Constantly Losing 4G - Thunderbolt General

Ever since i got the thunderbolt the 4G kept getting switched on and off every few minutes or so. i figured maybe it was because Rochester,NY has spotty 4G. So back home in NYC the same thing still happens. It's especially frustrating because i have to keep toggling the internet on and off when i'm trying to listen to my streaming radio that gets disconnected every 5 min. forcing me to listen to a minute of commercials when i do get connected again.
unrooted and didn't get the latest update yet

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[Q] Data Drops?

Anyone else experience data drops recently? I would say maybe a week, two weeks ago at most it started happening.
Before that I had a solid data connection, it was edge to 4g, but it retained it's connection well.
Now for example if I'm driving to work, 25% or more of the drive in random spots I have bars, sometimes full bars, but NO data at all.
This was not like this when I first got the phone, but is becoming more frequent now.
Am I the only one?
I have very similar issue or if not than its probably same issue, ever since two days ago its been happening so often. When the phone goes to sleep when you wake it up its always searching so when u try to make phone call it'll say not registered to a network.
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I cant even really use things like slacker radio or pandora anymore because it drops data so often.
Possible solution?
I'm helping a friend with a similar issue.
I myself have an htc evo, and under settings/networks/mobile data, there's a toggle settings called enabled always on mobile data. This setting maintains the data connection even when the phone is asleep. Without this, after ~5 min, push email no longer works, nor does anything else that use data.
Now, I only had a chance to use the S 4G for a few hours about a week ago when I set the thing up for him. I can't remember if there was such a setting under networks or not.
For those of you who have the phone handy, or are familiar with it, can you advise what samsung calls this function, and where it's located in the menu structure?
Thanks!!
I couldnt find any setting similar to the one you're referring to, just data while roaming which is enabled.
The main thing I find odd, is the phone only started doing it recently.. it performed great and always had data before.
Not to sound like a have a tin foil hat on.. but it's only started happening after the merger was getting announced. Could just be a coincidence, but odd timing nonetheless.
Do you have wifi enabled?
Since he's got wifi in his house, I left that on for better battery life as opposed to using tmobile data. I wonder if there's a handoff issue when he leaves.
If you're using wifi, try turning that off and keeping it off.
Yes.. I never have wifi enabled.. I'm talking about driving to work.. I have an hour drive.
Before I had solid data, it was edge or 4g, but regardless data 100%..
Now have I have data maybe 25% of the drive.
I've changed nothing. T-mobile has changed.
Oh this is frustrating indeed! What geographic area are you in? My friend is in chicago.
Does the data drop and reconnect, or stays dropped?
Bay area California..
Like I said, 3 weeks ago.. ZERO issues, constant connection, no drops, no problems.
Yet 1-2 weeks ago.. constant drops all the time, no data at all.. if i stream radio it will drop data completely so actually kill the connection with my radio stream.. becomes extremely obnoxious since it's very frequent.
This NEVER happened before.
It reconnects but takes oddly long.. for example, normal data reconnect from a sleep is maybe 15-20seconds.. this is more like 5-10 minutes.
I *WONDER*.... with the evo's wimax (4g) settings, there's a number of parameters that can be adjusted as far as signal quality (SNR), time outs, min signal strength required for connection, etc..
Maybe you travel through a questionable signal area, and it has a hard time re-establishing connection while in motion... On the evo, we get into that menu by ##3282# from the dialer. There's gotta be a similar menu for tmobile's 4g.
i know SGS tools allows you to switch between auto, GSM, WCDMA bands on the fly. This may help you in your problem if you want the phone to stay in 4G mode or not. the phone generally has a problem with Death-Grip users and the weak antenna.
The phone was working great week ago this started to happen i thought this had something to do with my phone being rooted but i have another friend with exact same issue and his phone is not rooted. If u put ur phone to GSM only than ur not going to have the isuue but you'll be on EDGE connection at all time.
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Well I think the main point that's being over looked, is when i purchased the phone, i did not have this issue, at all, ever.
So well over a month or more with ZERO issues, now all of a sudden I have the issues.. I've changed nothing, i rooted and modded the phone day #1.
I am with you. My wife and I both have this phone. It had been working great and and then all of a sudden, about 2 weeks ago, we are having nothing but problems with our data connections. We live in the Seattle area.
Has anyone contacted t mobile to ask about data problems? They don't have the most reliable network.
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It could be a throttled down data stream. Do you unlimited Data plan?
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I to am having the exact same issue in downtown chicago. I have contacted Tmo and gone through all of their troubleshooting steps. They even replaced my phone last week and I still get data and cell drops. When I called back they were going to dispatch a tech to the area to determine of there was an issue with a tower, but I don't expect anything to come from it. My problem started about 3-4 weeks ago. The only thing that helped a little was to switch the wireless network from WCDMA/GSM tp GSM only. You are confined to Edge for data, but the data seems more reliable. I am wondering if their towers are reaching capacity and therefore we are seeing drops???
I don't have that issue at all. It work just like when I first got the phone...
We here in oldsmar fl had a really bad data drop last sunday that we couldnt make or receive any phone calls but data and texting was workin. I called t-mobile n they couldnt detect any outage in this area n they had me troubleshoot all of my phones (3 of them) n nothing worked after about an hour of being on the phone with them I decided to drive about two miles away n I was able to make phone calls! ...by monday everything was fixed in my area but now im seeing weird stuff on the phone signals like when I make a phone call n I hang up I see the edge icon on the phone n then about 5 secs later it goes back to the 4g icon...that didnt used to happen before...I've even seen the G icon which ive never seen before in this phone since I got it...what the hell is going on with t-mobile towers? R they slacking? or maybe doing some kinda preparations to convert to ATT signals? Just my thoughts...
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I'm having issues too and its making me sofaking mad! I don't even use a gig of data and I'm on edge for half my billing cycle ... Phone is great but I think it's the sh!t service T-Mobile gives to their customers ... at this rate you all may see me on the Nexus S 4G real soon... I've had 2 issues with T-Mobile so far in less than a month... I don't think its the phone...
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every other boot in exact same spot, PRL changes

