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Just when I start liking the G-Tablet, my Archos 101 is scheduled to arrive Saturday!

Well, I knew this day would come, as I originally bought the G-Tablet as a hold-me-over until Archos got themselves together on the 101. And now it's here. I'll probably keep them both until my return date comes up on the G-Tablet. But, I can't see returning the Archos device.
Decisions, Decisions!

lol.. wow. Me to, I ordered the second it was up, and did 2 day. So mine should be coming saturday also. Maybe?
did you order Yesterday on Archos.com when the 101 went up for sale? and do 2 day shipping. My tracking number I have already, but it's not in UPS system yet

Did you guys consider you might prefer the g tablet? Remember archos 101 will probably never see gingerbread, and the tegra2 will have honeycomb support. The ui is probably better with the archos...for now. Just have to weigh the pros and cons. However there are a few features the 101 has that are nice, like hdmi and the kickstand.
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Please post a comparison after you have both. I'm sure many people are trying to make the same decisions as you. In particular can you post about the viewing angle and how laggy the tablet is?

xguntherc said:
lol.. wow. Me to, I ordered the second it was up, and did 2 day. So mine should be coming saturday also. Maybe?
did you order Yesterday on Archos.com when the 101 went up for sale? and do 2 day shipping. My tracking number I have already, but it's not in UPS system yet
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Yeah! LOL! I Got it yesterday with 2-day shipping . . . So, let me rephrase: I HOPE it gets here Saturday, waiting on the UPS update too.
I'll report back after playing with both. But right now I'm on a usb keyboard/case & a bluetooth mouse and loving this thing!

Crimton, you say that cuz of Archos bad update procedure in the past right. They've mentioned they need to and will improve that. Just like the Archos 101 was released with 2.1 in UK, and getting 2.2 in the next 2 weeks. End of November. They also said they will do future updates on these newer, better tablets. but we will see. Just like Samsung, they have a terrible track record.
I'm not buying the 101 for Gingerbread. I'm buying it for a cheap, low cost tablet to enjoy for the next few months. and in Feb, or March I'll get a 2.3 or 3.0 HTC or Moto tablet that will be feature complete and more of a tablet experience. Since 2.2 really isn't fully there yet. And what do you mean the tegra will have gingerbread support. because LG, and Moto are releasing Tegra 2 phones in Q1. Yea your right. but by then i'll be getting something better I'm sure.

Crimton said:
Did you guys consider you might prefer the g tablet? Remember archos 101 will probably never see gingerbread, and the tegra2 will have gingerbread support. The ui is probably better with the archos...for now. Just have to weigh the pros and cons. However there are a few features the 101 has that are nice, like hdmi and the kickstand.
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You may be correct. But, I'm not so concerned with Gingerbread right now, just the 2.2 upgrade later this month. There's no telling when the HDMI/hybrid cable will make it stateside from China for the Viewsonic. And, if they haven't fixed all the crap we've had to wade through on this forum to get this thing remotely close to passable by Black Friday sales, Viewsonic will be toast. LOL!
Can you imagine the everyday consumer turning this thing on to see what we saw with the TNT & no Flash Returns with be en masse!!!

Yup, black friday will be a disaster with no market, or flash like the box says. but yea.. Anyways I have a few things i don't like about the G-tablet. and I'm not really banking on Viewsonic fixing software much.
There's some great dev's here though, doing some good things. I'm sure it will be smooth as butter very soon. The media aspects of Archos sold me, the HDMI out, it's coded for some serious media handling and playback. I'll be using it to my TV often also. That and the kickstand, and the entire top isn't glass so it wont break as easy if dropped. No fingerprints on the entire top like the G. and I wont accidentally hit the soft keys all day long.
Anyways. my UPS is showing up now
Anyone know how I can pull the TnT keyboard n use on the Archos 101?

xguntherc said:
Yup, black friday will be a disaster with no market, or flash like the box says. but yea.. Anyways I have a few things i don't like about the G-tablet. and I'm not really banking on Viewsonic fixing software much.
There's some great dev's here though, doing some good things. I'm sure it will be smooth as butter very soon. The media aspects of Archos sold me, the HDMI out, it's coded for some serious media stuff. I'll be using it to my TV often also. That and the kickstand, and the entire top isn't glass so it wont break as easy if dropped. No fingerprints on the entire top like the G. and I wont accidentally hit the soft keys all day long.
Anyways. my UPS is showing up now
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Agreed al round!!
What's your delivery date???

I'd also like to hear a comparison between the two, if you have the time (I had pre-ordered the 101 until the Gtab showed up in my sites). I'm hearing mixed reviews on the LCD and I'm curious if it has the same viewing angle issues.
And if you could do a dump of /system, that would be awesome. I'd love to be able to port their media player over to the GTab.

