[Q] Why am I responsible for shipping charges for Dust under screen repair?? - HTC Sensation

A decent amount of dust has showed up in a spot about 1/2 inch from the very top at the edge top right corner of the screen. Since I purchased the phone at Walmart they said talk to TMO or HTC. I called TMO and they told me dust under the screen doesn't seem to qualify as "manufacture defects" so they wont exchange it for me there, they said call HTC. I call HTC and they fill me in on all the details associated with the repair process etc.. My question is this: why am I responsible for shipping charges on a manufacture defect? On top of that, if they don't deem unwarrantable then I am charged a $39 or less triage fee.... Why am I also gonna be out of a phone for the next 6-10 days without compensation?
I just don't understand the logic behind this. Anyone have any advice, or explanation?
Thanks,
Joseph

mesajoejoe said:
A decent amount of dust has showed up in a spot about 1/2 inch from the very top at the edge top right corner of the screen. Since I purchased the phone at Walmart they said talk to TMO or HTC. I called TMO and they told me dust under the screen doesn't seem to qualify as "manufacture defects" so they wont exchange it for me there, they said call HTC. I call HTC and they fill me in on all the details associated with the repair process etc.. My question is this: why am I responsible for shipping charges on a manufacture defect? On top of that, if they don't deem unwarrantable then I am charged a $39 or less triage fee.... Why am I also gonna be out of a phone for the next 6-10 days without compensation?
I just don't understand the logic behind this. Anyone have any advice, or explanation?
Thanks,
Joseph
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No dust under my screen I'm sure shipping will not cost much...be sure to get INSURANCE. Have you tried simply exchanging the device for another one at Walmart?

nccu_eagles said:
No dust under my screen I'm sure shipping will not cost much...be sure to get INSURANCE. Have you tried simply exchanging the device for another one at Walmart?
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I am sure shipping wont be costly, its just I don't see how or why I should have to pay for it. And Walmart after 15 days from purchase wont touch it, or so they are telling me?
If I go in and complain, while still being respectful or course, do you think Walmart or TMO will exchange it?

mesajoejoe said:
I am sure shipping wont be costly, its just I don't see how or why I should have to pay for it. I have no need for Insurance, but I do see how it is helpful for others. This is a warranty issue not a cracked screen or something I caused. And Walmart after 15 days from purchase wont touch it, or so they are telling me?
If I go in and complain, while still being respectful or course, do you think Walmart or TMO will exchange it?
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I meant shipping insurance just in case USPS/FEDEX/UPS loses the package. I live in Charlotte, NC and there are a bunch of Walmart's here. I would clean up the phone really good and try to return it even if it's for store credit and then drive to another Walmart and purchase a new Sensation with the store credit. Did you buy it full retail price or did you do a contract? If you did a contract then you are out of luck with store credit because it wouldn't be enough to purchase a new phone. Otherwise you could call TMO and ask for a warranty exchange and tell them the phone won't power on. They will ship you a new unit and you would just mail back the current unit. I have done a warranty exchange a million times.

Yeah I realized what you meant by insurance after I responded. I bought it on contract, and its past Walmart's 14-day return policy so they might not take to that so much lol. I have done a few in the past with TMO over the phone without any problems and a few in-store as well, as I have always purchased them through the store. I just might have to try TMO over the phone again and get them to send me one like you suggested. Thanks for your advice I really appreciate it.

mesajoejoe said:
Yeah I realized what you meant by insurance after I responded. I bought it on contract, and its past Walmart's 14-day return policy so they might not take to that so much lol. I have done a few in the past with TMO over the phone without any problems and a few in-store as well, as I have always purchased them through the store. I just might have to try TMO over the phone again and get them to send me one like you suggested. Thanks for your advice I really appreciate it.
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That's the best way to get them to respond quick TELL THEM THE DEVICE WON'T POWER ON. They will then ask you to verify that the sticker under the battery is still white and then they will ship you a phone. Make sure you call from a phone different from your Sensation i.e a land line LOL and you will be ok.

That's weird. When the Nexus One's had issues with dust getting under the screen the problem was fixed for free assuming you hadn't rooted the device.
I know I personally had a rooted device get dust, cost 100 if I recall to have it fixed. Happened again in a week and they didn't make me pay for shipping or anything to send it back again.

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Returned My 2ND G2X , Now Im Stuck With Blackberry :-(