So I have been for the past week, at my house, having about the worst 4G reception ever. It shows 4G in the status bar, until I actually try and connect to any internet service, and then it disappears. Well this started on my second Thunderbolt, so I assumed something was up with the phone, specially since I unrooted the phone, and the issue was still there. So I went and exchanged my phone today. I noticed that the issue remained. Brand new phone, at my place of work today was pulling 20+ down from speedtest and then I go home, and even outside my house, it is loosing 4G everytime you try to do anything on the internet.
I noticed only one difference. My PRL changed from 15008 to 15011.
So figuring my new phone is probably fine from a HW standpoint, I went ahead and rooted this phone, and I noticed something weird. Everytime I boot the phone, it switched between two PRLs. It either has a PRL of 1, and then reboot and it then will have a PRL of 15011. Rinse and repeat.
I also noticed that in the same location that it used to be signal strength was around -82Db, and is now closer to -95Db.
So I am going to call Verizon tomorrow, and see if they know if a tower is down, etc, or see if they can check into it, as my phone is only usable at home on 3G, which is the same reason I paid my ETF on sprint and left for verizon, because I could get LTE in my house.
I even tried Das BAMF 1.5 and then flashed the radio update, and there was zero change in anyway.
I am going to assume there is a screwy tower nearby that is causing my problem, but if anyone has any suggestions let me know!
my phone acts the same way around my apartment...
i think they must be messing with the towers still. specially cause we haven't officially got 4g here yet.
have the same problem up in Northwest Columbus - 4G has been going in and out for the last two days for me - figured it was just the tower, 3G is absolutely fine.