MY delivery date isn't up yet, but UPS is showing Signature Confirmation Required. I work tomorrow and monday. damnit. I better have someone around to get it.
Yes beet, i will do whatever you need.. I saw a few video's of the 101 and 70 in action, and those video's alone the viewing angles seemed better than the G. My own video shows how bad the angles can be. That is why that video made me think otherwise.. Oh and there's a very good file manager that i think the 101 and 70 has. but I'm not sure. I also read rageinthecage gives temp root on the Archos. So we can temp root, do a titanium backup or what not if needed. but thats unconfirmed.

roebeet said:
I'd also like to hear a comparison between the two, if you have the time (I had pre-ordered the 101 until the Gtab showed up in my sites). I'm hearing mixed reviews on the LCD and I'm curious if it has the same viewing angle issues.
And if you could do a dump of /system, that would be awesome. I'd love to be able to port their media player over to the GTab.
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You may be correct. But, I'm not so concerned with Gingerbread right now, just the 2.2 upgrade later this month. There's no telling when the HDMI/hybrid cable will make it stateside from China for the Viewsonic. And, if they haven't fixed all the crap we've had to wade through on this forum to get this thing remotely close to passable by Black Friday sales, Viewsonic will be toast. LOL!
Can you imagine the everyday consumer turning this thing on to see what we saw with the TNT & no Flash Returns with be en masse!!!
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a combination of the two would be ideal. once we get the official hdmi dock that will eliminate the need for the kickstand and the hdmi port. i just hope that viewsonic is gonna get some updates out to us quick. i know what you're saying about not being worried about gingerbread right now(however i believe i meant honeycomb, tablets will be shipping with it soon http://androidandme.com/2010/11/tab...th-tegra-2-could-arrive-as-early-as-february/) but i also do not want a device that will be outdated soon after i buy it. i would love to see a comparison of the 2 though while you have them both.

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Crimton, you say that cuz of Archos bad update procedure in the past right. They've mentioned they need to and will improve that. Just like the Archos 101 was released with 2.1 in UK, and getting 2.2 in the next 2 weeks. End of November. They also said they will do future updates on these newer, better tablets. but we will see. Just like Samsung, they have a terrible track record.
I'm not buying the 101 for Gingerbread. I'm buying it for a cheap, low cost tablet to enjoy for the next few months. and in Feb, or March I'll get a 2.3 or 3.0 HTC or Moto tablet that will be feature complete and more of a tablet experience. Since 2.2 really isn't fully there yet. And what do you mean the tegra will have gingerbread support. because LG, and Moto are releasing Tegra 2 phones in Q1. Yea your right. but by then i'll be getting something better I'm sure.
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i agree, i am really looking towards an htc tablet as well. also i meant to say honeycomb not gingerbread(see link above), i believe that is whats supposed to be optimized for tablets. but when the htc tablets start rolling out my wife or daughter gets the g and i will get a new htc

Crimton said:
i agree, i am really looking towards an htc tablet as well. also i meant to say honeycomb not gingerbread(see link above), i believe that is whats supposed to be optimized for tablets. but when the htc tablets start rolling out my wife or daughter gets the g and i will get a new htc
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I'm right there with you dude! If/when that HTC tablet hits, my daughter gets a hand-me-down! LOL!

xguntherc said:
MY delivery date isn't up yet, but UPS is showing Signature Confirmation Required. I work tomorrow and monday. damnit. I better have someone around to get it.
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Same here:
Tracking Detail
Billing information has been sent to UPS. Check site later for updated shipment status or contact shipper for more details.
Tracking Information
Tracking Number: 1ZXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Status: Billing Information Received
Shipped To: GLEN ALLEN, VA, US
Shipped/Billed On: 11/19/2010
Type: Package
Service: NEXT DAY AIR
Special Instructions: SIGNATURE REQUIRED
Weight: 3.50 Lbs

aamon17 said:
I'm right there with you dude! If/when that HTC tablet hits, my daughter gets a hand-me-down! LOL!
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right and if everything goes right it should be just around tax return time ;-)

I am interested to know the plug-in comes with 101. I owned 2 of Archos 605 wifi devices. Archos charge for every plug-in. FOr example, DVD Mpeg2 play back, Web browser, Cinema plug-in. All plug-ins cost me almost same as the device. SPecially, the plug-ins are serial number specific, I can't reuse the same plug-in in the other one device I own. I am so curious to see what included in the price. As I saw the plug-in is downloadable but is option. Just my experience.

