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Nexus s problems

What's up xda forums.had a couple of concerns with my phone. my nexus s stock running 2.3.2 rooted and unlocked. Here are some of my issues so far
While driving and on the phone, sometimes the call drops after making a nasty sound and stays stuck on the hanging up screen and I can't make or receive a call till I reboot.
When turning the phone off sometimes and turning back on, the screen hangs for a while and 4 seconds later ill feel the phone vibrate 2-3 times and go back to normal in which its not lagging.
When opening my gallery the phone takes about 5 seconds to show me my thumbnails of my photos.it does this every time. Also when I take pictures it takes about 10 seconds to see the photo I took. When talking on the phone I drop alot of.calls or I hear the person sound like a chipmunk lol.
Is my phone messed up? Is the stock rom messed up? I flashed a stock image thru clockwork after I tried a alpha cm7build. Was it corrupted or is my phone a pos. My nexus one never gave me this many problems.
Any help would be great
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No one has had these problems?

thejedimex said:
No one has had these problems?
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Well, yeah, most of your problems have been mentioned by someone here at one point or another. Some of them have workarounds, some are waiting for fixes from Google.
I think if you try a few searches with the search button in this and the General section you'll find already lengthy discussions on most of those issues.

These problems started after you flashed back to stock?
Try clearing caches and reflash I guess.
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Hostile89 said:
These problems started after you flashed back to stock?
Try clearing caches and reflash I guess.
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Maybe even a fastboot oem unlock again to force a TOTAL WIPE of the phone. Be careful, sdcard contents are wiped too.

distortedloop said:
Well, yeah, most of your problems have been mentioned by someone here at one point or another. Some of them have workarounds, some are waiting for fixes from Google.
I think if you try a few searches with the search button in this and the General section you'll find already lengthy discussions on most of those issues.
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The only major issue I've had only happened once, and it happened for the first time yesterday: Without me touching the back button it started flashing and going back through the app I was in at great speed. It was rather frustrating but its only ever happened the one time.

What some people forget is that the Nexus One also had a lot of problems apon release,
All was ironed out by google
JD

distortedloop said:
Maybe even a fastboot oem unlock again to force a TOTAL WIPE of the phone. Be careful, sdcard contents are wiped too.
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Im gonna try this right now. thanks for your help

I was able to make one of the problems repeat.. seems cause of the case i have everytime i hit the power button my thumb seems to hold down the volume rocker right in the middle. i then unlock the phone while its still tying to catch up from something.. cause 4 seconds later it will vibrate 2-3 times and the phone is back to reg speed.. there something wrong with my rom or can ya make this happen too?

Yup I get most of these issues too, it really spoils the experience. Next time I'm not gonna get a google phone straight upon release, it's really not worth the hassle. Also does anyone have problems with the wifi? Mine is horribly weak its a joke, struggles with wifi from my bedroom which my laptop and old Iphone 2g handled fine
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There's definitely a major bug somewhere in OS

My phone no longer reboots itself or freezes. It hasn't now for over a week but what tends to happen is after about 2 days of use it starts to lag and slow down like crazy. After I reboot it, its again super fast and smooth.
Its almost like there's a memory leak somewhere that is causing this and maybe certain apps cause it more than others? All I know is this has happened twice now and a reboot makes a huge difference.
Also and not sure if this is related but my GPS stops working until I reboot too. I think it's some app I have on the phone that's hitting a bug in the OS and causing this.
Maybe if it gets bad enough it causes reboots like people have been having?
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funny, i just realized this tonight as well. I had some probs w/ tmo service and had to do a reboot after talking to customer service. Yesterday was my last reboot. It was flying afterwards. Very noticeable.

Follow this procedure here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1051616
This patch addresses that issue. I experienced the same thing but when I did this I no longer get it. Hope it helps!

Bunch of people are now posting that they see issues after patching so I'm not sure I'm willing to try that yet.
pettigrew95 said:
Follow this procedure here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1051616
This patch addresses that issue. I experienced the same thing but when I did this I no longer get it. Hope it helps!
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mobilehavoc said:
Also and not sure if this is related but my GPS stops working until I reboot too. I think it's some app I have on the phone that's hitting a bug in the OS and causing this.
Maybe if it gets bad enough it causes reboots like people have been having?
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I had the same thing happen last night...GPS would not start no matter what I tried until I rebooted the phone then it worked fine. I agree, there certainly gremlins in this software.
Here's hoping something is coming soon (see my post about the new software update message!).