Im so depressed lol. Blackberry sucks. I remember when i use to love their phones. Now that i have been long exposed to android i dont know what to do without them. Here's my story: First G2X blew out on me during a call and i returned it. The rep in the store couldnt turn it on and try to find signs of water damage which there werent any. Second G2X had serious bleeding in the upper corner. I tried to disregard it but im very anal about my devices especially when i buy them outright. I returned it and got credit on my account that supposedly cant be touched unless i notify tmobile. My friend works for tmobile and told me a new shipment is coming in a little after Mothers day. So ill try my luck again and hopefully get a good unit. I dont really suggest anyone buy one via craigslist or ebay but as you can see most sellers are not accepting returns. Wish me luck guys.
i work at a tmobile store and we get shipments every business day. no deliveries saturday/sunday
dont know why they wouldn't be getting anything til after mothers day. plus we only get notifications 4 days ahead of time of what the shipment contains.
charlieb620 said:
Im so depressed lol. Blackberry sucks. I remember when i use to love their phones. Now that i have been long exposed to android i dont know what to do without them. Here's my story: First G2X blew out on me during a call and i returned it. The rep in the store couldnt turn it on and try to find signs of water damage which there werent any. Second G2X had serious bleeding in the upper corner. I tried to disregard it but im very anal about my devices especially when i buy them outright. I returned it and got credit on my account that supposedly cant be touched unless i notify tmobile. My friend works for tmobile and told me a new shipment is coming in a little after Mothers day. So ill try my luck again and hopefully get a good unit. I dont really suggest anyone buy one via craigslist or ebay but as you can see most sellers are not accepting returns. Wish me luck guys.
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Did you use a debit card or cc? They dont give you money back? I'm thinking about returning mine... They give you store credit back?
was this a corporate owned location?
we always give full refunds within 14 days of purchase for contract extensions and 30 days of purchase for full-price. if it was through a third party retailer it would make much more sense as to why they only give you credit.
it was a tmobile seller not a tmobile retailer. they said i can use the credit to go to a actual tmobile store to purchase it. im waiting because i dont want any problems. i know all cell phones have issues but i would rather have a issue that can be fixed by a soft mod or something.
You should wait for the Samsung Galaxy S2. The super amoled plus screen should be awesome. I miss my Samsung Vibrant screen, but I'm happy with my LG G2X overall.
grenademasta said:
You should wait for the Samsung Galaxy S2. The super amoled plus screen should be awesome. I miss my Samsung Vibrant screen, but I'm happy with my LG G2X overall.
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Samsung amoled only has better blacks.... g2x has amazing color and screen... better them mt4g way better then hd7, evo is out of conversation .... super amoled is nice but those phones feel cheap and touch wiz is ridiculous
although
samsung said no more locked bootloader
still
for now
I say g2x and sensation are best choices
sent from my G2X with no regrets
suhailtheboss said:
was this a corporate owned location?
we always give full refunds within 14 days of purchase for contract extensions and 30 days of purchase for full-price. if it was through a third party retailer it would make much more sense as to why they only give you credit.
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is that true about the 30 days for full price purchasers? or is that california only? i bought mine online from tmo. i never heard of this policy. can more than one person confirm this please?
Just got G2X for the wife, fast phone. There is slight bleeding but very minor and how many G2x I have to go through for it to be perfect.
I'm waiting for SGS2 myself. Superamoled has more pop to its colors. G2X has more natural white. Superamoled + should be better and bigger screen.
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crazythunder said:
is that true about the 30 days for full price purchasers? or is that california only? i bought mine online from tmo. i never heard of this policy. can more than one person confirm this please?
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as far as i know the 30 day policy for full price is nation-wide in corporate retail stores.
it prints out the policy on every single one of our receipts on the bottom, and i'd imagine it would do that in the whole country as well.
My story:
My phone had bleeding/rebooting issues so I decided to exchange.
Called T-Mobile and explained the issues.
CCR told to pack it and send it to T-Mobile Return Center and call them as soon as I shipped it with the tracking number and they will send me the exchange right away. (cool)
I went to my UPS online account, created a shipping label (with tracking number).
Called T-mobile again and told them:
- I just sent my defective phone back here is the tracking number ........ .
CCR started ordering my replacement (took some time, apparently was having a hard time).
At the end, CCR said to me: Okay I had to cancel your order and we will reimburse your money in a couple of days, and we will need to make a new order. (thats when it came to me)
- Can I bye it at my local store so if it has any problem I can exchange in-store?
CCR: Sure thats very smart of you.
No restocking fee, they will pay my shipping.
Already bought it at the store and will be sending the other one tomorrow.
- The new one has the same bleeding problem, same poor signal strengths. At least I haven't had any reboot YET. Will wait for a couple of days without rooting to make sure it is not a rooting issue.
suhailtheboss said:
as far as i know the 30 day policy for full price is nation-wide in corporate retail stores.
it prints out the policy on every single one of our receipts on the bottom, and i'd imagine it would do that in the whole country as well.
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but this doesn't apply if i bought it online through tmo, correct?
crazythunder said:
but this doesn't apply if i bought it online through tmo, correct?
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check your confirmation email from T-Mobile.
This is what mine says:
Return Policy
To receive a refund or exchange, you must return the device within 20 days of the date of your purchase (30 days in California). All original contents must be undamaged and in good working condition, and you must provide your proof of purchase. All devices received as part of a promotional offer (for example, "Buy One Get One Free," etc.) must be returned and some limited edition and other devices may not be refunded or exchanged. You may also be required to pay a restocking fee.
To complete a return or exchange please follow these directions:
Return all devices in their original packaging, including accessories and literature.
Obtain a Return Form and shipping information by visiting T-Mobile online at www.T-Mobile.com/returnupgrade or by contacting Customer Care at 1-800-937-8997.
Send the device via a traceable carrier (such as UPS, FedEx, or DHL), retain shipping information for your records, and insure the package for the full value of the device.
Returns must be received by T-Mobile within 20 days from the date of your purchase (30 days in California).
Accessories: To receive a refund of any accessories purchased, you must return the accessories within 30 days of purchase, along with your proof of purchase.
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thanks. i think alot of people are under the assumption it's 14 days. thanks for pointing that out. i have 10 days after today, got mine last tuesday. mine has slight bleed in top right corner only.room has to be dark to see it. and even with gingerbread black status bar, the clock will hide it. or should. i really hate to return it. it's a great phone. and too many exchange nightmares out here. and....nothing better coming out anytime soon. sensation looks nice.....nice and locked though. what would you do? i think i'm just gonna keep it and keep bugging lg. i started a thread in their forum. and i've been emailing them. no response yet. i'm telling them i demand they personally replace my screen with a non defective one. we'll see how far that goes.
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thanks. i think alot of people are under the assumption it's 14 days. thanks for pointing that out. i have 10 days after today, got mine last tuesday. mine has slight bleed in top right corner only.room has to be dark to see it. and even with gingerbread black status bar, the clock will hide it. or should. i really hate to return it. it's a great phone. and too many exchange nightmares out here. and....nothing better coming out anytime soon. sensation looks nice.....nice and locked though. what would you do? i think i'm just gonna keep it and keep bugging lg. i started a thread in their forum. and i've been emailing them. no response yet. i'm telling them i demand they personally replace my screen with a non defective one. we'll see how far that goes.
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keep us updated.
i work in a tmobile store and always check every g2x before it goes out. pretty much every single one i've seen has had some sort of bleeding (opened at least 15 boxes in store)
so honestly i think the best bet is to get a replacement or repair done by LG directly instead of just exchanging it for another one.
my g2x also has a bit of bleed, but i'm going to wait till CM7 comes out to see if its noticeable or not.
everyone should keep in mind that these phones do come with a 1yr manufacturers warranty, and the screen bleed issue does fall under that warranty. so even if you miss your tmobile exchange window, you're still covered.

