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Hopefully someone can answer this question for me. I was thinking about getting a WP7 device with no cell service at all. I was going to use it as a zune/xbox live device only. My question is will it work with no service and using only Wi-Fi? I know an Android phone can be used as a Wi-Fi only device but a Blackberry cannot. I can't find anything about WP7.
Thanks.
You will be able to use it for everything besides calling & sms (although you could use things like google voice for sms over data). Zune, games, marketplace, pictures/videos/podcasts ect will all work fine.
Cool, does it need a SIM to activate upon startup? or is there no activation?
I didn't put a sim in when I first got the phone, and was able to do everything just fine, although I imagine you will need to sign in with your live ID / hotmail account or whatever to use the zune marketplace.
The answer to your question is yes, you can use it as a Zune/XBox Live device only without cell service.
Regarding activation, there's not really an "activation" per se. The device just checks with Microsoft every time you try to use the Marketplace, Xbox Live, or any other live service that the device has a valid PVK. All WP7 devices have a PVK so there's no "activation" process... you just sign in to your Live ID using WiFi.
Awesome, that's what I wanted to hear.
Thanks guys.
Why would you want to do that? It is a phone so whats the point if not to use as a phone?
Xanaki said:
Why would you want to do that? It is a phone so whats the point if not to use as a phone?
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He might be on Sprint or Version, and really wants to use WP7
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flopez76 said:
He might be on Sprint or Version, and really wants to use WP7
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That is what my case it, and it is working great!
I have my Diamond that I carry near me when on the go, but mainly use my Focus for everything except calls. Doing this is saving me a lot of money (as I am a Sprint SERO user). But I am 99% sure that I will drop my Diamond once the Arrive comes out, even though I don't like the Arrive formfactor at all.
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Why would you want to do that? It is a phone so whats the point if not to use as a phone?
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I have an Incredible on Verizon and would never want to use anything but Android for my phone. However, I love Zune and Xbox Live. What I really want is a Zune device with the same Xbox integration WP7 has. I just don't think it's ever going to happen. So, the only option would be to get a WP7 phone and use it in place of that.
That's my current use case as well for AT&T Focus. Works fine so far except WP7 doesn't connect ah-hoc wifi and I can't sharing internet to it with my WM phone.
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That's my current use case as well for AT&T Focus. Works fine so far except WP7 doesn't connect ah-hoc wifi and I can't sharing internet to it with my WM phone.
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Odd. On my Diamond I enable the data sharing hotspot and my Focus is able to connect. I did it a few weeks ago on vacation. It saved me from having to bring my laptop.
don't have a sim in mine never had one in it it works fine, its activated and full of apps. Im gonna later get one of those simple talk ones to try out in it. If they come out with a skype for wp7 may never get one for it. I'm loving it.
I went with the HTC Surround. I figured the extra 8gb and speaker would be nice over the Focus for what I am going to use it for. Thanks again everyone.
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Odd. On my Diamond I enable the data sharing hotspot and my Focus is able to connect. I did it a few weeks ago on vacation. It saved me from having to bring my laptop.
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Opps. Just found it's working for me now. Maybe last time I didn't test enough. I am happy to have the powerful WM and fun WP7 working together now
I'm using a WP7 device without service too.
Is there anything similar to talkatone for WP7?
Also, when using GoVoice for Google Voice, it seems that every time the device is asleep, wifi turns off. So then I don't get text messages through Google Voice. Is there a way to leave wifi on?
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I'm using a WP7 device without service too.
Is there anything similar to talkatone for WP7?
Also, when using GoVoice for Google Voice, it seems that every time the device is asleep, wifi turns off. So then I don't get text messages through Google Voice. Is there a way to leave wifi on?
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I believe wi-fi stays on only if you're connected to AC power.
Hi all,
I ws reading in a thread here that you can get a samsung nexus s car dock to automatically startup car mode once I plug it into the car dock.
Was wondering
1- where do I purchase some nfc chips.
2- how do I set this up?
Going to pickup a samsung car dock by end of week.
Thanks
Heeter
Car dock mode does not automatically start when put into the dock, this is because the S 4g does not have the magnetic sensor on the back of it.
