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To those who flash roms all the time, I've noticed that sometimes when I do a full Titanium restore after a fresh ROM flash, sometimes Titanium Backup will restore Launcher Pro where it doesn't go "Error loading Widget" for every widget. Instead sometimes I get a full proper restore.
This is clearly an issue for those of us that customize so much that we have overlapping stretching widgets that we need to play widget tetris.
How can I get Titanium backup to do this? I haven't investigated enough but it's clearly a set of events that I've done to get it to work SOMETIMES....
So far I've noticed that this has happened with Nandroid backups for "ROMs" on the Milestone. Those Nandroid backups are essentially bare bone OS installations with customized stuff (since we have a locked bootloader still, so updates are harder). I usually do a Ti backup full restore and sometimes the widgets of my Launcher Pro restore perfectly.
It is android not letting you restore widgets. It just doesn't work. not TiBu or LP or any other home screen replacement.
Get Gingerbread and maybe that will fix your problem.
darkamikaze said:
It is android not letting you restore widgets. It just doesn't work. not TiBu or LP or any other home screen replacement.
Get Gingerbread and maybe that will fix your problem.
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The problem is it does it once in a while. I know it's not supposed to work becase only the official Launcher Pro widgets will be restored. You are supposed to have to add back your own widgets, but once in a while a titanium backup restore upon flashing a new rom gives me my original homescreen where I don't have to manually re-add any widgets.
I think you're on something because it doesn't.. only reason LP widgets work is because you're using it's own widgets and the launcher can load it because it's its own propriety. I think the only way you can have widgets restored to state is through a nandroid restore.. and even that i'm not too sure.
It's a security thing, Android doesn't let any program, aside from the official Widget Picker, add a new Widget. So when you restore, the Launcher tries to add the Widget, Android checks to see if that program is authorized for that widget. If it is, it adds it. If not you get the error or empty space.
If you restore the data without uninstalling Launcher Pro or resetting your phone, I imagine Android still has the widget authorized so no permission error occurs.
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I think you're on something because it doesn't.. only reason LP widgets work is because you're using it's own widgets and the launcher can load it because it's its own propriety. I think the only way you can have widgets restored to state is through a nandroid restore.. and even that i'm not too sure.
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It has done it.
You are right that a Nandroid restore will restore everything because a Nandroid is essentially like an HD image. But I can assure you what I'm talking about was a Titanium Backup incident. My problem is that I've seen it a few times, but I haven't investigated it enough to reproduce it or to see how to get it. Perhaps someone here has also seen it before, but shrugged it off.
I'm a Milestone User and when we still had Eclair mods like this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=765346
The modder replaced the default launcher.apk with LauncherPro. So what happens is he uses Nandroid to make a Nandroid image of his "ROM." Yes. Locked bootloader FTL. So we use Nandroid images. Essentially it's still a bare bones version of a ROM.
Well, I have all my apps backed up on Titanium Backup before I install this because its like a full wipe. I then restore all my apps.
Now I've only used like 8 versions of his ROM compared to like 2-3 of other ROMs, so perhaps its the fact that when installing his ROM, he already HAS LauncherPro as the default system launcher. Thus when I'm restoring my Titanium Backup, when it reads my Launcher Pro settings and puts it in the system app, it has no problem accessing widgets.
I do remember it failing once in a while too, but there have been AT LEAST 3-4 times where I did NOT have to restore any of my own widgets.
Once again I highly suspect this has something to do with having LauncherPro integrated in the Nandroid backup, even if it doesn't have any of my widgets.
I'm asking this because I'm using CM6 now and it uses the update.zip method and obviously I can't trigger the LauncherPro thing anymore. I don't know how it worked before, as it seems to be a bug. I completely understand that Launcher Pro is not supposed to allow restoring of non LP widgets. How it's done it before, I do not know.
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To those who flash roms all the time, I've noticed that sometimes when I do a full Titanium restore after a fresh ROM flash, sometimes Titanium Backup will restore Launcher Pro where it doesn't go "Error loading Widget" for every widget. Instead sometimes I get a full proper restore.
This is clearly an issue for those of us that customize so much that we have overlapping stretching widgets that we need to play widget tetris.
How can I get Titanium backup to do this? I haven't investigated enough but it's clearly a set of events that I've done to get it to work SOMETIMES....
