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While I was lazily browsing around earlier on the intertubes looking for any rom that could possibly be better than Liquid Thundersense, I came across an article that bluntly informed me that the 'Bolt (and earlier HTC devices) will not be getting the Sense 3.0 update. While I'm relatively assured that the fine people here at xda will find a way to port it like they always do, I'm curious as to what HTC's motivations are behind this (other than they want you to buy more, always buy more ). Thoughts, anyone?
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While I was lazily browsing around earlier on the intertubes looking for any rom that could possibly be better than Liquid Thundersense, I came across an article that bluntly informed me that the 'Bolt (and earlier HTC devices) will not be getting the Sense 3.0 update. While I'm relatively assured that the fine people here at xda will find a way to port it like they always do, I'm curious as to what HTC's motivations are behind this (other than they want you to buy more, always buy more ). Thoughts, anyone?
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Pretty sure that's the whole motivation. Go buy the cool new whatever with cooler newer sense. R2doesinc was working on a sense 3 port, but he got stuck waiting on RIL and sold his thunderbolt.
I remember reading somewhere that the ThunderBolt doesn't have the hardware support needed for Sense 3.0.
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They said my hero couldn't run sense 2.3.3, but it is right now.
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Just a way to sell more phones the devs here will hook us up though
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didn't HTC back pedal and say the TB would get sense 3.0 minus a few of the higher end effects ( The stuff that looks like someone got a hold of 3d software for the first time). This is what i heard, and i have no citation.
After seeing regina 3d launcher and spb mobile shell, Im convinced that a home replacement app can be created to replicate sense 3.0. I think something like that can be created faster than getting a fully functional port. sense is the hottest ui ever but it tends to lag during data usage and the widgets get all choppy when scrolling. I rarely experienced this on my incredible. But I haven't rooted my tb yet.
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I'm sure most of you have seen this video,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=DvsXyeY0HVE#!
Of course this is running on the new Prime which has 1GB ram and a Dual Core processor
But, do you think that ICS will be as fast as Gingerbread was on the Nexus One?
I'm not looking for a definite answer, i'd just like to see your thoughts on the matter.
I fully expect it to run just fine.
It will be faster and smoother with hardware acceleration. Like how the stock launcher is on gingerbread is how the phone should be with ICS
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It will have the same pathetic ammount of RAM, but HW acceleration should theoreticly make it much faster.
Here's another thing id like to add in. I'm thinking that Google may disable the hardware buttons. I noticed that when the screen is off on my Nexus S, you cant even see the outline of the hardware buttons. So if they turned off the hardware lights. It could look like a smaller version of the Prime
There are way too many ICS-ready smartphones I think to not have an ICS version that uses hardware buttons. ICS will run flawless on the Nexus S, even better if hardware buttons are disbled I'd say.
I say yes..... At least hope so. My question is.... will ICS be hardware accelerated? has this been confirmed?
Yes it has been confirmed.
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Then honestly, I don't see a reason for ICS to not be smooth as long as long as it's hardware accelerated. If it can match the smoothness of the iPhone 4 then it would be pure epicness.
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I fully expect ICS to boost the value of the Nexus S on the used market. Then we sell it and get the Prime!
This was kinda my master plan when I came from the Captivate. Nexus will always have better value.
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Here's another thing id like to add in. I'm thinking that Google may disable the hardware buttons. I noticed that when the screen is off on my Nexus S, you cant even see the outline of the hardware buttons. So if they turned off the hardware lights. It could look like a smaller version of the Prime
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There would be benefit to disabling the buttons that are already there. It would just waste screen space, that unlike the Prime, we don't have to spare.
It should be fine since its hardware accelerated!!
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There would be benefit to disabling the buttons that are already there. It would just waste screen space, that unlike the Prime, we don't have to spare.
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if ics has screen buttons to use then to me, there would be no point in theory for the buttons. yea you can keep them and have them running. but i'd much rather have them disabled and have a slicker / nice view of ics running on my phone.
to me its kinda like the same concept of people that use clock widgets when there is the time in the notification panel. disable one, no need for both to be running. ya know
Is hardware acceleration essentially guaranteed to be in ICS?
