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Note: I'm hoping this is the correct place for this thread, hopefully others with this same phone would benefit from it, as this sub-forum seems barren of any guides on what I am looking for
After Christmas, I decided to get my first smart phone, the D2G. I ordered it through Newegg and had it linked to a family account on Verizon.
So what I currently have now is Android 2.2, System Version 2.4.330.A956.Verizon.en.us, and tons of Verizon branded bloat.
My goal is that I would like to install a vanilla version of gingerbread. Being my first smartphone, and my first time on these forums, I'm greatly lacking in knowledge of these phones and how to get from where I am at to where I want to be. What I do have, however, is an understanding of operating system architecture, UNIX experience and good technical knowledge of PCs. I understand what rooting means, what apps are, what a bootstrap does, however I know nothing of how to get or use these things on this phone, nor any idea where to look for this information. Because this phone is on contract (and thus only paid $150 for it), I'm hoping to minimize the risk of bricking it, or otherwise costing me more money.
What I am looking for: any information/guides/links that will help me to get me from Android 2.2 to a vanilla version of gingerbread on the D2G. From what I have gathered from other threads is that I need to root it (by installing z4root I read), boot in recovery mode, then install ROMs. None of those things I know how to do right now. I suppose helping me learn how to do those would be a great start.
tl;dr I need a layman's guide to get gingerbread on D2G
Thanks in advance for any help
To begin you won't be able to get Gingerbread until Motorola releases an update. The Droid 2 (and D2 Global) have a locked bootloader which means the kernel can't be changed except by Motorola. Without a kernel upgrade Gingerbread will remain out of reach.
You can, however, grab some things that have been backported from Gingerbread like the keyboard and theme. As time goes by more and more external things from Gingerbread will become available for non-GB users, but certain things that rely on the GB kernel will be elusive.
Now as for FroYo, there currently isn't a completely working AOSP (Android Open Source Project) ROM yet. Fission and GummyJAR strip away as much Blur as possible and work towards AOSP. Unleashed, Ultimate Droid, and Tanzanite are all AOSP ROMs in development but are lacking full functionality at the moment. Basically you've got to pick your poison: AOSP-like that works or AOSP that's not quite done.
Given that you have a D2 Global I'd personally hold off on changing ROMs at the moment. The D2G SBF (System Boot File) hasn't been leaked yet so if anything were to go wrong while changing ROMs your phone would be bricked until the SBF is released. A SBF allows you to revert your phone back to its out-of-the-box state should anything go wrong; your phone can be in a boot loop but you can turn it on in a way that will allow you to get things back to square one at least. Without the SBF you're really taking a gamble.
Alright, so I take it I just got too new of a phone then ~_~
thanks
Don't be too upset that your phone is too new yet...
Just be very careful with what you try for now.
It is just over a year since I got my first Droid and while there were plenty of hacks and roms for that back then, few were really STABLE. It didn't take long before not only were stable roms available, they were far better and included features that were not supposed to be on the phone.
Including overclocking it to twice the stock speed.
The D2G is in a similar place right now but the whole "eFuse" thing makes hacking a lot trickier. Its much easier to brick a D2/DX than an original Droid.
BUt progress is being made and there is little doubt in my mind that all the devs out there will make this phone what it should be just like they did with the Droid.
Gingerbread will get to us eventually, but for now Fission rom has already improved my D2G 100% over stock.
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Gingerbread will get to us eventually, but for now Fission rom has already improved my D2G 100% over stock.
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Interested in Fission, but as I have previously stated, I'm quite clueless for the time being
Is this something that is safe?
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Interested in Fission, but as I have previously stated, I'm quite clueless for the time being
Is this something that is safe?
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If you want 100% safe- leave your phone exactly as you received it.
Seriously.
There is risk in doing this stuff, even when we are simply taking advantage of the very risky work done by devs to figure out HOW to modify our phones.
Generally speaking, the longer you wait the less risky it is, but the fact is that there is never ZERO danger to it. Even if all the mods and hacks you use are time tested and there has not been a single bug found by anyone- flashing a rom can go wrong and leave a device bricked.
Even flashing a manufacturer provided BIOS on a computer has risk.
All of that said, if you want to minimize risk, wait just a little while for the bugs to be worked out more thoroughly.
