I am thinking of moving from android to windows phone 7 and I have a few questions.
1)Is the gMap app available in Ireland and UK and can it do local search and navigate to it? Now I don't need turn by turn just a line that you can follow on a map and can track your movement
2) Which out the following devices you would think is best and why:- HTC Trophy, HTC Mozart, HTC 7 Pro or Lg Optimus 7
3) Can mango been install on these devices now unofficially or do I have to wait for official release.
4) Where would I find 3rd party apps?
Thanks in advance
mikeegan77 said:
I am thinking of moving from android to windows phone 7 and I have a few questions.
1)Is the gMap app available in Ireland and UK and can it do local search and navigate to it? Now I don't need turn by turn just a line that you can follow on a map and can track your movement
2) Which out the following devices you would think is best and why:- HTC Trophy, HTC Mozart, HTC 7 Pro or Lg Optimus 7
3) Can mango been install on these devices now unofficially or do I have to wait for official release.
4) Where would I find 3rd party apps?
Thanks in advance
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1) gMap is apparently based on Google so it supports those countries I think. But it's really poor compared to Google Maps.
2) All of them are quite robust and reliable. I have Optimus 7 which has a great quality BUT after 7 months part of the screen became greyish - visible only on white. I guess LG is not the quality master...... Also Optimus has hardware keys.
All of the phones have good cameras in daylight and quite ****ty in dark, a WP7 trademark....
3) Yes you can have Mango now, many users have it here.
4) Marketplace
u won't regret the switch one bit to wp7
1) it should work and I think Bing works there as well.
2) I would go with a phone by HTC, I have the arrive (7 pro) and I love it.
3) yes the mango beta is released here and on just about any other forum site.
4) u can get then from the marketplace and if ur developer unlocked ($9 US) u can sideload apps.
ignore the ****ty picture quality being a wp7 trademark remark. I've seen poor quality from all OSes and my arrive takes good outdoor pictures
eric12341 said:
u won't regret the switch one bit to wp7
1) it should work and I think Bing works there as well.
2) I would go with a phone by HTC, I have the arrive (7 pro) and I love it.
3) yes the mango beta is released here and on just about any other forum site.
4) u can get then from the marketplace and if ur developer unlocked ($9 US) u can sideload apps.
ignore the ****ty picture quality being a wp7 trademark remark. I've seen poor quality from all OSes and my arrive takes good outdoor pictures
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I think the picture quality is quite great. It might not compare very well to dedicated 10+ MP cameras, but these are phones, not dedicated cameras.
I can only say that the htc hd7 is the Best phone i have ever had in my life i Love this phone and Windows phone os too, every Person who Sees my phone Want to have it
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I can only say that the htc hd7 is the Best phone i have ever had in my life i Love this phone and Windows phone os too, every Person who Sees my phone Want to have it
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I know what you mean. I had an HD7 for a while until I moved to AT&T...before they get their HD7. I loved mine. A gorgeous phone and felt so good.
Thanks for the reply's.
I use google maps alot and from another forum I know that bing maps are not fully updated for some new roads (built 2-3 years ago) and has very few POI's for Ireland. This could be a deal breaker for me. Is nokia maps coming soon to WP7?
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u won't regret the switch one bit to wp7
1) it should work and I think Bing works there as well.
2) I would go with a phone by HTC, I have the arrive (7 pro) and I love it.
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I was thinking of getting this phone. I can get this sim free for €275 ($400).
What is battery life like? Does screen move about when touching the screen when the keyboard is closed?
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2) All of them are quite robust and reliable. I have Optimus 7 which has a great quality BUT after 7 months part of the screen became greyish - visible only on white. I guess LG is not the quality master...... Also Optimus has hardware keys.
All of the phones have good cameras in daylight and quite ****ty in dark, a WP7 trademark....
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The quality of a camera in low light is directly related to the size of the lens, ANY camera with a lens the size of a sesame seed will suffer in low light situations. This is not specific to WP7.
I live in Sweden and Bing Maps isn't even supposed to work at all. But im navigating fine with it. For driving it updates to slow to be any good. So i installed a pay navigation app named Turn By Turn and it is just great.
Also, there are some Google apps in Marketplace that could replace Bing, but Bing is intergrated and have so far worked flawless.