Constant network issues

I am on my 3rd device in 3 days. First one was rooted, second one was not. This current one is also not rooted as well.
Unless I am very unlucky, I am going to assume there is a definite issue with the network configuration on this device. Status says I have 3 bars of 4G coverage, however I cannot connect to the internet at all.
Network Signal Info says I am on UMTS with a -93DBM, data is connected. However nothing will load. If I put the phone into airplane mode and then turn airplane mode off the networking comes back online. Speeds are slow though, barely able to perform basic mobile web browsing and watching youtube and such isnt possible. Too slow an too long to buffer.
This doesn't only happen at my house, it happens in other areas as well but it does happen constantly at home. I a not a heavy data user on my account, 1-2GB monthly, so Tmo says they arent throttling me. They have replaced the SIM every time with the devices as well.
Suggestions? If I cannot figure this out soon I am going to cancel my service as I cannot pay for a service and phone that just doesnt work. Tmo seems stumped. They just keep replacing phones since I am within my 14 day return/exchange period.
However, 3 devices all having the same issues sure seems to either prove the phone has an issue, or m general area of Tmo service.
I live in downtown Tempe, AZ.
Your wifi works?
I have the same issue in my house... I have a weak signal and 4g drops down to 2g which is terrible.... 4g downloads are 3Mbps, but uploads are under 100kps
I changed the network mode to wcdma only which helps significantly. 4g drops, but quickly returns...
Give it a try...
I'm having the same issue here in Orlando. I've had 2 phones now (first one was just a bad unit) and both have had horrible network connectivity and reception. I take my SIM card out and put it in my 2 year old MT3G and it gets perfect reception and fast data transfers while the G2x is choking on network transfers.
Go complain here in LG forum. This is software issue.
http://www.lgforum.com/forum/boards/general/lg/topics/g2x-wifi-problems
have full bars but cant download anything. just sits at waiting for data connection.
We really need a baseband modem that works better. My bars goes to zero then to edge and then to 3g constantly. Any time it switches between the connections then the the bars goes to zero and it says there is no conection. Also noticed that 3g connection fluctuates very bad while doing a speed test.
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ceroglu said:
We really need a baseband modem that works better. My bars goes to zero then to edge and then to 3g constantly. Any time it switches between the connections then the the bars goes to zero and it says there is no conection. Also noticed that 3g connection fluctuates very bad while doing a speed test.
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How are you getting 3g? Unless you meant to say 4g?
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How are you getting 3g? Unless you meant to say 4g?
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T-mobile only has 3g connection avaliable where I live, of course it says 4g on the phone but in reality it is only 3g.
ngerasimatos said:
I am on my 3rd device in 3 days. First one was rooted, second one was not. This current one is also not rooted as well.
Unless I am very unlucky, I am going to assume there is a definite issue with the network configuration on this device. Status says I have 3 bars of 4G coverage, however I cannot connect to the internet at all.
Network Signal Info says I am on UMTS with a -93DBM, data is connected. However nothing will load. If I put the phone into airplane mode and then turn airplane mode off the networking comes back online. Speeds are slow though, barely able to perform basic mobile web browsing and watching youtube and such isnt possible. Too slow an too long to buffer.
This doesn't only happen at my house, it happens in other areas as well but it does happen constantly at home. I a not a heavy data user on my account, 1-2GB monthly, so Tmo says they arent throttling me. They have replaced the SIM every time with the devices as well.
Suggestions? If I cannot figure this out soon I am going to cancel my service as I cannot pay for a service and phone that just doesnt work. Tmo seems stumped. They just keep replacing phones since I am within my 14 day return/exchange period.
However, 3 devices all having the same issues sure seems to either prove the phone has an issue, or m general area of Tmo service.
I live in downtown Tempe, AZ.
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I wonder if there is an issue with our network in Arizona?? I live in Chandler, and work in Scottsdale. my data times out ALLL THE TIME. Both here at home, and at work. Same with my text messaging. Literally, I do exactly what you do with the "airplane" mode. That's the only way to get my data and text working again (besides restarting).
Here are the issues I posted in the LG Forum:
http://www.lgforum.com/forum/boards/carriers/t-mobile/topics/few-issues-with-g2x#26861
(first issue posted is what you are talking about)
I dont think this is a regional issue. Downtown Minneapolis here, and I cant get it to stay on wifi or Edge/4g for more than a few minutes at a time. G1 has no trouble and shows strong 3g while my sisters mt4g shows full 4g. 4g/E symbol just flickers on my g2x leaving me with no connection. I can connect to wifi fine, but even with wifi sleep set to never it still disconnects every few minutes, and has to be toggled on/off to reconnect. Until toggling it just sits flickering 4g/E with no data connection.
I've never seen my Evo drop a E/4g/wifi connection and struggle to reconnect once in the year I've had it. My g2x does it almost every time I pick it up.
Did you try going into Mobile Networks in Settings and changing the mode to WCDA Preferred or something? That'll stop the flip flopping. That's what I have it on and that's what the phone came with out of the box.Also try Auto in that menu.

4G LTE Data Connection "Stall"

