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Diagnostic Tool

Has anyone produced a diagnostic tool yet that allows me to interrogate my phone from my laptop to get a memory table of all apps (not user data texts contacts etc) running on the phone to clean up unused apps without having to go into tthe phone menu all the time. If there is a cost for the app, please let me know.
Thank you
SIMBian

What do you mean, to do remote task killing etc?
Check out the Visual Studio remote tools. They are available free in the earlier versions.
V

vijay555 said:
What do you mean, to do remote task killing etc?
Check out the Visual Studio remote tools. They are available free in the earlier versions.
V
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Yes I have four devices and two were mine and two given to me for work. Two given to me are fully of apps that I do not want but I want to find out about them before I delete. I know its lazy, but to be able to have
to delete these apps from a single list on my laptop rather than having to do delete each time in the device. Also I can manage my devices better so I can use one for SIM/USIM development work and the business and keep my Wife's and my personal one seperate from business.
Thanks I will google now to find the program.
Many thanks vijay555. If there any SIM/USIM questions I can answer for you just ask.
SIMBian

Actually I might be able to save you some googling:
Just go to www.microsoft.com/downloads and search there.
Unfortunately if I remember correctly, you cannot install remote tools without the studio it self (maybe I am wrong).
Also if you are already working with some IDE for windows mobile like eVC check out 'Remote process viewer' in the tools menu.
Also look for a user called itsme on this form. He created a remote task manager (don't remember if it's just to show tasks or kill them as well).
Check the WiKi for itsmeutils or something like that.

levenum said:
Actually I might be able to save you some googling:
Just go to www.microsoft.com/downloads and search there.
Unfortunately if I remember correctly, you cannot install remote tools without the studio it self (maybe I am wrong).
Also if you are already working with some IDE for windows mobile like eVC check out 'Remote process viewer' in the tools menu.
Also look for a user called itsme on this form. He created a remote task manager (don't remember if it's just to show tasks or kill them as well).
Check the WiKi for itsmeutils or something like that.
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Thanks "levenum" I have taken a note of what you have said and hope I can return the same help to you sometime.
It could be when I've done the research and got the tools that I may have to develop an app. Perhaps I can post here (like I have seen others do) and see if you would be willing to beta test a work in progress.
When complete would be happy to share the final work with the forum.
Thanks again
SIMBian

We need a iphone like "Installer" for WM machine

Don't get me wrong, I love my WM phone, especially it has so many software + easier to program. However, I found the softwares are not organized and you need to know:
1. where to find the software
2. how to download the software
3. how to install the software from the desktop to the WM device
in order to use a piece of WM software(Not to mentions the serial number, registration number and so)
Where as the iphone "installer", only needed a few click and the software is automationally installed and ready to work. Which allow the Not so hardcore computer user to enjoy software written for iphone. For the Non jailbreaked iphone / ipod touch, iTunes is doing the software distribution work but nothing similar for the WM device.

thats because apple "control" their platform sooo much more
wm everybody can do it the way the like or feel is best
if people pref to do stuff one way it's up to them
and if customors hate that way they can turn to other options
which does it the way they like
imho wanting the general platform to dictate a way to do such things
maybe easier for some
but removes liberties from many more

no, don't get me wrong, I don't want to see an "iTunes" for the WM, that's why I said installer. Anyone can add their software to the installer software list, u know?

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no, don't get me wrong, I don't want to see an "iTunes" for the WM, that's why I said installer. Anyone can add their software to the installer software list, u know?
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Do you mean some sort of web-based list of applications that you can access via ppc to download applications to install?

iTunes
iTunes may sound like a bad idea, but then again it would be nice to be able to download most games/programs etc. from one place/program, instead of searching all over the 'net for good links.
--oh, and yes I've been registered since 2006 and this IS my first post. Guess I've more to learn than to teach

That sound's like a really good idea. It be it's own application (like the Facebook application, just a portal to a website), and have applications categorized by type, number of downloads, new release, etc. Each application could also have reviews, description, screenshots, latest release, bug fixes, etc. I could host it on my server if needed.

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Do you mean some sort of web-based list of applications that you can access via ppc to download applications to install?
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Well, it could be a native WM app that download a list of APP Name, Description and Location from the web or it could be a website. However if it is a website, it will be just a duplication of Pocketgear and Handango.