All other questions everybody answerd. I my self use Omnia 7 16GB and very happy with it. Dont know about the other phones, but LG Optimus 7 have only one flaw, and it's the screen. The LG phone it aelf is great, but the screen is horrible compared to any phones out there. Here in Sweden you can buy a new LG, unlocked/carrier free for 1900 SEK. Should be around 200$ That's very cheep for a smartphone of this magnetude. But i wouldn't pay more ether because of the bad screen, wich is sad because native apps and other hardware parts is good.
Hope i didn't offend any LG users, its my and some close friends observations. 1 still bought it but everytime he looks at other screens he gets sad.
If you dont like SAMOLED like me, go for a HTC device. Seems also to be supporting there WP great.
Time have passed, so i wonder if not Dell Venue Pro could make for a good chooise. Thats the phone i wanted initally. But Venue Pro, Focus and Omnia 7 are SAMOLED / AMOLED devices.
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The quality of a camera in low light is directly related to the size of the lens, ANY camera with a lens the size of a sesame seed will suffer in low light situations. This is not specific to WP7.
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While the things you both say are true, I wouldn't call the image quality I get from my Focus, even in brightly lit scenarios, to be anywhere close to good. It might be OK for resizing down images to post on Facebook, or for viewing on your phone, but for anything else the quality is almost useless. The images are excessively noisy and overly compressed, with almost no dynamic range at all. Even trying to manually adjust the settings to compensate makes virtually no difference. I've looked at quite a few full size photos taken with some of the "competition", and the difference is almost night and day.
I have high hopes for the cameras in the new Nokia phones, given the quality of glass they will be using, but that is only one factor. The physical sensor needs to be up to the task, as does the image processor that reads the raw values from it.
Obviously, it is silly to make broad generalizations like the "WP7 trademark" comment about camera quality, but what I can say for certain is that the quality in the Focus is far below what it could be, even for a phone camera.
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Hi all,
I was hoping to upgrade to Diamond when its out in the UK. But now the Samsung Omnia is out, I am a bit confused as to which one to go for. I invite everyone to give your opinion on it. I am sure there are many like me out there.
MY initial views are;
Diamond is a cool phone and the HTC have years of experience with WM phones. But it does have its own flows like HTC doesnt seem to know how to make proper camera and issues with video drivers. And their headphones are good for nothing. I really think these areas will be better with Omnia, at least the 5MP camera and the headphone quality.
On the other side, Omnia is slightly bigger and and heavier than the Diamond. And the display is Qvga? (I am not an expert on this). Both have GPS and Accelerometer and stuff.
So guys give us your opinion on this.
Cheers
Jugulator
I'm desperatly trying to source my Omnia from Asia as its not out here in the UK yet. I currently have a G900 and whilst the screen is spanking, its camera is rubbish and it doesn't have GPS, which i REALLY want.
As for HTC, having had 3 HTC devices and having had to return said devices 6 times in total for hardware repairs I will never, ever, ever buy a HTC device again. Oh and just to add, the guy that sits oposite me in the office has an orange branded TyTN, i mentioned the build quality to him about 6 months ago and he laughed at me and said his worked perfectly. Guess what, he finaly threw the thing in the bin today as the last of the front hardware keys gave up on him.
So, don't care if HTC make the greatest phone on the planet, i ain't buying it.
I like the specs of the Omni, but the UI does not appear up to par on the whole compared to that of the Diamond/Rafael.
http://samsungomnia.com/omnia-videos/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoaXA9un7YE
Thanks for the video. Interesting GUI. I definately like the design of the Omnia. The GUI looks a little bit slugglish and unresponsive at times. But with a large screen (although low pixel dimension), 5MP camera & 16GB max storage--it's hard to say no. The widescreen QVGA is disturbing for a feature rich phone like this. The iPhone hides the pixel dimensions nicely so I'm hoping this one will too.
I'm passing on the Diamond (because of the 4GB max storage) and hoping for the Touch Pro. If you can port TouchFlo 3D on the Omnia and have it be as fluid as the iPhone UI, I would seriously buy it.
VGA and QVGA
Could someone shred some light on the difference between VGA and QVGA? If this is significantly different, I would favour Diamond than Omnia, plus smaller size and weight. But at the same time I would like to try something other than HTC..lol.
Get the Rapheal it will be better than both the Omnia and Diamond.
This Omni phones got my eye, will add it to the review list on the Formal '08 smart phone comparison. Check my signature.
Hmmm touch choice, X1, Pro, or Omnia. Depends on the Camera I get really, no camer -> probably omnia, Good camera-> one of the others. 5MP is sick, and considering HTC Cameras are ****, it makes the 5 even better.