I just saw that there is now an SBF for the D2G last night- that helps provide a buffer for accidents (disaster recovery!) but I don't know how well tested it is. We should know fairly soon- quite a few folks with bricked phones have been waiting for it!
I would say that right now the D2G has risk in the "moderate" range- new phone, not that much dev time, etc.
The only other phone I have personal experience with is the original Droid- risk on that is "minimal." Hard to kill those things.
All that said, I have accepted the risk and did so before the sbf was out. I have had no problems at all so far.
IF you choose to do so, I highly recommend following instructions exactly and making sure you know what you are doing and why.
I don't mean to talk you or anyone else out of improving their smart phone, but I do believe that realistic risk assessment is a wise thing to do before starting.
I used the SBF to flash my phone 2 days ago, with no issues.
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Generally speaking, the longer you wait the less risky it is, but the fact is that there is never ZERO danger to it.
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All of that said, if you want to minimize risk, wait just a little while for the bugs to be worked out more thoroughly.
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I have a D2 and I got it pretty new a few months ago it was my first Android phone but I watched the forums and learned as things became available how to do it all. I watched as the device everyone thought wasn't even going to get root access got it, then the ROMs came; it wasn't easy and they aren't like the ROMs that came for previous devices because of the locks Moto put on the phone. But, we were happy with it and I've been pleasantly surprised at what the devs have come up with and have been running custom ROMs so long I don't remember what stock was even like. I just know it wasn't as cool as the custom stuff I'm running.
So hang in there and read all you can about your device or similar devices (D2, DX, DPro) so that when something comes along that you want to try you know what to do to make it work and what to do if it doesn't go as planned.
i have since gotten a mytouch 4g so i dont frequent the xt forum anymore but i figured you guys would be interested in this. it is directly from cincinnati bells facebook page and was posted about a week ago. just figured you guys might be interested. im not sure what exactly this means (official?), so take it for what its worth
We do have a 2.2 OS upgrade for the Milestone in testing. If it gets approval we will announce it within the next two weeks.
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UPDATE:
We are still working on an upgrade for the Motorola Milestone to Android 2.2. More info will be posted once the upgrade is available.
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this looks promising guys!
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i have since gotten a mytouch 4g so i dont frequent the xt forum anymore but i figured you guys would be interested in this. it is directly from cincinnati bells facebook page and was posted about a week ago. just figured you guys might be interested. im not sure what exactly this means (official?), so take it for what its worth
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This would be awesome! T-minus two weeks... That does seem too specific to allow weaseling.
Edit: I take that back. T-minus sometime this week?!?
I assume the only Milestone Cincinnati bell carries is the XT720 so it could only mean that when it says Milestone?
Official 2.2. would be nice. Though I'd love to see them add 2.3 by now since I do have 2.2 an official version would be good to fix some issues I assume (and it would be cool if they changed stuff like they did for the Droid X gingerbread update - status bar +UI improvements etc...).
Though hypothetically, if this did happen would the update only be for Cincinnati Bell users and the rest of us would have to get the benefits over here on XDA only?
Yes the XT720 is the only Milestone in CBs lineup. The Motorola update page still lists the US XT720 as staying on 2.1 so I guess we'll just to wait & see.
I really do hope its some sort of official build. I still have the xt as my backup phone, but the mytouch is my daily driver. Hope for the best guys!
aaaah, just unlock the ****in bootloader or give us 2.3
who needs 2.2 for now, dexter and the other developers (khalpowers, mioze7oe and so on) did GREAT work
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aaaah, just unlock the ****in bootloader or give us 2.3
who needs 2.2 for now, dexter and the other developers (khalpowers, mioze7oe and so on) did GREAT work
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It would be nice to get a kernel version bump like the Milestone did. And a more froyo-friendly partition layout would be nice too. We'll see.
I will be going to the Cincinnati Bell store tomorrow after work to yell at them for messing up my bill...again.
I will be sure to inquire about this when I go.
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I assume the only Milestone Cincinnati bell carries is the XT720 so it could only mean that when it says Milestone?
Official 2.2. would be nice. Though I'd love to see them add 2.3 by now since I do have 2.2 an official version would be good to fix some issues I assume (and it would be cool if they changed stuff like they did for the Droid X gingerbread update - status bar +UI improvements etc...).