Insurance? Squaretrade?

I have the option to purchase squaretrade insurance/warranty for $99 since I bought from letstalk (instead of $124 by going directly to squaretrade).
I still don't understand how this works. Do you just pay the $99, then you can get a new phone even if you get something as simple as a small scratch on your current phone? Do you have to send the old phone back or can you just sell it for parts (assuming it's damaged).
I've never had phone insurance before, but I'm highly considering it because of the dust issue on the HTC sensations.
If you guys know of any other insurance, please let me know too. I've only had the phone 6 days so I have plenty of time to purchase insurance from anywhere.
brian85 said:
I have the option to purchase squaretrade insurance/warranty for $99 since I bought from letstalk (instead of $124 by going directly to squaretrade).
I still don't understand how this works. Do you just pay the $99, then you can get a new phone even if you get something as simple as a small scratch on your current phone? Do you have to send the old phone back or can you just sell it for parts (assuming it's damaged).
I've never had phone insurance before, but I'm highly considering it because of the dust issue on the HTC sensations.
If you guys know of any other insurance, please let me know too. I've only had the phone 6 days so I have plenty of time to purchase insurance from anywhere.
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Read my thread about TMO's premium handset protection. It also covers malfunctions(warranty replacements)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1135836
brian85 said:
I have the option to purchase squaretrade insurance/warranty for $99 since I bought from letstalk (instead of $124 by going directly to squaretrade).
I still don't understand how this works. Do you just pay the $99, then you can get a new phone even if you get something as simple as a small scratch on your current phone? Do you have to send the old phone back or can you just sell it for parts (assuming it's damaged).
I've never had phone insurance before, but I'm highly considering it because of the dust issue on the HTC sensations.
If you guys know of any other insurance, please let me know too. I've only had the phone 6 days so I have plenty of time to purchase insurance from anywhere.
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Squaretrade does nothing if your phone gets lost or stolen. They cover just about everything else with a $50 deductible and roughly a 5 day turnaround.
The insurance t-mobile uses is Asurion and I have used them in the past. If you have a claim, you will need to go through Asurion for the claim and it takes 1 business day (T-mobile is not involved). Personally, I did receive my replacement on a Saturday after I filed a claim at 9PM on a Friday night. The big problem with Asurion is you only get 2 claims per 12 months and the Sensation has a deductible around $150 (it's still not listed on Asurion's site) plus a $5 fee.
The nice thing about Asurion is you get a replacement phone no matter what. Not to mention all they want back is the phone. You get to keep the accessories and battery from your old phone. They also will let you keep your old phone, but they charge another $250+ and it may be considered insurance fraud.
You can see the details on T-Mobile's site: http://support.t-mobile.com/doc/tm23694.xml
mycomputerisjunk said:
Squaretrade does nothing if your phone gets lost or stolen. They cover just about everything else with a $50 deductible and roughly a 5 day turnaround.
The insurance t-mobile uses is Asurion and I have used them in the past. If you have a claim, you will need to go through Asurion for the claim and it takes 1 business day (T-mobile is not involved). Personally, I did receive my replacement on a Saturday after I filed a claim at 9PM on a Friday night. The big problem with Asurion is you only get 2 claims per 12 months and the Sensation has a deductible around $150 (it's still not listed on Asurion's site) plus a $5 fee.
The nice thing about Asurion is you get a replacement phone no matter what. Not to mention all they want back is the phone. You get to keep the accessories and battery from your old phone. They also will let you keep your old phone, but they charge another $250+ and it may be considered insurance fraud.
You can see the details on T-Mobile's site: http://support.t-mobile.com/doc/tm23694.xml
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It's $130.00 deductible for the Sensation.