So you want an app that will supply you with all the list of apps available?? Maybe just me, but that sounds lazy, and there are far too many out there, where, as mentioned above, most are through Apple direct. The best thing is Handago's In-Hand, allows you to browse and purchase some software from there site.

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So you want an app that will supply you with all the list of apps available?? Maybe just me, but that sounds lazy, and there are far too many out there, where, as mentioned above, most are through Apple direct. The best thing is Handago's In-Hand, allows you to browse and purchase some software from there site.
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Two reasons for me not to vote for Handago or alike:
1. slow > in order to find the app that I needed, I need to go though all the pages (and ad.) which takes all the time and Date limit (not everybody has unlimited data plan)
2. PIE is not powerful enough to load these APP catalog website, so user still have to download through the desktop computer and go through all the steps that I described on the first post.
we only need to download some WM app, not the ad. or other unless graphics on the website, right?

I wanna be the guy! ...uhm, I mean... I wanna be a android developer!

So yeah... this hasn't been easy.
I'm not gonna spend time getting into my coding history... but I wanna expand to Android. Usually I'm able to just get myself to a point in which I can start writing code, and then from thereon I can learn whatever I need to learn... but that's based on languages where I have a compiler, or can even do most of my coding from notepad+/PFE... I won't say I'm used to things being simple, but getting into a new coding language as at least been generally direct enough so that I can dive nose first into some good 'ol T&E.
I keep hearing Eclipse being mentioned, but honestly the furthest I get before I'm confused is the Android SDK Manager (and it's megaton of downloads).
I just want to get to the point where I can start messing with values, strings, functions and see how much different it'll be from what I'm used to when I try to make key inputs trigger functions.

While I am not able to code myself, (I made the Hello World and that was it) I do have experience with the Android SDK due to some debugging I have needed to do.
Eclipse keeps being mentioned because it's the officially preferred IDE for Android, as it counts with an official plugin.
The sequence is the following.
1) Install the SDK.
2) Install the necessary modules. You should know what you're going to program in advance so that you Install the relevant ones.
3) Install Eclipse.
4) Install the ADT plugin for Eclipse (instructions can be found in the site, but it's basically adding a repository and installing its contents).
5) Code!

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While I am not able to code myself, (I made the Hello World and that was it) I do have experience with the Android SDK due to some debugging I have needed to do.
Eclipse keeps being mentioned because it's the officially preferred IDE for Android, as it counts with an official plugin.
The sequence is the following.
1) Install the SDK.
2) Install the necessary modules. You should know what you're going to program in advance so that you Install the relevant ones.
3) Install Eclipse.
4) Install the ADT plugin for Eclipse (instructions can be found in the site, but it's basically adding a repository and installing its contents).
5) Code!
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What he said. This is the only way to get started. And buy a book, Amazon has some great ones that will get you started on what you need to do from start to finish. The coding is almost the easy part, but theres a lot more involved in making it "work" with Android. Eclipse/Android SDK is the only way to do that. Just launch the SDK and let it do its thing for a couple hours and you're good!

[Q] How to develop an C# Wp7 app that accesses the registry and change the same

I want to make a new App to change settings for my phone.
How do I create a C # App in WP7 that makes changes to the registry and files WIndows Phone?

You need a lot of stuff:
- installed Visual Studio + latest WP7 SDK;
- interop-unlocked phone;
- knowledge in C# and WP7 programming.
If you meet the above requirements, read (attentively) this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1569832

And if you are building Windows Phone 7 apps, you qualify as a startup and can get Visual Studio for free from Microsoft:
https://www.microsoft.com/bizspark/Startup/Signup.aspx
This gets you a free MSDN Ultimate subscription for three years.

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You need a lot of stuff:
- installed Visual Studio + latest WP7 SDK;
- interop-unlocked phone;
- knowledge in C# and WP7 programming.
If you meet the above requirements, read (attentively) this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1569832
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I am an average programmer, I have these tools and capabilities.
My intention is to discover how to access and edit the registry through my applications.
wp7roottools is a good choice, but would like to know how to do it from scratch to the end user does not need to have the application installed.
kenikh said:
And if you are building Windows Phone 7 apps, you qualify as a startup and can get Visual Studio for free from Microsoft:
https://www.microsoft.com/bizspark/Startup/Signup.aspx
This gets you a free MSDN Ultimate subscription for three years.
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Microsoft does not help much in this case