I thought I read something somewhere that it was possible that some "important" features were going to be pushed back to Jelly Bean. Just hoping hw acceleration isn't one of them if true.
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Is hardware acceleration essentially guaranteed to be in ICS?
I thought I read something somewhere that it was possible that some "important" features were going to be pushed back to Jelly Bean. Just hoping hw acceleration isn't one of them if true.
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I thought the same thing... I heard that from somewhere too. Is it really that difficult to make Android fully hardware accelerated? I know vanilla android is smooth but not as smooth as IOS.
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if ics has screen buttons to use then to me, there would be no point in theory for the buttons. yea you can keep them and have them running. but i'd much rather have them disabled and have a slicker / nice view of ics running on my phone.
to me its kinda like the same concept of people that use clock widgets when there is the time in the notification panel. disable one, no need for both to be running. ya know
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Well yeah, my assumption is that if the phone has hardware buttons that the software ones will be disabled. The point is that while it's dumb to have both, there's no reason to waste screen space on software buttons when there are perfectly good hardware ones. Thus, if it's a choice between disabling the hardware ones or the software ones, the sensible thing to do is disable the software ones. I would be very surprised if Google engineers it any differently.
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Well yeah, my assumption is that if the phone has hardware buttons that the software ones will be disabled. The point is that while it's dumb to have both, there's no reason to waste screen space on software buttons when there are perfectly good hardware ones. Thus, if it's a choice between disabling the hardware ones or the software ones, the sensible thing to do is disable the software ones. I would be very surprised if Google engineers it any differently.
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Bingo! Exactly what I'm talking about.
The buttons seem like they took up roughly 1/3 inch from the Prime's screen in all the videos I've seen. With a 4.65" screen that's no big deal but with a 4" that's a pretty significant amount of wasted space, especially when there are perfectly functional buttons on the phone.
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Well yeah, my assumption is that if the phone has hardware buttons that the software ones will be disabled. The point is that while it's dumb to have both, there's no reason to waste screen space on software buttons when there are perfectly good hardware ones. Thus, if it's a choice between disabling the hardware ones or the software ones, the sensible thing to do is disable the software ones. I would be very surprised if Google engineers it any differently.
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yea that is true. i didn't really think it all the way through
Hw acceleration is what I want. One thing about android that fails against the iPhone (for general reasons obviously) is the uneven experience across full use of the phone. Like launcher pro is buttery smooth. But scrolling down the menus in voodoo control is choppy and uncomfortable. Hopefully ics will fix this.
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Here's a true question... =_= besides the Prime, Which Version Of Nexus S Will Receive the ICS Update First .... <_< ill be super pissed if sprints receives it first
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Here's some quotes from tonight's/today's press conference:
"Galaxy Nexus has no buttons and the physical / capacitive keys have been turned into 'virtual buttons' within the OS"
"The hardware works in concert with the OS. They were designed to work together."
"Android 4.0 ICS is "specifically designed" to work with 720p as its native resolution."
So, since the SGS2 has physical/capacitive buttons, wasn't designed to work with the OS, and doesn't support 720p, what makes us think it will (officially) get ICS?
You do point some vaild points in not getting it officially. But we could always tweak the source code to get in unofficially anyways. Software is software, a text file, it's not ike hardware where you have to change a resistor or something.
ANyways I don't think samsung will not deliver us ICS, they might simply just tweak it for us to work.
You honestly believe every device in near future will have no physical buttons ? and ICS will be limited only to high end devices ?
If 720p is going to be standard, that makes it really hard to do phones with smaller size screens though.
I wonder whats going to happen to ui customization. Is it going to be purer Google now?
see: SGS2 and ICS
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You honestly believe every device in near future will have no physical buttons ? and ICS will be limited only to high end devices ?
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Don't shoot the messenger. The quotes are from Google execs. I have no idea what the answers to your questions are but if you take what was said literally then the issue of ICS on legacy devices remains to be answered. That's why I brought it up for discussion. 45% of Android devices are still running Froyo so limiting ICS to specific devices doesn't seem out of the question. And based on the resources required by the OS, there has to be a line drawn somewhere anyway. Hell, the HTC Desire barely got GB.
