[Q] 1&6 on the keyboard dock - Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

This may be a dumb or obvious question; The 1 & 6 on the KB dock are surrounded by a circle. I'm lead to believe that there some alterior function to these two keys based on that. However, I've tried the function, control, etc in combination withe the 1 and 6 with no result. What is it that I'm overlooking with the two keys? What do the circular markings on them indicate?

Nobody has any insight on this?

i think i know
i was wondering about this too when i first got it. it seems that most if not all asus keyboards have this. i read somewhere that the function is similar too that of the grooves on "F" and "J" its just to help you out when typing. i could totally be wrong on this though. its just what i read on some site.

This is purely a design thing. All of the ASUS netbooks have the same keyboard design with the 6 and 1.

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Restore original kb layout on Fuze using Dummy keys

It occurred to me that it may be possible to swap the keys from a Fuze with the keys from a Dummy Touch Pro in order to get a NAM GSM Touch Pro with the original layout. I remember playing with a CDMA Touch Pro dummy and the keys depressed like a regular keyboard. Normally I would order the service parts online, but there don't seem to be any available yet.
Note that I am talking about the physical layout. As you know it is easy to switch between Fuze and original layout in software.
Anyone care to comment on this idea?
Usually the parts on dummy devices won't work. As the cases aren't the real thing the few parts attach differently therefore would be problematic attaching to a real case.
Indeed, I would need to take the two apart to see how they compare. Most often keys are simply pieces of plastic that sit on either rubber or plastic and the functionality is not contained within the key itself.
I mean I could get little stickers to cover up the Fuze key symbols, but this may provide a fairly inexpensive (>$30) physical solution.
I'm also talking about taking the 60 or seventy keys and swapping them with the keys on the Fuze. It would require taking the keyboard completely apart.
OK, so I have obtained a Raphael service manual, so I should be able to disassemble it without destroying anything.
Am I the only one crazy enough to think this is worth while?
trueg said:
OK, so I have obtained a Raphael service manual, so I should be able to disassemble it without destroying anything.
Am I the only one crazy enough to think this is worth while?
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If it does work, everyone will think you're a genius (and the cost of dummies will go through the roof). Make sure to let us know. The keyboard is my major annoyance with the FUZE. Why create a custom keyboard when everyone knows where the keys are on a QWERTY!
Just wanted to update this thread for historical purposes. Looks like I just had to give it some time.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=479273
Turns out the keyboard just sticks on. Had I went and purchased the dummy, I could very well have simply pulled off the keyboard and swapped it for the one on my Fuze. Buying the dummy would now be overkill since you can simply purchase the OEM keyboard for $10.
http://www.gsm4world.us/htc-touch-pro-htc-raphael-100-oem-inner-keyboard-d-02161_405.html
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AT&T Tilt Keyboard Replacement

I recently took apart my AT&T Tilt, actually, I took it apart about six times! (So, if anyone wants help and advice I can surely tell you how to do it).
The keyboard, certain keys have stopped working. The problem is some keys require firm presses started before I pulled the phone apart, but finally in the last pull apart, some keys stopped working altogether. I guess I just exacerbated or accelerated the deterioration of the keyboard.
I ripped out the keyboard (the qwerty keyboard, not the keypad on the front of the phone). The housing remains attached. After I did this, I read on xda that this is not what should have been done, because the keyboard itself is not the issue. I can verify this, because I now have the circuitry, for want of an apt description, lying underneath the keyboard exposed. When I depress those circuitry corresponding to the faulty letters on the keyboard that don't work, surprise, it doesn't work either, even though those circuits, respond in feedback as if I was depressing the keyboard. (I am wondering if ripping out the keyboard was a wise choice....................).
Prior to ripping out the keyboard, I pulled the phone apart and re-attached the keyboard membrane to the motherboard, so yes, I at least followed that procedure.
My conclusion is that I need a new keyboard with housing.
First question, would anyone concur with this conclusion? If not what could it be?
I am not having any luck finding just a keyboard with housing without having to pay astronomical amounts, i.e. prices allowing me to justify buying an iPhone! I have seen parts for sale in the xda marketplace. I have found a replacement keyboard and housing for a TyTnII/ Kaiser (from here https://www.gsm4world.us/htc-tytn-ii-p4550-oem-keyboard-w-flex-d-01433_297.html) , which I know has a different keyboard layout than the Tilt. However, this unit is for sale at a very competitive price and I am tempted to buy it.
Here's the challenge. I have a standard AT&T ROM. If I buy this keyboard, how do I get the keys to map correctly? I know that when I depress certain keys on this keyboard, it will respond as if it were an AT&T keyboard. If there is a keyboard driver I can load onto my Tilt that would be ideal. (I don't want to flash an entire ROM for the phone).
If anyone is aware of alternatives, such as a cheaper supply of AT&T Tilt keyboard with housing, or how to stick on a new keyboard and fix the non responding keys, I would be all ears. I have spent too many hours on this already, enough to justify buying a new phone outright!
Thanks all.
I changed my keyboard and I have orginal one I can trade my old one for reasonable price
Zombie.raised,
Can you confirm the keyboard is from an AT&T Tilt. If so, does it work? Do all the keys work?