Rory
Go for the Omnia. If you look at the videos from youtube, the omnia opens apps REALLY FAST. It may not be as responsive as we should want, probably due to the screen, but the processor speed makes up for it. Not to mention the 16 GB storage and micro SD slot. It has XVID and DIVX support out of the box, so you know it will definitely perform well with videos. The 5 MP camera also s a huge plus. The only drawbacks I could think off is how good will the battery last in a day of use, and the wide QVGA screen which might not be compatible with most or all available apps yet.
I had a dilemma choosing between the Advantage X7510 and the Omnia, but in the end, I opted for the BIG SCREEN and good battery life of the X7510.
But with the choices you have given, go for the Omnia.
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Could someone shred some light on the difference between VGA and QVGA? If this is significantly different, I would favour Diamond than Omnia, plus smaller size and weight. But at the same time I would like to try something other than HTC..lol.
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VGA is 640 by 480 screen resolution while QVGA is 320 by 240 resolution. Basically VGA screen have 4 times as much clarity and quality as QVGA screens, in theory atleast.
I too am thinking of the SGH-i907. I will be moving and need to switch to GSM and sense the i907 is going to AT&T that will work just fine for me. But I will have to use it in Verizon/AllHell network until I move. So I hope it will work ok. I think with the 8 or 16GB internal memory and the availability to use the external micro SD slot is nice. I guess to top it off they should have used a VGA screen but WGVA isn't too bad is it? What is the mp of the secondary camera? I am also wondering if Android can be ported to the i907?
Release Date: June, 2008
56.9x112x12.5mm, Microsoft Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional , 32bit Marvell PXA320, 128MiB RAM, 16000MiB ROM, 3.2" 400x240 color transflective TFT display, video out, Proprietary audio jack, GSM850/GSM900/GSM1800/GSM1900/UMTS2100, CSD, GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, HSDPA, microSD/microSDHC/TransFlash/SDIO, Proprietary port, Bluetooth, WLAN, GPS, A-GPS, FM radio, accelerometer, 5MP camera, AF, flash, secondary camera, 1440mAh removable battery.
Anyone know what version of Opera 9.5 the i900 is running?
I'm thinking between HTC Touch Pro and Omnia. If possible want to get both of them to compare. But still worry about omnia regarding below issues:
1. no support on forum such as tweaking, customize and cook rom.
2. where to download the rom update? Samsung will give new rom update to improve their performance or not?
3. inside the package seem not include the stylus and pouch. at samsung webpage indicate that is an optional.
4. how good is Marvell PXA300 series processor? Stable or not? Fast enough or not to handle such a bulky 3d software.
Samsung Omnia (i-900)
I just got the Omnia here in Singapore and so far, its great! You can turn off most of the "fancy" (but not so useful features to me) iPhone like features and you get a great WM6.1 device with 16GB storage (+ I can add another 8GB micro SD). The battery life is good and I can swap batteries if I need to. The camera is 5MP, with flash and the video is good.
For those of you interested, here's a good review of the Omnia:
http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles/view.php?id=2606&cid=24&pg=1
Cheers!
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3. inside the package seem not include the stylus and pouch. at samsung webpage indicate that is an optional.
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I just went to a samsung roadshow in singapore yesterday
and i tried out the i900 there.
The lady told me the stylus is included in the package.
however it is nt like normal PDA phones where the stylus can be kept
'in' the phone itself. i900's stylus is hung outside like an accessory.
5 megapixel camera but doesn't seem to take photos like a 5 megapixel camera should. nokia's n95's camera seems better.
anyway, placed an order as the stock ran out by the time i got there.
How much you got it in Sing Dollar?
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How much you got it in Sing Dollar?
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it will be $498 with a 2 year line contract with Starhub in Singapore.
luckily i have a $200 voucher and a phone to trade-in..
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I just got the Omnia here in Singapore and so far, its great! You can turn off most of the "fancy" (but not so useful features to me) iPhone like features and you get a great WM6.1 device with 16GB storage (+ I can add another 8GB micro SD). The battery life is good and I can swap batteries if I need to. The camera is 5MP, with flash and the video is good.
For those of you interested, here's a good review of the Omnia:
http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles/view.php?id=2606&cid=24&pg=1
Cheers!