So far I've noticed that this has happened with Nandroid backups for "ROMs" on the Milestone. Those Nandroid backups are essentially bare bone OS installations with customized stuff (since we have a locked bootloader still, so updates are harder). I usually do a Ti backup full restore and sometimes the widgets of my Launcher Pro restore perfectly.
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This too has happened with me as well and not only with TB but also Mybackup root as well, TB has option like applications widgets and MBR says android home, I flash alot and I say 10% of my restores this happens with (working) I tried every ordering i can think of to reproduce it but never can seems completely random. I wish someone could figure this out because it does work just not sure how to always reproduce it.
He is not on anything... This has happened to me also.
Like he said every once and a while after installing a new rom and doing a titanium restore everything goes back to normal widgets and all.
This would be very helpful for me because I don't use icons at all. I strictly use custom Icon and desktop visualizer. So this would be huge to figure out the work around to make it work every time
Stupid question..
Have you tried restoring everything BUT LP with Titanium, let it finish, then restore LP with Titanium?
i reinstall new rom > wait 15 > reboot.
restore backups via titanium > reboot.
at this stage, my widgets don't display. i'll usually open market to login, open talk, maps. whatever else requires logins or permissions and reboot.
most of the time, after this last reboot my widgets appear, but this time they didn't. after restoring tons of stuff again and rebooting, no change.
this time i opened google finance (which i have a widget for and requires login). i allowed it's permissions and rebooted. my widgets appeared.
in this one case, i believe i had to open each application i have a widget for to make sure they were all logged in, then reboot.
i hate having to restore my widgets each time. i'd love to figure out the secret to restoring them consistently.
I can get Titanium to restore all my widgets every time. I use TB to backup "Application Widgets" before flashing a new ROM.
Obviously once I restore all my apps with Titanium Backup my Widgets all show up with the error. But if I restore "Application Widgets" again and immediately restart my phone using a quick reboot app (I use Hot Reboot) the widgets all load fine.
I'll usually do a full restore of all my apps. Put a Hot Reboot widget on my homescreen. Restore "Application Widgets" again. Reboot using Hot Reboot. Then when the phone is done booting all my Widgets appear correctly (minus the Hot Reboot widget I just added, it errors out).
Don't know if it'll work for everyone but it works every time for me. Saves a lot me time.
EDIT: Works perfect!
dustinb17 said:
I can get Titanium to restore all my widgets every time. I use TB to backup "Application Widgets" before flashing a new ROM.
Obviously once I restore all my apps with Titanium Backup my Widgets all show up with the error. But if I restore "Application Widgets" again and immediately restart my phone using a quick reboot app (I use Hot Reboot) the widgets all load fine.
I'll usually do a full restore of all my apps. Put a Hot Reboot widget on my homescreen. Restore "Application Widgets" again. Reboot using Hot Reboot. Then when the phone is done booting all my Widgets appear correctly (minus the Hot Reboot widget I just added, it errors out).
Don't know if it'll work for everyone but it works every time for me. Saves a lot me time.
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I don't find anything in Titanium Backup to select backup "Application Widgets"? How this is done? Thanx
IS this LauncherPro specific or does it work with other launchers
rickg99 said:
I don't find anything in Titanium Backup to select backup "Application Widgets"? How this is done? Thanx
IS this LauncherPro specific or does it work with other launchers
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I don't believe it has anything to do with Launcher Pro actually. It's listed in green for me indicating that it's a "System service with useful data". I have the paid version of TB and I have no idea if that has anything to do with it.
It's available for me in batch mode and through backup/restore. It's exact name is "Application Widgets" the icon is the Titanium Backup Circle and it's listed in green with all the other Apps that start with A.
I see Application Widgets on the free version also, I haven't tried it before though...next time I switch ROM's I'll give it a shot!
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I don't believe it has anything to do with Launcher Pro actually. It's listed in green for me indicating that it's a "System service with useful data". I have the paid version of TB and I have no idea if that has anything to do with it.
It's available for me in batch mode and through backup/restore. It's exact name is "Application Widgets" the icon is the Titanium Backup Circle and it's listed in green with all the other Apps that start with A.
