How to get Titanium Backup to restore all widgets in LP? - General Questions and Answers

To those who flash roms all the time, I've noticed that sometimes when I do a full Titanium restore after a fresh ROM flash, sometimes Titanium Backup will restore Launcher Pro where it doesn't go "Error loading Widget" for every widget. Instead sometimes I get a full proper restore.
This is clearly an issue for those of us that customize so much that we have overlapping stretching widgets that we need to play widget tetris.
How can I get Titanium backup to do this? I haven't investigated enough but it's clearly a set of events that I've done to get it to work SOMETIMES....
So far I've noticed that this has happened with Nandroid backups for "ROMs" on the Milestone. Those Nandroid backups are essentially bare bone OS installations with customized stuff (since we have a locked bootloader still, so updates are harder). I usually do a Ti backup full restore and sometimes the widgets of my Launcher Pro restore perfectly.

It is android not letting you restore widgets. It just doesn't work. not TiBu or LP or any other home screen replacement.
Get Gingerbread and maybe that will fix your problem.

darkamikaze said:
It is android not letting you restore widgets. It just doesn't work. not TiBu or LP or any other home screen replacement.
Get Gingerbread and maybe that will fix your problem.
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The problem is it does it once in a while. I know it's not supposed to work becase only the official Launcher Pro widgets will be restored. You are supposed to have to add back your own widgets, but once in a while a titanium backup restore upon flashing a new rom gives me my original homescreen where I don't have to manually re-add any widgets.

I think you're on something because it doesn't.. only reason LP widgets work is because you're using it's own widgets and the launcher can load it because it's its own propriety. I think the only way you can have widgets restored to state is through a nandroid restore.. and even that i'm not too sure.

It's a security thing, Android doesn't let any program, aside from the official Widget Picker, add a new Widget. So when you restore, the Launcher tries to add the Widget, Android checks to see if that program is authorized for that widget. If it is, it adds it. If not you get the error or empty space.
If you restore the data without uninstalling Launcher Pro or resetting your phone, I imagine Android still has the widget authorized so no permission error occurs.

darkamikaze said:
I think you're on something because it doesn't.. only reason LP widgets work is because you're using it's own widgets and the launcher can load it because it's its own propriety. I think the only way you can have widgets restored to state is through a nandroid restore.. and even that i'm not too sure.
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It has done it.
You are right that a Nandroid restore will restore everything because a Nandroid is essentially like an HD image. But I can assure you what I'm talking about was a Titanium Backup incident. My problem is that I've seen it a few times, but I haven't investigated it enough to reproduce it or to see how to get it. Perhaps someone here has also seen it before, but shrugged it off.
I'm a Milestone User and when we still had Eclair mods like this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=765346
The modder replaced the default launcher.apk with LauncherPro. So what happens is he uses Nandroid to make a Nandroid image of his "ROM." Yes. Locked bootloader FTL. So we use Nandroid images. Essentially it's still a bare bones version of a ROM.
Well, I have all my apps backed up on Titanium Backup before I install this because its like a full wipe. I then restore all my apps.
Now I've only used like 8 versions of his ROM compared to like 2-3 of other ROMs, so perhaps its the fact that when installing his ROM, he already HAS LauncherPro as the default system launcher. Thus when I'm restoring my Titanium Backup, when it reads my Launcher Pro settings and puts it in the system app, it has no problem accessing widgets.
I do remember it failing once in a while too, but there have been AT LEAST 3-4 times where I did NOT have to restore any of my own widgets.
Once again I highly suspect this has something to do with having LauncherPro integrated in the Nandroid backup, even if it doesn't have any of my widgets.
I'm asking this because I'm using CM6 now and it uses the update.zip method and obviously I can't trigger the LauncherPro thing anymore. I don't know how it worked before, as it seems to be a bug. I completely understand that Launcher Pro is not supposed to allow restoring of non LP widgets. How it's done it before, I do not know.

dmo580 said:
To those who flash roms all the time, I've noticed that sometimes when I do a full Titanium restore after a fresh ROM flash, sometimes Titanium Backup will restore Launcher Pro where it doesn't go "Error loading Widget" for every widget. Instead sometimes I get a full proper restore.
This is clearly an issue for those of us that customize so much that we have overlapping stretching widgets that we need to play widget tetris.
How can I get Titanium backup to do this? I haven't investigated enough but it's clearly a set of events that I've done to get it to work SOMETIMES....
So far I've noticed that this has happened with Nandroid backups for "ROMs" on the Milestone. Those Nandroid backups are essentially bare bone OS installations with customized stuff (since we have a locked bootloader still, so updates are harder). I usually do a Ti backup full restore and sometimes the widgets of my Launcher Pro restore perfectly.
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This too has happened with me as well and not only with TB but also Mybackup root as well, TB has option like applications widgets and MBR says android home, I flash alot and I say 10% of my restores this happens with (working) I tried every ordering i can think of to reproduce it but never can seems completely random. I wish someone could figure this out because it does work just not sure how to always reproduce it.