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see: SGS2 and ICS
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Dude that was fake.
And he said "natively using 1280xwhatever". Doesn't mean it is the "only" display. It's coming to legacy ones. Stop worrying. Remember Nexus S from ebay?
And man, ice cream is like a derivative of Touchwiz. Good thing I started with samsung. LOL.
Sorry to say this but do you really thing Samsung will bring ICS as-it-is?
I mean I hope Samsung does not bring ICS as it-is, since there is HUGE difference between SGS launchers, UI and all other stuff compared to original Gingerbread already.
I really did not find ICS as "change the world" thing, but least, it is something new
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Dude that was fake.
And he said "natively using 1280xwhatever". Doesn't mean it is the "only" display. It's coming to legacy ones. Stop worrying. Remember Nexus S from ebay?
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Have people forgotten this works on tablets too? ie, Differing screen sizes?
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And man, ice cream is like a derivative of Touchwiz. Good thing I started with samsung. LOL.
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Will cm8/9 be ICS or is ICS cm8/9?
Ian
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krazykat said:
Dude that was fake.
And he said "natively using 1280xwhatever". Doesn't mean it is the "only" display. It's coming to legacy ones. Stop worrying. Remember Nexus S from ebay?
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Have people forgotten this works on tablets too? ie, Differing screen sizes?
Well, now that the SDK has arrived..i bet the devs are getting to work
already confirmed by Google..
ICS confirmation on Nexus S and Gingerbread devices
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already confirmed by Google..
ICS confirmation on Nexus S and Gingerbread devices
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Well, there you have it.
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Will cm8/9 be ICS or is ICS cm8/9?
Ian
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CM9 will be ICS.
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already confirmed by Google..
ICS confirmation on Nexus S and Gingerbread devices
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Yeah, they also said support for "18 months" at Gingerbread event (I know some devices who didn't follow this statement after it was said).
W&S, but maybe Samsung will use the Nexus Prime's OS as a selling point.
Check out the new nexus Video really cool
Google Android Ice cream Sandwich unveiled
looks like Google has worked/stole a few ideas from samsung
Apparently Google + has hangouts/video so I guess thats why they are taking video call out of google talk, maybe integrating with google +
I dont see, Any reason Galaxy S II wont get ICS Update .... !!!
Galaxy Nexus Hardware wise similar to Galaxy S II ... Only Screen Resolution and Virtual Button is the diff.
However, That does not mean, GS II wont get it ... Stop thinking that we wont be having it...
Start thinking that , how much of ICS Feature sammy will give us...thats more inp.
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Here's some quotes from tonight's/today's press conference:
"Galaxy Nexus has no buttons and the physical / capacitive keys have been turned into 'virtual buttons' within the OS"
"The hardware works in concert with the OS. They were designed to work together."
"Android 4.0 ICS is "specifically designed" to work with 720p as its native resolution."
So, since the SGS2 has physical/capacitive buttons, wasn't designed to work with the OS, and doesn't support 720p, what makes us think it will (officially) get ICS?
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This is marketing talk for Galaxy Nexus, you cannot draw the conclusion that it won't support older units or smaller displays from this.
Especially since Google said today that Nexus S will get ice cream...
nexus s is inferior to galaxy s according to HW side.. soo galaxy s II will obviously get ICS ..samsung wont make a mistake like not providing their best selling device getting ICS..
if they dont provide the devs will make us one.. coz there're 10million s2 users out there..
and all the brightest developers own a s2 coz this is simply the best phone
Hi I am planning to buy a nexus s.I am kind of stuck between choosing this or the galaxy s,but I feel nexus s fares a bit better since it has an led flash and 16gb instead of 8 for the galaxy s in the same price bracket.plus Google announced that it will be getting ics.my question is,that since the two share similar specs, are there touchwiz ports for nexus s,if I choose to go with Samsung's implementations,as I feel touchwiz is more fluid, better language support (Urdu/Arabic in my case),better video codec support (divx),720p recording (as I have read on forums,correct me),than stock android ?
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The Nexus S DOES NOT have an LED flash. Your info regarding this is incorrect.