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Thanks for posting the review! I really like it. The only deal breaker now is the $1000+ (US dollars?) price tag. With the falling value of the US Dollar, that's a hefty price to pay for a phone (those included features are great). 2 year contract for $500? I hope. But there's still the Touch Pro.
Hea-to-head Review
Here's a direct review of both phones plus side-by-side photos:
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_touch_diamond_vs_samsung_i900_omnia-review-262.php
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Here's a direct review of both phones plus side-by-side photos:
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_touch_diamond_vs_samsung_i900_omnia-review-262.php
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Excellent review. Seems unbiased and balanced, although, until someone has both handsets you can never be sure.
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http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles/view.php?id=2606&cid=24&pg=1
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Connectivity: GPS with Navigation
Bluetooth 2.0 with A2DP support
USB 2.0
Wi-Fi
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MS Office Document Viewer, Advanced PIM Apps,
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Dont think anyone in there right mind would call google maps "Navigation"? Also, MS Office VIEWER!? Reviews inaccurate from page one, not going to bother reading the rest.
After using my G900 (800 x 480) mobile for a year now, I can't say that High res screens float my boat. They are a massive drain on the battery and factoring in the physical size of the screen, really not that usefull in my opinion. Its seems to me like having a 1080p 32" tv, good in principle but unless its 46", you really don't see the full benefit.
I think i'm still looking at an I900 .... now if only they were in the shops in the UK!!!!!
p.s. Anyone from Singapore wana stick one on Ebay?
What do you think? Prices are unimportant.
It would be nice if you can tell us why
I think the best windows phone always depends on your personal needs. I choose a HTC 7 Pro, because I needed a device with a physical keyboard, as I'm often using the office app and the email functionality.
So I bought it directly when it came out and I'm still very pleased with my descision. As there was only the Dell Venue Pro with a keyboard on sale, I choose HTC, because I had allready several phones produced by them and I loved all of them. The only thing I miss is a microSD reader.
The 7 Pro would be the best if it has a larger screen and better landscape support :/
Wtf where is the LG quantum?
The Omnia7 is a great piece of HW for that price. I just also cant live without physical KB and got the HTC 7 Pro.
Why i decided the HTC over the Dell is that Dell is pretty bulky and also note that dells keyboard does not have directional keys. When i had the Omnia 7 it was a pita when trying to go back to some specific place in a text...
As for the not so good support of landscape in WP7 its not a problem. The places where I use the KB most landscape works... Like now writing this!
Also unlocked bootloaders is a thing that made me go towards HTC.
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Wtf where is the LG quantum?
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Sorry, forgotten.
It isnt aviable in Europe, so...
Can any mod apply that phone to the poll?
Another problem of the Pro ia that it has only 8GB in the Europe version -.-
I love my HD7, but I love big screens. I use my phone 24/7, literally, it monitors my sleep lol... The battery isn't as good as some of the smaller screens, and HTC batteries suck, but you need to get a phone that suits your preferences.
HTC has problems with quality these past few years.. Not jst on wp7/wm6, bt android too..
I'll go for LG.. Easiest way to developer unlock via its mfg menu..
Sent from my LG Optimus 7
I don't actually own an Windows Phone, but I'll swap my LG 2X to a DVP. I think, that's the best Windows Phone, it has an 4.1" AMOLED Screen, a physical keyboard, it's cool looking...
But the Omnia 7 is really good too. Super AMOLED is quite better than AMOLED, and it has an metal body... thats nice
Hands down the dell venue pro. I own all of them but for battery life, functionality, quality, and pretty much everything that matters the dell venue pro. It was ergonomically designed in every sense to be form-fitted to the hand, the screen has a slight curvature unseen elsewhere, its the only windows phone without physical buttons that I dont accidentally hit the back button on, and lets face it, no other looks near as cool. The weight took some getting used to, its just slightly heavier than the hd7 but the weight is my only complaint.
The battery on the HD7 sucks, yes, but that's the least of its problems.
My main issue is that it's a terrible PHONE. The reception/signal strength is terrible.
If you're on WiFI a lot and want a bit screen, it's a great phone. WiFi will save some battey over a 3G connection given the quality of the radio in the phone.
If you want a phone that actually functions very well as a phone, I'd look into something else. Maybe the Focus. Samsung phones tend to have very good signal strength. At least my Vibrant does, but it may have a different radio /shrug. The HD2 had poor reception as well. The HD7 is basically it's fraternal twin brother.