Crimton said:
Did you guys consider you might prefer the g tablet? Remember archos 101 will probably never see gingerbread, and the tegra2 will have honeycomb support. The ui is probably better with the archos...for now. Just have to weigh the pros and cons. However there are a few features the 101 has that are nice, like hdmi and the kickstand.
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Agreed. Flash performance, game emulators and Quake already play far better on the G-Tablet.
Out of box though, the 101 is better (obviously).
Tinker types = Gtablet

Ugghhh! UPS updated. My device will be here Monday not tomorrow. :-(

Archos, ZPad(GTablet) and Toshiba are compared in this forum post. Interesting things regarding their selection of LCD screens and comparison of multitouch capabilities, viewing angles. Interesting read.
http://www.hkepc.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=1521745&extra=page=2

best tablet?

hey guys i recently bought the Viewsonic G Tablet, and i'm probably gonna take it back as i am not entirely pleased with it's performance, i was wondering what you guys think is the best tablet out there right now, excluding the Ipad, as i am not down with apple! thanks guys, and if there is a thread already dedicated to this topic i am sorry, the search function would not work for me. any and all input is greatly appreciated.

vballrkc said:
hey guys i recently bought the Viewsonic G Tablet, and i'm probably gonna take it back as i am not entirely pleased with it's performance, i was wondering what you guys think is the best tablet out there right now, excluding the Ipad, as i am not down with apple! thanks guys, and if there is a thread already dedicated to this topic i am sorry, the search function would not work for me. any and all input is greatly appreciated.
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Whats wrong with the gtablet? Did you try installing a custom rom on it like CM? I'm actually planning on getting the gtablet because I think its the best thing out there right now for the price.

well it's nice don't get me wrong, but before i invest permanently in this device i just want to make sure there isn't anything better out there. I would like to own a device with a little more developemnt on it already, I'm not sure if i'm expecting to much, but like i said, just want to make sure, i like to "test drive" multiple devices before making a commitment. yes i've tried the tnt lite and the vegan.

The xoom that is coming out looks to be very good, but might be expensive. The asus tablets also look promising. I have heard good things about the Adam but its hard to get and thus expensive. If you like 7inch screens the nook color has a great dev team but the hardware is very low end.

If I was u I'd rather take it back and wait till the Xoom comes out. I have sold my Gtab last week as I am saving money for the Xoom

yeah the xoom looks amazing but 1: I refuse to pay a monthly data plan for a tablet when i already have one for my phone, that's dumb. and 2: I read that the xoom will be $800 and I also believe that that is dumb, i really don't want to pay more then right around $400....

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i think acer is a good choice , and the price of it is lower than others
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i havent seen acer tabs, even on their website.
got links?

i looked all last night for options
the xoom looks ok, but like people said - no wifi only and 800$??!?! wtf??
adam looks alright.. but its running 2.2.... i dont just want a bigger phone
so i searched around and looked at the asus ones coming out. and i think that is where my cash is going to go.
http://reviews.cnet.com/tablets/asus-eee-pad-slider/4505-3126_7-34467849.html

[Q] Moshi Monsters Anyone?

Hi, I'm considering a Xoom for my 10 y/o daughter as a christmas present, but I have a couple of questions.
The useage would be movies (from SD), music, and general surfing and android games (angy bird etc). What may be a deal breaker is the ability to use flash intensive web sites.
Currently she has a mac G5 1.6Ghz PowerPC that doesn't play at all nicely with flash intensive web sites, namely Moshimonsters.com and educationcity.com.
Although I'm new to Android, I'm not scared to root and try different roms if required (I've 'hackintoshed' my netbook so am familiar with the sweaty palms while waiting for the final reboot!).
This isn't a replacement for a desktop as the old G5 does just about everything she needs apart from the poor flash playback so if the Xoom would be capable of that it would be a win/win! I'm thinking that a Xoom is cheaper than a new desktop and seems like a great piece of equipment in it's own right for travel/sofa surfing.
So the question is do any of you have youngsters in the family that use the Xoom for moshimonsters.com and don't complain about it being laggy/slow?
Thanks in advance and sorry that the first post is a Q, but I have to start somewhere on my journey into the depths of Android and I have spent sveral days googling but finding no definitive answer!
All the best,
Ian

I tried both websites for you and they worked fine. Educationcity.com was snappier than the moshimonsters.com, but they both loaded fine and flash video downloaded and played fine.
I think she'll enjoy it.

Is there no escaping these bloody things, my 9 y/o and 3 y/o fight over them all the bloody time.... lol

okantomi said:
I tried both websites for you and they worked fine. Educationcity.com was snappier than the moshimonsters.com, but they both loaded fine and flash video downloaded and played fine.
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What service! Many thanks for taking the time to look at that for me.
Trig0r said:
Is there no escaping these bloody things, my 9 y/o and 3 y/o fight over them all the bloody time.... lol
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MM has over 50 million users now so no, there's no escape!
Just got to decide how long I wait now to see if prices drop even more before Christmas. Amazon now at £321 delivered for the UK wifi version.
Thanks both,
Ian

Have you looked at other devices or are you set on a Xoom?
Quick poke on google gives a few places under £300..