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Don't understand that. I have latest Titanium but I don't have anything found to backup/restore "Application Widgets" or "System service with useful data". Whre do I find that. I have default launcher as well as Launcher Pro but don't find it with both launcher. Thank you.
rickg99 said:
Don't understand that. I have latest Titanium but I don't have anything found to backup/restore "Application Widgets" or "System service with useful data". Whre do I find that. I have default launcher as well as Launcher Pro but don't find it with both launcher. Thank you.
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The "System Service with useful data" is in the legend if you hit menu. It describes what the programs written in green indicate. Maybe try a Batch backup of all system data, and look for it in there. If you do a Batch "Backup of all system data" do you have anything in that list listed with green writing?
Edit: I guess it may depend on your root status as well. I know I'm rooted with S-Off, maybe that has something to do with it if you're not.
thank you.this trick is working perfect. i tried it with a cm7 rom in hd2
got it
Going to try this now - flashing another ROM just to see.
dustinb17 said:
I can get Titanium to restore all my widgets every time. I use TB to backup "Application Widgets" before flashing a new ROM.
Obviously once I restore all my apps with Titanium Backup my Widgets all show up with the error. But if I restore "Application Widgets" again and immediately restart my phone using a quick reboot app (I use Hot Reboot) the widgets all load fine.
I'll usually do a full restore of all my apps. Put a Hot Reboot widget on my homescreen. Restore "Application Widgets" again. Reboot using Hot Reboot. Then when the phone is done booting all my Widgets appear correctly (minus the Hot Reboot widget I just added, it errors out).
Don't know if it'll work for everyone but it works every time for me. Saves a lot me time.
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Sorry for digging up an old thread but I just had to say thank you for this. Really saved me a buttload of time! THANKS!
Is there a way to save different home screen designs. Meaning if I take all day to design a homepage the way I like it then a week later I want to change to something else. Is there a way to go back and forth between the two or three different home screens etc without re configuring everything? I may use simi clock for one and minimalist text for another etc..
Also, does it hurt to have a app installed that you may not use often? Meaning if I am using minimalist text and then switch to using simi clock a month later. Does having these apps install use up any sources if they are not applied?
Thanks
Forgot to mention that I am not rooted.
Sounds like the HTC scenes feature i've seen on the personalized page. Not sure if we can make our own scenes but this seems to be the way to go.
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When you modify one of the scenes it will be saved the way you left it. I know that you can name and save scenes with some versions of sense but I don't believe that is the case with the stock inspire.
Well let me also mention I am using Launcher Pro, sorry.
The only way I can think of doing this with lp would be with multiple backups using titanium backup. This would not be ideal as widgets don't restore though. You can use multiple different launchers, such as lp and adw, switching between them, leaving your entire setup intact on each.
Launcher pro let's you backup your home screens I believe.
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Also, does it hurt to have a app installed that you may not use often? Meaning if I am using minimalist text and then switch to using simi clock a month later. Does having these apps install use up any sources if they are not applied?
Thanks
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Sometimes they use resources when they are not applied. You can check in running services (Settings > Applications > Running services)
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Launcher pro let's you backup your home screens I believe.
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Yes you can back up the home screen but only one at a time. When you select restore from backup, it does not give you a selection. It appears it backups over the previous backup file every time you do a backup.
Oh well I guess it can not be done.
Launcher pro looks for the file name on your SD card that it put there.
You could do some renaming to do what you want. Back up your first home-screen set up, then find the 'launcher pro backup'(or what ever launcher pro names it) on your SD card. Rename it to whatever- say- lpbackup1. Set up your second homescreen, rename to lpbackup2. Rinse and repeat for each screen set up. When you want to restore one, rename the specific backup you want to exactly what launcher pro names it in the first place, and restore it. Kind of a pain, but it should let you do what you to do.
Hi guys, first-time poster here. This seems like a great community. I have a Droid 2, and recently installed Fission ROM on it. Love everything about it, except I can no longer access the built in motorola widgets, such as Text message, and toggle buttons for blue tooth, wifi, gps and airplane mode. Any way to get these back?
Edit: Appears I am also missing backup assistant, not fun having only 9 of my contacts available. I used Bootstrapper before installing the rom.
I think I put this in the wrong forum...sorry about that, feel free to mod me.
