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Get a transformer now or wait for prime?

I'm finally ready to get a tablet and I've decided the Asus is the way to go. Should I just buy one now or wait for the prime? Is the difference all that significant?
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I'd say it really depends on what you're willing to spend. If you decided you wanted it two days ago, you could have gotten one from best buy for 249. I would wait if I had the extra cash, the tech gets so old fast so it's the only way you can stay on top of it.

It depends. I got my transformer off someone locally for 200$ a month ago. After one month of using it I still feel that I could never spend 500$ on a few tablet. Dont get me wrong this thing is amazing but I still prefer my 200$ net book. I just bought it as an expensive to mess around with and to play around with android on a tablet.
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I just got one a few days ago for my kids. I think you should get one if you don't care about having the latest specs. It is a fine tablet that you and your family can enjoy for a while until prime 2 comes out

If you can afford a Prime, wait for one. I own TF1, but 2nd makes it look ancient. I would wait.

I think the Prime has enough features to wait a month or two for, but for someone who already has the TF101, I am riding out this device for a while and see what comes out in several more months to come.

jkeben said:
I think the Prime has enough features to wait a month or two for, but for someone who already has the TF101, I am riding out this device for a while and see what comes out in several more months to come.
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see, wanting to get it at the 250 price is what got me into this mess haha. I saw it was going to be on sale and I figured I'd pick one up if it was a good buy. So I did my research and decided I wanted one reallllly bad. Of course all the best buys in my area were out of them before I could get one. Now I'm just considering buying it at the regular price, though I feel a not like the rest of you and can't justify spending so much on a tablet haha idk
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adamtheindien said:
see, wanting to get it at the 250 price is what got me into this mess haha. I saw it was going to be on sale and I figured I'd pick one up if it was a good buy. So I did my research and decided I wanted one reallllly bad. Of course all the best buys in my area were out of them before I could get one. Now I'm just considering buying it at the regular price, though I feel a not like the rest of you and can't justify spending so much on a tablet haha idk
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FYI - you can still get the Transformer for $299 @ GameStop!
Foe the price difference, I would get the original Transformer. It is still a very fast tablet and you really can't beat the price ($400 for tablet and dock compared to $499 for the TF Prime tablet alone - not sure what the dock costs for the Prime).
Besides, we still don't know what kind of issues we'll run into with the Prime yet - just like the original keyboard dock had a hardware issue that needed an RMA to fix...

[Q] Thinking of buying one of these

I love Android, and especially the community that every device has.
I currently have an Epic 4G Touch (Sprint's GSII) and I have never owned a tablet.
This Thanksgiving break I visited my cousins and lo behold, practically all of them had an iPad 2. It was a very convenient thing to have around, I never really saw a tablet as a useful item. But I see that tablets are really neat now, it's like a phone, but bigger and not as heavy and clunky as a laptop.
And with today's web based world, it's really convenient to have a tablet on your coffee table to just use when chatting with friends, family gatherings or just watching tv and you need to look up something on the web. Or a device to watch Netflix or Hulu on, but your phone's screen is just too small and it's weird to hold it. Blah blah, useful features could go on.
Anyways, I missed the BestBuy sale for $250 unfortunately, and Gamestop is sold out for $300. But on Craiglist, a lot of folks are selling them for $330 unopened because they are bastards and bought them during black friday to make a profit.
I know the Transformer Prime is coming out on 12/8 for $500 but I simply can't afford that. Do you guys think that the regular Transformer will drop down in Price after the Prime comes out?
So I am left with multiple dilemmas:
1. Buy brand new for $330 off craiglist
2. Wait for possible price drop
3. 3D monitor + nVidia 3D vision kit
4. Solid State Drive
When I look into Android products I look into the modding community for the device on XDA, and it looks like the Eee pad has the best one.
So, should I get one or no?
If you could provide me with a link to buy one for under $300, I will buy it without hesitation.
Thank you

