The only thing sk4g is missing, imho, is an overclocked cpu. Atleast 1400 mhz plz
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We would need a OCable kernel ,which we don't have .
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The only thing sk4g is missing, imho, is an overclocked cpu. Atleast 1400 mhz plz
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1400mhz would fry your cpu, not to mention give you about 15 min of battery life. Why in the world do you need more than the 1ghz that is stock? it's plenty fast?
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1400mhz would fry your cpu, not to mention give you about 15 min of battery life. Why in the world do you need more than the 1ghz that is stock? it's plenty fast?
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Depends,
I was looking at the g2 before tmo killed it and with a stock 800 mhz cpu it was consistantly clocked to 1.6 to 1.8 ghz stabily.....
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Depends,
I was looking at the g2 before tmo killed it and with a stock 800 mhz cpu it was consistantly clocked to 1.6 to 1.8 ghz stabily.....
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i have the G2 as well, and yeah, it seems to be able to handle higher speeds.... not sure if that is an HTC vs. Samsung thing. i used to have the Epic 4g, and it was difficult to get mine above 1.2 ghz, so i figure the SK might have trouble as well. i wouldn't mind seeing 1.2, but yeah, the device is pretty fast at stock
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i have the G2 as well, and yeah, it seems to be able to handle higher speeds.... not sure if that is an HTC vs. Samsung thing. i used to have the Epic 4g, and it was difficult to get mine above 1.2 ghz, so i figure the SK might have trouble as well. i wouldn't mind seeing 1.2, but yeah, the device is pretty fast at stock
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1.2 ghz is deintely gonna be the ax on this device without compromising battery life or frying the cpu samsung just cant keep up with htc
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1.2 ghz is deintely gonna be the ax on this device without compromising battery life or frying the cpu samsung just cant keep up with htc
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That's funny cuz the GPU in the hummingbird still blows away HTC's dual cores in terms of graphics performance, maybe you should read up on the processors before you go making claims like that. No you can't overclock it to twice what it is stock, but you don't need to because it was built right, HTC is stuck on outdated omap chips with craptastic adreno gpus that can barely render anything
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That's funny cuz the GPU in the hummingbird still blows away HTC's dual cores in terms of graphics performance, maybe you should read up on the processors before you go making claims like that. No you can't overclock it to twice what it is stock, but you don't need to because it was built right, HTC is stuck on outdated omap chips with craptastic adreno gpus that can barely render anything
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I got my samsung ns4g oc to 1.5 ghz, hummingbird pro
Still blows ur sidekicks away.
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That's funny cuz the GPU in the hummingbird still blows away HTC's dual cores in terms of graphics performance, maybe you should read up on the processors before you go making claims like that. No you can't overclock it to twice what it is stock, but you don't need to because it was built right, HTC is stuck on outdated omap chips with craptastic adreno gpus that can barely render anything
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it was just an opinion ive used both devices and i just feel htc is better. and im not a fan of overclocking anyway but if it was overclocked i dont think samsung could overclock as much as htc could
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I got my samsung ns4g oc to 1.5 ghz, hummingbird pro
Still blows ur sidekicks away.
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Yes you get 5 min of battery life and your cores will fry in a few months from being pushed too hard, give yourself a pat on the back. There are no apps built for a phone yet that would take advantage of that kind of power, maybe in 2 years but by that time you will be busy frying a quadcore
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it was just an opinion ive used both devices and i just feel htc is better. and im not a fan of overclocking anyway but if it was overclocked i dont think samsung could overclock as much as htc could
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That is true, htc phones are known to have higher overclocks but it really depends on the individual chip. The same phone owned by 2 different people can usually reach different speeds like one can only do 200mhz OC and another 800. the g2 was a 1ghz chip that was underclocked to 800mhz, the samsung is not and from what I've seen/friends have owned I think samsung has blown HTC away in the past year with their chips and performance, build quality not so much.
Im seeing more and more threads asking for stuff but it seems like noone wants to get their hands dirty actually dev'ing and it's obnoxious. If someone does make an OCc'able kernel then they are going to have to deal with everyone pissing and moaning when they fry their phones or can't go as high as they want and there really is no point when the phone is fast as **** stock
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That is true, htc phones are known to have higher overclocks but it really depends on the individual chip. The same phone owned by 2 different people can usually reach different speeds like one can only do 200mhz OC and another 800. the g2 was a 1ghz chip that was underclocked to 800mhz, the samsung is not and from what I've seen/friends have owned I think samsung has blown HTC away in the past year with their chips and performance, build quality not so much.