Trig0r said:
Have you looked at other devices or are you set on a Xoom?
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I'm not 100% set on the Xoom but I went to PC World and had a play with a few tablets and the solid feel of the Xoom along with the connectivity options and battery life make it my favourite so far.
The promise of ICS in the future is also appealing.
I'm very willing to hear suggestions for alternatives (in the UK), and my target price is around the £300 mark.
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Quick poke on google gives a few places under £300..
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I'll check out the pricing again but I'm a bit cautious when it comes to sellers that I'm not familiar with (stock is in China and it's not a UK model etc), thanks for taking the time to check and reply

I looked at the 7" A100, its a cut down version of the A500 but with the smaller screen and less storage, however still has the mSD slot so onboard space not so much of an issue. Ended up ordering the A500 instead mainly down to the screen size.
If you want ICS then you might want to have a look at a few other "Android Dev" forums on here, you can see what the popular devices are and that might influence your choices.
Yeah I'd rather get it from a known source but there seems to be some places selling for around the £270 mark, order it on a credit card or whatever card you have thats got some sort of protection on it, just incase, if all comes good then your saving yourself at least £50 which can be spent on screen protectors, sleeves, cases etc

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Ended up ordering the A500 instead mainly down to the screen size.
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I tried to get a feel for the A500 at PC World but the one in my local store wouldn't power up. I seem to be able to find the Xoom cheaper than the A500 right now?
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If you want ICS then you might want to have a look at a few other "Android Dev" forums on here, you can see what the popular devices are and that might influence your choices.
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I thought (although I may be completely wrong!), that there would be an official OTA release of ICS for Xoom? This may save me the headache of root, roms & kernels!
Thanks for all the input.

GSXR11 said:
I tried to get a feel for the A500 at PC World but the one in my local store wouldn't power up. I seem to be able to find the Xoom cheaper than the A500 right now?
I thought (although I may be completely wrong!), that there would be an official OTA release of ICS for Xoom? This may save me the headache of root, roms & kernels!
Thanks for all the input.
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There will be an official ICS release for the Xoom. IMHO, it is the best Android tab currently available, all things considered. Also, I have a Tegra2 7" tab and it's sweet and pretty snappy but it's just too small to be really useful. A 10" screen is much better. Put a nice comfortable and protective case on it that can also double as a stand, get one of the charging docks, and your kids are good to go.

for this planned use you may find a cheaper alternative to Xoom... How knows?
Best!
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Lenovo IdeaPad A2109

I'm thinking about picking up one of these tablets.. any idea if they've been rooted? Any custom roms?
Thanks
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834310536

Well I have one (in my signature), and there is no official root I know of. However, this device is very similar to Asus transformer infinity and also runs pics, which as an almost universal root tool somewhere (don't remember where to find it). I am hoping someone would be willing to test this on the a2109, as theres many things I wish for root with. As for roms, cwm will need to be made for this and, again, infinity pad may help. But in all honesty, this is so fast that I would be too concerned for roms. Theming would be nice though
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shirtlessrabbit4 said:
Well I have one (in my signature), and there is no official root I know of. However, this device is very similar to Asus transformer infinity and also runs pics, which as an almost universal root tool somewhere (don't remember where to find it). I am hoping someone would be willing to test this on the a2109, as theres many things I wish for root with. As for roms, cwm will need to be made for this and, again, infinity pad may help. But in all honesty, this is so fast that I would be too concerned for roms. Theming would be nice though
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Would love to post a link. Check the lenovo forums.
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joshag said:
I'm thinking about picking up one of these tablets.. any idea if they've been rooted? Any custom roms?
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A buy-it-now is on the auction site for $260, including shipping. Very slightly (obviously) used. I'm quite happy with mine.

GTabJosh said:
Would love to post a link. Check the lenovo forums.
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A buy-it-now is on the auction site for $260, including shipping. Very slightly (obviously) used. I'm quite happy with mine.
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Just bought one at Best Buy for 259.00 this thing is smooth and fast I'm impressed. The screen is its only down fall. Head on viewing is not that bad. Definitely worth the 259.00

rand33099 said:
Just bought one at Best Buy for 259.00 this thing is smooth and fast I'm impressed. The screen is its only down fall. Head on viewing is not that bad. Definitely worth the 259.00
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I totally agree the speed and smooth, I actually went in to get the ASUS TF300F, but when I held it was just too heavy. There are a few cons such as the camera and the lack of pretty much any accessories. I'd read on another forum that a guy got the Galaxy 8.9 case M-EDGE case for it, so I got the 14.99 one and it fits, though it is pretty tight, and doesn't close completely. It's close enough that I don't worry about anything scratching the screen. Also the way it folds does allow you to use the camera with ease and none of the buttons are covered. I've spent 4 hours searching for a case made specifically for the tablet and not even the MFG has one yet. They do have a picture of a smart cover, but it's nowhere on the site or anywhere else.
I think the people that make non OEM products have bought into the reviews slamming the tablet so much that they didn't decide to make anything for it, which is pretty sad. It's an awesome tablet for people on a budget and doesn't like the garden wall of the KF, lack of additional memory of both the KF and Nexus, and IMHO the specs are awesome. The salesperson did a bench mark test in store and was totally shocked at the rankings it ranked well above all the big name tablets, so at 259 I was definitely sold.
Speaking of the screen, I've viewed it at every angle that I use and there was no problem. I've previously owned the Toshiba Thrive 10.1 and this baby blows it out the water with ease. I kept my KF because trade in went down to 35.00 from 75.00 within a week.
Maybe with people giving positive feedback, more retailers will carry products for it.