I can't give you a link, but I will tell you that you will certainly love your Eee Pad. Keep looking. This week has a lot of good internet deals. You're bound to find something. Otherwise offer someone on craigslist around $315 and see if they bite. Even at $330, its still a great value.
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As an owner of a transformer I can personally say that it's a great device. It does everything for me (including the stuff you listed) and i'm not sure how much a performance boost the quad core will actually bring (to me i think the tegra 3 is an overkill in processor power).
I recall asus saying that when the transformer prime is released, the old transformer price will drop to 250 and 350 for the 16 and 32gb models (respectively). Don't quote me on this though.
However, if your interested in the dev/modding of the transformer you may be disappointed. I believe all the models you'll find in the stores today will have a locked kernel which means you can't root the device (until the xda dev's figure a way out)

will3330 said:
However, if your interested in the dev/modding of the transformer you may be disappointed. I believe all the models you'll find in the stores today will have a locked kernel which means you can't root the device (until the xda dev's figure a way out)
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What really? No way...
If I can't root it that's a deal breaker right there
edit: well im doing some current browsing on the forum and no where does it mention that some models can't be rooted.
In fact there's a one click root for all models in the dev section

New models can be rooted now. There is a link in the dev section somewhere. If you can wait untill the Prime comes out I will have 2 32gb for sale. Already rooted, with or without docks. In fact when the Prime comes out like the other poster said I bet you can get a good deal. I was planning on selling mine for 300 without dock when the time comes.
Edit: Post for rooting all versions is in dev section look for "razorclaw"
3VO Sent

If you are still interested I am selling mine with keyboard and boxes for both already rooted (running Revolver) for $400 + shipping. Not a scratch on the tablet or keyboard. Just bought the keyboard a couple of weeks ago to replace a defective one.
PM if interested.
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ifly4vamerica said:
New models can be rooted now. There is a link in the dev section somewhere. If you can wait untill the Prime comes out I will have 2 32gb for sale. Already rooted, with or without docks. In fact when the Prime comes out like the other poster said I bet you can get a good deal. I was planning on selling mine for 300 without dock when the time comes.
Edit: Post for rooting all versions is in dev section look for "razorclaw"
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Ooo!
Well since you got two, and the Prime comes out in a week or so, why not C.O.D. one of those babies to my location ?
$300 is a deal.

I can personally tell you the new ones can be rooted VERY EASILY using razorclaw with one click. It took less than a second... I have a B90 and I bought it this week. Rooted, custom rom, cwm, and overclocked.
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If you buy a transformer retail you can always get a price adjustment if it does drop. Bestbuy extended their return policy for 60 days during christmas. Just an idea.
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Save your money and go to Best Buy and price match it with Game Stop for $299. I just bought the wife one for Christmas.

There will be a lot of these for sale as people trade up to the Prime, however I would be very cautious of the Craig's list ones advertised as new in box. They are more likely to be used with the box. The same thing happened when the current transformer replaced the Viewsonic Gtab. Once the prime comes out, you should be able to get a good used TF for $250 or so with some acc.

DonutGrunt said:
Ooo!
Well since you got two, and the Prime comes out in a week or so, why not C.O.D. one of those babies to my location ?
$300 is a deal.
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Ha! I would take you up on that but the second one is technically the other halfs. It does however have a sweet purple and pink flower theme on it.

techsmith said:
Save your money and go to Best Buy and price match it with Game Stop for $299. I just bought the wife one for Christmas.
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How do i go about price matching when gamestop is sold out online?
Would they just be like even if you wanted the gamestop one, you couldnt cause its sold out.

DonutGrunt said:
How do i go about price matching when gamestop is sold out online?
Would they just be like even if you wanted the gamestop one, you couldnt cause its sold out.
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No, as long as it's a current advertised price they should match it, in stock or not.
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I just called the best buy in my town and they said it had to be in stock in the store in our town too. So no deal on that. Luckily I snagged one last night from bhphotovideo for 344. Hopefully they don't get too cheap any time soon. They are selling out almost everywhere though.
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You should be able to find one for $300. I bought one (excellent condition, barely used) last week with dock for $350 and there seem to be a few at around 320 without dock. Wait a week or so, people who have it at 320+ will not end up selling them anyway and when the prime comes out they'll go in the 250-300 range pretty quickly.

