Still haven't figured out this whole thread tagging business, so mods are welcome to move/rename this thread properly if I got it wrong.
I'm considering the transformer just for that sweet keyboard dock. But I need to be able to type in Hebrew. Anyone know if this is possible with the hardware keyboard?
As far as I understand how Android works, it's the keyboard that's responsible for determining the language it's typing (instead of sending keycodes for the operating system to decode and translate to the preferred language). So my guess is that the answer is no, but if anyone would know, they'd probably be roaming these forums...
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I think it's up to the input method engine (IME) to determine exactly what to send to an application. I believe an IME has the option of intercepting hardware keys and doing different things with it.
So, if there is a Hebrew IME you would like to use, it may work. It probably won't handle all of the hardware keys, but it'd probably be a start.
So does that mean that I need to talk to a software keyboard dev to support Hebrew on hardware keyboards?
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Fyi I have the dock and I'm french canadian, and though the dock works great (especially with Polaris, you can actually get work done with this tablet!) I still haven't found a way to type accented chars. I can't believe they didn't think about it, my guess is there is a way to do it but I just don't know how. Probably the same for hebrew. I'll let you know if I find something! On the virtual keyboard, I use thumb keyboard, which is amazing...
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PuerkitoBio said:
Fyi I have the dock and I'm french canadian, and though the dock works great (especially with Polaris, you can actually get work done with this tablet!) I still haven't found a way to type accented chars. I can't believe they didn't think about it, my guess is there is a way to do it but I just don't know how. Probably the same for hebrew. I'll let you know if I find something! On the virtual keyboard, I use thumb keyboard, which is amazing...
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There are two new SKUs with Canadian bilingual hardware keboard.
ok, found out how to do accented characters with the keyboard dock. It's really simple in fact, it goes hand-in-hand with the language defined for the Asus Keyboard on the TF. My TF is configured in english, and I use Thumb Keybord in english as my virtual keyboard (which handles accents very well), but when I plug into the dock, I just switch to Asus Keyboard, configured in french. So I now have all I need (ex: éáàùìçêẽ). My guess is it would work the same way for Hebrew. I can't try it since I don't have the Hebrew language pack, but I know Google package different language packs in their OS based on where it's headed.
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Hi,
After I have installed ICS, I cannot use any other input language with the hardware keyboard. It is always English. No matter what keyboard I select: Android (Russian), Smart Keyboard or whatever I have english letters appear on key presses. On Honeycomb I had ASUS Keyboard which allowed to switch language using Ctrl-Space combination. Now I don't have the ASUS keyboard anymore. Have anyone been successful in typing non-English on the dock keyboard?
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I have already made a quick hack keyboard to produce russian characters on dock keyboard key presses and switch to english using Ctrl-Space. It should be pretty straight forward to add other european languages if some one would like me to. Chinese, Japanese and Korean is tough and I have no plans to support them.
If anyone is interested, here is the hacked by me standard ICS android keyboard, which allows to type both russian and english on Transformer's dock keyboard. Left_Ctrl+Space changes layout. All other features should work correctly - soft keyboard, voice input...
Here is my moded keyboard discussion thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1528322
Hi!
Quick question. My goal is to have the system language as english and the language on the keyboard dock as norwegian. Currently im only able to get norwegian layout on my keyboard when my system language is set to norwegian and keyboard is the asus standard one. Id like to use swiftkey. I hope someone has a smart tips for me!
- helfone
If you have root you can try this.
EDIT: LINK https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.klswitcherad&feature=more_from_developer#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEwMiwiY29tLmtsc3dpdGNoZXJhZCJd
It worked for me, so I could use Hackers Keyboard and an Swiss-German Keyboard on the Dock Layout.
Nahakiole said:
If you have root you can try this.
It worked for me, so I could use Hackers Keyboard and an Swiss-German Keyboard on the Dock Layout.
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Try what exactly?
I had the same issue. I want to use English (US) for the system language and Norwegian for the keyboard. I switched to Asus keyboard and set it to Norwegian only, I set the Android keyboard to Norwegian only, and that worked. I'm getting my øæå's while still using US as system language
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Thanks for the replys! I did what both of you said and it now works almost perfectly. I have my special keyboards in most cases, ex. like when chatting on gtalk i have them. But when in chrome and replying to this message in the quick reply box I dont have them. I can get them by undocking and using the onscreen keyboard. But not while docked, not on any of the keyboards (stock, asus, swiftkey).
Any tips for this?
Just tried the same scenario in boat browser and it works there, so seems to be a chrome problem. I really prefer chrome, so if anyone could help me out that I'd apprechiate it!