Though hypothetically, if this did happen would the update only be for Cincinnati Bell users and the rest of us would have to get the benefits over here on XDA only?
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Well, if a CB 2.2 was leaked, and could be successfully read... I think, but am definitely not sure, that we could use recovery to flash boot.img/system.img?
Anybody care to correct me on this?
Check with Dexter or Khalpower. may be CincyBell bought their ROM and testing for upgrade. lol
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Well, if a CB 2.2 was leaked, and could be successfully read... I think, but am definitely not sure, that we could use recovery to flash boot.img/system.img?
Anybody care to correct me on this?
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We'll have to see. It depends on whether the partition sizes changed. Motorola likes to include the partition tables in the kernel so that would require flashing sbf to use a new boot.img. If they use the same kernel version, we can probably make an update.zip to deal with changes in system.img changed size. We'll have to see what if anything we get.
Well, I talked to several people at Cincinnati Bell today...
It's not looking good. I was told that there were quite a number of people at Cincinnati Bell who were working on this project, and that a legitimate ROM was produced and tested, BUT... Motorola doesn't want them to release it. I wasn't told why, but you can guess. Motorola hates all of us and secretly wants us all dead. Kidding.
Seriously though, it sounded like Cincinnati Bell DOES have a working froyo ROM. If only someone had a way of getting their hands on it....
I'll keep trying.
Sounds like we need to invite one of their field testers to a bar, gizmodo style.
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Sounds like we need to invite one of their field testers to a bar, gizmodo style.
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Exactly. I'll buy the first round.
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Well, I talked to several people at Cincinnati Bell today...
It's not looking good. I was told that there were quite a number of people at Cincinnati Bell who were working on this project, and that a legitimate ROM was produced and tested, BUT... Motorola doesn't want them to release it. I wasn't told why, but you can guess. Motorola hates all of us and secretly wants us all dead. Kidding.
Seriously though, it sounded like Cincinnati Bell DOES have a working froyo ROM. If only someone had a way of getting their hands on it....
I'll keep trying.
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thanks for your work..hope that they do well and release it soon...love xt720 & **** Motorola on that case
If someone would point me in the direction of the FTP site its hosted on ... i might have a leak for you guys
you know what would be ironic?...
if and when they do really release an official 2.2 for the XT720
we all flash it, and find it was actually the 1.3 made by Dexter's ROM but rebranded
LOL that will really make my day
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you know what would be ironic?...
if and when they do really release an official 2.2 for the XT720
we all flash it, and find it was actually the 1.3 made by Dexter's ROM but rebranded
LOL that will really make my day
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Sightings of Cincinnati Bell XT720 running 2.2 in employee hands predate the Motoroi 2.2 release. Also, I discussed froyo at length and its development progress at Cincinnati Bell when I purchased my XT720 early last September.
If you want to get even more speculative, http://smartphonebenchmarks.com/ reports performance results for XT720 running 2.3 (not sure if this is easy to fake, though). Where are these ROMs!?!
2.3 ??
I only find results for our XT720 with Dexter's 2.2 on the page you posted.
but I don't comprehend why Motorola doesn't even want to unlock our bootloaders.. I mean that shouldn't be that much work for them and so the customers could do the things on their own and Motorola can continue ignoring us and not giving us any updates???
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2.3 ??
I only find results for our XT720 with Dexter's 2.2 on the page you posted.
but I don't comprehend why Motorola doesn't even want to unlock our bootloaders.. I mean that shouldn't be that much work for them and so the customers could do the things on their own and Motorola can continue ignoring us and not giving us any updates???
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Go "Advanced Filter" and select "Motorola Milestone XT720". There are results for 2.3.2. This direct link may work, but I'm not sure:
http://smartphonebenchmarks.com/index.php?filter_model[]=Motorola+Milestone+XT720
I went from a Motorola Milestone to a Droid 2 Global. And as much as I am enjoying the Fission ROM from Team DeFuse, I am wondering why there seems to be such low interest in the Droid 2 Global compared to the original Droid 2? Can anyone give me some info as to why this is the case? I realize that with the Droid 2 globals additional radios that that transcribes to more work to get those operational in a custom ROM, I just dont understand why this powerful phone is ignored and left to sit on the curb. Thank you to all in advance.