Also, I'd try my best to get an unlocked/unbranded phone because Microsoft is making us do the carrier dance, Sadly.
HD7
Pros:
Large screen
Good call quality (Sounds nice & clear)
Good signal strength (I get 3G+ reception up in the mountains of Burbank, CA & Burbank refuses to allow cell provider to put up new towers)
Nice build quality, feels nice in the hand
Kick Stand for media viewing
Hackability (Same goes for all HTC's as we have R/HSPL)
Cons:
Battery
Poor speaker volume/quality
LCD is nice but nothing compared to Super AMOLED & SAMOLED+
Some complain about the hardware buttons, personally I like them
The capacitive buttons are too close to the LCD (prone to accidently hitting one while holding the device)
I owned the HTC HD7, the HTC Mozart, the LG Optimus 7 and the Omnia 7. So I think I can give a fair point of view.
In my opinion:
* the best is LG Optimus 7:
Pros:
16GB storage, nice battery life, DLNA, great augmented reality apps, speech to text, physical buttons (I hate capacitive buttons)
cons:
Ugly design, too much plastic, heavy weight, mediocre screen and camera, bad image of LG
* Followed by HTC Mozart:
Pros:
Very well balanced phone, HTC apps, aluminium body, 8MP camera, battery life is ok, speakers are of good quality.
cons:
8GB storage only, no HTC flashlight, no DLNA, screen a little bit small.
* Followed by Omnia 7:
Pros:
Wonderful elegant design, great S-Amoled screen
cons:
8GB storage only (at least in my country), very limited number of Samsung apps, no DLNA, a lot of annoying bugs that ruin the overall experience.
* In my opinion the HD7 is the worst.
Pros:
Screen size, kick stand, HTC apps, good call quality
cons:
Terrible screen resolution, horrible battery life, boring design, no DLNA, mediocre camera, mediocre 8GB storage only, terrible speakers (my God)...
I was surprised to discover that I really enjoy using the HTC Mozart and finally hated the HD7 (even if my previous phone was a HD2).
At first sight I fell in love with the Omnia 7 but was finally disappointing on a daily basis...
I have the Omnia 7 and all I can say is that it has terrible call quality and reception-issues.
Otherwise I love it.
By the looks of things there are no good WP7 phones available.
Lets hope Nokia can set things straight.
nizzon said:
By the looks of things there are no good WP7 phones available.
Lets hope Nokia can set things straight.
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This is true unfortunately...
Our WP7 devices are really underpowered, with poor storage.
MS shall really increase the minimum specifications now.
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This is true unfortunately...
Our WP7 devices are really underpowered, with poor storage.
MS shall really increase the minimum specifications now.
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I think, only Android and Bada/WM6 really needs dual core, 1GB RAM and some more, because the software isn't really good adapted on the devices.
On WP7, it is.
So for WP7-devices is a 1 year old Snapdragon enough - because they all have the same and Microsoft can easily adapt their OS on the hardware, and everything is running smooth.
On Android, it looks like the devices are requiring an Tegra2 or Exynos to run as good as WP7-devices.
Waste of power, just my opinion. Or do you want to tell your friends, how many cores your phone got?
Lower hardware specs make the devices much cheaper, you can see it on the Omnia7. Only 199€ in Europe.
But with the storage-thing I agree with you. It is really annoying, to have to buy a new phone if the storage is full and you want to save more music and apps on it, otherwise you only need to buy a new SD card...
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arturobandini my omnia 7 has 16gb with 14.5gb available so that is not true
also i don't suffer from poor call quality, its crystal clear.
the only things i don't like about it
1. battery life could be better (its 50%) of how long my iphone 4 battery could last
2. not very ergonomic, don't understand the fascination of big phones that need 2 hands to compose a message
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I think, only Android and Bada/WM6 really needs dual core, 1GB RAM and some more, because the software isn't really good adapted on the devices.
On WP7, it is.
So for WP7-devices is a 1 year old Snapdragon enough - because they all have the same and Microsoft can easily adapt their OS on the hardware, and everything is running smooth.
On Android, it looks like the devices are requiring an Tegra2 or Exynos to run as good as WP7-devices.
Waste of power, just my opinion. Or do you want to tell your friends, how many cores your phone got?
Lower hardware specs make the devices much cheaper, you can see it on the Omnia7. Only 199€ in Europe.
But with the storage-thing I agree with you. It is really annoying, to have to buy a new phone if the storage is full and you want to save more music and apps on it, otherwise you only need to buy a new SD card...