AFAIK, no TW ports for the NS....also most video codecs can be played by Moboplayer or other apps. The SGSII has superior hardware, but it's true, you will wait longer for ICS if you get it.
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Babydoll25 said:
The Nexus S DOES NOT have an LED flash. Your info regarding this is incorrect.
AFAIK, no TW ports for the NS....also most video codecs can be played by Moboplayer or other apps. The SGSII has superior hardware, but it's true, you will wait longer for ICS if you get it.
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The nexus s does have led flash. If you disagree feel free to turn your phone over and look right next to the camera.
Babydoll25 said:
The Nexus S DOES NOT have an LED flash. Your info regarding this is incorrect.
AFAIK, no TW ports for the NS....also most video codecs can be played by Moboplayer or other apps. The SGSII has superior hardware, but it's true, you will wait longer for ICS if you get it.
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Since when does the nexus s not have an led flash? Mine sure does.
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Babydoll25 said:
The Nexus S DOES NOT have an LED flash. Your info regarding this is incorrect.
AFAIK, no TW ports for the NS....also most video codecs can be played by Moboplayer or other apps. The SGSII has superior hardware, but it's true, you will wait longer for ICS if you get it.
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The nexus s has led flash!
I think that she meant it doesnt have LED Notification, for text messages etc, although thats not a problem if you use a kernel with BLN
I doubt you'll find it. As for fluidity and language support, you'll have it when ice cream sandwich is available ( starting from now in nexus s, even sdk ports and early betas have what you want )
I had an Galaxy S.. liked it till the screen was broken. Later I buyed a Nexus S.. and honestly, I like the Nexus S much more..
Btw, there are already ICS aosp builds ready, tested one and it works perfect.
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Ok so the model available in my region is the sc-lcd rather than super amoled, I hear it does not have gorilla glass, the screen looks more glossy than galaxy s(outdoor visibility? )
Should I be concerned about any of these?
Are there ways to enable native divx support, coz frankly software decoding sucks.
What about 720p recording? Is that going to be remedied with ICS?
Anyone who feels touchwiz is superior to stock gb or maybe even ICS feature wise?
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I haven't seen TouchWiz on a Nexus S as of yet, it would be quite interesting though. Let us know how that goes.
So, I'm getting a new phone. I have a Cliq 2 at the moment and I'm currently debating between this phone and the LG G2x. I've heard tons of good things about both phones.
So, how is this phone? What are its good, and bad things? How is the keyboard?
I'm not asking about which phone I should get, I'm just asking about what are the ups of this phone, and what are its downs? How's the stock rom? How are all the custom roms? And any other useful things you guys can throw in about this phone.
Thanks!
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theholyfork said:
So, I'm getting a new phone. I have a Cliq 2 at the moment and I'm currently debating between this phone and the LG G2x. I've heard tons of good things about both phones.
So, how is this phone? What are its good, and bad things? How is the keyboard?
I'm not asking about which phone I should get, I'm just asking about what are the ups of this phone, and what are its downs? How's the stock rom? How are all the custom roms? And any other useful things you guys can throw in about this phone.
Thanks!
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I don't want to sound overly negative but this phone...cons
Very little ROM support
Stock is MySense 3.0 which is watered down Sense 3.0 and sucks
The dual cores don't seem to fire like they should...my MT4G was faster and only one core..
Keyboard is flat and hard to type....
Pros....
Hmmm Camera is cool....
some love the tv out....
and it should get 4.0
Love it. I amazing build quality, amazing camera, amazing keyboard. Sense launcher sucks and stock it sucks but with a rom its awesome.
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Pros:
Very stable
Easily rooted
Gets even faster once the Sense launcher and Rosie are both gone
Cons:
Only two devs actually working on this device (Undeadk9 and Kornyone)
No stable CyanogenMod builds yet
Stock ROM is almost pure bloatware
Well I think this phone is pretty snappy myself.
Undeadk9 has created a very stable Rom with an aosp feel and minimum sense just for the dialer and camera, which is perfect for me atleast.