Best buy models are tf101-x1 and everywhere else they are the original tf101-a1. Best buy did this to prevent price matching the device because Walmart and others sold the a1 model, good luck on price matching
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Just to revisit the original question for a moment, the SSD purchase might be a compelling alternative. It depends how you use the PC you would be putting it in, but they can pretty dramatically speed up a lot of tasks. Disk I/O is quite often the bottle neck in modern systems, and going from a spinning platter and arm to no moving parts could have a dramatic effect. Again though it all depends on how powerful your system is (if it can take full advantage of the IO speed gains), and what types of tasks you use it for.
Of course the flip side of that is: you may end up using your PC a LOT less if you pick up a Transformer, Prime or original. I know I do. Between my blackberry (email, instant messaging) and transformer (web surfing, google reader for rss feeds, and occasional angry birds or similar simple gaming), I barely have to use my laptop any more.

I got mine during black friday at best buy too. I was hestitant at first and wasn't sure about the rooting because of it being a newer and different model but this tablet is amazing. I love the internet, FLASH!, the apps, and the widgets. I hooked up to my tv the other day to show my roomates and they were blown away. I already rooted mine too just need to overclock it. This is is my first tablet and android device. The camera isn't that great but I did not get it for the camera. I recommend the best buy way. Buy it now and when the prime comes out you can return it to best buy and get the prime.
If I play with the prime and it seems worth it I will probably do that. However, if you want a first generation one there will probably be lots of people selling them on here. Totally worth the black friday mess and being short for rent. Also, if you use your phone as a hot spot with it it's even more amazing. There are plenty of apps to enjoy even without wi-fi and spotify or rdio for music.
I atually do use my laptop less now. Only thing I dont like is the laggyness of the keyboard strokes on this site. I am hoping overclocking will solve it. Dolphin and stock are both fast but I like dolphin the best so far. I'm falling in love with the touch gestures. Made one just for XDA

There are a couple of ways to get it for $299. Call around to the local game stops and see if they have the transformer in stock. When you called best buy you gave too much information.

CPO Charge?

So i'm trying to decide on a new phone. i have an upgrade available on my main line. I don't want to shell out $200-300 for a new phone, but Verizon has CPO (basically refurbished) Droid Charges listed at $50. My current Eros is a refurb and is better than the original i originally received. Anyone else tried a CPO Charge and if so what was your experience?
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At this point I would wait for the Nexus.
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I think a lot of people here got CLNR (certified like new replacements, refurbs basically) Charges in the Fascinate swap fiasco... speaking for myself yes it has worked flawlessly aside from the data dropping occasionally (and annoyingly) which has been pretty much fixed with EP3H build and higher radios, it always flashes correctly, never borked it doing anything, and the screen looks as great as when I first got it
so yeah if you're looking for a nice 4G phone (that I would say needed heavy tweaking to work right on Froyo, but the new GB OTA seems to be pretty solid) and don't wanna wait for the Nexus or shell out for a newer model if you can get a Charge for $50 its a steal
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I love my Charge. It seems pretty unpopular with the phone community, but I don't quite see why. The screen alone makes it worth having. Little features like the HDMI out and from facing camera make it a great phone.
I will admit, stock Froyo was TERRIBLE! Don't get a Charge unless you are going to install a custom ROM with lagfix. But when overclocked the Charge is a beast!

Since you're looking for VALUE, I'd say $50 for a Charge would be an awesome deal. Just know getting into it, that we don't have a huge dev community. Also, a lot of our current devs are leaving (imoseyon changed jobs and is losing his Charge and imnuts has only pledged support for the Charge for the next few months, since he is getting a Nexus).