Enough OT now
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I dont really care about dual core.
I want...
SAMOLED (or something equal in blacks)
Good reception and good call quality
at least 16gb storage
Good buildquality
Hardware homebutton
Is that too much to ask? It looks like it.
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arturobandini my omnia 7 has 16gb with 14.5gb available so that is not true
also i don't suffer from poor call quality, its crystal clear.
the only things i don't like about it
1. battery life could be better (its 50%) of how long my iphone 4 battery could last
2. not very ergonomic, don't understand the fascination of big phones that need 2 hands to compose a message
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Hello SicilianTony,
In my country the Omnia 7 is only available with 8GB unfortunately...
That's a shame.
Regarding call quality, I suppose I have been unlucky with my device in particular. Accrdingly I will modify my previous comment in order to give the most objective and fair review possible.
Hi everyone!
Edit: The camera and camcorder response / accessing time is also 5 and 4 times higher than another Android device.
This tablet comes Full HD display, utilizing nvidia's 40nm processor technology (SoC).
The current IC fabrication technology is 22nm, 28nm and 32nm which is considerably more efficient than 40nm in terms of processing power.
I noticed on the first day of receiving this tablet I was overwhelmed by its full HD display, for this tablet being a high-end product.
When I look at the image captured by the camera I was somewhat not surprised by the image quality of the camera.
It has been one of the main features which was talked about in the launch / promotional video of the TF Infinity.
Where it talked about a 5th lens that adds on a superior quality but I don't see that quality. There are couple of problems with the camera.
1. The well known focus clicking problem in video mode (auto focus is unavailable in video mode).
2. The image captured in a room with fluorescent lighting has a refresh rate problem (with horizontal bars across the image).
3. The zoom feature worked fine but somehow the preview which shown on the screen isn't, the live preview is low resolution and produce undesirable sharp blocks (which is just as annoying as using a low ended product).
The camera software is primitive and is lacking lots of the standard features of a camera.
But I'd expect much more quality from them and nevertheless to say it is pretty unexpected to see the full HD display while still leaving lots of blanks for the critics to fill up (wondering why the reviewers never mentioned the negative points on the tablet) and usability problems which its users faces.
A lot of people probably don't care about the camera but hey this tablet isn't cheap to start with and it's made by a reputable brand name in the technology industry (& they don't make Cameras...).
If you watch the live preview closely, you can actually see the horizontal bars moving down the screen (just like the refresh rate of the good old analog TV).
Is there any experts with cameras who can tell me how do you capture an image without the presence of the horizontal bars?
Is this tablet with high-end specification and without quality?
But if you are just an average user; Do you still get really annoying about all of the problems on the tablet?
*# One other thing which is rather inconsistent, I noticed is the file modified date in the recently released FW updates "*_epad-user-9.4.5.22.zip", all of the files within it are dated with 22/3/2011 11:21AM. And the zipped file within "*_epad-user_9_4_5_22_UpdateLauncher.zip" are dated 15/6/2012 and this update was only uploaded a few days ago!
I remember my phone originally had a lot of issues with camera...it ended up being software. I tried Camera Zoom FX, and the pictures started to come out quite a lot better. LGCamera works great as well, and also has a video mode. Try those, that might increase your picture quality and also gives you a lot more control over pictures.
As good as the camera was built up by Asus, its still a tablet camera. Tablet cameras have a reputation for being kinda crap.
But I agree with KilerG's post. Try other camera software and see if that helps. Or perhaps try turning down the resolution.
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As good as the camera was built up by Asus, its still a tablet camera. Tablet cameras have a reputation for being kinda crap.
But I agree with KilerG's post. Try other camera software and see if that helps. Or perhaps try turning down the resolution.
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I wasn't expecting to become a professional photographer with this tablet, much less shoot my next great film on it (even though if I did, that would be hilarious). I probably won't spend a lot of time using the camera, and when I do, I think that's it's adequate for what it is...a tablet camera.
Remember how Apple talks up their camera? It still doesn't take the most amazing photos, especially on the iPad (well they talk up everything that is basically worthless, so maybe that's a bad example). I can get a better picture from a Samsung or HTC phone 9 times out of 10 than on a fruit device.
KilerG said:
I wasn't expecting to become a professional photographer with this tablet, much less shoot my next great film on it (even though if I did, that would be hilarious). I probably won't spend a lot of time using the camera, and when I do, I think that's it's adequate for what it is...a tablet camera.