Im seeing more and more threads asking for stuff but it seems like noone wants to get their hands dirty actually dev'ing and it's obnoxious. If someone does make an OCc'able kernel then they are going to have to deal with everyone pissing and moaning when they fry their phones or can't go as high as they want and there really is no point when the phone is fast as **** stock
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overclocking i believe is pointless because your phone shouldnt go that fast and it ruins the internals and compromises battery. yes in the past years samsung has blown away htc in the chip section but i fell htc are more overclock capable
We have 1GHz stock , once we get a ocable kernel 1.2GHz will be fine no more than that we don't wanna push the cpu to fry now .
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Hey, I love htc phones but I've been reading everywhere and am nor quite sure if thos will stack up to the bionic.
I jear rumors the thunderbolt will be overcloclable to 1.8 ghz. Is this true? Will that be close if not better than dual core? And does the thundeebolt have good 3d graphic support?
If I am posting this, I'm probably pooping.
Thunderbolt may end up being overclocked, probably not to 1.8GHz, yes it has good 3D support, as it has the second generation snapdragon, and if you want to get technical no it is not as good as dual core.
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Thunderbolt may end up being overclocked, probably not to 1.8GHz, yes it has good 3D support, as it has the second generation snapdragon, and if you want to get technical no it is not as good as dual core.
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little bit off topic , but i see u are from revere ma? i was born there and grew up in lynn
Lol, yeah overclock that little processor to 2x it's standard capacity, see what that does to your battery life and the lifetime of the internals.
There's a reason OEM's don't overclock everything.
Depending on how underclocked the processor is to begin with it may not hurt. Overclocked my d1 to 1.25 more than double with zero issues, mininal effect on battery and is still running perfectly fine a year and a half later.
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Depending on how underclocked the processor is to begin with it may not hurt. Overclocked my d1 to 1.25 more than double with zero issues, mininal effect on battery and is still running perfectly fine a year and a half later.
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Just like how there are people out there who smoke two packs a day until they're 85, there's always exceptions. Doesn't make smoking any healthier.
Its a little different. Not sure if you know how it actually works but as long as your kernel os undervolted and overclocked, and with proper safety precautions such as set cpu temperature parameters, it is perfectly safe and you will not fry anything.
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little bit off topic , but i see u are from revere ma? i was born there and grew up in lynn
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*is from Revere MA!* lol
Anyone know how N64oid runs on this? Better than the Droid X? I've been once again addicted to playing Super Mario 64 lol
mytouch 4g overclocked to 1.8
Theres no reason to OC a phone like this, unless you're just trying to get a high quadrant score.. I had a MT4G and I never needed to OC it. It ran lightning quick with CM7...
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*is from Revere MA!* lol
Anyone know how N64oid runs on this? Better than the Droid X? I've been once again addicted to playing Super Mario 64
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I'm not sure about some games like Golden Eye. I'll test it over the weekend, but if I can play Super Mario 64 without any lag on an Evo, which has only a first gen snapdragon, I'm sure it will run fine on TB
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I can't seem to find a model number of the processor used in the Infuse. Is it the same Hummingbird that is in the Nexus S (S5PC110), just OC'ed to 1.2gh?
If so, does that mean that we are tapped out at 1.2?
Yes, same processor, just OCed. I'm sure it could overclock a little more up to at least 1.4 like the original Galaxy S could, maybe 1.6 if you're lucky.
thanks... not that I am complaining about the speed... just hoping for a higher baseline to work with
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Yes, same processor, just OCed. I'm sure it could overclock a little more up to at least 1.4 like the original Galaxy S could, maybe 1.6 if you're lucky.
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yes. it seems to be identical. some users may be topped, but they may have saved better tested units for faster clocked phones. there may be a greater percentage of users that can see above 1300mhz than on the sgs. if you are concerned about clockspeeds then get a snapdragon powered phone. qualcom has there own dies and some of them see speeds as high as 1.8ghz.
but im sure if you see this chip at 1.4ghz+ benchmark you wont see a need for more
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yes. it seems to be identical. some users may be topped, but they may have saved better tested units for faster clocked phones. there may be a greater percentage of users that can see above 1300mhz than on the sgs. if you are concerned about clockspeeds then get a snapdragon powered phone. qualcom has there own dies and some of them see speeds as high as 1.8ghz.
but im sure if you see this chip at 1.4ghz+ benchmark you wont see a need for more
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meh... this seems more than fast enough for me (right now)... not sure I need to mess with it, just for benchmark bragging rights.
oh, who am I kidding, of course, I will OC it when a kernel gets released
I just wanted to post this for information only.