Check Amazonwireless.com where Charges are free for new lines, maybe even existing lines as well.
I seriously don't know why people would buy anywhere else. The new Nexus will probably be cheaper there as well. Eventually you will be able to get a free Galaxy Nexus there.
When Charges were 300 bucks each, I got mine for $150 each (they were $200 on Amazonwireless, but then they dropped them to $150 a week later, I called and they honored their new price for me.)

xdadevnube said:
Check Amazonwireless.com where Charges are free for new lines, maybe even existing lines as well.
I seriously don't know why people would buy anywhere else. The new Nexus will probably be cheaper there as well. Eventually you will be able to get a free Galaxy Nexus there.
When Charges were 300 bucks each, I got mine for $150 each (they were $200 on Amazonwireless, but then they dropped them to $150 a week later, I called and they honored their new price for me.)
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People don't buy elsewhere for many reasons, one of them is the fine print. Should you cancel your plan, you have a double ETF. Also, some VZW corporate stores will not help you if there is an issue and you didn't buy the device from them. The biggest reason I wouldn't buy it from Amazon or many other 3rd parties is the added ETF, and the odds of them screwing up my account are much higher, like changing my insurance or data plan.

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People don't buy elsewhere for many reasons, one of them is the fine print. Should you cancel your plan, you have a double ETF. Also, some VZW corporate stores will not help you if there is an issue and you didn't buy the device from them. The biggest reason I wouldn't buy it from Amazon or many other 3rd parties is the added ETF, and the odds of them screwing up my account are much higher, like changing my insurance or data plan.
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Etf?
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kvswim said:
Etf?
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Early termination fee

thanks for all feedback. Sounds like refurb Charge will be a good option for me. Hopefully we see some icS options

racerx2oo3 said:
thanks for all feedback. Sounds like refurb Charge will be a good option for me. Hopefully we see some icS options
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Keep dreaming. They just rolled out GB update the other day. IF the Charge sees an official ICS release, it is still months away, and I would guess after the Nexus comes, so there is no point whatsoever.

Yeah, i'm not really expecting OFFICIAL support, but hopefully some of the devs will pick up the torch.
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regardless of the size of the dev community its still a nice phone... battery life is decent, screen is awesome, its not too heavy or thick, camera is pretty darn good plus I foresee a lot of people picking up Charges and other older-gen 4G phones when the Nexus drops (hopefully some devs/themers) and eBay/craigslist gets flooded... that said we have a good group of dedicated, albeit small in number, devs and themers that even now still put up with us and update constantly lol
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anoninja118 said:
I think a lot of people here got CLNR (certified like new replacements, refurbs basically) Charges in the Fascinate swap
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Fun little secret: Most of the CLNR Charges sent out in the Fascinate swap were new retail packages with a CLNR sticker pasted over the original.

got mine as a CPO back in late August/Early September.
also got my wife the iPhone. my Charge has been great thus far - especially with the help of these fine folks here on XDA and Chargeforums.com, I've been able to get the most out of it - so it really won't matter if you get a CPO. the warranty is still the same....

AlexDeGruven said:
Fun little secret: Most of the CLNR Charges sent out in the Fascinate swap were new retail packages with a CLNR sticker pasted over the original.
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YUP, this is what i got
And as soon as I booted, it installed GSB. For $50, i couldn't pass it up.

Should I buy?

I got a great deal for this tablet but the man said his company refurbished it themselves. Should I buy it? What problems are you guys having? Common issues? I really like it and he said they'll give me a 7 day warranty.

Jess813 said:
I got a great deal for this tablet but the man said his company refurbished it themselves. Should I buy it? What problems are you guys having? Common issues? I really like it and he said they'll give me a 7 day warranty.
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A seven day warranty isn't very long...does that mean you can return it for your full money back if you don't want to keep it for any reason? Is it a US Xoom model? The Xoom is terrific, even more so with the Ice Cream Sandwich update, but just be careful, because any deal that sounds too good to be true, usually is.