To get the car dock to activate you will need to download this app:
NFC Task Launcher
and buy some NFC tags from any of these sites:
tagstand dot com
tagage dot net
Then just put the sticker on the back of the dock and configure a profile in the NFC task launcher app to open up car dock when you get close to that NFC sticker. You will not have to worry about your battery draining by having the phone next to the sticker for long periods of time because the phone will only read the tag once. It will only read it again if you move the phone away from the tag then close to it again, or if you turn off the screen and turn it back on.
Go to youtube and search: "NFC Task Launcher 2.4 - Demo"
EDIT: I DONT HAVE MORE THAN 8 POSTS SO I CANT POST LINKS YET, SORRY
Thanks for your reply.
I have an at&t 3g nexus s.
Do I still need the app? I think that don't because my NS already reads tags.
Thanks for those links.
Heeter
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I have a T-Mobile NS, and the Samsung car dock doesn't launch the car home app for me. I don't think it's just an issue with the 4g.
If you have Bluetooth in your car stereo you can have that connection start car home though, that's what I do.
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Do I still need the app? I think that don't because my NS already reads tags.
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Yes, NFC Task Launcher programs the tags to do what you want them to do
Heeter said:
Thanks for your reply.
I have an at&t 3g nexus s.
Do I still need the app? I think that don't because my NS already reads tags.
Thanks for those links.
Heeter
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Yes - only because there's no built in functionality for doing things like manipulating the hardware radios or starting an application directly from an NFC tag.
There are a few demo videos here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=980741 as well as a specific car dock demo (at the bottom of the first post).
You can download the app for free and if it's something you like / use it's up in the Market as well as a paid app. I do keep the free app updated though and it is not limited.
As far as purchasing NFC tags I've collected quite a few resources you can use here: https://sites.google.com/site/nfctasklauncher/nfc-tags
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Yes - only because there's no built in functionality for doing things like manipulating the hardware radios or starting an application directly from an NFC tag.
There are a few demo videos here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=980741 as well as a specific car dock demo (at the bottom of the first post).
You can download the app for free and if it's something you like / use it's up in the Market as well as a paid app. I do keep the free app updated though and it is not limited.
As far as purchasing NFC tags I've collected quite a few resources you can use here: https://sites.google.com/site/nfctasklauncher/nfc-tags
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The OEM car dock is in stock: http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/ECS-V1A3BEGSTA
Otherwise there's a thread under accessories that lists some cheaper "universal" alternatives.
Great posts, krohnjw!!
Awesome explanation and breakdown, I bought the NFC Task Launcher app!
Thanks guys,
I was heading over to Bestbuy this weekend to purchase a dock, but will get it from samsung instead.
Heeter
Heeter said:
Great posts, krohnjw!!
Awesome explanation and breakdown, I bought the NFC Task Launcher app!
Thanks guys,
I was heading over to Bestbuy this weekend to purchase a dock, but will get it from samsung instead.
Heeter
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Outstanding
I like the OEM Dock - the use of a stiff rubber for the corners make it a solid fit without scratching the phone. It's a bit pricey compared to a universal dock, but it fits the phone well.
Ugh!!
Sorry for re-firing up an old post.
Looks like Samsung Canada cant get me a car dock. Best buy don't have them either. I can't order from USA Samsung site either. Can't order from Samsung 1-800 USA either.
Wow!
Oh well
Heeter
Heeter said:
Ugh!!
Sorry for re-firing up an old post.
Looks like Samsung Canada cant get me a car dock. Best buy don't have them either. I can't order from USA Samsung site either. Can't order from Samsung 1-800 USA either.
Wow!
Oh well
Heeter
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There are services that will give a US address to ship to and then post it world wide for you when they receive it. I don't know what they charge for this, but people were using this to get the Nexus One a while back.
Alternatively, if you really want to get the Samsung Dock I'd be willing to pm you my address and send it your way USPS if you're willing to cover the shipping on it . This, understandably, requires quite a bit of faith that I won't rip you off, but I figured I'd offer if you really want the OEM dock.
Edit: I found one: http://www.oneusaaddress.com/
I've never used a service like this and can't vouch for them, but other seemingly have used them with success.
I just stumbled on an app called "Tablet Talk" and I love it so far...
I've been looking for something to use to send and received SMS from my TF and this app seems to fill the bill nicely.
It's fast; just as fast as sending messages on my phone itself. The interface is nice, and connnecting is a breeze...
Just letting everyone know in case they are in the market for an app like this.
yes great app. the dev is here also
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1206798
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I use it all the time. It has really been getting a workout since football season started. My son lives across the country and we have been wearing out the airwaves discussing the talent or lack thereof!