[Q] The single&double quote key on the dock not working? -and a bit on accented chars
Yesterday I did a factory reset on my TF700 (JB 4.1.1). Today I was typing and found that the single/double quote key was not working on my dock keyboard. My settings where Asus Dutch Keyboard. When I switch to Asus English Keyboard or the Android Dutch or English keyboard the key is working. When I use the screen keyboard with the Asus Dutch keyboard setting I can also type a ".
So it is only when I use the dock keyboard that it is not working. Maybe somebody can shed some light on the issue?
Another question on the docking keyboard. Is there a way to type symbol like ê or ë etc on the docking keyboard?
Edit:
Both issues have been fixed in the 10.4.4.23 firmware update. The double quote key is working again and a accented character can be typed for instance by typing a ["] and an [e] in sequence. Unfortunately this is not working when typing in a browser. But in the email app it is working.
ZoldarVL said:
Yesterday I did a factory reset on my TF700 (JB 4.1.1). Today I was typing and found that the single/double quote key was not working on my dock keyboard. My settings where Asus Dutch Keyboard. When I switch to Asus English Keyboard or the Android Dutch or English keyboard the key is working. When I use the screen keyboard with the Asus Dutch keyboard setting I can also type a ".
So it is only when I use the dock keyboard that it is not working. Maybe somebody can shed some light on the issue?
Another question on the docking keyboard. Is there a way to type symbol like ê or ë etc on the docking keyboard?
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Well, you found out the issue yourself: it is dependent on the type of underlying ASUS keyboard you choose. Well-known by now, to be honest, but your issue is right there.
MartyHulskemper said:
Well, you found out the issue yourself: it is dependent on the type of underlying ASUS keyboard you choose. Well-known by now, to be honest, but your issue is right there.
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Couldn't find it on the forum that's why I raised the question. Probably my bad search skills Thanx for answering. Now it's waiting for Asus to fix this.
Eh? It worked in .18.. I specifically remember the @ and " keys being fixed in it.. Dafuq Asus?
Why not just use the US keyboard? All keyboards in the Netherlands have been the US QWERTY keyboard since well before the turn of the millenium. The old original Dutch keyboard became redundant decades ago.
(I don't think we've ever used it to begin with. We're too busy running after the US.. Which for once i'm glad for, as the original NL keyboard was crap.)
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Eh? It worked in .18.. I specifically remember the @ and " keys being fixed in it.. Dafuq Asus?
Why not just use the US keyboard? All keyboards in the Netherlands have been the US QWERTY keyboard since well before the turn of the millenium. The old original Dutch keyboard became redundant decades ago.
(I don't think we've ever used it to begin with. We're too busy running after the US.. Which for once i'm glad for, as the original NL keyboard was crap.)
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The Asus Dutch Keyboard is not the keyboard you are refering to. Which is in fact ancient and I only saw one back in the 90s. The ASUS Dutch Keyboard used to be the same as the Asus English (US) keyboard except the input language is set to Dutch so it does Dutch spelling check. But you got me thinking because the keyboard I use it listed as ASUS Dutch (Holland) keyboard. Maybe it should be ASUS Dutch (US) keyboard.
But I don't know how to change this setting. Anybody can help out?
Ah. I always thought the spellcheck was related to the system language? Since you set Spell checker under Language, and not Keyboard & Input. (Suggestive typing drove me to near insanity, so I turned it off...) (I only type in English and my system language is set to UK English, so I never noticed whether the spellcheck is related to the keyboard or not.)
There used to be a Holland and US variant... Where the hell did that go? (I can't find it either.)
Yes, I think the spell check language is the system language (by default, and I have found no other way to change it). Accented letters have never worked for me on this device, although others did report that on the German language default, they actually had them working. Now I think of this, I tried setting the tab's language to "Deutsch (Deutschland)" and indeed, I have accented letters! They do not correspond to the keys, however, so you're going to have a hard time typing this way. For example, the " ' " key gives an "ä".
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Yes, I think the spell check language is the system language (by default, and I have found no other way to change it). Accented letters have never worked for me on this device, although others did report that on the German language default, they actually had them working. Now I think of this, I tried setting the tab's language to "Deutsch (Deutschland)" and indeed, I have accented letters! They do not correspond to the keys, however, so you're going to have a hard time typing this way. For example, the " ' " key gives an "ä".
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Sorry I've to disagree on the spell checking being reliant on system language only. I've configured my system language as English and set the Spell Checker setting to ᷰ'Use system language' . Then when I go to the mail program and choose 'Asus English (US) keyboard' spell checking is in English. But when I change to 'Asus Dutch (Holland) Keyboard', spell checking is in Dutch.