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Speaking of the screen, I've viewed it at every angle that I use and there was no problem. I've previously owned the Toshiba Thrive 10.1 and this baby blows it out the water with ease. I kept my KF because trade in went down to 35.00 from 75.00 within a week.
Maybe with people giving positive feedback, more retailers will carry products for it.
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I've been posting reviews to every site I can think of, except Amazon. They still haven't gotten their **** together regarding the A2109 specs. Probably a campaign of FUD to sell their own products. Newegg, though, has very few reviews so far...

For those of you not on the Lenovo forums yet, there is now a dev ROM for the A2109. Right now we're at the point of having root, cwm, and a ROM free of bloatware and deodexed -- ready for some theming. Not like I've done any of the work -- by "we" I mean thanks to mcl we now have it.
Josh

Well, I took the Lenovo A2109 back to Best Buy today and swapped it for the ASUS TF300T 16GB for a 90.00 difference. They have the same specs under the hood based on a few quick searches on the web. Honestly I hated to do it, because I rather liked the A2109, but the screen kept doing these weird flashes. At first I thought it was something I was doing, but I googled it and it's a known issue. I decided that with the screen already being the only bad thing about the tab and then the flashing I'd just go with something else. Luckily BB had the 16GB ASUS in stock, since it wasn't there the last few times I checked.
There seems to be more support and accessories for the ASUS tab as well. I've not had the chance to test it yet because apparently you have to let it charge a couple of hours before you can use it. (Thought I'd have to make another trip to BB)
I'll update on my blog when I get some play time with it. Just before I took the A2109 back I ran AnTuTu and Vellamo tests on it for S&G and it ranked pretty high, so I want to see if the ASUS tab does the same thing.
I can't post any urls here as a new member, but there is a link to my blog on my profile. Just case anyone is interested.

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Well, I took the Lenovo A2109 back to Best Buy today and swapped it for the ASUS TF300T 16GB for a 90.00 difference. They have the same specs under the hood based on a few quick searches on the web. Honestly I hated to do it, because I rather liked the A2109, but the screen kept doing these weird flashes. At first I thought it was something I was doing, but I googled it and it's a known issue. I decided that with the screen already being the only bad thing about the tab and then the flashing I'd just go with something else. Luckily BB had the 16GB ASUS in stock, since it wasn't there the last few times I checked.
There seems to be more support and accessories for the ASUS tab as well. I've not had the chance to test it yet because apparently you have to let it charge a couple of hours before you can use it. (Thought I'd have to make another trip to BB)
I'll update on my blog when I get some play time with it. Just before I took the A2109 back I ran AnTuTu and Vellamo tests on it for S&G and it ranked pretty high, so I want to see if the ASUS tab does the same thing.
I can't post any urls here as a new member, but there is a link to my blog on my profile. Just case anyone is interested.
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$90 more? Ooooh... I'd ask for a refund and see how this turns out
Josh

Spec wise the Nook tab can't touch the ASUS or Lenovo. The only place it would be beat the Lenovo is the screen. Right now the ASUS is running stock JB and still out performing the Lenovo, which I bought for the specs in spite of the screen.
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geekygirl74 said:
Spec wise the Nook tab can't touch the ASUS or Lenovo. The only place it would be beat the Lenovo is the screen. Right now the ASUS is running stock JB and still out performing the Lenovo, which I bought for the specs in spite of the screen.
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Let me know how you like it.
Josh