I particularly like it's ability to connect both via Bluetooth and Wireless.
Does this use Push for syncing messages?
I'm currently using SyncSMS, which does the job at a bare minimum of whats acceptable. Currently it does not support Push, and relies on preset sync-intervals or manual. Also, even tho it claims to use ~400kb storage, it hugs an entire 38mb (!!!). Quite critical on my quite crappy x8 phone.
If this is in any way smaller, and use Push, I'm all over it.
Edit: Gave it a quick spin (15 minutes refund policy.....). Seemed to be running constantly with icon in status bar (no Push?). Relied on IP address to connect, making it tedious to connect when changing WiFi networks. Shame I did not get a proper chance to see if having this app running 24/7 had any major impact on battery life. Un-installed/refunded for now.
I've found google voice good enough.
chatch15117 said:
I've found google voice good enough.
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I agree, Google voice is very good and free.
Unrelated, I love your rainbow fart picture.
bleached45 said:
I agree, Google voice is very good and free.
Unrelated, I love your rainbow fart picture.
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Which is great when you want someone to use two different numbers to txt you through.
I kinda keep my cell and text separate from my GV account, so this app may be what I need.
Yes GV is great but that's beside the point of this thread
I bought the app Tablet talk and am loving it. Simple, easy, and so far not a single issue. It was well worth the $2.99 I paid for it. I probably would have paid up to $4.99 for it above that I would have gone with one of the other offerings.
I leave my tablet and SGS III connected via blue tooth and leave the wifi just for internet usage. The small size of the app is really a good thing as well, since I only have the 16GB edition.
I would highly recommend the app to anyone looking to send SMS from their tablet, using their current phone number. For me it keeps confusion down with my contacts.
Yeah, I use Tablet Talk a little.. ahem.. I have over 6000 text messages in the messaging thread to my Fiancée.. And I use it ALL the time. When I have to use my phone to send a text I start to get the hives. It is by far the app that I use the most on my tablet. I have kind of a low self esteem and she is a HOT Russian (previous model / previous gymnast) and I need to make sure she thinks about me every 5 minutes or so..BRB.... Yeah.. she's still there. ahem.
Anyway.. Really is a great app. When there was an issue with MMS which I found right away after an update the dev responded right away and sent me code to fix it the next day and quickly updated it for everyone.
I of course just got her a TF700 for Christmas and I need to somehow get something that works with her Iphone now. It's too bad TT doesn't have an iphone client.. That of course would be the bomb.
Great app.
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Yes, love it.
Very good app. You can sync messages through by connecting through bluetooth "less battery then wifi", if they are on the same wifi network "aka home", or if you are on your phones wifi hotspot "aka using your phone for mobile internet"
You can also sync all messages from your phone to your tablet so you arnt out of your conversation. You can sync anytime. Dark theme to save battery.
It is relly nice to text on from your number walking around your house while your phone is charging
I'm now too using tablet talk mine came with a phone dialer too for Bluetooth usage tho
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I tried reading the NFC chip on my US passport card, but the phone doesn't pick anything up. I've tried two different apps from the Play store and I turned NFC on in the settings, but it doesn't do anything. Has anybody got it working? Have any tips?
Thanks!
Billy
I tried Android beam by touch my One X with my GS2 and both reacted with vibration and sound. So, yes, NFC works.
JeepFreak said:
I tried reading the NFC chip on my US passport card, but the phone doesn't pick anything up. I've tried two different apps from the Play store and I turned NFC on in the settings, but it doesn't do anything. Has anybody got it working? Have any tips?
Thanks!
Billy
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I'm assuming NFC based data communication isn't universal. That'd be pretty messed up if someone could walk around with a phone and run into people in a heavy tourist area and have access to their personal information.
Android Beam has to be enabled to both devices (or the equivalent on whichever other device) in order to pass information back an forth. I've tested it with MiFARE 1k tags and the HOX works just fine.
There's a cool app that can read standard & non-standard NFC tags like the ones in credit cards and ones that stores use for loss prevention. It's called NFC ReTag on the Market (errr.. Play Store..w/e).
Others like NFC Reader/Writer by NXP are designed to work only with NFC tags that are NFC Forum compliant or of certain/most MiFARE types.
