they use different display panel hardware than we do. I'd be careful porting things from different manufacturers unless you really know what you're doing. You'd hate to go and format some partitions you can't get back
heavenlydemonic said:
Not to be a **** ... but what's the rush? What's wrong with the software on your phone now? I've had this Blaze for a couple months and I don't think I ever had a problem.
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What happens when more "cool new apps" are released to the market that require Android 4.0 API's or better? Chrome immediately comes to mind, and there are others with many more on the way. What happens 4 months from now when you are only 6 months into your 2 year contract and you're wondering why you can't realistically run things on your phone that has 1 gig of ram and a dual-core 1.5ghz cpu?
And honestly, btw... I had a myTouch 4G running CM7 that felt miles faster than my blaze. The samsung crapware is not only bloated, but breaks the system in a number of places. You can see this in the fact that you can't have a scrollable wallpaper, or that the system doesn't understand all the loop points in ringtones that work properly in other phones. I can't tell you how frustrated I get by an unlock and/or answer mechanism that can't track my fingers in real time like something as simple as CM7 does.
And don't get me started on the underutilisation of the video hardware.
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Nope, just a league of people whining because that makes things happen faster. There really is nothing more to it.
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No, this phone was released with a promise. When it was released, ICS had been out for 6 months or more, and I'm sure the OEMs had access to the system and API's well before the official release. By the time ICS is released for our phones (IF it is released for our phones), JB will have been out for several months.
This is a matter of support and broken promises. I am NOT just whining. I was sold a phone with a promise of ICS and it has NOT been delivered, and at this point the time has gone beyond reasonable.
If we don't make noise now, it WILL be forgotten and you're going to end up with a phone outdated well before it's time.
dr4stic said:
The reason you get a glittery screen when coming from roms that are like the SGS2 is because they use different display panel hardware than we do. I'd be careful porting things from different manufacturers unless you really know what you're doing. You'd hate to go and format some partitions you can't get back
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Yeah the first time i tried to flash the rom nothing happened. ahah but then i went into the updater script changed some things and got it to flash. but since the hard ware is the same do you think i could use the display drivers from the amaze 4g and replace them in the SII rom and maybe it will work? well maybe i will have to do some logcats to see why the amaze rom isnt booting.
L7ChrisL7 said:
Yeah the first time i tried to flash the rom nothing happened. ahah but then i went into the updater script changed some things and got it to flash. but since the hard ware is the same do you think i could use the display drivers from the amaze 4g and replace them in the SII rom and maybe it will work? well maybe i will have to do some logcats to see why the amaze rom isnt booting.
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I doubt it. The drivers are baked into the kernel, they aren't modules or libraries. You'd have to get another compiled kernel working for our device, and you'll undoubtedly lose other drivers (camera, wifi come to mind). It's, of course, up to you to brick your own phone
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I doubt it. The drivers are baked into the kernel, they aren't modules or libraries. You'd have to get another compiled kernel working for our device, and you'll undoubtedly lose other drivers (camera, wifi come to mind). It's, of course, up to you to brick your own phone
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Well cant you decompile a kernel? or maybe if i get the source of both devices i can use the code to compile a new kernel... hmmm all stuff to try. but compiling a kernel takes a while i think ill update my PC first haha. Im not necessarily worried about the other drivers not working, i just want to make progress, or at least help us make a push in the right direction. Im sorry if im being too optimistic or noobish, i just want to learn what people have and havent tried, so i dont waste my time on what has already been done.
http://support.t-mobile.com/community/phones_data_devices/android/blaze_4g?view=discussions
^--Post a thread in the T-mobile discussion forums! The most recent thread so far is asking for a status update, and if you guys can make more posts/threads about it, maybe we'll get a response from someone
here's a thread we can vent at!
spartanerik said:
http://support.t-mobile.com/community/phones_data_devices/android/blaze_4g?view=discussions
^--Post a thread in the T-mobile discussion forums! The most recent thread so far is asking for a status update, and if you guys can make more posts/threads about it, maybe we'll get a response from someone
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I already did - rather I saw a post and have decided to bump it daily so it remains at the top.
http://support.t-mobile.com/thread/31124?tstart=0
Create a support account and let's let them know they need to get this done!!!
Every post on the support forum discussing the ICS update will get a post (and bump) from me everyday!
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I already did - rather I saw a post and have decided to bump it daily so it remains at the top.
http://support.t-mobile.com/thread/31124?tstart=0
Create a support account and let's let them know they need to get this done!!!
Every post on the support forum discussing the ICS update will get a post (and bump) from me everyday!
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http://support.t-mobile.com/people/tmo_erica
Try sending an email to [email protected] and ask (nicely) about a status update on the ICS update for our phone! I just sent one, and hopefully if we send enough we can get some traction