1. The Global is hard to dev for. There aren't many Global devices to go off of, so the radios are hard to get 100% working on custom roms
2. It was launched silently. No one really knows it exists, so it just didn't receive the initial dev bump that phones usually get when they're first released
3. It didn't sell very well. I can't speak for the whole sales numbers, but my friend who works for Verizon Corporate (or something like that) said the numbers weren't fantastic in New York.
4. Three devices is a lot. Any devs willing to work on the Global probably already work on the Droid X and Droid 2. Adding a third device to the list is just too much for people who do this as a hobby.
That's the best explanation I can give... sorry for how negative it was, lol.
To be fair, the D2G is receiving more support this last month or so. Look on droidforums.net, some good work being done on there (3 or 4 roms available).
I will keep an eye out on droidforums. I was also thinking that with the possibility of 2.3 coming out for it most devs dont (myself included) see a point in making a ROM on froyo when 2.3 is around the corner. Thank you for your input. Its much appreciated
Most of the correct answers were already stated...
Just wated to point out that only people who truly needed global support would buy the D2G.
Droid Pro got play merely because it was targeted at the Crackberry crowd conversion which really didn't work.
Those are the only two GLOBAL phone I know of. Doesn't make sense to make many more with the 4G revolution under way.
Business have bought into the form factor but the Devs they all look at the performance specs and the EASE of development regarding the model.
The biggest issue though is the locked bootloader! Since the boot loader is locked you can not run custom Kernels so any development that could be made is limited to the stock kernel.
All of the Motorola development you see regarding phone with lockd bootloaders are really nothing more than a bunch of stock and AOSP apps and system files that change the look and the startup sequence but the base code that runs the phone pretty much stays the same!
I would love to see more people making ROMs for the unit but what I really want to see is the unlocking of that boot loader.
If we managed to do that then none of us would be worrying how many roms were available or which one updates next.
We would probably all be running Cyanogen at this point and merely wait for the next release of stable! And also be looking for the next great Kernel update to make it even better!
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Most of the correct answers were already stated...
Just wated to point out that only people who truly needed global support would buy the D2G.
Droid Pro got play merely because it was targeted at the Crackberry crowd conversion which really didn't work.
Those are the only two GLOBAL phone I know of. Doesn't make sense to make many more with the 4G revolution under way.
Business have bought into the form factor but the Devs they all look at the performance specs and the EASE of development regarding the model.
The biggest issue though is the locked bootloader! Since the boot loader is locked you can not run custom Kernels so any development that could be made is limited to the stock kernel.
All of the Motorola development you see regarding phone with lockd bootloaders are really nothing more than a bunch of stock and AOSP apps and system files that change the look and the startup sequence but the base code that runs the phone pretty much stays the same!
I would love to see more people making ROMs for the unit but what I really want to see is the unlocking of that boot loader.
If we managed to do that then none of us would be worrying how many roms were available or which one updates next.
We would probably all be running Cyanogen at this point and merely wait for the next release of stable! And also be looking for the next great Kernel update to make it even better!
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Won't anyone who wants a keyboard on verizon also get the D2G? I mean it's the only half decent phone with a physical qwerty keyboard on verizon, and the droid 2 itself was phased out months ago, 4 months ago when I got my D2G you couldn't get a new Droid 2 at verizon, though I think Best Buy might have still had them, though they were just clearing out stock.
Also I thought fact that everything has to be signed is the problem with the phone. When you don't know how to sign the kernel and other things the phone has hardware to autobrick which is why no one can get around it. Tons of phones out there have locked bootloaders that are gotten around well before or within a few days of the phone being released. If it was just the locked bootloader then I'd say motorola has found the holy grail of security, because everything else out there has been hacked through.
The problem isn't that the bootloader is signed, its that its encrypted. Newer htc phones have bootloaders that require signed kernels and people have found ways around them already, the encryption prevents us from loading custom software on it.
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Is there a project for an android rom 2.3 with baseband Europe or USA? I like the work being done, but an android rom 2.3 would make a big difference for this phone.
One suggestion would be to make a port of the Milestone 2.3 rom. Or use a Cyanogem 2.3.5. If developers need help testing or other things, I am available.