I wonder if the bug is affecting phones differently. My only problem is my dam wifi. Will not connect under any setting. When it does connect little to no data can be sent. Some else posted this also.
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pettigrew95 said:
Follow this procedure here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1051616
This patch addresses that issue. I experienced the same thing but when I did this I no longer get it. Hope it helps!
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mobilehavoc said:
Bunch of people are now posting that they see issues after patching so I'm not sure I'm willing to try that yet.
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Agreed.. I've been following that thread.. The first clue was "some apps came up missing". Then a confirmation, and then another... and then I bookmarked the thread and decided to have some patience.

Yes good idea me too!. You'll also notice a bunch of people saying it made no difference. So not even worth the risk IMHO!

This just happened again to me. Did you have anything installed that checks location frequently? Shopkick maybe? Have you uninstalled any T-Mobile apps? I'm wondering what causes this since I don't remember having this problem before.
bluemoon737 said:
I had the same thing happen last night...GPS would not start no matter what I tried until I rebooted the phone then it worked fine. I agree, there certainly gremlins in this software.
Here's hoping something is coming soon (see my post about the new software update message!).
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pettigrew95 said:
Follow this procedure here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1051616
This patch addresses that issue. I experienced the same thing but when I did this I no longer get it. Hope it helps!
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you say follow this Procedure.. what procedure?
there's just a file to download from the OP.

mobilehavoc said:
This just happened again to me. Did you have anything installed that checks location frequently? Shopkick maybe? Have you uninstalled any T-Mobile apps? I'm wondering what causes this since I don't remember having this problem before.
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The only thing I'm aware of is Weatherbug, but it's been installed almost since I got the phone (I have it set to track my location).

Um...that patch doesn't patch any kernel files therefore it won't do anything about crashing.

Yeah I noticed this yesterday, navigation refused to start, and things were being klunky, a nice reboot fixed it up!
I notice after a few hours/days things like the add widget menu start lagging pretty bad.

All the more reason to hope hope hope for CM7 with the quickness.

Do you still have Telenav installed? I removed it so not sure if maybe somehow it's related.
I have Shopkick installed, Weatherbug Elite, Beautiful Widgets which I all believe use network location services although none use GPS except Shopkick.
My guess is that the network location API has a bug and crashes so that's why GPS stops working because when it stops working, the GPS can still be turned off and on and apps report it's on but they don't get any response.
I don't use GPS often enough to know how long I've been having this problem. Apart from this, the slowness over time is the main thing I've noticed.

I think weatherbug might be causing weird issues. Ever since I updated a few days ago, when I reboot my g2x and my nexus, I'll get a little box stating it cannot update my location. Altough it does update my location, lol! My GPS will still turn on though!
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mobilehavoc said:
Do you still have Telenav installed? I removed it so not sure if maybe somehow it's related.
I have Shopkick installed, Weatherbug Elite, Beautiful Widgets which I all believe use network location services although none use GPS except Shopkick.
My guess is that the network location API has a bug and crashes so that's why GPS stops working because when it stops working, the GPS can still be turned off and on and apps report it's on but they don't get any response.
I don't use GPS often enough to know how long I've been having this problem. Apart from this, the slowness over time is the main thing I've noticed.
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I have not rooted as I didn't want the restoration hassle if I decided not to stick with this phone so yes, I do still have Telenav installed. My Weatherbug (free version) does turn GPS on to follow me.
After last nights GPS failure to start, the phone gave me fits late morning/early afternoon. I had no bars with an "x" and yet had a data connection (without 2G or 4G shown) at very slow speeds. Rebooted several times and had other similar odd behaviors.
At this point, I am giving serious consideration to ditching the phone before my 20 day trial is up and holding out for the SGS2. My TW Bionix running Vibrant works flawlessly with the single exception of flaky GPS. The big problem with SGS2 is the 4.3" screen...I really don't want a phone bigger than this so perhaps the MT4G might be a better choice.
Decisions...decisions...

OK, now the re-boots are starting. My GPS once again failed to start tonight so I tried to toggle it and it wouldn't turn off/on. I also normally leave bluetooth on all the time and I tried turning it off as well and it wouldn't turn off. It finally did turn off and when trying to turn GPS and bluetooth back on the phone slowed WAY down then re-booted.

GPS Not Working / Random Restarting enough to send it back?