So I have a perfectly good 4G LTE signal going, data speeds are great and all, but every once in a while it will just stop receiving data. The 4G LTE icon is still there, occasionally I see the upstream arrow flash, but the downstream arrow remains blank. A difference that I see from other people's connectivity issues is that I never once see it switch to 3G/1X when this happens.
One thing to note is that this behavior is not readily apparent until you're doing something real-time network dependent, like streaming audio/video for a considerable duration of time until it cuts you off suddenly.
Between 10 seconds to several minutes after data stops transmitting, it starts working again. Sometimes I get impatient and just toggle between CDMA only/LTE automatic to get 4G LTE working again without having to wait.
Is this a common issue among Charge owners? I noticed the reviewer at Anandtech had a near identical experience (though not always fixable without a reboot for him):
"My only complaint is that every once in a while, the LTE data session sometimes stalls briefly – sometimes for a a few seconds, other times for a few minutes. When that happens, you’ll see the uplink green arrow blink, but no orange downlink arrow. Rebooting the device fixes things."
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After conversing a bit with him (he also reviewed the Thunderbolt/Revolution), this apparently only happens with the Charge, but he also has faith that Samsung would fix this through software (RIL) or hardware (firmware). Given Samsung's track record with smartphone updates, I'm not so sure they will.
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Given Samsung's track record with smartphone updates, I'm not so sure they will.
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Considering a month after the phone's launch we already have a Gingerbread leak I think this device will most definitely see support from Samsung. It is a DROID branded phone after all, and Verizon is statistically the best carrier for updates, they do take special care of the "DROID" phones over every other Android handset.
4G is flakey, on both devices that offer it. I have both the Thunderbolt and Charge with me most of the time, and I see all kinds of flakiness on both. It's the network.
It is definitely the network. I had a Thunderbolt before the Charge and it was FAR worse with network connectivity falling off the face of the planet despite having full 3g/4g.
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I have had the same problem. I usually wait and it comes back in about 30-45 seconds, but it is annoying. It was really bad for a couple of days but has been better the past couple.
I personally haven't had to much issue with 4g dropping out. However people need to keep in mind that LTE is new for both the mfgs & carrier. So it is going to take time to get all these bugs worked out. That said I have to give props to VZW and the mfgs tho because back when they were building out 3G originally you want to talk about issues my lord was it bad.
I have had this issue, with the 3G and the 4G, but I can't say that it's a deal breaker for me, compared to the lousy HSPA+ signal my Vibrant had. It's only ever happened to me at my house, which is right on the edge of LTE coverage, so it switches back and forth a lot. But I have to give the network the benefit of the doubt for right now, it's a brand new network and a brand new device. And the 97% of the time that things work properly, it's so far above and beyond the T-Mobile network I have no regrets about switching.
I called Verizon with the same issue last Friday. Their resolution after a couple of questions was to overnight me a new (certified like-new) Charge and SIM card - the replacement was received on Monday. I haven't had any issues since, but I also stopped seeing the issue after I made the complaint.
Regardless, replacement has been better and locks a GPS signal much quicker. Maybe it's the SIM card?
SAME CRAP HERE!!!!
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I tested if I have this behavior using LTE only mode (dial **583 in Phone app) and indeed I do, so this furthers my belief that my issue is not due to something wrong in the hand-off between 4G/3G.
I found out the way to actually change the data modes and tested using EV-DO Rev. A instead of eHRPD (in conjunction with LTE) and also using just CDMA 1X (in conjunction with LTE, essentially disabling 3G), but my issue of dropping data exists. The 4G LTE icon is displayed the entire time when it happens, I just seem to lose connectivity (and all three of the tests in the Phone Info area fail) temporarily. For what it's worth, I'm not moving the phone around at all when this happens.
I think I would actually be more content if when the data connection stalled, my 4G LTE icon just disappeared or if it switched to 3G because then it would make more sense to me (that I may have lost connection to the 4G service and it's attempting to reconnect to either 3G or 4G), but as it stands, all I get is a constant 4G icon with intermittent dropouts. The switch to 3G/1X seems to be the more common issue among 4G smartphone owners, but my (and the reviewer at Anandtech's) issue seems to deal completely within the 4G network, and I've tried every leaked radio to no avail.
The regularity of the dropouts seems kind of random as well; I'm not sure how I can figure out the source of the issue. Does anyone know if there are some logs that I can look into to see if something is happening to my phone at the very instant that I'm having these stalls?
Of course, I'm not discounting the fact that it might completely be on the side of Verizon's network and/or my area in San Diego and has nothing to do with my phone, and I may in a minority of users that actually continuously uses the 4G enough to notice these dropouts, which on average happen once every half hour to hour or so. Sometimes I'm able to stream something for several hours without the stalls, and other times it'll happen frequently within a short time span.
I just got off the phone with tech support for the intermittent data drop problem. After confirming that I was on EE4, and that I had tried doing a factory reset, he is fedexing me a new sim card.
Really hope it works, I love the phone but losing data for 1-2 minutes at a time randomly is pretty lame. Especially since I switched to Verizon for their reputation as the better network.
Racer447 said:
I just got off the phone with tech support for the intermittent data drop problem. After confirming that I was on EE4, and that I had tried doing a factory reset, he is fedexing me a new sim card.
Really hope it works, I love the phone but losing data for 1-2 minutes at a time randomly is pretty lame. Especially since I switched to Verizon for their reputation as the better network.
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Is your problem the same as mine (data drops all while 4G icon is displayed) or is yours the more common 4G to 3G/1X transition or losing the 4G network icon data drop?
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Is your problem the same as mine (data drops all while 4G icon is displayed) or is yours the more common 4G to 3G/1X transition or losing the 4G network icon data drop?
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The data will stop. Then the 4g or 3g icon will disappear entirely for a minute. Then it will reconnect at either 4g,3g or 1x, I don't really see a clear pattern, it seems totally random to me.
Is there anyone who's reading this that regularly uses their 4G continuously (i.e. hours) for streaming web content (e.g. radio streams, live video streams, etc.)? If so, do you experience any occasional dropouts or is the 4G connection for you rock solid?
Racer447 said:
The data will stop. Then the 4g or 3g icon will disappear entirely for a minute. Then it will reconnect at either 4g,3g or 1x, I don't really see a clear pattern, it seems totally random to me.
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hey, I have exactly the same problem!
same here,lose 4g icon when i use either the mobile hotspot or the tethering option.longest i have been connected was about 15 minutes.
fender22 said:
same here,lose 4g icon when i use either the mobile hotspot or the tethering option.longest i have been connected was about 15 minutes.
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Tested on mine and same result.
Edit: Rebooted and it works fine been on it 20+ now, I'll be testing some more
A couple of days ago my SIM card crapped out.
Now that i have a new one my 4G signal has been more consistent and stronger than ever. I live in a fringe area and before the new SIM it would constantly switch between 4 and 3G. Now i go for hours on 4G and it even stays on 4G in places that it would always switch and stay on 3G.
Get a new SIM before getting a new phone.
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After reading this thread I'm considering switching to either the Thunderbolt or the Revolution, or something else when it comes out...
Anyway, I have experienced this same thing.
The only difference in my situation is that I'm trying to use my LTE internet as a dedicated connection. The setup I'm trying to do is plug my phone into my router and have the router distribute the verizon LTE internet through my apartment. My router currently has the latest version of tomato installed and I compiled my own RNDIS module (modified to work with the charge). Everything works for the first few minutes (15-20), then I notice the 4G icon "stall", then disappear, then reconnect. After the first disconnect and reconnect, the internet connection is very unstable and will disconnect every couple of minutes until I disable and re-enable the internet again... very frustrating.
In the interim, I've been using EasyTether and this works very well. I have streamed hours of 720P video and it works flawless; not one skip or reconnect.
This leads me to believe that it is either one of the following:
The kernel - I'm currently using the PBJT kernel found in the latest version of humble. I'm not sure if the stock rom will provide better stability.
The radio - I currently have the EE4 radio installed, but am very curious to know the stability of the GB radio updates (EP1f, etc.).
Any other ideas would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks!