But I want to make this suggestion which I think is helpful.
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Is there a project for an android rom 2.3 with baseband Europe or USA? I like the work being done, but an android rom 2.3 would make a big difference for this phone.
One suggestion would be to make a port of the Milestone 2.3 rom. Or use a Cyanogem 2.3.5. If developers need help testing or other things, I am available.
But I want to make this suggestion which I think is helpful.
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hey bud, welcome to our forum as I suppose you are new. We are very fortunate with the ROM's we have presented to you as it has been a long tough road for the few Dev's we are so fortunate to have here. Considering Moto did not offer us an upgrade to 2.2 and the locked bootloader it has been a tough road to 2.2, as most other good phones with less or same as or better Hardware all got the 2.2 upgrades, therefore it was easier for the Dev's of those phones to proceed forward to a 2.3 ROM. We are very proud of the progress our dev's have made to help bring us 2.2 we are just now getting close to perfection. So you may have come at a good time, your struggle to get to 2.2 is already bypassed and there are a few Dev's currently working on ways to bring us 2.3. If you take the time to look around the threads you can see their progress. As for me, I am very grateful for our 2.2's since Moto never intended for us to have it! lol.
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hey bud, welcome to our forum as I suppose you are new. We are very fortunate with the ROM's we have presented to you as it has been a long tough road for the few Dev's we are so fortunate to have here. Considering Moto did not offer us an upgrade to 2.2 and the locked bootloader it has been a tough road to 2.2, as most other good phones with less or same as or better Hardware all got the 2.2 upgrades, therefore it was easier for the Dev's of those phones to proceed forward to a 2.3 ROM. We are very proud of the progress our dev's have made to help bring us 2.2 we are just now getting close to perfection. So you may have come at a good time, your struggle to get to 2.2 is already bypassed and there are a few Dev's currently working on ways to bring us 2.3. If you take the time to look around the threads you can see their progress. As for me, I am very grateful for our 2.2's since Moto never intended for us to have it! lol.
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Definitely agreed I remember the time when I saw this forum asking Dexter to help make 2.2 ROM and since then, the devs here have managed to make many wonderful and stable 2.2 ROMs. As for me, I'm not too concerned with gingerbread cos I perfectly happy with the 2.2 ROMs!!
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I believe Mioze7Ae is working on CM7, along with his other projects
Since Google has purchased Moto, I hope it gets better. But I'm so glad to be part of XDA member. I got my 2.2 from XDA. Big thanks to those who work on upgrading our XT720!
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Definitely agreed I remember the time when I saw this forum asking Dexter to help make 2.2 ROM and since then, the devs here have managed to make many wonderful and stable 2.2 ROMs. As for me, I'm not too concerned with gingerbread cos I perfectly happy with the 2.2 ROMs!!
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Yep, I'm quite happy with my khal_power's 2.2 as well. It's very stable and way better than original ROM.
1-14-11 Update: Some, remain disappointed that the ICS update remains in flux prior to its release on the G2x phone series.
I have carefully updated the FAQ below to address all the concerns raised in the various replies. Hopefully to those critical, your thorough review of differences and key updates in the FAQ, as reflected below, shall meet with your satisfaction.
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Here it is: The ICS release on the G2X FAQ.
QUESTION: Has the CM team said they are working on it, and they will release it free of charge when its done?
ANSWER: YES
QUESTION: LG has basically said that the entire series of phones released on the G2x reference platform will all be getting ICS, so LG will release ICS for the G2x, and the only factor is now total time right?
ANSWER: Yes yes yes yes yes. The G2x is getting ICS.
QUESTION: So basically ICS is coming to the G2x from both official and unofficial channels.
ANSWER: YES
QUESTION: Will you tell me when ICS for the G2X. done, and post a thread announcing it, and allow me to download it and use ICS.
ANSWER: YES
QUESTION: Is it done yet? Is ICS ready for the G2x now? Now? How about now? waiting waiting NOW? I just heard a new rumor that it running and ready and its ready and I just want to confirm is it finally done now?
ANSWER: NO
QUESTION: I was told that being a total butt-wipe and protesting and saying that I will boycott LG and Nvidia is going to help the developers These butt-wipes want me to go in and start wiping with them. Will this help get ICS on the G2x faster.