Has anybody else sent their G2X back because of random restarts and the GPS not working correctly? I haven't had any of the other issues some of you guys are having and my battery life seems pretty good. I can't complain about that.
But I often use the GPS on my phone for work. It was great on my Nexus One and never failed me. I tried to use it on my G2X the other day and it was horrible. It took minutes to load and finally when it seemed like it was going to work, it was real lousy. It wouldn't keep up with where I was driving, so the directions were real sloppy and inaccurate.
As far as the random restarts, that might be normal..? It's a smartphone which is like a mini computer, so I think restarts might be fairly normal. I seen a restart the other day and I seen 2 more today.
My question is do these seem like software issues? If so, i'm willing to wait for an update to fix these things. I like the phone a lot and i'm lucky to have no screen or battery issues. So I don't wanna risk sending it back only to have those issues.

My GPS is rock solid. It is slow to start sometimes but my old phone was the Vibrant and ANYYHING is better than that. Don't have any restart issues. You should do an audit of the apps you have on your phone.
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What exactly do you mean by an audit of my apps? Do you really think any of the other apps are messing with the GPS?
I'm debating doing a format. I'm not sure whether or not it would help anything.

We have the same issue, everything (dialy used apps) works except for the GPS. I can't even see GPS icon even after toggle ON and running GPS toolbox. Though, sometimes if I am lucky, after Rom Manager Fix Permissions and restart it works. But only if am lucky.
Maybe it is a software issue or permissions issue, but I am hoping that this will be fixed with the long awaited update.
Sent from my Gingerbread powered Nokia 3210.

I was speaking of apps in regards to the reboots. My GPS icon doesn't show sometimes also. A quick reboot solves that for me. There's a thread about fixing the GPS. You should try the steps in there.
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Return it. Phone should never reboot. Android runs on Linux which is designed to be up 24/7 365. GPS should lock quickly.

kangxi said:
I was speaking of apps in regards to the reboots. My GPS icon doesn't show sometimes also. A quick reboot solves that for me. There's a thread about fixing the GPS. You should try the steps in there.
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Tried it already mate. But, no success.
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jose makalolot said:
Sent from my Calculator with Android.
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Lol.......

I called about my GPS and reboot problems and they are sending me a replacement g2x. The tech rep did say that he would check about their exchange program eligibility where I can exchange for an equal or better phone under warrranty. He said there were no phones that were of equal value currently released. He told me if I call tomorrow when the sensation comes out that it may be an option. For now I'm going with another g2x but to answer the original question, GPS and revolts is a good enough reason to send it back.
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My GPS locks up almost daily now. The GPS icon doesnt show... I think it's an app issue (gas buddy) that's not compatible... A reboot fixes the gps for about a day.
kangxi said:
I was speaking of apps in regards to the reboots. My GPS icon doesn't show sometimes also. A quick reboot solves that for me. There's a thread about fixing the GPS. You should try the steps in there.
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I have problems with GPS also, it's horrible at times. Tonight it took two reboots before it worked, and even then it was flaky at best. My Nexus One was great prior to 2.3, at which point it was unreliable also, but not like this.
Basically I have to reboot daily or else GPS won't work when I want it. And all I run on it that uses GPS is Maps, My Tracks and when I'm attempting to fix it, GPS Status, which sometimes just comes up as a blank screen. Sometimes it takes two reboots to get GPS to work, which is just odd, but I've seen that twice.
Also, I have witnessed at least 5 spontaneous reboots, and I've had the phone just a few weeks.

Cyberdan3 said:
He said there were no phones that were of equal value currently released.
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The retail for the G2x is $499 and that matches the Samsung Galaxy S 4G. Would've matched the G2, but reports have it as discontinued. The Sensation is 10% more expensive.

He was talking features also. Dual core should match up with another dual core.
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Cyberdan3 said:
He was talking features also. Dual core should match up with another dual core.
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But he said equal "value", not equal "features. The value of the two are not the same.

[Q] Why does my G2x keep shutting off randomly?

I've only had the phone for less than 24 hours and I'm ready to send it back. Someone help me out please.
My phone keeps shutting down randomly. I rooted, installed CWM (Yes the nvFlash), Installed Evils ROM from the dev section.
The phone shut down right before bed last night and it must have done it sometime through the night because I had to restart it in the morning. Today it turned off a couple of times and my logical thought was that it was the ROM.
I switched over to EaglesBlood 1.0.5 hoping it would be a little more stable. It took a little longer, but it still shut completely off.
Nevermind the battery life I just want it to stay on. I'm no genius, but I'm pretty decent with ADB and terminal if I can fix it. Let me know if I'm overlooking something.

this phone has several issues. check the rest of the forums. what you are experiencing is one of them and it only gets worse from here.....

unclemik9 said:
this phone has several issues. check the rest of the forums. what you are experiencing is one of them and it only gets worse from here.....
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I've read most of the issues. I was hoping there was a way to fix it. I talked to a customer service rep at the Tmo store today. He said there is supposed to be an update released by the end of the month.
I rooted so I never have to worry about releases. Usually Cyanogen and his team are all over this kind of stuff. (Cue G1)
I really wanna know why it's doing it and how to fix it.