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Sorry I've to disagree on the spell checking being reliant on system language only. I've configured my system language as English and set the Spell Checker setting to ᷰ'Use system language' . Then when I go to the mail program and choose 'Asus English (US) keyboard' spell checking is in English. But when I change to 'Asus Dutch (Holland) Keyboard', spell checking is in Dutch.
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Well, no matter what my selected keyboard is, if I select German as the system language I get the accented letters. *That* *was* your question, right? I can't remember you talking about the spell check, so it is not that relevant. You wanted accented letters, now you get them but you cannot type. In other words: soft keyboard for you, if need be.
EDIT: deep in the settings there turns out to be an option to bind the spell checker to a specific language, or system default. AFAIK, it shouldn't change when you simply select another keyboard when on the system default language option, but then it would not exactly be the first time that ASUS-injected stuff does funky things.
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Well, no matter what my selected keyboard is, if I select German as the system language I get the accented letters. *That* *was* your question, right? I can't remember you talking about the spell check, so it is not that relevant. You wanted accented letters, now you get them but you cannot type. In other words: soft keyboard for you, if need be.
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My original question was on the quote key not working when selecting Asus Dutch AND on international characters. The spell checking was introduced when ShadowLea was wondering why I wanted to use the Asus Dutch keyboard. I know I can set the language to German for accented characters but like you said totally unusable when using the dock keyboard. But I can live with the accented characters not working. But the quote key not working is a big pain in the ass. Like I said before I wait for Asus to fix this.
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My original question was on the quote key not working when selecting Asus Dutch AND on international characters. The spell checking was introduced when ShadowLea was wondering why I wanted to use the Asus Dutch keyboard. I know I can set the language to German for accented characters but like you said totally unusable when using the dock keyboard. But I can live with the accented characters not working. But the quote key not working is a big pain in the ass. Like I said before I wait for Asus to fix this.
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Hey, no offence meant. OT: the funny thing is that on CleanROM the quote/double qoute key is working fine for me (English/US system language). Have you tweaked anything else on your device?
EDIT: I do sometimes run into the accented letter issue, and then I am very annoyed. Trying to type something like "fiancée" or "René" causes me headaches every time. I have given it some thought just printing the ASCII code list.
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Hey, no offence meant. OT: the funny thing is that on CleanROM the quote/double qoute key is working fine for me (English/US system language). Have you tweaked anything else on your device?
EDIT: I do sometimes run into the accented letter issue, and then I am very annoyed. Trying to type something like "fiancée" or "René" causes me headaches every time. I have given it some thought just printing the ASCII code list.
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No offence taken. I have a stock Tf700, no tweaking yet. And on a stock rom the quote key is also working on Asus English keyboard/US system language. It's when I switch to Asus Dutch Keyboard it stops working and just inserts a space when pressed. I read on another forum what people using the Asus Potugese keyboard run into the same problems. So I guess there are more input languages that suffer the same problem.
Printing the Ascii list ... back to the days of word perfect
The workaround I found is pressing the little keyboard icon next to the docking icon in the notification bar. And then turn Physical Keyboard off. Doing this one can use the docking keyboard and the screen keyboard at the same time. So whenever I have to press a double/single quote or a accented character I use the screen keyboard. And it also enables me to switch back and forth input languages using the globe key on the screen keyboard (lower left side of the screen).
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Printing the Ascii list ... back to the days of word perfect
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Yeah, it's like a time machine. Only far worse.
The workaround I found is pressing the little keyboard icon next to the docking icon in the notification bar. And then turn Physical Keyboard off. Doing this one can use the docking keyboard and the screen keyboard at the same time. So whenever I have to press a double/single quote or a accented character I use the screen keyboard. And it also enables me to switch back and forth input languages using the globe key on the screen keyboard (lower left side of the screen).
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Albeit at the cost of screen real estate, this does seem like a viable workaround for now. Thanks for sharing.
Ah, the Ascii list... I still have one hanging on the wall behind my monitor, just for nostalgia's sake. (and lazyness, can't be bothered to go to 'edit, insert, symbol, scroll list...' just to get º. )
ShadowLea said:
Ah, the Ascii list... I still have one hanging on the wall behind my monitor, just for nostalgia's sake. (and lazyness, can't be bothered to go to 'edit, insert, symbol, scroll list...' just to get º. )
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It does come in handy sometimes. That being said, even the ASCII list doesn't work on the dock keyboard, so I'm SOL for now.
I updated the title of the thread so it better covers the content.
Well, for the accented characters you can use AltGR (right alt, but on the dock the only alt) + any of the letters:
ä = q
å = w
á = a
é - e
ü = y
ú = u
í = i
ó = o
ö = p
Sadly, this misses the ë. (Which really is the most accented letter in Dutch. -.- And probably the most hated in schools.)