Jess813 said:
I got a great deal for this tablet but the man said his company refurbished it themselves. Should I buy it? What problems are you guys having? Common issues? I really like it and he said they'll give me a 7 day warranty.
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I got mine from Newegg.com. Super fast shipping. I've purchased a bunch of tech stuff from them and have always been happy. I paid $329 free shipping for mine. It is a wifi that was refurbished by Motorola. Mine arrived in brand new condition. I have a year warranty on it.
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Jess813 said:
I got a great deal for this tablet but the man said his company refurbished it themselves. Should I buy it? What problems are you guys having? Common issues? I really like it and he said they'll give me a 7 day warranty.
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A seven day warranty is a joke, and I'm guessing anyone who offers a seven day warranty is a joke as well. I would be very cautious about that deal. Remember that if something sounds too good to be true, it usually is. You are better off buying something off Ebay from an totally unknown seller, at least Ebay has buyer protection to cover you if the item does work as described.

Thanks guys I backed off it was just too good, yeah 7 days is too short. Thanks again I will continue my search, and will try Newegg.

One quick question guys .. what's the difference between the original Xoom and the family edition one?

Jess813 said:
One quick question guys .. what's the difference between the original Xoom and the family edition one?
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The original Xoom can be rooted, modded, upgraded to ICS right now.
The Family Edition has a nicer screen, iirc, but it's not unlockable/rootable, and they have to wait for Motorola to upgrade them to ICS.
I would absolutely go with the original Xoom. It's still the best tablet around, even though it's about a year old.

okantomi said:
The original Xoom can be rooted, modded, upgraded to ICS right now.
The Family Edition has a nicer screen, iirc, but it's not unlockable/rootable, and they have to wait for Motorola to upgrade them to ICS.
I would absolutely go with the original Xoom. It's still the best tablet around, even though it's about a year old.
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couldn't agree more. The original xoom has fantastic support on these forums and the developers have barely scratched the surface of what they can do. Plus, if memory serves, the family edition cant have extra memory added to it unlike the original xoom. That factor alone closes the deal in my eyes.

[Q] Worth buying refurb?

Hello!
New to the forums. Im looking for a tablet currently and saw the 10.1 online for $320 refursbished through best buy. (although wal mart had it for $250 earlier today) Was just wondering if its worth the purchase. I know the new one will be out shortly, just looking at opinions from others. Thank you!

cjr9831 said:
Hello!
New to the forums. Im looking for a tablet currently and saw the 10.1 online for $320 refursbished through best buy. (although wal mart had it for $250 earlier today) Was just wondering if its worth the purchase. I know the new one will be out shortly, just looking at opinions from others. Thank you!
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Walmart is sold out in both colors of the refurb units.
The release coming up in Sept is for the note 3 phone or are they releasing a new note 10.1 tablet also?
I really like my Note 10.1 and they would have to come out with something mind blowing for me to upgrade when a new note 10.1 comes out.

kkretch said:
Walmart is sold out in both colors of the refurb units.
The release coming up in Sept is for the note 3 phone or are they releasing a new note 10.1 tablet also?
I really like my Note 10.1 and they would have to come out with something mind blowing for me to upgrade when a new note 10.1 comes out.
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Yea i saw the walmart deal on gizmodo earlier. Best buy has it for $330 refurb. Mine consider that option as well seems to be a great tablet. Thanks for your response!

I bought mine refurbished on Woot.com for $299 and honestly it's just as good as brand new... I have been scared of refurbs before but now I think it's one of the best ways to go. even bought my wife a refurbished note 8.0 on ebay for $289 and hers is just like a brand new unit as well, plus depending on where you get it, most refurbs have a 90 day warranty (but if it turns out to be like my purchases, you won't need it)
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Ordered mine the other day from Wal-Mart and got a 2 year drop, spills, whatever warranty from them for 36.00. I feel I'm covered. Looking forward to using it soon.
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The only reason I'm here is because of the $249 walmart refurb deal 2 days ago. That being said it depends on where you get the refurb from. Walmart has a very good return policy and I can take it back to any physical store without restocking fees. And there were over 500 online reviews with the majority indicating that the tablet came in brand new like condition minus the original box. That was enough for me to pull the trigger.

if it's not too late i would wait unless you want a cheap tablet to hold you over, samsung are supposedly going to announce a 1080p note series 12" tablet soon so look out for it, i'm interested myself but i am still happy with the note 10.1 though.

oledog52 said:
Ordered mine the other day from Wal-Mart and got a 2 year drop, spills, whatever warranty from them for 36.00. I feel I'm covered. Looking forward to using it soon.
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wish i would of saw that walmart deal sooner. they have it now for $299 which still isnt bad..