Remember how Apple talks up their camera? It still doesn't take the most amazing photos, especially on the iPad (well they talk up everything that is basically worthless, so maybe that's a bad example). I can get a better picture from a Samsung or HTC phone 9 times out of 10 than on a fruit device.
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So; I guess you didn't buy a tablet because of its camera, but you see the point of having a camera on the tablet is to make life easy and fun.
It should be expected of from a tablet, various components of the tablet works but its not perfect, why? Maybe the manufacturer can answer the question.
Redefined301 said:
So; I guess you didn't buy a tablet because of its camera, but you see the point of having a camera on the tablet is to make life easy and fun.
It should be expected of from a tablet, various components of the tablet works but its not perfect, why? Maybe the manufacturer can answer the question.
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This is maybe philosophical.
Being the best does not infer perfection.
Ahhh, but I too would prefer perfection. Those cameras cost 10's of thousands and almost require a degree to operate. For 500 bucks and a ton of more relevant things it does I am happy with the best of crap.
So to speak.
Lets just hope for the best of apps to get us home.
+1 for Camera ZoomFX. One of the first apps i install on my devices.
timrock said:
+1 for Camera ZoomFX. One of the first apps i install on my devices.
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The quality remains the same as the horizontal bars are still present in the still image.
I took this picture today and it seemed to come out perfectly fine. There were no lights on and it was starting to get dark. My phone's camera would have taken an incredibly grainy picture, but this seemed to work just fine.
That's. My grandpa and great uncle if you were wondering. I'm visiting my grandparents and great uncle currently
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I might be trading my HTC One S for an HTC 8X do you think this is a good deal and what are the pros and cons to each device? any tips? thanks
justin11141 said:
I might be trading my HTC One S for an HTC 8X do you think this is a good deal and what are the pros and cons to each device? any tips? thanks
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I had the HTC HD7 for 6 months... I tried to like the windows phone OS, but I eventually felt it to be way to "constricting" I couldn't modify it, and at the time there weren't too many apps for it. It's a quick operating system, but it doesn't seem like it's as powerful as the android platform.
I don't know much about the 8X, the hardware may be better than the OneS (I haven't looked into it), but I have to say the OS is just not mature enough to compete with Android, iOS, or even RIM's OS
that's just my 2cents
I happened to have played with the 8X and have One S.
The first thing you need to ask yourself before the switch is if you need any of the apps on your android phone. Remember that Windows Phone is still relatively new OS and there are still tons of apps missing or not working well. If you think that you can survive with the limited apps support then you can decide if you want to switch. One of the biggest issue I have with WP8 is not much google voice support and since I use GV as my only text, it is hard for me to stay on it. (granted you can use email option and/or other third party software but just not as great)
One thing that I personally do not like about WP8 is the notification LED light that only blinks a few seconds after a missed call/sms, etc but does not stay on. So you always have to turn the device on to see anything.
My biggest recommendation is first do a bit read on the pro/con on the WP8 since you are looking to swtich between the platform so you need to know what you are getting yoruself into. Things like Goggle service like Maps, turn by turn navigatin, customizatoin etc are missing on the 8X
Overall, the 8X is great WP8 phone and probably one of the best build out there for WP8. The phone has great camera, especially front camera compare to our One S, much higher res and takes much better image. The One S and 8X have same rear camera but I think one S has more feature due to the software (since WP8 does not offer you much software).
build quality, both phones are great, I like the soft rubber feel of 8X but I personally prefer One S's metalic body as it feel more durable and premium. The rounded corner also feels a bit better. The 8X button is a bit hard to press due to it's flushed against the body.
a few other differences/comments
One S has FM but 8X does not
both has no removable batter and no expandable battery so both comes with 16GB storage and on 8X, you get like 13 or 14gb for free (I think a bit mroe than 8X)
8X has a better screen due to higher res and use of LCD as oppose to SAMOLED. It can appears to be a bit washed out if you are used to SAMOLED but it's more natural color.
Both phones are great, but I wouldn't necessarily trade your HTC One S for the HTC 8X.
This is what I can think of at the moment:
Pros:
Higher Resolution Screen on the 8X (1280 x 720 vs 960 x 540)
Higher PPI
Higher res front-facing camera 2.1MP vs VGA (.3MP)
Rubberized grip has a unique feel
Windows OS is very easy to use
OS Integrates very well with Microsoft services (Xbox Live, Hotmail, Skydrive, etc.)