ANSWER: NO.
QUESTION: I would like a fresh update on the status of the ICS build for the G2x....so.....IS THE ICS UPDATE READY NOW?????
ANSWER: NO.
QUESTION: I have suddenly become aware that the ICS update has been released, that everyone is using it, and that there has been no public posting about how to download the new ICS update. Can I have it now since you are all using it.
ANSWER: Its not ready, and NO.
QUESTION: I am really wanting this ICS, can I have the ALPHA BETA ANDROMEDA Strain testing version now.
ANSWER: NO, when its ready you can have it.
QUESTION: Hey guess what phone X just got ICS up and working, but the G2x does not. I think our developers suck. I am going to create a thread that blames Nvidia for this shameful delay, but anyone reading between the lines will see that I think our developers suck, and that all the good developers are working on other phones. Sooooo would starting a thread to shame the developers for not being all that good be a way to get ICS on the my G2x faster.
ANSWER: NO.
QUESTION: Phone Z just got it, looks like we are going to be 3rd and at least 6 days after phone Z, this sucks, I just started a thread saying the same, and have posted excessively on 6 other similar threads. This is helpful and helping the developers right?
ANSWER: Wrong.
QUESTION: I have no need for any of the new features on ICS, but want to overclock my G2x with ICS so as I can post my high numbers for benchmark scores. Since I am a real power-user right along with Pi using the phone to the fullest, can I get a special early release of ICS.
ANSWER: NO
QUESTION: Ready it is! Now?
ANSWER: NO. And that is the worst Yoda impersonation.
QUESTION: I have more questions, except they are already answered, would it help if ask again, start a new thread maybe.
ANSWER: NO
QUESTION: I have just one more question so let me start it this way....
ANSWER: Its not done yet.
QUESTION: How about now?
ANSWER: NO
Note: For others wanting to re-purpose this FAQ for their phones, a shout-out for tombaker would be nice.
Dude, this is great. One question though-
Is the ICS build done yet?
No!
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LOL
Couldn't have said it better myself. Thanks for the laughs!
how about now? can we have it?
Awesome! I really like the part about needing ics features. Don't misunderstand, I want ics as much as the next guy, but in reality my phone can already do everything I ask of it. I've played with a galaxy nexus and my phone does pretty much what it does, just goes about some of it a little different.
Sorry but I don't have the time to read through the whole thread and I just have one question or concern:
I've heard that ICS is ready for some devices so doesn't that mean that it's ready now? I just need a beta version for the facial recognition feature. I'm also going to start a thread flaming LG for not releasing an official version.
nice post. however, let me phrase it this way.. is..? hehe..
thanks for the updates!
I saw a YouTube video of the g2x running ics. Can I haz now
Also lg hates us g2x owners so I will make a petition to let them know we bought there phone. Since they announced a ics release for all there other phones they must hate g2x really bad.
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if they cant figure it out by now, i think it will be very long wait because they trying to find out. i told you i bought the wrong phone. hd2 ftw hahaha more roms and more better faster developers/
Please read the OP. It says it all. It is not ready NOW. It will be released when and only when it is ready. Give them time to get it right.
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Please read the OP. It says it all. It is not ready NOW. It will be released when and only when it is ready. Give them time to get it right.
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I'd have to say... Everyone but possibly tainle was being sarcastic.
I have to take issue with one part of this Faq...
That LG has said the 2X is getting ICS is not true - they *NEVER* said that the G2X will get it. You may disagree with me here, but this is an *important* distinction. Why?
1) T-Mobile has to REQUEST and APPROVE the update for it to happen.
2) T-Mobile has a history of NOT Requesting and Approving updates for devices with "nearly identical except for the radio" devices in the past - such as the Vibrant, which got no Gingerbread despite *every* other major Galaxy S variant having it.
Until LG specifically says "G2X" is getting ICS, I would put it into the column of "maybe" and not definitely.
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I have to take issue with one part of this Faq...
That LG has said the 2X is getting ICS is not true - they *NEVER* said that the G2X will get it. You may disagree with me here, but this is an *important* distinction. Why?
1) T-Mobile has to REQUEST and APPROVE the update for it to happen.