Undeadk9 also is the first to get gpu ui rendering on any rom, so the phone is finally using the most out of its great hardware specs. I think the dual cores are perfect already, but once we get ics, I think the phone will fully utilize both cores
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Pretty good phone. Easy to root. New version of Bulletproof coming out soon.
I had been using a G1 from the start and took some doing for me to switch. Tried 2 different g2s that didn't work.
I really like the G1 keyboard but am getting used to the 4g slide's.
Only draw back is I work in a roaming area during the week and have trouble getting and making calls. Network problems with T-mobiles "roaming" partner network.
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Undeadk9 also is the first to get gpu ui rendering on any rom, so the phone is finally using the most out of its great hardware specs...
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Not quite true - the pre-1.0 version of Bulletproof had hardware rendering set as the default behavior, which I removed for the 1.0 release, and that was a while ago.
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I love this device, it's fantastic. Beefy hardware and a nice, smaller package, the capabilities of the device we are opening up is fantastic.
love the keyboard, aftermarket anker battery makes the package, and some nice cases out for it now.
Hardware rendering is a bit buggy, and i'm pretty sure it's a kernel issue that can be addressed - i've been studying this problem since about the middle of august and will start to address the issue in another week or so.
It works fine on the phone itself, but once you start using the TV-out function of the phone it gets weird at times.
If nto using hardware decoding, though, playing video games and watching movies on a TV is a fantastic feature without having to carry around the bulky MHL adapter some phones need, and the screen stays active which means you can use it as a controller for whatever you are playing on the TV.
Love the phone, you probably will too if you pick one up.
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Not quite true - the pre-1.0 version of Bulletproof had hardware rendering set as the default behavior, which I removed for the 1.0 release, and that was a while ago.
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I love this device, it's fantastic. Beefy hardware and a nice, smaller package, the capabilities of the device we are opening up is fantastic.
love the keyboard, aftermarket anker battery makes the package, and some nice cases out for it now.
Hardware rendering is a bit buggy, and i'm pretty sure it's a kernel issue that can be addressed - i've been studying this problem since about the middle of august and will start to address the issue in another week or so.
It works fine on the phone itself, but once you start using the TV-out function of the phone it gets weird at times.
If nto using hardware decoding, though, playing video games and watching movies on a TV is a fantastic feature without having to carry around the bulky MHL adapter some phones need, and the screen stays active which means you can use it as a controller for whatever you are playing on the TV.
Love the phone, you probably will too if you pick one up.
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Okay, cool. Before this phone came out I wanted it so bad, but for some reason I just forgot about it haha.
And oh, no CM? My I have it installed on my Cliq2 and I love it. The more custom roms the better haha
Edit: nevermind, just looked at the development section and saw there was a CM rom.
Why did someone say earlier not many ROMs? From what it looks like, there's a lot
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I like it, Im getting used to the keyboard, but it works. The Bulletproof rom is nice and snappy, feels good in my hands.. its a nice improvement over the 3g slide I used to have.
It has a lot of nice features that will be amazing once rom devs (like Blue6IX) tweek the kernel further
And its one of the few dual core phones with a slide out keyboard.
kornyone got himself added to the CM team by porting the majority of it to this device.
He released a rough alpha version of CM7 for the device, which was freakin' awesome! - just with the release of ICS by Google the entire CM crew is working around the clock to get ICS ported back to older devices, so the CM7 project for this device got shelved for a bit.
Because kornyone was interested in this device enough to go ahead and start getting CM7 ported to it, i'd like to think that puts this phone in a good position to get whatever ICS goodness they are working on.
I'm a bug fan of their work, I run CM7 on my Nook Color and love it - it's amazing what they've done.
For this device, personally, i'm preferring to work with Sense, which I know doesn't appeal to everyone. Once ICS hits the phone I think it'll be important to maintain a Sense option for people who would prefer to keep some of the proprietary technologies they've paid for (like TV-out).
I dunno, I bought a second one of these phones for development purposes, so if that says anything about how much I like it
i like the phone a lot as well, and i just can't get myself to flash CyanogenMod on it, haha(i have a G2 for that ). i personally feel HTC did a good job on this Mysense... even on stock, everything seems to work, and it looks great. granted i haven't used tv-out yet, and it sounds like the playback isn't stellar.... yet. the phone also doesn't seem as blazing fast as one might expect, but it is fast enough. i look forward to trying the next release of Bulletproof because it sounds like Blue61x has slimmed it down, while maintaining stability and all the Sense goodies.