If I Remember Correctly, (I Am On A Thunderbolt) Fission Is A "Stock" Rom Meaning Moto Blur Is Gone, Meaning Motorola Widgets Are Gone
I think he's right, fission is AOSP-like so you're not gonna have the moto widgets. As for your contacts, I would be syncing them with your Gmail account that way whenever you switch roms/phones and sign in to your phone with your Google account, bam, you have all your contacts and apps. Also just fyi, I believe fission is no longer supported so I'd recommend trying a rom that is, i.e. liberty or apex.
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Hey Guys,
read some threads about backup, but i couldn't find one, that answers my questions...
I'm using ARHD on my Sensation an Mike recommends SuperWiping on every new Base.
It's a bit annoying that I have to set up Wifi-Networks, Backgroundimages, Ring Tones and Homescreen Settings etc. after every SuperWipe.
Is it possible to backup those things without getting problems with new ROM ? I use Titanium for backing up my Games and other Apps.
Greetz!
If you enable Google Backup and Restore it'll automatically restore your Wi-Fi networks and background.
Only the homescreen icon layout will can be restored. Widgets won't be restored.
You can also use Titanium Backup. But be careful what system info you back up. restoring some things can cause issues.
Well, what do if have to restore in TB to get all my settings and personalizations back ?
I always backup everything and when I get new ROM, I restore apps and things, which are marked green in the batch restore screen. If it doesn't work, try some white-color-marked things. But things marked with red color shouldn't be restored, unless you know, what you're doing. I prefer setting it again, it's much safer.
Don't restore white things, if you are coming from GB to ICS or sense 3.0 to 3.5 etc.
Thanks for your answer. I found "Wifi AP" "Desktop" etc. in Titanium itself now, so i don't need another App !
Hello. I have a HTC Sensation 4G on T-Mobile rooted with OrDroid on it. OrDroid releases New updates VERY frequently. I have my homescreen customized to my liking.... (widgets, shortcuts, folders, etc.) And I was wondering if I could somehow save my homescreen layout so I don't have to spend a lot of time changing it after I do a clean install of an update. It is really frustrating customizing my home screens several times per week. Is there some file on the phone that contains the positioning of the items on the homescreen that I could back up?
Thanks, and pardon my noob-i-ness... This is my first post.
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Hello. I have a HTC Sensation 4G on T-Mobile rooted with OrDroid on it. OrDroid releases New updates VERY frequently. I have my homescreen customized to my liking.... (widgets, shortcuts, folders, etc.) And I was wondering if I could somehow save my homescreen layout so I don't have to spend a lot of time changing it after I do a clean install of an update. It is really frustrating customizing my home screens several times per week. Is there some file on the phone that contains the positioning of the items on the homescreen that I could back up?
Thanks, and pardon my noob-i-ness... This is my first post.
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well, what i do is, making a full backup in recovery, full wipe, flash the new ordroid, after that, make an advanced restore, and only restore data from the backup i previously made. that restores my ROM just the way it was before flashing, all apps, home screen layout, launcher, settings, messages, and contacts. everything. although, make sure you fix permissions in recovery after that as well.
or, you can use titanium backup, backup all system/app + data, then restore all after flashing.
those two should work just fine.
Simplest way is to use Titanium backup. "HTC Sense [Desktop]" saves your sense desktop configuration/layout.
Rumball said:
Simplest way is to use Titanium backup. "HTC Sense [Desktop]" saves your sense desktop configuration/layout.
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arabology said:
well, what i do is, making a full backup in recovery, full wipe, flash the new ordroid, after that, make an advanced restore, and only restore data from the backup i previously made. that restores my ROM just the way it was before flashing, all apps, home screen layout, launcher, settings, messages, and contacts. everything. although, make sure you fix permissions in recovery after that as well.
or, you can use titanium backup, backup all system/app + data, then restore all after flashing.
those two should work just fine.
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If the Sense version changes or the tweaks applied change, there will be lots of force close issues.
michaelgcarro said:
Hello. I have a HTC Sensation 4G on T-Mobile rooted with OrDroid on it. OrDroid releases New updates VERY frequently. I have my homescreen customized to my liking.... (widgets, shortcuts, folders, etc.) And I was wondering if I could somehow save my homescreen layout so I don't have to spend a lot of time changing it after I do a clean install of an update. It is really frustrating customizing my home screens several times per week. Is there some file on the phone that contains the positioning of the items on the homescreen that I could back up?