Has search features that are integrated for QR code scanning and photo search
Cons:
LCD2 Screen isn't as vibrant as the Super AMOLED display on the One S
Windows 8 OS has a limited app market
Windows 8 OS doesn't really allow customization - for instance keyboards, widgets, etc.
Overal more restrictive OS environment
The 8X feels a bit uncomfortable to me with the sharp edges
What is your opinion is it worth of price? Do I buy it or go for note 3/4?
Both are great
I have both phones and I like each phone for different reasons. I really like the sleekness and the larger screen on the Mate 7 and it works great on T Mobile. Outdoors the screen could be brighter though. For travel purposes I would probably default to the Note 4 because it has a better camera and shoots 4K video. And I really have always liked the built in pen capabilities of the Note series. I hear Huawei may be announcing the Mate 8 soon (March?) which might be worth checking out but might also lower the price on the Mate 7. For the last couple of weeks I have been using the Mate 7 exclusively and knowing what I know now I might be hard pressed to spend $700+ on the Note 4. I happened to have been in Cambodia when the Mate 7 was first released and bought it for $470 with case. I use a 128GB SD card in it with no problems. I find the speaker on the Mate 7 to be louder than the Note 4 which I really like when walking near traffic.
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@bkkcnxsi Thx for replay. I heard from some people that huawei generaly have tehnical hardware problems and after few months of using visiting service is necessary. This serie of "Mate 7" does not have that problems?
93boba said:
@bkkcnxsi Thx for replay. I heard from some people that huawei generaly have tehnical hardware problems and after few months of using visiting service is necessary. This serie of "Mate 7" does not have that problems?
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Hardware is okay, software is crap. Big screen, but less data on it than on a cheapie Nexus 5. Huawei just made all the graphics and text super huge so you have a massive phone to carry in your pocket for zero benefit. Made for 80-year-old grandmas with vision problems, I guess.
I personally like my AM7, in order of most recently owned phones, I've had: LG G3 -> Sony Xperia Z1 -> Nexus 5 -> Galaxy Note 3, so my experiences come from owning those phones.
The is the best phone I've owned in a few aspects: 1) battery life; 2) build quality; 3) ergonomics; 4) hardware.
Battery life speaks for itself, as I've consistently had 6 hours of on screen time (note: I use Xposed with Greenify, and GPS usually off and at 65-75% brightness). Simply put: it's a complete monster of a phone in terms of battery life.
The build quality is simply staggering as there aren't many Android phones out there that can compete. The quality speaks for itself, as the only phone that can compare to it is the HTC One M8.
Ergonomics - the button placement is great, especially for the size of the phone. There's a minimal amount of bezels too, which means the phone's screen real estate is huge. The LG G3's take on button placement was nearly perfect, and Huawei took advantage of this by placing the fingerprint scanner right where your index finger naturally lays.
Hardware - fingerprint scanner, octacore processor, 'nuff said.
Cons: software, software, software, camera, software.
This phone's software is cumbersome at times. It has moments of brilliance, but is overall not great. I'm currently running Nova launcher to replace the ghastly stock launcher. But certain aspects of the stock theme cannot be replaced by Xposed apps and what not. Things include: inability to remove the alarm clock from the notification bar, pull down menus, recent apps layout, etc.Hopefully, Lolipop will fix a few of these issues.
Overall, the phone is spectacular. There's always going to be something better in the market in 4-5 months, but I can see myself living with this phone for a while, but it all depends on when we get 5.0 and if at least a few of the software issues are resolved.
To be fair not a single smartphone is manufactured yet which is totally perfect. Take any phone and go to their forum and see what people are complaining.
In my opinion this is the best phone I ever saw. The most important thing for me is the battery life. It gives me easily 9 to 10 hours of screen time which is more than sufficient for me. I don't think that there is any other phone in the market giving you this much screen on time. All this time wifi is on and surfing the net plus Facebook and Facebook videos...
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93boba said:
What is your opinion is it worth of price? Do I buy it or go for note 3/4?
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It depends on what you looking for. If you want concern battery, screen side , two sim card . Mate 7 will be a good choice. If you concern the cpu speed , and camera ,you should note 4. I buy Mate 7 , because it have 6 mon and can support 4g in hong kong and china. Not much choice can meet my requirements , finally I choose Mate 7
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