I have a question for those of you purchasing Walmart refurbs: what build number shipped on your device? My daughter and a friend's daughter both purchased Walmart refurbs and arrived with UEUCMA3 and would not update through the system. It just says the latest updates have been installed- which is obviously not true. I updated my daughter's (via ODIN), but I am curious about the experience of others.
Thanks,
Methaq
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methaq said:
I have a question for those of you purchasing Walmart refurbs: what build number shipped on your device? My daughter and a friend's daughter both purchased Walmart refurbs and arrived with UEUCMA3 and would not update through the system. It just says the latest updates have been installed- which is obviously not true. I updated my daughter's (via ODIN), but I am curious about the experience of others.
Thanks,
Methaq
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The best way to get the update when auto update does not work is With your computer using samsung Kies software.But ODIN Flash is fine too..
Just letting you know there is another option..
I to agree with some of the comments above. I do not think i will upgrade to the next gen note 10 tablet.my note 10.1 runs perfect and does all i want.Also its likely to be 500.00 to 600.00 . That is a alot of money. I hope my note 10.1 will be viable for another year or so.. I also would NOT WANT A tablet bigger then 10. inches . 10 inches to me is a Monster .. Giggles.
Anyway Buy buy buy...... its half price and refurbs are useally returns or non sold new devices reboxed to sell with less warranty to clear out stock..

@erica_renee, I did try kies before ODIN, same result.
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Picked up a woot.com refurb for $299. It's been flawless so far.

cjr9831 said:
Hello!
New to the forums. Im looking for a tablet currently and saw the 10.1 online for $320 refursbished through best buy. (although wal mart had it for $250 earlier today) Was just wondering if its worth the purchase. I know the new one will be out shortly, just looking at opinions from others. Thank you!
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Yes, I picked mine up from Walmart and am very happy with it. Brand new looking, only difference is the refurb packaging.
It handles everything I throw at it and don't think I will need anything new anytime this year at least.
I paid 279 which was an excellent deal in itself. 249 is insane. You could probably resell if on ebay for a profit which may be why they are now sold out.
Buy one of you get the chance!
ps . I even got the drop and spill insurance since it was so inexpensive.

I bought a refurbished one from Walmart. I went with them over Best Buy because Walmart offered a two year warranty for like $40.
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I picked up one of these from Amazon refurbished for $299, great so far, although Ido have a dead pixel near the bottom right, but you can hardly tell. Otherwise you wouldnt have a clue this wasnt new. Great deal and I'm so happy to be rid of my Asus TF300, that thing was such a waste of money, slow as dirt, this thing just zips a long and I got a nice bluetooth keyboard case/stand for it as well. No complaints here
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Lost out
I would say yes to the OP question.
I myself was going to purchase a second Note 10.1 and when I went to get one of the $259 refurbs at Walmart they were sold out, I lost out on a great deal.
I see the reburb units have hit Ebay now and the cheapest I see is $299, still a good deal, the seller sold over 380 white units and 130 gray and the white is about sold out.
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Walmart should still have more. I got mine plus two years of warranty for $299 and some cents. I was actually considering getting the TF300 don't know why I chose the Note, but it was a sound investment.

theprogram1 said:
Walmart should still have more. I got mine plus two years of warranty for $299 and some cents. I was actually considering getting the TF300 don't know why I chose the Note, but it was a sound investment.
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This. The fear of refurbs is a weird failure the QA folks missed. $299 and a 2year warranty is a good deal. Just make sure you know how to take advantage of their warranty (receipts, boxes, etc) before you need to. Taking pictures/scans of the receipts is a very good idea if you don't need the originals. Thermograph paper doesn't last too long.

They emailed the warranty information.

Had $37 in eBay Bucks and picked this up:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Fac...1-Inch-Wi-Fi-16GB-White-GT-N8013/271152026387
Not bad for $242.