What's the range on the reader? I thought I read 10cm (4 inches) somewhere? I wonder if it'd be possible to get a wrist band with an nfc chip in it that would unlock the phone when you're holding it in your hand, but then require a pass-code if the wrist band isn't present. Could be a silicon band like people get for the various causes they support, or even integrated into a watch band (for the few people who still wear those!)
Another possibility would be a ring, that would definitely be in range of the reader I'd imagine), though I'm not big on rings myself...
I can definitely put my credit card up against it and it'll read it. It took a few seconds though.
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I'm assuming NFC based data communication isn't universal. That'd be pretty messed up if someone could walk around with a phone and run into people in a heavy tourist area and have access to their personal information.
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Well, the range isn't that good, but, uh... yeah! It can happen! http://youtu.be/vmajlKJlT3U
I should have clarified that I wasn't trying to communicate between two phones. I want to see what info my cards are emitting!
Thanks,
Billy
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I can definitely put my credit card up against it and it'll read it. It took a few seconds though.
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What part of the phone do you put the card up to?
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Billy
mesasone said:
What's the range on the reader? I thought I read 10cm (4 inches) somewhere? I wonder if it'd be possible to get a wrist band with an nfc chip in it that would unlock the phone when you're holding it in your hand, but then require a pass-code if the wrist band isn't present. Could be a silicon band like people get for the various causes they support, or even integrated into a watch band (for the few people who still wear those!)
Another possibility would be a ring, that would definitely be in range of the reader I'd imagine), though I'm not big on rings myself...
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Hey, it works for doggie doors! I like the idea!
Billy
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What part of the phone do you put the card up to?
Thanks!
Billy
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The middle of the back seems to be fine.
I use it with nfc task launcher, use a switch in there to turn stuff on when I get home and off when I go out, very useful
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JeepFreak said:
I tried reading the NFC chip on my US passport card, but the phone doesn't pick anything up. I've tried two different apps from the Play store and I turned NFC on in the settings, but it doesn't do anything. Has anybody got it working? Have any tips?
Thanks!
Billy
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Never tested NFC with an US passport ... but I think someone mentioned that the passport musst be open ... due to some shielding metal foil within the cover ...
SN4K3B1T3 said:
I use it with nfc task launcher, use a switch in there to turn stuff on when I get home and off when I go out, very useful
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I tried NFC Task Launcher and it's definitely a nice app, but with the switches you have to tap the tag twice. And the tags can only be read when the phone is unlocked. Hoping a chef can fix this in a custom rom.
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Never tested NFC with an US passport ... but I think someone mentioned that the passport musst be open ... due to some shielding metal foil within the cover ...
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Mine'sa card, not a book.
Billy
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Mine'sa card, not a book.
Billy
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ah ok, ....same shielding metal foil within the "protective sleeve" ;-)
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ah ok, ....same shielding metal foil within the "protective sleeve" ;-)
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Yeah, good point. I don't have my sleeve anymore though. I've tried a half dozen apps with no luck. I'm beginning to think my NFC module is broken though. I even tried the wife's passport. Any advice?
TIA,
Billy
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Yeah, good point. I don't have my sleeve anymore though. I've tried a half dozen apps with no luck. I'm beginning to think my NFC module is broken though. I even tried the wife's passport. Any advice?
TIA,
Billy
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Well, I got a glimmer of hope. I was able to read a tag in my library book. That's the only thing it's read so far, but I don't think my credit cards have chips afterall. Not sure what the problem is with the passport though =\
Billy
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I'm assuming NFC based data communication isn't universal. That'd be pretty messed up if someone could walk around with a phone and run into people in a heavy tourist area and have access to their personal information.
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To use Android Beam, you have to have the app open from which you wish to share information. Bring the phones together and tap the screen. There's no way you could ninja someone's data without them knowing, as they have to push it to you, rather than you pulling it from them.
EDIT: Oh, and yes NFC works fine for me, at least to push contacts via AndroidBeam.
I would like to get a cheap phone for just listening to music and using running apps. I do not need to use it for phone calls, sms or anything, just wifi and gps.
I was leaning towards the Nexus one, S, but am open to other things. I am in Canada, so I don't know if getting US based carrier specific phones would work or not.
I would prefer to pay less than $100
Any recommendations would be appreciated.
cderrick14 said:
I would like to get a cheap phone for just listening to music and using running apps. I do not need to use it for phone calls, sms or anything, just wifi and gps.