He is not on anything... This has happened to me also.
Like he said every once and a while after installing a new rom and doing a titanium restore everything goes back to normal widgets and all.
This would be very helpful for me because I don't use icons at all. I strictly use custom Icon and desktop visualizer. So this would be huge to figure out the work around to make it work every time

Stupid question..
Have you tried restoring everything BUT LP with Titanium, let it finish, then restore LP with Titanium?

i reinstall new rom > wait 15 > reboot.
restore backups via titanium > reboot.
at this stage, my widgets don't display. i'll usually open market to login, open talk, maps. whatever else requires logins or permissions and reboot.
most of the time, after this last reboot my widgets appear, but this time they didn't. after restoring tons of stuff again and rebooting, no change.
this time i opened google finance (which i have a widget for and requires login). i allowed it's permissions and rebooted. my widgets appeared.
in this one case, i believe i had to open each application i have a widget for to make sure they were all logged in, then reboot.
i hate having to restore my widgets each time. i'd love to figure out the secret to restoring them consistently.

I can get Titanium to restore all my widgets every time. I use TB to backup "Application Widgets" before flashing a new ROM.
Obviously once I restore all my apps with Titanium Backup my Widgets all show up with the error. But if I restore "Application Widgets" again and immediately restart my phone using a quick reboot app (I use Hot Reboot) the widgets all load fine.
I'll usually do a full restore of all my apps. Put a Hot Reboot widget on my homescreen. Restore "Application Widgets" again. Reboot using Hot Reboot. Then when the phone is done booting all my Widgets appear correctly (minus the Hot Reboot widget I just added, it errors out).
Don't know if it'll work for everyone but it works every time for me. Saves a lot me time.

EDIT: Works perfect!

dustinb17 said:
I can get Titanium to restore all my widgets every time. I use TB to backup "Application Widgets" before flashing a new ROM.
Obviously once I restore all my apps with Titanium Backup my Widgets all show up with the error. But if I restore "Application Widgets" again and immediately restart my phone using a quick reboot app (I use Hot Reboot) the widgets all load fine.
I'll usually do a full restore of all my apps. Put a Hot Reboot widget on my homescreen. Restore "Application Widgets" again. Reboot using Hot Reboot. Then when the phone is done booting all my Widgets appear correctly (minus the Hot Reboot widget I just added, it errors out).
Don't know if it'll work for everyone but it works every time for me. Saves a lot me time.
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I don't find anything in Titanium Backup to select backup "Application Widgets"? How this is done? Thanx
IS this LauncherPro specific or does it work with other launchers

rickg99 said:
I don't find anything in Titanium Backup to select backup "Application Widgets"? How this is done? Thanx
IS this LauncherPro specific or does it work with other launchers
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I don't believe it has anything to do with Launcher Pro actually. It's listed in green for me indicating that it's a "System service with useful data". I have the paid version of TB and I have no idea if that has anything to do with it.
It's available for me in batch mode and through backup/restore. It's exact name is "Application Widgets" the icon is the Titanium Backup Circle and it's listed in green with all the other Apps that start with A.

I see Application Widgets on the free version also, I haven't tried it before though...next time I switch ROM's I'll give it a shot!

dustinb17 said:
I don't believe it has anything to do with Launcher Pro actually. It's listed in green for me indicating that it's a "System service with useful data". I have the paid version of TB and I have no idea if that has anything to do with it.
It's available for me in batch mode and through backup/restore. It's exact name is "Application Widgets" the icon is the Titanium Backup Circle and it's listed in green with all the other Apps that start with A.
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Don't understand that. I have latest Titanium but I don't have anything found to backup/restore "Application Widgets" or "System service with useful data". Whre do I find that. I have default launcher as well as Launcher Pro but don't find it with both launcher. Thank you.

rickg99 said:
Don't understand that. I have latest Titanium but I don't have anything found to backup/restore "Application Widgets" or "System service with useful data". Whre do I find that. I have default launcher as well as Launcher Pro but don't find it with both launcher. Thank you.
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The "System Service with useful data" is in the legend if you hit menu. It describes what the programs written in green indicate. Maybe try a Batch backup of all system data, and look for it in there. If you do a Batch "Backup of all system data" do you have anything in that list listed with green writing?
Edit: I guess it may depend on your root status as well. I know I'm rooted with S-Off, maybe that has something to do with it if you're not.

thank you.this trick is working perfect. i tried it with a cm7 rom in hd2

got it
Going to try this now - flashing another ROM just to see.

dustinb17 said:
I can get Titanium to restore all my widgets every time. I use TB to backup "Application Widgets" before flashing a new ROM.
Obviously once I restore all my apps with Titanium Backup my Widgets all show up with the error. But if I restore "Application Widgets" again and immediately restart my phone using a quick reboot app (I use Hot Reboot) the widgets all load fine.
I'll usually do a full restore of all my apps. Put a Hot Reboot widget on my homescreen. Restore "Application Widgets" again. Reboot using Hot Reboot. Then when the phone is done booting all my Widgets appear correctly (minus the Hot Reboot widget I just added, it errors out).
Don't know if it'll work for everyone but it works every time for me. Saves a lot me time.
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Sorry for digging up an old thread but I just had to say thank you for this. Really saved me a buttload of time! THANKS!