Well, I just stumbled onto the ALT+SPACA shortcut. That might even be a saving grace for ZoldarVL. WT.... I guess I'm still not through with learning how to operate this thing.
@ShadowLea: the shortcuts you gave above are for the German lay-out, I presume? (They do not work on the English lay-out, obviously, since they never use these accented letters. How sad.)
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Well, I just stumbled onto the ALT+SPACA shortcut. That might even be a saving grace for ZoldarVL. WT.... I guess I'm still not through with learning how to operate this thing.
@ShadowLea: the shortcuts you gave above are for the German lay-out, I presume? (They do not work on the English lay-out, obviously, since they never use these accented letters. How sad.)
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Asus Dutch (Holland) Keyboard layout. The éáóúí work on the UK setting, none work on the US setting. (There's a boatload more signs under the dutch altgr combo, these are just the accented keys. Altgr+shift give even more)
And yes, the Alt+Space gives a symbol menu. Did I not mention that? Bugger, I thought I did...
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Well, for the accented characters you can use AltGR (right alt, but on the dock the only alt) + any of the letters:
ä = q
å = w
á = a
é - e
ü = y
ú = u
í = i
ó = o
ö = p
Sadly, this misses the ë. (Which really is the most accented letter in Dutch. -.- And probably the most hated in schools.)
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Also the ï is missing. Probably the second most accented letter in Dutch.
I'll try the solutions you guys provided and report back. Much abbliged.
Hello,
I am planning to buy an Asus Transformer Infinity, and as an Armenian language user, I simply do not imagine my life without Multiling Keyboard . But I'm not sure whether this keyboard will work with the dock or not. Will I have the same typing experience with the physical keyboard of the Asus Transformer as I have on-screen (layout etc.)? Has anyone tested it (not exactly the Armenian layout, but just the app with the dock)?
Most importantly, I want to make sure that I will be able to switch between English and a second (Armenian) with the keys combination, as in the case of the default Asus keyboard. Even if this is not a supported feature by default, maybe there are some solutions/fixes for this? I'm ready to root my device or tweak some system files and settings, if it will help.
The question is, there is no other app that supports Armenian input language even half as well as Miltiling Keyboard, that's why I would like to ask the Multiling users here to share your experience with me.
Thank you in advance.
I have been using multiling with the dock without major issue, but with English UK. The only problem I find is that the " ? ! etc characters will not be in the same place. However, you may be able to learn the new positions easily? I'm sorry that I'm not familiar with Armenian to know if there are other critical special characters you will need.
I keep meaning to investigate if it's possible to remap the characters on multiling. I believe it is a better soft keyboard than the Asus one, or the default android 4.1 keyboard which is also installed by default. I'm looking forward to trying the android 4.2 default keyboard.
Hope that helps.
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Gudders said:
I have been using multiling with the dock without major issue, but with English UK. The only problem I find is that the " ? ! etc characters will not be in the same place. However, you may be able to learn the new positions easily? I'm sorry that I'm not familiar with Armenian to know if there are other critical special characters you will need.
I keep meaning to investigate if it's possible to remap the characters on multiling. I believe it is a better soft keyboard than the Asus one, or the default android 4.1 keyboard which is also installed by default. I'm looking forward to trying the android 4.2 default keyboard.
Hope that helps.
Sent from my HTC One X+
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Thanks for the reply, Gudders . Have you tried to switch languages while you use Multiling with the dock, or you use only Engilsh UK? If it is not too difficult, can you please check the Armenian language in the Multiling settings in order to have two selected languages, and try to switch them with the dock (keys combinations, spacebar...), or at last just try to type something Armenian with the dock?
Thanks!
I have been trying to figure out the same but for Spanish. So far I haven't been able to get special characters to work from the dock keyboard. I haven't been able to get things like alt-134 to work for writing a ñ. I waited for 3 months for Asus to release a latin keyboard and they keep saying it is coming soon but it still is not available. I finally just bought an English version but so far haven't been able to figure this stuff out.
feleq said:
Thanks for the reply, Gudders . Have you tried to switch languages while you use Multiling with the dock, or you use only Engilsh UK? If it is not too difficult, can you please check the Armenian language in the Multiling settings in order to have two selected languages, and try to switch them with the dock (keys combinations, spacebar...), or at last just try to type something Armenian with the dock?
Thanks!
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I am happy to try for you. I can download and install Armenian. You can switch using shift and spacebar in search, chrome, kingsoft office, gmail and some others. I tried to get a screenshot, but I can't seem to upload it to XDA (browser issue I think). The only problem I had was with the stock browser. I couldn't get it to switch, or type Armenian characters. It may just need a restart. It does type the charactes and switch using the search bar in the stock browser, but on google page or XDA reply box it wouldn't.
Hope that helps.
Gudders
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