Thanks, and pardon my noob-i-ness... This is my first post.
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Simplest way to do this is change the default launcher to some other launcher that will let you save your settings (search; I know only of Go Launcher).
Backup the data for this launcher using Titanium backup before switching ROMs & then after switching back, change the default launcher again & restore the settings.
Although doing this will mean you cannot use tweaks on Rosie.
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If the Sense version changes or the tweaks applied change, there will be lots of force close issues.
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i know that, but he said he will be only using OrDroid so
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kgs1992 said:
Simplest way to do this is change the default launcher to some other launcher that will let you save your settings (search; I know only of Go Launcher).
Backup the data for this launcher using Titanium backup before switching ROMs & then after switching back, change the default launcher again & restore the settings.
Although doing this will mean you cannot use tweaks on Rosie.
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that actually might not work...as there might be different widgets he's using as well. for example, i'm using Nova launcher, and when i only restore it from titanium backup, i only get the wallpaper, and few "system" icons, and widgets i had. and even if i restore the apps that i previously had widgets of on my home screen, it will end up empty, and i'll have add each widget individually....which turned out to pretty hard each time, since my layout is uniquely done. so ever since OrDroid 3.**, i restored Data, and never had a force close what so ever
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Simplest way is to use Titanium backup. "HTC Sense [Desktop]" saves your sense desktop configuration/layout.
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+1 takes 15 seconds and I've never had issues, after restore my layout goes to just how i had it
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arabology said:
that actually might not work...as there might be different widgets he's using as well. for example, i'm using Nova launcher, and when i only restore it from titanium backup, i only get the wallpaper, and few "system" icons, and widgets i had. and even if i restore the apps that i previously had widgets of on my home screen, it will end up empty, and i'll have add each widget individually....which turned out to pretty hard each time, since my layout is uniquely done. so ever since OrDroid 3.**, i restored Data, and never had a force close what so ever
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I might have been wrong then, sorry.
kgs1992 said:
I might have been wrong then, sorry.
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no need the OP now can see what method suits him best and try depending on his situation.
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+1 takes 15 seconds and I've never had issues, after restore my layout goes to just how i had it
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Same here, never had an issue, even my folders are the same.....
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arabology said:
well, what i do is, making a full backup in recovery, full wipe, flash the new ordroid, after that, make an advanced restore, and only restore data from the backup i previously made. that restores my ROM just the way it was before flashing, all apps, home screen layout, launcher, settings, messages, and contacts. everything. although, make sure you fix permissions in recovery after that as well.
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This method is the simplest BUT if the ROM base change you must NOT do an advanced data restore. Neither with Titanium Backup. When the ROM base change the best thing to do is to restore all manually, it doesn't happen frequently that ROM base changes so once in a few we must do our layout settings manually.
eg of ROM base incompatibility : Sense 3.6 to Sense 4, GingerBread to Ice Cream Sandwich, etc
Hope it helps!
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This method is the simplest BUT if the ROM base change you must NOT do an advanced data restore. Neither with Titanium Backup. When the ROM base change the best thing to do is to restore all manually, it doesn't happen frequently that ROM base changes so once in a few we must do our layout settings manually.
eg of ROM base incompatibility : Sense 3.6 to Sense 4, GingerBread to Ice Cream Sandwich, etc
Hope it helps!
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Correct. And shnizlon does change his ROM base often.
Note to OP since he'll be using OrDroid: when the first number in the version name changes, means that a new base is used. Or, you can check the changelog, and see if the ROM base is changed.
This thread has come from a simple layout backup, to a full backup discussion lol
Saving home screens
You can use the previously suggested backup in titanium backup, however, as an OrDroid user I know the base changes quite often so be careful because this can cause force closes, if the base remains the same it should be fine
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Simplest way is to use Titanium backup. "HTC Sense [Desktop]" saves your sense desktop configuration/layout.
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Thank you so much for the tip, works great for my HTC One S - ViperC2 5.1.0 - HTC Sense 5.0
Tested also with Rom Toolbox, the concept is the same for any backup app. It's useful mostly because 90% of my apps are in SD and apps links get lost every time I reboot. Thanks again
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