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[Q] Backup and restore Personalization and Settings

Hey Guys,
read some threads about backup, but i couldn't find one, that answers my questions...
I'm using ARHD on my Sensation an Mike recommends SuperWiping on every new Base.
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Apex Restore

I keep having one issue when flashing / restoring nandroids. Its has to do with Apex Launcher.
I get Apex to restore with the icons, etc.
But the one thing I cant get to work (and its a PITA to have to redo each time) is when I set up direct dial shortcuts to contacts on my desktop.
The pictures of the contacts will reappear...but when I click it I get "the contact does not exist"
Ive tried to use titanium, to use apex's own backup and restore...somehow I can get this to work. Advice?
lirong said:
I keep having one issue when flashing / restoring nandroids. Its has to do with Apex Launcher.
I get Apex to restore with the icons, etc.
But the one thing I cant get to work (and its a PITA to have to redo each time) is when I set up direct dial shortcuts to contacts on my desktop.
The pictures of the contacts will reappear...but when I click it I get "the contact does not exist"
Ive tried to use titanium, to use apex's own backup and restore...somehow I can get this to work. Advice?
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I've had that issue multiple times with apex and from what I'm aware it was never fixed
Back up Application Widgets in TiBu before you flash.
In my experience, though, it ends up backing up the position of the Widget, but not the Widget itself. Not very helpful, I know. Last time I tried it, though, was a couple of versions ago so maybe something has changed.

[Q] Switching ROMs Question

Hi, I'm sorry if this question has been asked, I would like to start switching ROMs to test different ones, and I've been using Titanium Backup to backup all my data. I know that I should only restore back the user data and never system data when switching ROM's however I hate having to setup my widgets and homescreen layout everytime I switch ROMs. Is it safe to restore the backup of the Launcher even though it is in red text under Titanium Backup? I've read that it is okay to restore system data for the ones with yellow text but if its green or red it shouldn't be restored.
Is there any alternative of being able to switch between ROMs without having to setup your home screen icons everytime? Thanks.
bobokun said:
Hi, I'm sorry if this question has been asked, I would like to start switching ROMs to test different ones, and I've been using Titanium Backup to backup all my data. I know that I should only restore back the user data and never system data when switching ROM's however I hate having to setup my widgets and homescreen layout everytime I switch ROMs. Is it safe to restore the backup of the Launcher even though it is in red text under Titanium Backup? I've read that it is okay to restore system data for the ones with yellow text but if its green or red it shouldn't be restored.
Is there any alternative of being able to switch between ROMs without having to setup your home screen icons everytime? Thanks.
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If you're moving between Stock ROMs or Between AOSP ROMs with the same launcher, it shouldn't be an issue.
rootSU said:
If you're moving between Stock ROMs or Between AOSP ROMs with the same launcher, it shouldn't be an issue.
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Thanks. If I'm using Google's Launcher do I just restore Launcher in Titaniumbackup? I heard that I also need to restore Google Search as well.
bobokun said:
Thanks. If I'm using Google's Launcher do I just restore Launcher in Titaniumbackup? I heard that I also need to restore Google Search as well.
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I'm not sure about the latter. Just restore data (not app) for launcher so do it separately. However, titanium is never great at restoring laucnhers anyway
rootSU said:
I'm not sure about the latter. Just restore data (not app) for launcher so do it separately. However, titanium is never great at restoring laucnhers anyway
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Thanks Do you have any better alternative solution for restoring launchers other than titanium?
bobokun said:
Thanks Do you have any better alternative solution for restoring launchers other than titanium?
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Not really I am afraid. I use Nova. Titanium restores the widgets as "place holders" and nova allows me to "tap to restore widget" but even then, I have to add a bit of configuration to each. I've never found a perfect solution and as a result, have much less complicated homescreens nowadays.

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I had a setup perfect and ready to do a nandroid backup when I decide to run Purify.
Boom, lots of spinning wheels later my Reader+ and Transparent Weather widgets will not update unless I run the apps as separate apps.
I have tried to start them, protect them, etc.
Any advice helpful.
Oh, and I'm running Nova Pro and forcing or not widget updates makes no difference. Autostarting or not males no difference. Using something like Autorun and Stay Awake doesn't work.
Would just like to unpurify without restoring from a nandroid backup.
Rudolpht said:
Oh, and I'm running Nova Pro and forcing or not widget updates makes no difference. Autostarting or not males no difference. Using something like Autorun and Stay Awake doesn't work.
Would just like to unpurify without restoring from a nandroid backup.
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Wait, you're running Kingroot?
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