Even though the chip is the same, since is OC'd from the factory it means a higher quality chip. Thus it should still be able to clock higher than the other 1Ghz chips.
It may be a similar chip, but much smoother than when I overclocked galaxy. Benchmarks are better than the inspire I overclocked 1.5g
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It may be a similar chip, but much smoother than when I overclocked galaxy. Benchmarks are better than the inspire I overclocked 1.5g
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Didn't feel any smoother than an overclocked Captivate running a 2.2.1 firmware to me and didn't bench any higher either. If it is smoother, it's probably because of tweaked software and different memory and/or nand components.
The chip itself has the same model number.
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I just wanted to post this for information only.
Even though the chip is the same, since is OC'd from the factory it means a higher quality chip. Thus it should still be able to clock higher than the other 1Ghz chips.
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Probably true, but I've seen several reports of stock Infuses overheating, which doesn't inspire confidence in its overclocking abilities.
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Probably true, but I've seen several reports of stock Infuses overheating, which doesn't inspire confidence in its overclocking abilities.
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Did you say that so you could say Inspire and Infuse in the same sentence?
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Did you say that so you could say Inspire and Infuse in the same sentence?
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Did it captivate you?
gtg465x said:
Did it captivate you?
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*facepalm* You could say it fascinated me to see such a vibrant and epic galaxy of Android phones!
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Probably true, but I've seen several reports of stock Infuses overheating, which doesn't inspire confidence in its overclocking abilities.
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well the heat seems to come from one of the radios.
I'm making this topic to help guys who switch from iPhone and get the Infuse 4g, Okay easily they can follow the routing process, after that the big question is now what?
Please if anyone have suggestion or any Apps that you think will make new rooters enjoy the infuse 4g do post.
My 1st suggestion is SetCpu app,
This can adjust your processors speed and even make it run faster from 1.2ghz to 1.4ghz+, they called this overclocking.
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First app after root should be Titanium Backup, donate version.
yea, thats right, then its easy restore.
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next comes root explorer
Then adfree
Noob question here. I'm rooted and downloaded setcpu. How do I move the cursor past the 1.2 mark?
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Noob question here. I'm rooted and downloaded setcpu. How do I move the cursor past the 1.2 mark?
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need a different cpu driver. that means either a kernel module or an overclock kernel. unfortunately there is basically no kernel dev going on for thins phone that i know of and overclock is not yet an option. it will be soon but dont expect much. many hummingbird chips cant reach speeds any faster than 1.3ghz, though theinfuse may have a cpu that tests beter than the galaxy s to support the higher stock clock speed. a few hummingbirds can go to 1.6ghz so if you get lucky it can be very very fast. just luck of the draw though. i an more interested in a gingerbread port however. the market and browser and overall feeling of the phone on 2.3.3 is more significant than overclocking and safer as well.
the processor in the infuse is not the same generation as what you would find in something like the captivate. like the different generations of the snapdragon, performance and specifications are pretty much completely different. ill expect some high cpu values to come when we get a new kernel.
Overclocking phones is stupid. It does little more than increase heat, decrease battery, and inflate benchmarks.
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the processor in the infuse is not the same generation as what you would find in something like the captivate. like the different generations of the snapdragon, performance and specifications are pretty much completely different. ill expect some high cpu values to come when we get a new kernel.
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the build.prop shows the same part number. it is the same generation. the snapdragon went through a die shrink (65nm-45nm) and got a new graphics processor. not exactly a good comparison. qc may be better now but that doesnt mean you should expect any more than 1.4 ghz and a few people might be stuck with no overclock at all. really if you want a faster phone why buy what is more or less a midrange processor? infact it is soo hard to find a <1ghz chip now that there isnt really a mid range this year only single core and dual core. there is the tegra2 and the new orion chips and will soon be dual core snapdragons. believe me if this is not fast enough you really want to look at a different platform. i got this phone because i realize clock speed is not as important as good software and because the sgs was so good i thought a bigger screen, more ram, and mhl could only be a good thing.
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Overclocking phones is stupid. It does little more than increase heat, decrease battery, and inflate benchmarks.
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+100 for this comment.
EVERY overclocked ROM in every phone's thread claims it's 2x faster than any other phone. haha... if every phone is faster than every other phone, what's the point?