[Q] Phone restarts itself on bad wifi connection?

This past weekend I went home to my parents place, and they have a truly godawful internet connection. When you add than on top of the fact that it's a brick house, you get a spotty wifi connection to a slow line combined with a small wifi antenna in a phone usually means that wifi on my phone is terrible when I'm there.
Unfortunately I forgot my laptop this weekend, and wanted to watch some netflix before going to bed. Because I didn't want to destroy my monthly data limit (2gb) I decided to try the wifi. It was working ok at first, long buffers, low quality, but watchable. But then my phone restarted itself.
When it turned back on, I load up the same episode and it does it again. At first I think it's a netflix issue and leave it alone. But the next day while browsing (chrome), it does the same thing. I then realize that all three times, it got hung up while loading. In the case of netflix, loading the episode, and in the case of the browser, whatever page it was. I then turned off the wifi and tried netflix over the 4g connection and it worked perfectly. Same thing with browsing.
Has anyone else encountered this problem, or know about an alternate explanation that could be restarting the phone? If so, do you have a solution? It restarted itself probably a total of 6 times while the wifi was turned on, and not once after I switched it off. At home, with a strong wifi connection, it also never restarts itself.
Thanks for any help.
TL: DR Phone restarts itself while trying to load stuff on a slow wifi connection. Does not restart on 4G or good wifi.
Thanks for the TLDR haha
What ROM are you running? I personally have never had that issue.
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At the moment I am running stock, unrooted. I just got this phone last week after having a Samsung captivate for two years. While I had that thing ROM'd to the gills, but rooting and installing ROMs seems a bit more complicated on this phone and I am taking my time making sure I know what I'm doing first.
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At the moment I am running stock, unrooted. I just got this phone last week after having a Samsung captivate for two years. While I had that thing ROM'd to the gills, but rooting and installing ROMs seems a bit more complicated on this phone and I am taking my time making sure I know what I'm doing first.
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Is the wifi protected?
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