You by chance have an app that flashes the home buttons as a notification? When I deleted that, my random shut offs dropped...
Is it shut down? Or is the screen black? I get the occasional black screen... if you hit the power button the screen gets a little brighter... if it's that you can just do a hard reboot, power+volume up
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Still not working

Okay I think this will help out. I'm been trying different ROM's for a couple of weeks now in an effort to get this to stop this is what's happening.
1. The phone shuts off completely and you need to pull the battery out to get it to turn on with the power button.
2. The phone turns off during a call or during use and starts up again with the boot animation.
3. Shuts off while charging in the middle of the night or while on the car charger.
What app needs deleted or removed? How do I do it? I'd like to post the solution up for anyone having this same problem.
BobbyDukes707 said:
You by chance have an app that flashes the home buttons as a notification? When I deleted that, my random shut offs dropped...
Is it shut down? Or is the screen black? I get the occasional black screen... if you hit the power button the screen gets a little brighter... if it's that you can just do a hard reboot, power+volume up
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Download this Rom. It is based off of the GB update from LG and lets you keep root. It may solve your problem. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1158513

pdxmatts said:
Download this Rom. It is based off of the GB update from LG and lets you keep root. It may solve your problem. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1158513
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I'm flashing this ROM now. I'll try running it for a few days and see if I get any improvements.
I hit the thanks button. I'll post what happens.

I am getting the same problem with my G2x randomly and whiles its charging and I have tried roms CM7 Nightly, EaglesBlood, Trigger, and MIUI but all start shutting off sooner or later. Tell me if that rom fixes yours.
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It's a hardware problem unfortuantely

strung said:
It's a hardware problem unfortuantely
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So should I send for another phone? Or try fixing this one?

strung said:
It's a hardware problem unfortuantely
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not necessarily. never had a single reboot until the new baseband and rom combo I am running now. now i seem to lock up every time i take the phone off a full charge in the morning.

Another company to add to the "I will never buy a phone from this manufacturer again" category.

Kevc44485 said:
Another company to add to the "I will never buy a phone from this manufacturer again" category.
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If you added a company for every time they had a flawed product, you'd end up making your own electronics.
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Slim Bean - SGS4G Q&A

Let the festivities begin!

Thanks bro
btw peoples kyndig tested for me so thank him too for his efforts

So only 2G works and only speaker for calls or did I read it wrong? Either way, can't wait to try it out. Thanks you guys!
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This will be awesome, I got a Note 2, so I gave my SGS4G to my son to play games on, no data needed. How's the wifi and battery performance? Any theming options yet? Are these addons compatible?

StonedYoda said:
So only 2G works and only speaker for calls or did I read it wrong? Either way, can't wait to try it out. Thanks you guys!
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Yep you are correct sir follow instructions in OP
ReelFiles said:
This will be awesome, I got a Note 2, so I gave my SGS4G to my son to play games on, no data needed. How's the wifi and battery performance? Any theming options yet? Are these addons compatible?
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No wifi yet

erikmm said:
...No wifi yet
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No problem, I copied titanium from my other phone and restored all his games. Had no idea it had theme choser, gonna go play with some of my themes now
How do I get TWRP on this? I tried the ICS one from the TWRP Installer thread but that didn't work. Installing via Goo Manager is not an option without a network (No compatible Sim).

Just fyi the data even using 2g is giving me random reboots. Otherwise this Rom is freaking fast and smooth. I can't wait till it gains enough stability to run as a daily driver.
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gregcapps said:
Just fyi the data even using 2g is giving me random reboots. Otherwise this Rom is freaking fast and smooth. I can't wait till it gains enough stability to run as a daily driver.
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I had some reboots without ever inserting a SIM, mostly while restoring apps from SD via titanium pro, so it might not be just data related.

Thanks Erik!
Can't wait until the bugs are worked out to use it as a daily.

Open as per OP request, Thank You.