Lenovo A2109 Rooted and CWM Recovery
joshag said:
I'm thinking about picking up one of these tablets.. any idea if they've been rooted? Any custom roms?
Thanks
Bought this tab probally about a month ago didn't see any rooting methods. I thought I would sit this one out for about a month and see what the devs have come up with. None of the work goes to me (I am just a noob) but I just thought I would share this link with you regarding this tablets develepment.
Because I am a noob I cannont post any links so you can view my profile to see the link
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bencox1 said:
joshag said:
I'm thinking about picking up one of these tablets.. any idea if they've been rooted? Any custom roms?
Thanks
Bought this tab probally about a month ago didn't see any rooting methods. I thought I would sit this one out for about a month and see what the devs have come up with. None of the work goes to me (I am just a noob) but I just thought I would share this link with you regarding this tablets develepment. Because I am a noob I can't post any links so you can view my profile to see the link
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There is considerable development on the ROM front on the Lenovo official forums. I can't link either because I'm a n00b too, but with just a simple google search using the model name bought it up.
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geekygirl74 said:
Well, I took the Lenovo A2109 back to Best Buy today and swapped it for the ASUS TF300T 16GB for a 90.00 difference. They have the same specs under the hood based on a few quick searches on the web. Honestly I hated to do it, because I rather liked the A2109, but the screen kept doing these weird flashes. At first I thought it was something I was doing, but I googled it and it's a known issue. I decided that with the screen already being the only bad thing about the tab and then the flashing I'd just go with something else. Luckily BB had the 16GB ASUS in stock, since it wasn't there the last few times I checked.
There seems to be more support and accessories for the ASUS tab as well. I've not had the chance to test it yet because apparently you have to let it charge a couple of hours before you can use it. (Thought I'd have to make another trip to BB)
I'll update on my blog when I get some play time with it. Just before I took the A2109 back I ran AnTuTu and Vellamo tests on it for S&G and it ranked pretty high, so I want to see if the ASUS tab does the same thing.
I can't post any urls here as a new member, but there is a link to my blog on my profile. Just case anyone is interested.
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Just picked one of these up tonight -- primarily for the family (non-techie wife & 2nd grade daughter). We've used it for a little over an hour and I'm already noticing random screen flashes. So far they're not anywhere near annoying enough to think about taking it back, but I'm keeping an eye on it. So far very, very pleased!

HaveAnEpiphany said:
Just picked one of these up tonight -- primarily for the family (non-techie wife & 2nd grade daughter). We've used it for a little over an hour and I'm already noticing random screen flashes. So far they're not anywhere near annoying enough to think about taking it back, but I'm keeping an eye on it. So far very, very pleased!
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Excellent! I have noticed the screen glitches myself, and they don't seem to become more frequent or serious over time, so I think what you see is what you will get. I suppose you notice them more when you are concentrating on it. Ordinarily a defect like this would drive me crazy, but for the price I'll overlook it!
Come on over to the Lenovo forums if you want to talk to a larger audience
Josh
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Excellent! I have noticed the screen glitches myself, and they don't seem to become more frequent or serious over time, so I think what you see is what you will get. I suppose you notice them more when you are concentrating on it. Ordinarily a defect like this would drive me crazy, but for the price I'll overlook it!
Come on over to the Lenovo forums if you want to talk to a larger audience
Josh
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That's good to know (that it doesn't seem to get worse). Is there a forum area focused on this device?

HaveAnEpiphany said:
That's good to know (that it doesn't seem to get worse). Is there a forum area focused on this device?
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The only forum so far is at Lenovo:
http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/IdeaPad-IdeaTab-Slate-Tablets/bd-p/Idea_Slate
There are multiple devices in this forum, not just the A2109. There's a reasonably active group of users over there tho.
Josh

I just wanted to come back let you know that the ASUS TF300 is indeed awesome. Even though the two tablets share most of the same specs, the ASUS tab seems to just fly and I have to admit the screen alone was well worth the additional money.
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geekygirl74 said:
I just wanted to come back let you know that the ASUS TF300 is indeed awesome. Even though the two tablets share most of the same specs, the ASUS tab seems to just fly and I have to admit the screen alone was well worth the additional money.
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Yeah? I'm jealous. Of course, at this point I'd be pre-ordering the Nexus 10 if I were willing to pay more than the $250 I shelled out for this guy. The one thing I would miss, tho, is the convenient size. I really like how easy it is to handle. The 10" on the Gtab were a little much for me. Rationalizations... But now I have an upgrade to look forward to -- after mcl & I get an overclocking kernel running
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Yeah? I'm jealous. Of course, at this point I'd be pre-ordering the Nexus 10 if I were willing to pay more than the $250 I shelled out for this guy. The one thing I would miss, tho, is the convenient size. I really like how easy it is to handle. The 10" on the Gtab were a little much for me. Rationalizations... But now I have an upgrade to look forward to -- after mcl & I get an overclocking kernel running
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I've been thinking about the Nexus 7 inch since the 16 GB model dropped to 199 to replace my KF. I still think 7 inches is the sweet spot for a portable tablet, and I'd also love to have the "true" Android experience with out MFG tweaks, but that will be after the New Year and who knows what will be available then. They seem to be introducing the next big thing every week now.:laugh:

[Q] Which ASUS tablet?

I'm looking to get an ASUS tablet but with all the different models I'm looking for input from you guys that are rooted and running custom roms.
I'm a cellphone guy and this will be my first tablet. I'm not looking to get some pile that I'm going to be pissed off about because I can't do this or that.
I don't really have a "need" since I'm just looking for something to hack on...(root, roms, customization, web browsing..running benchmarks because I like looking at the speed, OC'ing... ya know the normal nerd shiz.
The "tinkering" is what I like, probably the same as alot of you guys, just trying new things on it and that stuff...just like my S3.
I'm looking at the tf700t right now for $300 used. I can't really find the difference with the "t" specification on the end..?
Which model should i be interested in if this isn't the "one?"
Am I going to be happy with this, being able to root and flash roms?
Is this the one with the plastic piece/bezel on the top so the GPS actually works decent?
Are these speedy or are they piles of crap?
Is $300 a decent price?
Would you go with Google Nexus 10 instead?
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Is this the tf700t? removed
is that one above the same as this one?
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Hard to tell for me since I never handled these guys.
Well Thanks for your help, if you think I'm missing the boat here and should go with a different tablet, let me know. I like the ASUS look, but not set in stone on it. I see some people saying they regret buying their ASUS tab and wish they went with the Nexus10. I like the Nexus10 too.