Nexus 5 Dead

Hi this is my first post but have been avid follower of the site and had multitude of devices. Never felt a real passion as i have today to start a thread, today my nexus 5 died.
I have had my nexus 5 for just other 2 weeks now and for no apparent reason decided to die on me. Battery was fully charged had the phone in my pocket , took out to check it and nothing. My first thought was that maybe i didn't plug it properly and it hadn't charged, so stuck it on charge and nothing not led, no charge icon. left it for about an hour and completely nothing at all, tried everything power and volume buttons. Did a search on Google and couldn't find hardly any info on this sort of situation apart form one forum where a few people have had this issue and seems to be with 32gb version and they needed replacements.
Surely this sort of thing shouldn't be happening, clueless to what it could be, i did unlock, root, and install omni custom rom last night but all was working fine this morning untill it died of course.
Really i just wanted to make people aware of the problem and hear if anyone else has had this issue, or if anyone could shed some light as to what may have caused it.
Whats really ticked me off is Google customer service, i was given an rma and went through the the steps in the email to realize that they would hold the amount for this replacement on my debit card. So basically im buying a new phone and getting a refund when they receive my faulty handset. So now i have no phone and im £350 short for at least 14 days. This is ludicrous im being put out through no fault of my own, not everyone has £350 lying around spare. I understand that Google are covering there arses in-case they don't get the faulty handset back but please you send my a faulty handset and im the one who has jump through hoops and be put out.
Forum with same problem
productforums.google.com/forum/#!msg/nexus/lI6A3fA8bvw/UdpnyaSL2Z4J
Did you try going into recovery and just wipe everything and try again? Or can you at least get to the boot loader?
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Was your pocket wet or was it humid out? My Nexus 4 was what u described
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Dragn4rce said:
Did you try going into recovery and just wipe everything and try again? Or can you at least get to the boot loader?
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No cant get into bootloder can not do anything.
dicecuber said:
Was your pocket wet or was it humid out? My Nexus 4 was what u described
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no pocket was perfectly dry.
The phone has been on charge overnight now and still nothing, i notice that if its on charge or you push any buttons, there is clicking notice in the handset, but you have to hold the handset to your ear to hear it what is that.
dicecuber said:
Whats really ticked me off is Google customer service, i was given an rma and went through the the steps in the email to realize that they would hold the amount for this replacement on my debit card. So basically im buying a new phone and getting a refund when they receive my faulty handset. So now i have no phone and im £350 short for at least 14 days. This is ludicrous im being put out through no fault of my own, not everyone has £350 lying around spare. I understand that Google are covering there arses in-case they don't get the faulty handset back but please you send my a faulty handset and im the one who has jump through hoops and be put out.
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Why does it tick you off? Why should Google be on the hook for $350? So many unscrupulous people out there, it's a normal business practice.
If you want to spare the $350, then send the phone into LG Warranty repair. They won't send you a loaner, but your phone will be repaired for no cost to you under their warranty.
Here is where you still complain its not fair because you won't have a phone then, and Google should still give you everything for free until you return your phone....
I think that it might be battery problem. And do use any cover on it? Because some covers can cover your power button and press it.
And also might be stuck power button.
PaisanNYC said:
Why does it tick you off? Why should Google be on the hook for $350? So many unscrupulous people out there, it's a normal business practice.
If you want to spare the $350, then send the phone into LG Warranty repair. They won't send you a loaner, but your phone will be repaired for no cost to you under their warranty.
Here is where you still complain its not fair because you won't have a phone then, and Google should still give you everything for free until you return your phone....[/QUOTE
Why does it tick me off! you my friend are either ignorant or stupid. It is my Statutory right here in the UK to be sold a product that is fit for purpose. From the sales of good act
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Repair or replacement of the goods
 
(1)If section 48A above applies, the buyer may require the seller—
(a)to repair the goods, or
(b)to replace the goods.
(2)If the buyer requires the seller to repair or replace the goods, the seller must—
(a)repair or, as the case may be, replace the goods within a reasonable time but without causing significant inconvenience to the buyer;
(b)bear any necessary costs incurred in doing so (including in particular the cost of any labour, materials or postage).
So trying to find £350 pound is a bit of an inconvenience for me, maybe not you as clearly that's nothing to you but for the normal working class id say that was a bit of inconvenience.
Why would i not complain im not a multi billion pound company who can afford to be £700 out of pocket with nothing to show for it. i haven't asked for anything for free all im asking for is to have what a paid for, a working phone.
Yea there are unscrupulous people out there but that's not all of us, i remember the day when company's looked after there customers because they were the ones that made them there profit.
Thanks for your 2 pence anyway.
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burton900 said:
PaisanNYC said:
Why does it tick you off? Why should Google be on the hook for $350? So many unscrupulous people out there, it's a normal business practice.
If you want to spare the $350, then send the phone into LG Warranty repair. They won't send you a loaner, but your phone will be repaired for no cost to you under their warranty.
Here is where you still complain its not fair because you won't have a phone then, and Google should still give you everything for free until you return your phone....[/QUOTE
Why does it tick me off! you my friend are either ignorant or stupid. It is my Statutory right here in the UK to be sold a product that is fit for purpose. From the sales of good act
1979F4048B
Repair or replacement of the goods
 