Awesome update on 4g data, Erikmm! I get to experience JB now. I can hold on to the S3 upgrade for another year. Slim JB on our phone is almost as snappy as JB on S3. If we can fix the wifi, it would be perfecto.
P.s. The small font and icons actually made the phone's screen looked bigger. Feels like I am having an S3.
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gizmoscoop said:
Awesome update on 4g data, Erikmm! I get to experience JB now. I can hold on to the S3 upgrade for another year. Slim JB on our phone is almost as snappy as JB on S3. If we can fix the wifi, it would be perfecto.
P.s. The small font and icons actually made the phone's screen looks bigger. Feels like I am having an S3.
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Lol yea I like the smaller density on the sgs4g and that's good the s3 is not that cool lol
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sorry for the really stupid questions, but since the 4g reboot issue has been fixed, do we need to follow the same directions about checking the airplane mode, etc? or just install and run as normal. also, im assuming this is mtd?

hawklet00 said:
sorry for the really stupid questions, but since the 4g reboot issue has been fixed, do we need to follow the same directions about checking the airplane mode, etc? or just install and run as normal. also, im assuming this is mtd?
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Not a stupid question at all I'll fix op tomorrow but no more airplane mode just flash ans enjoy lol
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erikmm said:
Not a stupid question at all I'll fix op tomorrow but no more airplane mode just flash ans enjoy lol
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sweet! i will have to pick this phone back up and use it again.....

Here's something that may go for dev-bug, but...
I wiped my phone and applied the SlimBean R2 installer as well as the SlimGApps. Full factory reset, all that fun. So hopefully no remnants causing these symptoms:
Yesterday I ran Waze (driving/mapping app) on my SlimBean for ~45 minutes without ever getting a GPS lock. Rebooted, tried again for another 30 minutes. No GPS connection.
The GPS Status app says that it's not seeing any satellites at all... so apparently my GPS isn't even trying, as my phone with ICS normally sees 10-12 satellites here. After testing with GPS Status, reflashed SlimBean, reflashed SlimGApps, checked GPS Status again. Still not a single satellite seen. Recovery, flashed YAGF2.zip (Yet Another GPS Fix 2), system, GPS Status, still nothing.
I should probably note that the cell location has been working... Waze was giving guesses as to where I was currently located based on my cell towers. Obviously Wifi location isn't working without Wifi, so the question I have is... are other people using JB actually having GPS satellite locks, or is this another current JB bug? I ask because OP doesn't mention GPS issues, though people reported reboots when GPS tries to take effect. The only GPS thing I did before was making sure that Internal GPS was actually set as the GPS source in Location services, since that wasn't checked... Internal GPS was the only option, but it wasn't checked.
If you need logs or something, let me know what you'd like. Thanks.

Theraze said:
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Our phone is infamous for its horrible GPS, try this GPS patch and see what happens, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1963915

Already had that downloaded. Let's give it a shot, and...
Reboot to recovery, flashing agps.patch.google.build.nossl.twrp.v3.1.zip, reboot to system, GPS Status sees...
Nothing. Still just "Looking for GPS location..." with no Compass (heading stays at 0 degrees) or satellites seen.
One more thing. I know it's been noted that the phone audio only works through the speaker, but music also only comes out through the speaker. At least, plugging into the headphone jack didn't make MortPlayer Audio Books actually come out through the car's sound system, it was still coming out of the speaker.

Theraze said:
Already had that downloaded. Let's give it a shot, and...
Reboot to recovery, flashing agps.patch.google.build.nossl.twrp.v3.1.zip, reboot to system, GPS Status sees...
Nothing. Still just "Looking for GPS location..." with no Compass (heading stays at 0 degrees) or satellites seen.
One more thing. I know it's been noted that the phone audio only works through the speaker, but music also only comes out through the speaker. At least, plugging into the headphone jack didn't make MortPlayer Audio Books actually come out through the car's sound system, it was still coming out of the speaker.
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Read the notes if it doesn't work, let the GPS stay on. Try other methods on the notes.

Note 4:
This works with ANY ROM unless the ROM has aGPS and/or GPS disabled in the code. This happens with CMx nightlies and some betas! I cannot fix this, neither can you.
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So... as I'm asking, has anyone actually confirmed that GPS (not location services, but GPS itself) is enabled and working? The build.prop tweak that it suggests (Note 13) doesn't appear to apply, since neither this nor ICS (AOKPm6r5) have the ro.ril.def.agps.mode forced.
Also, note that as I said before, I've let GPS Status or Waze run for going on an hour without it seeing a single satellite... GPS is NOT ENABLED on my JB. Just like Wifi, except it's marked as 'on'. I'm wondering if this is my phone hating life and needing to offer up some logs, or if this is a standard issue. -_-
That being said, when I turned off GPS and just used cell location, I had my first random reboot on second location services call (Yelp's location check). After it finished rebooting, told it to start trying to use GPS again and it went back to just guessing wildly as to my location based on cell towers without ever using GPS (GPS Status never showed in the notification bar, no little coda to signify GPS lock attempt), but also without the reboots, so that was nice.