Well, you'll need to know how to write native code (use Visual Studio 2008 and the WinMo 6.x SDKs or the CE 6 or CE 7 platform builders). Write a native DLL with a COM class that exposes the functionality you want. You can then create an instance of the COM class from C# and use that via the ComBridge API. You can read more on doing this in a guide posted by Heathcliff74 on the dev&hacking sub-forum; search "guide developers native mango" and you should find it.
However, that will only give you the APIs to access the registry, it won't actually give you the permissions. You'll have read access to only part of the registry, and no write access at all. If you want higher permissions, you have four options:
1) Write an app for full-unlocked ROMs only. Full-unlock ROMs run all apps with max permissions.
2) Write an app that uses one of the existing "root" hacks that elevate an app to TCB (for example, require that people use WP7 Root Tools with your app).
3) Write an app that uses ID_CAP_INTEROPSERVICES and the OEM drivers present on most phones to do high-privilege operations. This is how registry editors and such worked before Root Tools, but requires substantial work to support various different OEM devices and firmware versions, and some device+firmware combinations aren't supported at all right now.
4) Find your own new elevation-of-privilege vulnerability, hack up an exploit for it, and use that. For example, when I created the HtcRoot project, WP7 Root Tools wasn't yet available for my phone.

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Well, you'll need to know how to write native code (use Visual Studio 2008 and the WinMo 6.x SDKs or the CE 6 or CE 7 platform builders). Write a native DLL with a COM class that exposes the functionality you want. You can then create an instance of the COM class from C# and use that via the ComBridge API. You can read more on doing this in a guide posted by Heathcliff74 on the dev&hacking sub-forum; search "guide developers native mango" and you should find it.
However, that will only give you the APIs to access the registry, it won't actually give you the permissions. You'll have read access to only part of the registry, and no write access at all. If you want higher permissions, you have four options:
1) Write an app for full-unlocked ROMs only. Full-unlock ROMs run all apps with max permissions.
2) Write an app that uses one of the existing "root" hacks that elevate an app to TCB (for example, require that people use WP7 Root Tools with your app).
3) Write an app that uses ID_CAP_INTEROPSERVICES and the OEM drivers present on most phones to do high-privilege operations. This is how registry editors and such worked before Root Tools, but requires substantial work to support various different OEM devices and firmware versions, and some device+firmware combinations aren't supported at all right now.
4) Find your own new elevation-of-privilege vulnerability, hack up an exploit for it, and use that. For example, when I created the HtcRoot project, WP7 Root Tools wasn't yet available for my phone.
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Thanks to previous answers, this really seems to get bad to be useful.
So need to develop a DLL with COM classes (for Windows Mobile 6.5) that has the functions I want and then invokes it. I carefully read the topics mentioned.
Answers to your bookmarks:
Option 1) My first application is intended for the HTC HD2 fullUnlock, I believe not having problems with permissions.
Option 2) Use third party tools like WP7RootTools is not very advantageous for the moment
Option 3) seems to be the best option, but as the knowledge needed to collect it?
Option 4) I think I still do not have sufficient skills for this option.
Very grateful for your help this is really helpful and appreciated.

[Q] How XAPs are deployed to Emulator and Device

Hello.
I'd like to automate XAP deployment from my development environment to WP emulators running for testing. WP emulators are running as Hyper-V VMs and they have a valid IP. As much as I understand communications between MS tools like Visual Studio 2011 Beta and WP are TCP/IP based. So, I wonder what is hiding behind the "Deploy" button? Some PowerShell command? Anything else? For starting I'd like to upload the XAP and install it on the Emulator and eventually the device.
Thanks.

There are third-party deployer apps, so what you want is entirely possible. You'd have to look at the source for them, though, and then write your own that listened on a network socket for the file that it is supposed to install.

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There are third-party deployer apps, so what you want is entirely possible. You'd have to look at the source for them, though, and then write your own that listened on a network socket for the file that it is supposed to install.
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Due to security restrictions I still cannot post to developers forums, so I'll try to ask here:
are these applications like Tom XAP installer or Multi-XAP installer Open Source, or what? They are distributed in a compiled form so how I can ask their developers for the source code?

There are any number of programs that can decompile managed assemblies (JustDecompile, for example, but there are a bunch and many are free). It's nice to ask for source (and some of the apps are probably open-source; you can look for the tag [SOURCE] or similar in the thread title) but unless they obfuscated the assembly for some reason, decompiling well enough to understand what it does is easy.