2) T-Mobile has a history of NOT Requesting and Approving updates for devices with "nearly identical except for the radio" devices in the past - such as the Vibrant, which got no Gingerbread despite *every* other major Galaxy S variant having it.
Until LG specifically says "G2X" is getting ICS, I would put it into the column of "maybe" and not definitely.
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True, but they did say the O2x would get the update. It almost certainly wouldn't be stock, but devs on the forum have made it seem like it isn't the most difficult thing porting to the G2x. Mind you, I have absolutely no idea myself, so it could be very difficult. It's still probably easier than writing drivers or finding ways to hack the phone around existing already compiled ones.
EDIT: My bad, forgot that I've only seen ports from one to the other of CM7 based things like MIUI.
Danishswag said:
True, but they did say the O2x would get the update. It almost certainly wouldn't be stock, but devs on the forum have made it seem like it isn't the most difficult thing porting to the G2x. Mind you, I have absolutely no idea myself, so it could be very difficult. It's still probably easier than writing drivers or finding ways to hack the phone around existing already compiled ones.
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I don't know which Devs said porting it would be easy, but so far NOBODY has been able to port G2X and O2X Roms either direction with stock LG Code. CM based Roms, YES, but Factory Stock, NO... The radio files are very different and all attempts to port - by some very talented Devs - have ended in a nice looking rom that can't make calls.
That's not to say that if ICS were the prize, someone couldn't come up with a way, but it's *still* not a guarantee.
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Not trying to create drama or anything, but I just think that a FAQ should stick with the facts and not hopes.
lotherius said:
I don't know which Devs said porting it would be easy, but so far NOBODY has been able to port G2X and O2X Roms either direction with stock LG Code. CM based Roms, YES, but Factory Stock, NO... The radio files are very different and all attempts to port - by some very talented Devs - have ended in a nice looking rom that can't make calls.
That's not to say that if ICS were the prize, someone couldn't come up with a way, but it's *still* not a guarantee.
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I agree, the carriers don't want interchangeability of phones with their competitors' services. That's why the radio frequencies are not shared, they're fragmented between the carriers as is Android for their phones. I only recently got an Android phone but I now realize that the Open Source promise is a fraud.
tainle said:
if they cant figure it out by now, i think it will be very long wait because they trying to find out. i told you i bought the wrong phone. hd2 ftw hahaha more roms and more better faster developers/
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The faulty hardware of the HD2 is a plus also. You should include that next time.
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There is at least potentially one P999 device sold as an Optimus 2X - by Wind Mobile. Potentially there may be another sold by Cincinnati Bell Wireless.
LG says ALL O2X devices are getting ICS. There is a P999 sold as O2X. How is there even debate over this? After getting sued once over failing to deliver a ROM update, do you think LG is really going to fool around with technicalities?
Thats probably something else to consider from LGs point of view. TMobile didn't get sued, LG did. If I were running LG, I would make very sure to fulfill my promises this time around.
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I have to take issue with one part of this Faq...
That LG has said the 2X is getting ICS is not true - they *NEVER* said that the G2X will get it. You may disagree with me here, but this is an *important* distinction. Why?
1) T-Mobile has to REQUEST and APPROVE the update for it to happen.
2) T-Mobile has a history of NOT Requesting and Approving updates for devices with "nearly identical except for the radio" devices in the past - such as the Vibrant, which got no Gingerbread despite *every* other major Galaxy S variant having it.
Until LG specifically says "G2X" is getting ICS, I would put it into the column of "maybe" and not definitely.
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There's a new version of Android out? How come no-one's talking about it?
But more seriously thanks to tombaker1 for the humorous post.
Core Memory said:
I agree, the carriers don't want interchangeability of phones with their competitors' services. That's why the radio frequencies are not shared, they're fragmented between the carriers as is Android for their phones. I only recently got an Android phone but I now realize that the Open Source promise is a fraud.
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How is the android open source promise a fraud? I mean you do realize that they released ICS source right? Up until recently, they couldn't control what vendors did with their phones. Now, with Android being the most used phone OS, they have a little more control on everything.
A lot of people tend to blame Google/Android for the mistakes brought on with a company's phone. I know that an iPhone fanboy here at work made a comment everytime about Android when my G2x died, when it was obviously the phone itself.