(1)If section 48A above applies, the buyer may require the seller—
(a)to repair the goods, or
(b)to replace the goods.
(2)If the buyer requires the seller to repair or replace the goods, the seller must—
(a)repair or, as the case may be, replace the goods within a reasonable time but without causing significant inconvenience to the buyer;
(b)bear any necessary costs incurred in doing so (including in particular the cost of any labour, materials or postage).
So trying to find £350 pound is a bit of an inconvenience for me, maybe not you as clearly that's nothing to you but for the normal working class id say that was a bit of inconvenience.
Why would i not complain im not a multi billion pound company who can afford to be £700 out of pocket with nothing to show for it. i haven't asked for anything for free all im asking for is to have what a paid for, a working phone.
Yea there are unscrupulous people out there but that's not all of us, i remember the day when company's looked after there customers because they were the ones that made them there profit.
Thanks for your 2 pence anyway.
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Get a job
Why does it tick me off! you my friend are either ignorant or stupid. It is my Statutory right here in the UK to be sold a product that is fit for purpose. From the sales of good act
I see nothing wrong with googles policy.
Get a part time job maybe if you can't afford them freezing the $349 on your card for two weeks.
I felt for you when reading about your phone problem.
But after reading your whining posts about googles policy well thats life in the big city.
trsix said:
Why does it tick me off! you my friend are either ignorant or stupid. It is my Statutory right here in the UK to be sold a product that is fit for purpose. From the sales of good act
I see nothing wrong with googles policy.
Get a part time job maybe if you can't afford them freezing the $349 on your card for two weeks.
I felt for you when reading about your phone problem.
But after reading your whining posts about googles policy well thats life in the big city.
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What Google could do is send a pre-paid bag out and NOT send a replacement phone and once they receive the faulty they then send a new one. OK, you're without a phone for a day or so but it would mean no one is out of pocket and Google don't lose out as they get the original back first. We do this at my company and it works just fine
I find it hard to believe you Americans think that Google's policy is fair? I work full time but would still find it an inconvenience that a device I bought in good faith died and I have to fund a replacement first before I can get the replacement. Not everyone has £350 available as disposable cash, I certainly don't as everything I earn is budgeted for and ear marked for bills, rent, etc. A shop wouldn't ask you to do this and neither should a mail order purchase.
I'm not bashing Google as a company, just their returns policy
I get what you are saying but I don't think you are understanding what is happening. If you want an RMA they hold the money on your card because they are sending you a brand new device. You are 100% able to send the phone in to LG for free to have it replaced under warranty because it is faulty. You have an option that does not cost you any money. You are taking the option that does.
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By the way they don't actually charge you any money for the replacement they simply authorize in case you don't send them back a phone. Also you can keep your phone on until you get the replacement and then you can send them back your faulty one.
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EddyOS said:
What Google could do is send a pre-paid bag out and NOT send a replacement phone and once they receive the faulty they then send a new one. OK, you're without a phone for a day or so but it would mean no one is out of pocket and Google don't lose out as they get the original back first. We do this at my company and it works just fine
I find it hard to believe you Americans think that Google's policy is fair? I work full time but would still find it an inconvenience that a device I bought in good faith died and I have to fund a replacement first before I can get the replacement. Not everyone has £350 available as disposable cash, I certainly don't as everything I earn is budgeted for and ear marked for bills, rent, etc. A shop wouldn't ask you to do this and neither should a mail order purchase.
I'm not bashing Google as a company, just their returns policy
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If funds were that tight I wouldn't be buying a $349. Phone to start with.
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If funds were that tight I wouldn't be buying a $349. Phone to start with.
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That's just a piss poor response to a valid point. I can afford the phone, and I will be buying on on Friday as it happens, I was saying I don't have an ADDITIONAL £350 lying about. If it went wrong I'd expect it to be repaired/replaced at no cost within the warranty. I can live without a phone for a day or so so Google should provide the RMA package WITHOUT sending a new phone and once they receive the faulty one they send a new one. HTC do this. Everyone would be happy. Google could easily do this but choose not to and this is why I think their RMA procedure is poor.
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trsix said:
Why does it tick me off! you my friend are either ignorant or stupid. It is my Statutory right here in the UK to be sold a product that is fit for purpose. From the sales of good act
I see nothing wrong with googles policy.
Get a part time job maybe if you can't afford them freezing the $349 on your card for two weeks.
I felt for you when reading about your phone problem.
But after reading your whining posts about googles policy well that's life in the big city.
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Sorry im not a middle aged man, living at home with my parents, with nothing better to spend my money on. Im to busy living in the real world working and providing a good life for my family.What was the reason you commented on this post again? An let me remind you its £349 that's $570 to you.
I Agree that it would be better process to be able to send your device back for an exchange, not only would you not be out of pocket but would be a faster process. I think you would find that is a more normal business practice, at least here in UK. You don't have to re buy a product if you want an exchange it at any other mail order company Maybe this guy works for google and has so much spare cash because he is keeping hold everyone's money for 14 days.
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I get what you are saying but I don't think you are understanding what is happening. If you want an RMA they hold the money on your card because they are sending you a brand new device. You are 100% able to send the phone in to LG for free to have it replaced under warranty because it is faulty. You have an option that does not cost you any money. You are taking the option that does.
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i was unaware of this option and was never made aware of it otherwise i would have done so.
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By the way they don't actually charge you any money for the replacement they simply authorize in case you don't send them back a phone. Also you can keep your phone on until you get the replacement and then you can send them back your faulty one.
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Im well aware of the technicality of how they hold the funds but it is as good as being charged as you have no access to that money. That was what i was trying to get at,
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If funds were that tight I wouldn't be buying a $349. Phone to start with.
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1. Is it not the point Google are trying to make by making available a high spec device at an affordable price.
2.Being able to spare £350 and being able to spare £700 is bit of a difference don't you think.
3,I think your missing point its not so much about being able to spare the cash as it is the fact you give a company your business and when things go wrong you expect to be treated as a valued customer. I never asked for a special treatment or the world for that matter, i just wanted an easy, inconvenient way of replacing faulty goods.
I experienced the same issue last night. Charged my phone up and it was fine. Put it in my pocket, took it out a couple hours later and it was off. Haven't been able to turn it on since. No water damage, and I've never dropped it. I'm going through the RMA process now.
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I get what you are saying but I don't think you are understanding what is happening. If you want an RMA they hold the money on your card because they are sending you a brand new device. You are 100% able to send the phone in to LG for free to have it replaced under warranty because it is faulty. You have an option that does not cost you any money. You are taking the option that does.
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That is completely bull****. I spent two hours on the phone with LG, Google, and LG+Google support managers trying to get a repair on an *in warranty* nexus 4, (they stated that this same policy applies to the Nexus 5) instead of a RMA through Google. LG will NOT do in-warranty service, if you send a Nexus that was bought through google play to LG they treat it as an out-of-warranty repair no matter what. (Yes, I am very aware that this policy is illegal, I tried explaining that to the person they transferred me to in LG legal, they said to try my luck with small-claims). To get your money back after they bill you the out of warranty price for your in warranty repair you have either have to go to small-claims court or try to get your bank to reverse the charge. Its a total bull**** policy that is, in fact, illegal, but until someone actually sues them over it, nothing is going to change. I ended up just biting the bullet on the normal RMA since I've got a Nexus 5 anyway.
LG will not accept in-warranty repairs for Google Play purchased Nexus devices, they require you to go through Google, no exceptions. I really wish it weren't true, but a conference call with LG and Google Play support managers resulted in my beating my head against a wall on exactly this issue.
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By the way they don't actually charge you any money for the replacement they simply authorize in case you don't send them back a phone. Also you can keep your phone on until you get the replacement and then you can send them back your faulty one.
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Been a while since I used a debit card, but I remember my bank actually did prevent me from spending funds that were pre-authorized. Yes, the money was still mine, but it's set aside and I wasn't able to touch it until the preauth expired. Can be very inconvenient when cash is tight.
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This thread is soo off topic now.