I was leaning towards the Nexus one, S, but am open to other things. I am in Canada, so I don't know if getting US based carrier specific phones would work or not.
I would prefer to pay less than $100
Any recommendations would be appreciated.
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What's the point of caring about if it's specifically on a network? Lol your using it only for GPS and WiFi. By the way how are you gonna get the GPS to work without data?
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Gps doesn't need data to work
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Gps doesn't need data to work
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What about Google maps?
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That's a good point, is GPS part of data/sim or is it part of the phone regardless of sim cards?
My primary app I use for running is run keeper which utilizes GPS. If I can't do GPS then I wouldn't bother getting a second phone. I already have a great phone, but I really want to avoid using it for running.
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GPS always works no matter if you have a sim card in your phone or not. It is not dependent of it. You can try it yourself take your sim card out of your phone and turn on Gps. You will see it works just fine. I have a galaxy tab myself and it also has Gps support even without a sim card in it.
So to answer your question; it's part of the phone regardless of using a sim card or not.
About Google maps, it will be able to show your location and even give you a route description. The only thing that won't work without a data connection is navigation.
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cderrick14 said:
I would like to get a cheap phone for just listening to music and using running apps. I do not need to use it for phone calls, sms or anything, just wifi and gps.
I was leaning towards the Nexus one, S, but am open to other things. I am in Canada, so I don't know if getting US based carrier specific phones would work or not.
I would prefer to pay less than $100
Any recommendations would be appreciated.
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I say try E-Bay, and pick a seller with a good return policy.... I recently went through a couple phones, one of which was $50 and easy to repair.
joelvn said:
GPS always works no matter if you have a sim card in your phone or not. It is not dependent of it. You can try it yourself take your sim card out of your phone and turn on Gps. You will see it works just fine. I have a galaxy tab myself and it also has Gps support even without a sim card in it.
So to answer your question; it's part of the phone regardless of using a sim card or not.
About Google maps, it will be able to show your location and even give you a route description. The only thing that won't work without a data connection is navigation.
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Navigation is what I was trying to pin point lol. Though as long as your around a WiFi band or even use your current phone as a hotspot host, then any phone should be good for you! The nexus s is still kicking but if I was you I would at least aim for something with a 1ghz snapdragon processor, and 4.0 inches.
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Navigation is what I was trying to pin point lol. Though as long as your around a WiFi band or even use your current phone as a hotspot host, then any phone should be good for you! The nexus s is still kicking but if I was you I would at least aim for something with a 1ghz snapdragon processor, and 4.0 inches.
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I see, but for those running apps there is no need for any navigation whatsoever. They just check how much you ran and so on, and to check that a Gps connection is enough.
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joelvn said:
GPS always works no matter if you have a sim card in your phone or not. It is not dependent of it. You can try it yourself take your sim card out of your phone and turn on Gps. You will see it works just fine. I have a galaxy tab myself and it also has Gps support even without a sim card in it.
So to answer your question; it's part of the phone regardless of using a sim card or not.
About Google maps, it will be able to show your location and even give you a route description. The only thing that won't work without a data connection is navigation.
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To further explain, you can get apps like this free one: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.navfree.android.OSM.USA that will let you download the maps when you are connected to Wi-Fi, and then use them without a sim or carrier connectivity.. Doing this, you can turn any Android with a working GPS into a personal GPS unit. I occasionally buy them off e-bay for $20-30, install that app, and give them away to people who suck at driving...
I'm looking for something on the smallish side. I legitimately will only use it for running and listening music. Something that is easy to hold in your hand is the ideal.
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I'm looking for something on the smallish side. I legitimately will only use it for running and listening music. Something that is easy to hold in your hand is the ideal.
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Probably an HTC one v because of the beats and I'm pretty sure you might can find it on eBay for a good price. Beats + acid= sweet love in your ears lol.
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I'm looking for something on the smallish side. I legitimately will only use it for running and listening music. Something that is easy to hold in your hand is the ideal.
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I don't exactly know how expensive a galaxy Y is as of now.(I bought it for 100 euros a year ago) But that might just be the solution for you. It is a small phone, easy on your hands and the Gps works great.
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galaxy player
That is exactly what I am now looking for. Thank you
Shryvone21 said:
Probably an HTC one v because of the beats and I'm pretty sure you might can find it on eBay for a good price. Beats + acid= sweet love in your ears lol.
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