The first one is not the same as the second, the first one was the model before called the transformer prime, that one was removed from stores within about 6 months. I advise you to stay away from that one. The one on the bottom is the transformer infinity the one that is the better one. I have mine rooted and unlocked with cleanrom 2.4 and clemsyns 1.9 kernal. Boy can I say that its a sweet device now, stock it was okay but now its amazing. I would totally get it with the price of 350$.
This tablet has some advantages over the nexus 10 too.
Transformer Infinity's (TF700T) Advantages:
It has a micro SD card slot.
It has a dock that you can always connect to for extra battery life along with more ports.
Development is stronger AT THE MOMENT for this tablet.
For 350$ you can get 32 gigs of storage.
Nexus 10s advantages:
Better processor inside.
Better screen resolution.
Better support from manufacturer.
Disadvantages:
No micro SD card slot.
No docking station that adds battery life.
400$ only gets you 16 gbs of memory.
Not a lot known about this tablet yet to judge how great it really is or can be.
Hope this helps you out a little.

apristel said:
I'm looking to get an ASUS tablet but with all the different models I'm looking for input from you guys that are rooted and running custom roms.
I'm a cellphone guy and this will be my first tablet. I'm not looking to get some pile that I'm going to be pissed off about because I can't do this or that.
I don't really have a "need" since I'm just looking for something to hack on...(root, roms, customization, web browsing..running benchmarks because I like looking at the speed, OC'ing... ya know the normal nerd shiz.
The "tinkering" is what I like, probably the same as alot of you guys, just trying new things on it and that stuff...just like my S3.
I'm looking at the tf700t right now for $300 used. I can't really find the difference with the "t" specification on the end..?
Which model should i be interested in if this isn't the "one?"
Am I going to be happy with this, being able to root and flash roms?
Is this the one with the plastic piece/bezel on the top so the GPS actually works decent?
Are these speedy or are they piles of crap?
Is $300 a decent price?
Would you go with Google Nexus 10 instead?
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Is this the tf700t? http://appleton.craigslist.org/ele/3320859999.html
is that one above the same as this one?
http://appleton.craigslist.org/ele/3396655643.html
Hard to tell for me since I never handled these guys.
Well Thanks for your help, if you think I'm missing the boat here and should go with a different tablet, let me know. I like the ASUS look, but not set in stone on it. I see some people saying they regret buying their ASUS tab and wish they went with the Nexus10. I like the Nexus10 too.
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That is not the infinity. That is the prime (tf201). And yes you will be happy if you get the infinity
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mj23kb24 said:
The first one is not the same as the second, the first one was the model before called the transformer prime, that one was removed from stores within about 6 months. I advise you to stay away from that one. The one on the bottom is the transformer infinity the one that is the better one. I have mine rooted and unlocked with cleanrom 2.4 and clemsyns 1.9 kernal. Boy can I say that its a sweet device now, stock it was okay but now its amazing. I would totally get it with the price of 350$.
This tablet has some advantages over the nexus 10 too.
Transformer Infinity's (TF700T) Advantages:
It has a micro SD card slot.
It has a dock that you can always connect to for extra battery life along with more ports.
Development is stronger AT THE MOMENT for this tablet.
For 350$ you can get 32 gigs of storage.
Nexus 10s advantages:
Better processor inside.
Better screen resolution.
Better support from manufacturer.
Disadvantages:
No micro SD card slot.
No docking station that adds battery life.
400$ only gets you 16 gbs of memory.
Not a lot known about this tablet yet to judge how great it really is or can be.
Hope this helps you out a little.
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How does the n10 have better support? Asus is considered to be the best. Even if the n10 is a nexus, it's made by Samsung, considered to be the worst...
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Because its a google product so logically google is going to release all of its updates and support quicker then any other device period. Dont get me wrong Asus has some awesome support.

Thanks guys.
I agree with the advantages over the Nexus tablet. I like the expandable storage. Plus 32gb for the price is great.
The resolution is better on the N10 but, really, I'm not a huge freak about that.
I'm sure the resolution is great and it has IPS mode right? I've heard good things about that.
I thought I'd be missing NFC, but in reality, it's a novelty to me, wow cool, ok move on. I've used it like 4 times on my S3, only because i bought a bunch of the tiles. They are in a drawer somewhere. Useless.
The dock looks pretty decent, kinda pricey but, i'll find a used one.
The infinity has USB OTG right? I'm assuming it does.
The processor difference between the N10 isn't that great and I don't really do anything that requires that much power..besides wow'ing myself with benchmarks, so i think it will be fine.
I'm not too worried about the updates since I won't be stock ever. I'm sure we'll be at 4.2 within no time if isn't already.
Thanks for the tips, I'm going to try to score the infinity off craigslist right now. I'll let you know what I think.