50.00 deductible for 600.00 phone, should I be worried?

Today, while running with my son on a nature trail, a freak accident happened. The stroller hit a rock in such a way it launched my phone from a holding pouch into the air and onto the ground shattering the screen. (i run over 75 miles a month for the last two years, so never dreamed of this happening) I was devastated, especially since it's a month old and since i'm one NEXT i can't really afford an extra 200 bucks. I went onto the phoneclaim website and tried to file a claim, initially telling me my deductible was 199.99 but my g3 wasn't listed and it told me to call to file the claim.
So, I call the number, speak to someone. She asked me about the damage, and what accessories if any i was claiming. I told her just the phone, no accessories or sim card - since that stuff was in tact. After putting me on hold, she asked me about the color of the phone, repeated the LG G3, asked me to verify identity questions (which amounted to my street address) and said that my deductible was 50.00 which would be applied to my bill. Now, i said
"not that i'm complaining, but this is the 32gb white LG G3 we're talking about, correct? "
"she replies yes sir"
"I said not only did the at&t rep tell me 199.99 when i signed up for the insurance, but the website also told me 199.99 when i entered in my number"
"she said I wouldn't complain either sir, it states 50.00 here with 1-2 business days shipping"
So, what are the odds something bad is going to happen here?
Ie: the wrong phone replacement, not a phone at all, but like a battery or something... i dunno.
Just can't wrap my mind around everyone saying 199.99, then being told 50.00 for 600 phone. ....
should I be worried?
Did they send you a confirmation email? If not, call back with the case # and get them to email that to you.
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Did they send you a confirmation email? If not, call back with the case # and get them to email that to you.
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They did, but all it states is that the claim is been received and being processed and a tracking number will be provided once it ships.
I'd imagine you're good to go at $50 since she told you that.
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I'd imagine you're good to go at $50 since she told you that.
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It's a good thing I went back to the site.
They had me for a replacement of the G3 VIGOR, not the G3 D850. When I called back, they asked me a ton more questions plus i have to sign an affidavit and send in a copy of my license. Then she told me an adjuster would call me and let me know if it would be replaced or not. She also said had i not called back i wouldn't have even gotten a new phone because the last person screwed up.
But, seriously... what am I paying insurance for if they will let me know about the replacement... i'm pretty sure we pay insurance for this exact issue.
I dunno, what a headache.
That sucks! I've replaced one that way before and I never had to give them a copy of my license? I'd sure be *****ing. Good luck!
Unfortunately this happened to me a week after I had my phone. The deductible was 165$ & they tried to give me an lg g2. Luckily I called back and had it fixed. It was a quick yet expensive lesson. And yes, I had to do the same with my license and an affidavit. Hope it goes well for you.
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petros855 said:
Unfortunately this happened to me a week after I had my phone. The deductible was 165$ & they tried to give me an lg g2. Luckily I called back and had it fixed. It was a quick yet expensive lesson. And yes, I had to do the same with my license and an affidavit. Hope it goes well for you.
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No such luck for me. I've had my claim denied twice now. I've filled out three affidavits, sent in various pics of the phone and barcodes, license etc. I've mad a trip to the AT&T store all to no avail.
The reasoning is all very vague, like telling me my time of occurrence and date of last usage don't match, or that they've even tried telling me i don't own a G3 lol.
Worst experience ever...
I'll end up trying to contact LG and see if i can just get them to replace the screen for the 200 bucks it will cost or whatever.
sigh.
st0nez0r said:
No such luck for me. I've had my claim denied twice now. I've filled out three affidavits, sent in various pics of the phone and barcodes, license etc. I've mad a trip to the AT&T store all to no avail.
The reasoning is all very vague, like telling me my time of occurrence and date of last usage don't match, or that they've even tried telling me i don't own a G3 lol.
Worst experience ever...
I'll end up trying to contact LG and see if i can just get them to replace the screen for the 200 bucks it will cost or whatever.
sigh.
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That's weird that they say your " time of occurrence and date of last usage don't match"
Are you rooted and did you remove lots of apps like carrierIQ?
Do you think they are just BSing you?
Lol this makes me want to cancel my insurance...
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That's weird that they say your " time of occurrence and date of last usage don't match"
Are you rooted and did you remove lots of apps like carrierIQ?
Do you think they are just BSing you?
Lol this makes me want to cancel my insurance...
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Now that you mention it. I am rooted, i removed the bloat and carrierIQ the day I got the phone.
I might just have to send my phone to LG for a screen repair and call it a day. I'll keep you all updated when they deny my claim again tomorrow lol.
Insurance on anything that depreciates like a smart phone is a scam. I would never and have never gotten phone insurance. I keep one old phone at all times just in case this happens.
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Insurance on anything that depreciates like a smart phone is a scam. I would never and have never gotten phone insurance. I keep one old phone at all times just in case this happens.
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I would normally agree. I've only ever gotten insurance once, and it was for this phone. I also kept my galaxy s3 just in case this very thing happened. But, since i'm on the next program, i'll be damned if i'm paying 600.00+ for a phone that i can't use, even if it means i have to fork out extra for a replacement.
All that said, they actually approved my claim after several denials - nothing ever changed with the paperwork.
Now i just have to keep my fingers crossed that i get a new g3 replacement (or damn near like new referb). I hope it's not a heap of junk replacement like i've read in other stories about asurion.