I think overclocking is just done for those who need that little extra control in their life that they may be lacking elsewhere, hehe
Exactly... why would You want to overclock a phone, to tell Your friends its overclocked?
...then later ROM Manager, market enabler and ...........tune-in radio ;-)
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...then later ROM Manager, market enabler and ...........tune-in radio ;-)
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I installed rom manager to try flashing the mobile ap zip but its telling me i have to flash a recovery first. Im a little scared, lol
Not sure if i can find a mobile ap apk?
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Overclocking phones is stupid. It does little more than increase heat, decrease battery, and inflate benchmarks.
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I fried my beautiful Captivate using an overclocked kernel running at 1.3ghz.....i will never do that again...
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Exactly... why would You want to overclock a phone, to tell Your friends its overclocked?
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hell yeah. its impressive. ive never broken anything by overclocking anything. theres been protection built into them for years. its not like battery is really effected, its a scaling processor, its only at the overclocked speed when you need it. as far as im concerned, its free performance, and i plan to use it when the infuse gets some overclockyness.
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They may hold true for the Captivate or even the Infuse but it definitely was not the case with the Inspire. A mild bump from 1.0 to 1.2ghz made a very substantial difference in smoothness and feel and did very little to heat and battery.
I find screenshot it so useful. For rooters only
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Please keep the suggestions coming. I am new to Android from the iphone and a newbie to rooting. Knew my way around jailbreaking and what i needed and wanted once that was accomplished, but to tell the truth alot of that comes standard with android so looking to broaden my horizons even more.
I noticed an appreciable difference with my Epic when I overclocked from 1.0ghz to 1.2ghz. Games that normally used to lag, stopped lagging completely. Games load faster. The system performance is much smoother as well.
http://nena.se/nenamark/view?version=2
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_sensation-review-605p4.php
Why does this sound like it belongs in the sensation section
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Its false. It isn't reading the second core on the Tegra chips. So double our score!
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Its false. It isn't reading the second core on the Tegra chips. So double our score!
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How did the xoom score so well then?
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Benchmarks mean nothing. If you wanted to make a rom that scored a quadrillion on benchmarks you could, doesn't mean diddly squat in real life use. Both the sensation and g2x are very fast and comparable phones. That should be posted at the top of both forums.
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Its false. It isn't reading the second core on the Tegra chips. So double our score!
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Which would make it faster than the GSII? Nope, not going to happen. The Tegra II isn't that powerful. Even if it was only recognizing one core which it isn't, unless you know of something I don't. The score wouldn't double if the other core kicked in. That is not how dual core processors work. Just because only one core is running, doesn't mean its running at half the speed. Besides, who really gives a **** what is faster at benchmarks anyway. There two completely different phones that shouldn't even be compared. Ones pushing a **** load more pixels and the other is running on a stock ROM.
I'm sorry but who f'n gives a crap if some stupid benchmark scores the g2x a few points lower!!
G2x>sensation all day long
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Which would make it faster than the GSII? Nope, not going to happen. The Tegra II isn't that powerful. Even if it was only recognizing one core which it isn't, unless you know of something I don't. The score wouldn't double if the other core kicked in. That is not how dual core processors work. Just because only one core is running, doesn't mean its running at half the speed. Besides, who really gives a **** what is faster at benchmarks anyway. There two completely different phones that shouldn't even be compared. Ones pushing a **** load more pixels and the other is running on a stock ROM.
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I know I was being sarcastic. lmao
There is another thread on this "Nenamark2" which goes into more detail. They said it wasn't utilizing the second core. Why did the Xoom score high? Maybe because the issue is related to our kernel/hardware.
The Tegra 2 is pretty powerful. The power, though, is shown more through its GPU then through the CPU (which still keeps up with the SGS2).
Hi,
I'm sorry if I'm posting it on the wrong part of the forum, not sure if it's a General question or a Develop one.
I am still thinking if I want to buy the HTC One X or wait for the SGS3...all bring me wish the One X but the cpu.
SGS3 cpu tests are saying that SGS3 is more or less 20% faster then the HOX international version so I was wondering if maybe the cpu of HOX is more overclockable than that of the SGS3 or if anyway there is a way to bring the final performance of the 2 phone at a more or less the same level.
I would like an overall opinion so, for example, if the HOX is overclockable to increase the performance of a 20% BUT the SGS3 will be overclockable the same increasing the performance of a 20% too there will be anyway a lack of 20%
Shall I have some technical opinion on it (without creating fun boy flame or just "is more fashion" and so on...would like to speak only about the cpu)
Thanks
Max
Well take a look at the Transformer Prime ( tegra3 device )
Yep overclock till 1700 1800 Mhz is possible.