One last question..
The "gold" grey" models is referring to the actual color right or am I retarded? or both?
http://reviews.cnet.com/1770-5_7-0.html?query=TF700T+&tag=srch&searchtype=products

apristel said:
Thanks guys.
I agree with the advantages over the Nexus tablet. I like the expandable storage. Plus 32gb for the price is great.
The resolution is better on the N10 but, really, I'm not a huge freak about that.
I'm sure the resolution is great and it has IPS mode right? I've heard good things about that.
I thought I'd be missing NFC, but in reality, it's a novelty to me, wow cool, ok move on. I've used it like 4 times on my S3, only because i bought a bunch of the tiles. They are in a drawer somewhere. Useless.
The dock looks pretty decent, kinda pricey but, i'll find a used one.
The infinity has USB OTG right? I'm assuming it does.
The processor difference between the N10 isn't that great and I don't really do anything that requires that much power..besides wow'ing myself with benchmarks, so i think it will be fine.
I'm not too worried about the updates since I won't be stock ever. I'm sure we'll be at 4.2 within no time if isn't already.
Thanks for the tips, I'm going to try to score the infinity off craigslist right now. I'll let you know what I think.
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The resolution on the infinity still wows me though, its a nice looking tablet regardless. Sadly the infinity doesnt have USB on it however there is an adapter that plugs into your charger port to give you that support.
I have to agree that the dock is sweet but pricey, I personally dont own one yet and am patiently waiting for a Ubutu port before I make any further purchases.
Yeah the benchmarks on this thing are crazy if you do some tweaking, I will attach a pic with my benchmark on this post. It is pretty good.
Just make sure that it is indeed the infinity as the post says the transformer prime which is different then the transformer infinity. If the guy has the box the box should say infinity. Good luck man!
EDIT:Yes that is referring to is color not a stupid question either lol.

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The resolution on the infinity still wows me though, its a nice looking tablet regardless. Sadly the infinity doesnt have USB on it however there is an adapter that plugs into your charger port to give you that support.
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The dock has a USB port and a full-sized SD card slot.

mj23kb24 said:
Because its a google product so logically google is going to release all of its updates and support quicker then any other device period. Dont get me wrong Asus has some awesome support.
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Except it's still Samsung.... updates still have to go through the original OEM... So if the oem sucks, so will update. Look at the galaxy nexus as an example...
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pierrekid said:
Except it's still Samsung.... updates still have to go through the original OEM... So if the oem sucks, so will update. Look at the galaxy nexus as an example...
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I guess that's true I just don't see them releasing updates for other tablets before their own.

mj23kb24 said:
I guess that's true I just don't see them releasing updates for other tablets before their own.
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No, it’s a Nexus device the software will be updated by Google. The OEM means nothing.

Where did you see a TF700 for $350

mccahon said:
Where did you see a TF700 for $350
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I already got it for $350.

apristel said:
I already got it for $350.
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BS a $500 tablet for $350 where

He got it off of craigslist.
How are you liking the tablet thus far?

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BS a $500 tablet for $350 where
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$350 used isn't that unreal since you can get it new online for $429 shipped... so BS nothing.
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He got it off of craigslist.
How are you liking the tablet thus far?
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So far so good. I really haven't played with it, been busy with some other stuff but i'm glad i got it over the n7 or n10 even.
Once I root/rom i'll let you know, stock isn't what i like on anything.
Thanks for asking though!!

Congrats on the Infinity purchase!! You'll love it! Better choice than the N10 in my opinion. I had the Prime, then bought the Infinity when it was released and my girlfriend got the Prime. The only thing about the N10 that excites me is that GameLoft and EA said they are going to support it with their games. So that means the Infinity will get support too with its high res display!! Bonus!!!
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Thats good that your liking it man, once you root it and get that custom rom on it you will be amazed believe me. I only have one complaint about the tablet and its the my left side of my screen creeks but other then that I dont have any of the other problems people are complaining about.
Yes!! Finally gameloft will support this beast of a device!

apristel said:
$350 used isn't that unreal since you can get it new online for $429 shipped... so BS nothing.
So far so good. I really haven't played with it, been busy with some other stuff but i'm glad i got it over the n7 or n10 even.
Once I root/rom i'll let you know, stock isn't what i like on anything.
Thanks for asking though!!
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I got my infinity from best buy for 347.99 I believe on a price match
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As an Infinity owner I would have gone to Nexus 10. It is so much better device than this.
Just saw a video where some guy had opened 6 3D games and was multitasking and playing fluently those games. You just can't do that with this tablet. This will die under 2 games already.