Now, i've actually heard great first hand things about square trade insurance, cheaper payments, cheaper deductible, and no questions asked claims. some folks my wife and I work with use it and had nothing but good things to say about them, which is where i'll be headed to after my replacement.
*Shrug* Whatever floats your boat. Cracked screen repair for the G3 is about $150 direct from LG. They are going to send the phone to LG to repair it. Probably at a volume discount. They probably make a ~$100 profit on the G3 every time someone uses their warranty. Every phone claim is a profit for the company. If it is not, then they deny the claim. This is why I call it a scam. You are paying them monthly for the privilege of maybe having to let them profit off of you.
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st0nez0r said:
Now, i've actually heard great first hand things about square trade insurance, cheaper payments, cheaper deductible, and no questions asked claims. some folks my wife and I work with use it and had nothing but good things to say about them, which is where i'll be headed to after my replacement.
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Haven't heard of this before, this looks like much less of a scam than the Assurian BS scam.
Interesting! Thanks for mentioning it.
I just get a rubber tpu bumper case and a screen protector and forget the insurance
Hi st0nez0r,
We’re glad to hear that ultimately we were able to get this resolved and a replacement device is on its way to you! This is not a typical experience and we’d hate to lose a valued customer. While we understand that paperwork is never fun we have the affidavit process in place for your protection. This helps prevent fraudulent claims against your account and helps keep premiums from rising. We recognize the cost associated with replacing a device which is why it’s our goal to help our customers save money while also getting them reconnected quickly should they experience a covered loss. In addition to covering physical damage, we also cover liquid damage, loss and theft; where most do not.
While we do use both new and certified-like new devices, keep in mind, all replacements come with a 12 month limited warranty. Should you experience any warranty failure, we’ll replace the phone at no additional cost.
We appreciate you sharing your experience, as it helps us to improve the services that we offer. Please let us know if you have any other questions or if we can be of further assistance.
Thanks,
Asurion Social Media Team @AsurionCares
www.phoneclaim.com
AsurionCares said:
Hi st0nez0r,
We’re glad to hear that ultimately we were able to get this resolved and a replacement device is on its way to you! This is not a typical experience and we’d hate to lose a valued customer. While we understand that paperwork is never fun we have the affidavit process in place for your protection. This helps prevent fraudulent claims against your account and helps keep premiums from rising. We recognize the cost associated with replacing a device which is why it’s our goal to help our customers save money while also getting them reconnected quickly should they experience a covered loss. In addition to covering physical damage, we also cover liquid damage, loss and theft; where most do not.
While we do use both new and certified-like new devices, keep in mind, all replacements come with a 12 month limited warranty. Should you experience any warranty failure, we’ll replace the phone at no additional cost.
We appreciate you sharing your experience, as it helps us to improve the services that we offer. Please let us know if you have any other questions or if we can be of further assistance.
Thanks,
Asurion Social Media Team @AsurionCares
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This was quite unexpected but appreciated.
Honestly, In terms of cellphones, dealing with Asurion was one of the worse experience I've ever had in the history of owning a cell phone. While I understand the need for paperwork and whatever various methods you use to combat insurance fraud,
beyond those measures is where I had the real problems:
Dealing with rude/obnoxious customer support representatives (just one, but one too many.)
The run around game. Sending me to an AT&T store to obtain info, then to be belittled by another rep for doing what I was initially asked to do. (referring to the same rep as above)
Lack of information and communication during the process. In some cases I didn't get a call or email explaining why my claims were initially canceled. I had to call back for that info.
The website is not all that great either. one example would be filling in your first/last name, phone number, email, and social just for an update. How about a tracking number process or something.
No option to contact/talk to support after paperwork is submitted for review. If you have questions/problems you can't speak to anyone during that process. You're greeted with a phone message stating your stuff is under review and that you'll be contacted. then hangs up on you. I guess this is in place so work can actually get accomplished without being overwhelmed by calls, but still...
In the end I did receive a brand new replacement device. The return process was also a snap.
I've learned my lesson at any rate. I invested the extra money in a spigen slim armor case and tempered glass protector.
Thanks for replying to this post.
I almost had a similar experience with Asurion, but ultimately a good one. It all started with initiating my claim over the phone, just to discover no record of my claim upon following-up. The follow-up rep offered to resubmit or direct me to the website, where I'd be able to print documents required and receive confirmation/ updates upon successful submission.
After downloading, printing and competing the affidavit, I was able to scan and upload, along with my ID. This took less than 15 minutes.
I had a brand new phone, shipped from AT&T within a couple days. I've been a wireless dealer, and the Asurion representative's explanation about hurdles preventing fraud are entirely valid. The $200 deductible + my first monthly premium is not a scam- they ate maximum money on my claim, particularly as my replacement was NOT refurbished. I'm still only paying AT&T for one phone. Asurion bought the majority of the other. My deductible will be used to minimize the loss, likely through repair and reuse for a future claim. Loss/theft is an even bigger loser. Their money is made from premium revenue that exceeds claims expenses.
While it sounds like they could tighten up their call centers, if Asurion has replaced your $600 phone, they've certainly not robbed you.
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This is why I never use the carrier insurance it sucks and the more the customer service... All my devices I always go with SquareTrade, only $5.00 a month and $75.00 deductible.