How Useful is a Trackball or Pad in a Touchscreen Phone?

I've never had a touch screen phone. The only touch screen device I've had is a Palm IIIxe. Yeah, I guess I'm dating myself here. All of my phones have had hardware buttons with some sort of D-pad. I'm considering finally getting a touchscreen device (EVO) and I'm wondering what you guys think about alternative cursor controls in combination with a touchscreen.
The G1 had a trackball. As does the Nexus One. Several Android devices now have optical pads in place of the trackball. And some other devices have hard d-pads.
My question is thus:
What do you guys think about having an extra way to input on a touchscreen phone? Do you find yourself using it often? Hardly at all? Would you rather have that extra space as more screen (or something else)? And which do you prefer? Optical, hard d-pad, or trackball?
Just trying to get some discussion and some thoughts going.
Thanks.
Minjin said:
I've never had a touch screen phone. The only touch screen device I've had is a Palm IIIxe. Yeah, I guess I'm dating myself here. All of my phones have had hardware buttons with some sort of D-pad. I'm considering finally getting a touchscreen device (EVO) and I'm wondering what you guys think about alternative cursor controls in combination with a touchscreen.
The G1 had a trackball. As does the Nexus One. Several Android devices now have optical pads in place of the trackball. And some other devices have hard d-pads.
My question is thus:
What do you guys think about having an extra way to input on a touchscreen phone? Do you find yourself using it often? Hardly at all? Would you rather have that extra space as more screen (or something else)? And which do you prefer? Optical, hard d-pad, or trackball?
Just trying to get some discussion and some thoughts going.
Thanks.
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Optical track ball looks sweet, but it's alot finickery than the trackball itself. I can old see a d-pad for games, that's it.
it is GREAT for selecting texts. i think track ball is the best as it feels the most smooth and have some physical feedback.
I'm happy to have it. It would honestly draw me away from the phone if it didn't have a trackball. I constantly use it, it's kinda just natural.
my x1 got an optical actionpad and it's pretty jittery close to useless
It's a great optional way to input, edit, etc. Plus changing colors for diff events is awesome...Luv it on my Nexus!
I love the trackball on my Nexus, just makes it WAY easier to correct text, instead of tapping around till you find the right spot, you just go there. Now I will be buying an Evo, and I'll get used to it, I did it on my iPhone & I do fine without it on my Droid, but it will be missed.
I've heard trackballs don't last as long. Is this true?
I love my trackball it makes things easy
How does it work exactly? Do you get a mouse pointer? Or are the trackballs movements just translated into up/down/left/right?
A mouse pointer would be sweet....
I love the trackball. On my G1, it is no longer perfect, but still does the job.
I have just got a Desire as a new work phone, and the optical track ball SUCKS. So dissapointed. It's going back! I'm either going to wait for a keyboard phone or get an N1.
MooGoo said:
How does it work exactly? Do you get a mouse pointer? Or are the trackballs movements just translated into up/down/left/right?
A mouse pointer would be sweet....
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You get a mouse pointer in Opera 5. I like having it.
Is it mini or mobile? I can't remember.
TrackballS tend to get dirty and jam, this happend to almost all my phones that had them (especially BB's). Now that I have a phone with the optical pad, I find it more stylish, durable, comfortable and reliable. It just took a little getting used to at first. Im sure most phones from now on will be using the pad over the ball. Trackballs are so 2009.
it's 2008, not 2009
optical trackpad has been out for too long and I think it's better. I don't know how can you guys use the trackball and not get it dirty :-s
and on android phone I don't need either of those, I use volume key to move the cursor, and it's good enough for me
I use it mainly for moving my cursor in a text, copying text.
Sometimes I use it for scrolling through a list or a document.
Little use overall, but I'm happy it's there when I need it.
benoitb85 said:
I use it mainly for moving my cursor in a text, copying text.
Sometimes I use it for scrolling through a list or a document.
Little use overall, but I'm happy it's there when I need it.
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Exactly, it is rarely used, but selecting text/moving the cursor around a text field with the optical sensor is bad. You can only jump 1 character at a time.
As I mentioned before, it's great having the mouse pointer in Opera, and the trackball complements it great. The optical is no good at all with this, as it only moves up/down and left/right, not diagonally, and only in small steps.
I have had my G1 for ages, without a case, and the trackball, while not as good as new, still blows the optical sensor away.
I don't think it matters what year it is, there are advantages to the trackball over the optical.
I like the trackpad and the hardware d-pad of my Xperia X1. They enable me to use my phone singlehandedly whenever I need to. It's also nice to scroll through lists. And last but not least one or two more opitions to control your device can never be bad.
very useful, you cant navigate the bootloader without it.
i smashed my phone yesterday and im glad i have the hardware buttons including the trackball
i managed to backup everything without touch input! win
the track ball would keep me away from the g1, nexus one and any other phone that has it. i never understood it nor did i see the need for it. i've played with them on my friends phones and have not felt comfortable using them. but it does seem like others have found them valuable so i guess its safest to say that they are not for everybody.