So to be sort and not so much technical Yes it can be done
Even if the one x can be overclocked to make up for the performance difference to a stock SGS3 it would require a higher voltage, which in return kills battery life even quicker. That, plus the difference in battery capacity in favor of the SGS3 =not a good idea.
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You got Quad Core with 1.5Ghz why on earth you want to overclock again. You have enough speed to run almost anything on One X. SGS 3 chipset is different so you might see different in performance. There Meizu MX which beats SGS 3 in benchmarks. So this will never stop. New device will keep on coming with better speed, better power management. You can't keep up with it.
With a custom kernel you can overclock untill 999999999999999999
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This goes in the question and answers section also, what does this have to do with developing, also why the heck would you want to overclock something that has more power than any other phone on the market right now?
You marked your post with a Q meaning it´s going to Q&A
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Hi,
I'm sorry if I'm posting it on the wrong part of the forum, not sure if it's a General question or a Develop one.
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samuel2706 said:
This goes in the question and answers section also, what does this have to do with developing, also why the heck would you want to overclock something that has more power than any other phone on the market right now?
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To get a bigger (e-)penis ofc. But yeah, this should've been in Q&A. And yes, OC isn't really needed, but instead underclock and undervolt is something some of us want. And maybe turn of one or two of the cores, but maybe this doesn't save that much power?
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To get a bigger (e-)penis ofc. But yeah, this should've been in Q&A. And yes, OC isn't really needed, but instead underclock and undervolt is something some of us want. And maybe turn of one or two of the cores, but maybe this doesn't save that much power?
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Let's hope the phone gods grant us more battery life after underclocking/undervolting/disabling a core. And give us smooth performance while doing so
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You got Quad Core with 1.5Ghz why on earth you want to overclock again. You have enough speed to run almost anything on One X. SGS 3 chipset is different so you might see different in performance. There Meizu MX which beats SGS 3 in benchmarks. So this will never stop. New device will keep on coming with better speed, better power management. You can't keep up with it.
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Well of course that ther ewill be always something more powerfull but SGS3 is almost real so...for more or less the same price why choose a less powerful device...even if you don't really need that power (but I quite doubt about it)
First of all, is your One X going to be an ATT phone? If so, the it has a dual core and not a quad...the quad core is the international version as it is not compatible with the LTE radio...in actuality, the Qualcomm Arm 7, s4 processor will usually out perform the quad core processor in the One XL...more does not mean faster...it would be rare to use all 4 processors at same time anyway...I plan to underfloor mine as 1.2 or so is fast enough without any lags on apps...and the HTC display is, by far, better than Samsung's super AMOLED display..sure it has high contrast but it's not as good...HTC also has beats audio and Samsung does not, unless HTC decides to license it to them, since HTC bought beats audio (51%) anyway...plus HTC is the original creator of android, not google...the first android was an HTC G1...Samsung should stick to TVs, where they do pretty well...but again, I am partial to HTC...and if u do get the galaxy 3, u will not be able to notice difference in speed unless u run benchmark tests, which are irrelevant in real world use of a phone...but it's personal preference...
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Sadly I'm from UK so, in case, the HOX will be international Quadcore (AT&T seems faster from the test I saw).
Actually from some video I saw on youtube the interface of HOX seems to be laggy sometimes (like it takes time to scroll the homescreen and so on) and so I thought that a faster CPU would help.
I would like to bring to your attention this test http://www.mobileblog.it/post/20433...batte-tutta-la-concorrenza-nei-test-benchmark (sadly the page is in italian but the photo of the test are in english) and HOX int is ALWAYS so far away from GS3
I also eared that the cpu of GS3 has less nm (so it's smaller) and so, in theory, will be even more overcloackable.
Can you confirm this for me please?
Unless you're planning on using your phone to find the 500 billionth decimal of pi, or to find a cure for cancer, I think you're reading into it far too much.
Perhaps it IS a much faster phone in benchmarks, but that gives you no real idea in real world use. Try out a One X in a shop or something. Honestly, it's overkill power, I've never had a single lag on it, and I too was looking for the most powerful thing I could find.
Lets face it, a week after you get the most powerful phone, another one twice as good came out (My friend bought the SGS not long before I got my HOX and it was amazing when it came out), and at the end of the day, what are you -really- using your phone for that demands such power?