I love this phone. I got it through rma from t mobile, brand new. Took a few to get one that I loved, but I'm much pickier than most. Feels very solid, I think its blazing fast.
I'm not sure what people are talking about when they say it isn't fast. I think this phone is a monster. Fastest phone I've used (mt3g, hd2 with android, mt4g). Notice I've only ever had touchscreen phones. I was in love with the galaxy s2, and thought for sure it would be my next phone. Then I got this thing, and I'm pretty darn sure I won't be switching anytime soon.
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I love this phone. I got it through rma from t mobile, brand new. Took a few to get one that I loved, but I'm much pickier than most. Feels very solid, I think its blazing fast.
I'm not sure what people are talking about when they say it isn't fast. I think this phone is a monster. Fastest phone I've used (mt3g, hd2 with android, mt4g). Notice I've only ever had touchscreen phones. I was in love with the galaxy s2, and thought for sure it would be my next phone. Then I got this thing, and I'm pretty darn sure I won't be switching anytime soon.
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Agreed. I own this since a few days. Its fast as hell...I'm using it with cm7, its working pretty well with it, except the cm7 has 720p video recording only. I'm okay with that. Otherwise its one of the best phones with keyboard. The screen resolution tho is a bit lagging behind the current best ones, but at least this phone fits well in the pocket.
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I'm thinking about getting this phone when I get my discount next month. I've had a chance to handle it a couple times, really like the feel of the slider, and the camera is just great(especially when compared to other HTC phones before it)!
It also looks like there's a couple great devs working on it. I'm following Blue's threads and I'm very impressed, plus korny seems to be making great progress with ICS.
Any chance someone could post a video overview of Bulletproof 1.1? I'd really like to see it in action
Can anyone tell me how the sound quality is - earpiece and speakerphone (calls and music) compared to HD2?
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Can anyone tell me how the sound quality is - earpiece and speakerphone (calls and music) compared to HD2?
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Personally this phone kicks ass. I have both a Sensation, and HD2 along side this baby. The sound quailty is amazing. I kick back, and relax to some biggie all the time. The screen is WVGA, not as clear as a qHD but is still good. The keyboard is much better than the Q2. I need a hardware keyboard since I text the Wife constantly, and its never let me down. The Duel Core shows off its power along side the 220 gpu. Speaker is load, performance is gooood. I use this over my sensation all the time.
But there's not many ROMs for it Xo there's more ROMs by the banished one on rootzwiki. Bulletproof is a good mysense rom, but there's a lot of neet roms. Where getting a true sense 3.0 rom soon. This phone is a must buy.
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... Where getting a true sense 3.0 rom soon. ...
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The stock Sense version is true Sense 3.0, not sure what you mean by this?
Maybe you are thinking Sense 3.5?
The phone is a beast on the spec sheet, but the stock rom is a bloated mess. If you're willing to root it, and freeze some of the bloat, stock isn't bad.
The keyboard is not as good as the MT3GS's, but I'm sure that was a tradeoff for the better specifications.
Basically, if you want a high end phone with a keyboard, there really just aren't many alternatives. I'm hoping we get some sort of ICS ROM (either cyanogen or HTC), as that'd extend the phone's life at least another year.
To Lifesorrows and Johnycat26,
Thanks a lot for the info - I just ordered the phone. I'm really impressed with Android on the HD2, but I really miss a hw kbd and having a great camera (and the extra ROM and RAM don't hurt either!)
To Blue61x, maybe he means a regular Sense ROM not the T-Mo modified "My-Sense" (for example w/o shortcuts on lock screen)?
I just got this phone today! I am loving it. So far. The hw keys a little hard to work with, that's about it though. Otherwise.this thing is a beast!! I love it. Came from a SGS4, big difference. That phone was so slow!!.o waving bye bye to it now. Had.a mytouch 4 h before and mt3h slide before that..o also had a cliq .and a.blackberry 9700. ........
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