T-Mobile Exchanges

I was told I cannot exchange my Xperia Z3 at a store even if I ordered there because it came by mail. Call TMO customer care and tell them to cross ship you a new one. They will ask if you want warranty or new one. Say you want brand new, if they ask for $50 restocking refuse it like I did and they will agree after a few mins. They will refund your tax charge and charge it again as a fresh order.
Having said that, it is on backorder at TMO, waiting for tracking still. I re ordered a new one yesterday.
Just wanted to let people know so they do not get charged extra or get a refurbished device.
Why did you want to exchange it? What was wrong?
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Why did you want to exchange it? What was wrong?
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I think I'm going to exchange mine too!! The glass on the back panel is all scratched up and I took it out of the box that way!! Do you think they will refuse me because It's just cosmetic??
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Why did you want to exchange it? What was wrong?
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I had severe light bleed at night on right side in intervals along the frame, and frame was slightly indented towards the display near the power button.
HaileyB said:
I think I'm going to exchange mine too!! The glass on the back panel is all scratched up and I took it out of the box that way!! Do you think they will refuse me because It's just cosmetic??
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I doubt they will refuse, as this is supposed to be a brand new device.
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I doubt they will refuse, as this is supposed to be a brand new device.
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Called T-Mobile, the box it came in was all dented up and the bottom corner of the phone is raised up. Also have an issue with terrible battery life and calls just failing constantly ( I live in a total LTE area for T-Mobile)
They are overnighting me a new one after I called support, got transferred 3 times but was within my "buyers remorse period" so I will be sent a brand new phone.
Got a confirmation that the re-order was processed just waiting on shipping info.
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Called T-Mobile, the box it came in was all dented up and the bottom corner of the phone is raised up. Also have an issue with terrible battery life and calls just failing constantly ( I live in a total LTE area for T-Mobile)
They are overnighting me a new one after I called support, got transferred 3 times but was within my "buyers remorse period" so I will be sent a brand new phone.
Got a confirmation that the re-order was processed just waiting on shipping info.
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Good you got that over with, I just gave mine to UPS and returned home. I had to calmly argue with the lady rep on TMO for like 5 minutes to forgoe stocking charges as its not our fault if a brand new device is defective. She talked to her manager said they would waive it. Make sure to check on that.
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I was told I cannot exchange my Xperia Z3 at a store even if I ordered there because it came by mail. Call TMO customer care and tell them to cross ship you a new one. They will ask if you want warranty or new one. Say you want brand new, if they ask for $50 restocking refuse it like I did and they will agree after a few mins. They will refund your tax charge and charge it again as a fresh order.
Having said that, it is on backorder at TMO, waiting for tracking still. I re ordered a new one yesterday.
Just wanted to let people know so they do not get charged extra or get a refurbished device.
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Do you have to return your phone right away or can you wait until you receive the new one?
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Do you have to return your phone right away or can you wait until you receive the new one?
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They can do cross shipping, meaning they will send you one before you send yours, however the phone is on backorder again so you will have to ship yours out otherwise you will get double charged if it does not reach in time. This is because it is considered a return and repurchase.
I called and the lady was very nice ( a first) She said that she would send me and email with the new phone info within 24 hours and that she understood my frustration. She also said that they would change me the taxes for the new phone but credit me the taxes for the first one No mention of a restocking fee or the phone being backordered. So lets hope TMo doesn't find a way to screw this one up!
Do you have to pay for the return shipping and insurance?
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Do you have to pay for the return shipping and insurance?
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I didn't UPS did not tell me if insurance was paid for by TMO, crossing my fingers.
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Do you have to pay for the return shipping and insurance?
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Update. MyTmobile Account shows that they 1. have my shipping information wrong. and 2. Are going to charge me $25.00 for shipping the new phone. Uhh, no. I'm going to call tomorrow. Silly me for thinking Tmobile would do anything correctly.
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Update. MyTmobile Account shows that they 1. have my shipping information wrong. and 2. Are going to charge me $25.00 for shipping the new phone. Uhh, no. I'm going to call tomorrow. Silly me for thinking Tmobile would do anything correctly.
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Overnight shipping charge, I got that too.
To all shipping phones back to t-mobile. Make sure you keep all tracking info. You should also add insurance. I returned an iphone 6 plus a month ago and they still have not found it. I am arguing with them on the eip which they charge me monthly even though i do not have the phone. Again, make sure you track add insurance and signature before shipping back.
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To all shipping phones back to t-mobile. Make sure you keep all tracking info. You should also add insurance. I returned an iphone 6 plus a month ago and they still have not found it. I am arguing with them on the eip which they charge me monthly even though i do not have the phone. Again, make sure you track add insurance and signature before shipping back.
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I'm having the same issue, btw insurance means nothing because item shows as received.
so things to look out for are...
- Light leak
- purple/Bad/Noisy Camera Performance
- red spot on Camera
- cosmetic damage
...anything else?
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so things to look out for are...
- Light leak
- purple/Bad/Noisy Camera Performance
- red spot on Camera
- cosmetic damage
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Well mine if you looked very carefully you could see its frame was indented towards the LCD near the power button, leaving less gap there, just imagine if it cracked there on a hot day because the glass expanded.....
I am sending back the original phone I pre-ordered. TMO sent me a shipping label and all I have to do is drop it off at UPS. Instead of having them ship me a new one I just went into the store and bought a new one. They will refund me the charges of the first phone when they receive it in the mail. What I noticed in doing this however is that the phone I purchased in store was of much better quality. The cosmetics of the phone were seamless, no light leaks, no purple camera and the battery seems to last WAY longer than it did on the one I pre-ordered. This makes me wonder if TMO rushed manufacturing the Pre-order devices and that is why there are so many issues with them? Either way, I am SOO happy I went and bought a new one in store. It's fabulous!!
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I am sending back the original phone I pre-ordered. TMO sent me a shipping label and all I have to do is drop it off at UPS. Instead of having them ship me a new one I just went into the store and bought a new one. They will refund me the charges of the first phone when they receive it in the mail. What I noticed in doing this however is that the phone I purchased in store was of much better quality. The cosmetics of the phone were seamless, no light leaks, no purple camera and the battery seems to last WAY longer than it did on the one I pre-ordered. This makes me wonder if TMO rushed manufacturing the Pre-order devices and that is why there are so many issues with them? Either way, I am SOO happy I went and bought a new one in store. It's fabulous!!
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I called my nearest store, no stock, they said maybe tomorrow. I guess I will wait for tracking and stick to the mail order.
I'm glad you got a good one, enjoy!

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