[Q] How is your touchscreen?

The Transformer and A500 have touchscreen issues so I am considering a xoom. Having had similar issues with my Nexus One I wont be able to put up with it again, so before I buy I want to ask everyone what their experience has been with their xoom?
I have never had issues with mine and personally like it a lot (minus the obvious like glare). Although some say that the Xoom has a "lower" image quality than other devices.
What in particular are you referring to?
Well according to my friend, when using word selection on the keyboard he will press the 3rd word but the 4th word will be selected instead.
My Nexus One was just a nightmare, was unusable when in bed, and generally poor everywhere else.
I am able to select single character words like "a" with the screen completely zoomed out on a website without any issues. As far as keyboard goes, I use Thumb Keyboard and have never had a issue with word selection or correction
omac_ranger said:
I am able to select single character words like "a" with the screen completely zoomed out on a website without any issues. As far as keyboard goes, I use Thumb Keyboard and have never had a issue with word selection or correction
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Same here...can very accurately select a tiny point with fingertip.
Thanks guys, I went and got a xoom, very happy with it, I found out it uses a touch sensor by a company called Atmel.

Thin 5 row qwerty slider case ,NFC?

I have been waiting for a super phone with a physical keyboard , but it doesn't look like anyone is going to make one. Next best thing would be a thin slider keyboard case for the S4. A low power NFC based, 5 row keyboard that slides behind and/or folds over to protect the display would be great. All searches I have done seem to bring up a thick 4 row S3 case.Has anyone found any promising keyboards to be released for the S4?
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I have been waiting for a super phone with a physical keyboard , but it doesn't look like anyone is going to make one. Next best thing would be a thin slider keyboard case for the S4. A low power NFC based, 5 row keyboard that slides behind and/or folds over to protect the display would be great. All searches I have done seem to bring up a thick 4 row S3 case.Has anyone found any promising keyboards to be released for the S4?
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This is what I am after too. Nothing yet. I have heard that ele-boat.com is making two versions - one that is magnetic and another that is the more traditional case we're used to. I have seen pictures, but I have not been able to try it. They say the magnetic version is thinner, as you'd expect, but it would not be my preferred type, I think. Oh, and it's not NFC. It's bluetooth.
levi47 said:
I have been waiting for a super phone with a physical keyboard , but it doesn't look like anyone is going to make one. Next best thing would be a thin slider keyboard case for the S4. A low power NFC based, 5 row keyboard that slides behind and/or folds over to protect the display would be great. All searches I have done seem to bring up a thick 4 row S3 case.Has anyone found any promising keyboards to be released for the S4?
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I'm looking for the same thing. All I can find are Bluetooth 4-row slide-out keyboards on newegg's website. Did you have any luck with this?
levi47 said:
I have been waiting for a super phone with a physical keyboard , but it doesn't look like anyone is going to make one. Next best thing would be a thin slider keyboard case for the S4. A low power NFC based, 5 row keyboard that slides behind and/or folds over to protect the display would be great. All searches I have done seem to bring up a thick 4 row S3 case.Has anyone found any promising keyboards to be released for the S4?
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How about ANYTHING with a 5 row keyboard? Thick, Bluetooth, high power usage? My Droid 3 screen cracked and I just couldn't bring myself to replace it with the Droid 4. Costco had a deal on the S4, I went for it, but I know I will miss the physical keyboard.....
Thanks,
Chad
5 row qwerty
Help me campaign on twitter and get the word out to all manufacturers and providers that we want an up to date top of the line phone with a physical 5 row qwerty phone. #fullqwerty and also Please join this campaign: htt p://chn. ge/1jQ4VM. spread the word
There is one 5 row bluetooth qwerty keyboard case for iPhone 5/5s. Maybe you can mod it to Galaxy S4 like I modded iPhone 6 keyboard case to Xiaomi Mi4C: Qwerty Keyboard Slider [DIY]

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