4EXTRecovery and Rom Manager - HTC Desire S

Hi
I installed 4EXTRecovery and now the Rom Manager.. Rom Manager tells me that I need to install ClockworkMod.. isn't 4EXTRecovery doing the same as ClockworkMod? Can I just choose "Flash ClockworkMod Recovery" or does that destory 4EXTRecovery?
Cheers
Michael

4EXT is based on cwm recovery but it have more function than cwm recovery.if you choose flahs CWM recovery,it will replace 4EXTRecovery

ok.. thats exactly what I understood.. but than I cannot use rom manager?! (if I want to keep ext4recovery?)

That is because Rom Manager is made by the same person/people that made CWM.
They will want you tu use their recovery software for better compatibly.

You can use it, press menu and then manual flash override
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chaelli said:
ok.. thats exactly what I understood.. but than I cannot use rom manager?! (if I want to keep ext4recovery?)
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I only use rom manager premium and I can use ext4 recovery, maybe this is why? Although rom manager is of the few programs that I'll never mind paying for as it pays for all of our recoverys, ext4 included
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ben_pyett said:
I only use rom manager premium and I can use ext4 recovery, maybe this is why? Although rom manager is of the few programs that I'll never mind paying for as it pays for all of our recoverys, ext4 included
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I have to disagree with you. I bought it and it is not working for me. I can not see ANY premium ROM, I cannot use update feature, nothing... I'm not the only one with this issue and people, including me, reported it and there is no progress... no one is trying to help us.

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Any Other Recovery App, Besides ROM MANAGER??

I Was Wondering, If Anyone Knew Of A Custom Recovery Program, Other Than... "CLOCKWORK" That Could Be Installed In App Form?
Similar To "ROM MANAGER"
It Seems Like "ALL" The Alternatives Have To Be Installed With "ADB"!
Would It Be Possible To Flash A Zip Of Another Recovery, From My Current Recovery "CLOCKWORK"?
*I Know, Sounds Crazy To Me To!"
That's The Reason I'm Asking For A Alternative In App Form!!
If Anyone Knows?
Help Me Out, Please.....
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There use to be a ramon recovery but not sure what happen to it. It's similar to clockwork. I think it's also install thru rom manager.
azzzz said:
There use to be a ramon recovery but not sure what happen to it. It's similar to clockwork. I think it's also install thru rom manager.
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I think you're meaning Amon Ra?
funny how people from connect-i-cut capitalize every word of a sentence
masully1984 said:
funny how people from connect-i-cut capitalize every word of a sentence
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Lmao....
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ROM Manager has an option in it specifically for "flash alternate recovery" where it will allow you to install Amon Ra instead of Clockwork. I'm not even aware of any other custom recoveries aside from those two.....
What if you can't get ROM Manager to install on your phone, it will download but not install. I did a super one click root for cliq xt and now can't get rom manager to flash over another rom
Same here, I only know about those two!
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perhaps you can use unrevoked3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=725738
Thanx for the "Help" guys!!
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[MISC] Desire S instructions to achieve custom ROM

could someone with a big heart tell me the instructions on what should i do after achieving S-OFF? can you post it as step by step? what should i install first? Recovery? Radio? flash? sorry for this question but im a bit confuse on what to do first after s-off until i flashed a cooked rom.. please do help me...
After root, firstly you flash a Recovery then you flash a Rom of your choice. Either with ROM Manager from the market or Manualy. You ll find more detailed instruction at the Recovery thread and the Rom thread.
when should i do a nand backup? flashing the radio? and sir whats the difference of clockworkmod recovery from ext4? because the thread of CWM says it is much better to go to ext4 thread? can you ellaborate to me?
yerfdes said:
when should i do a nand backup? flashing the radio? and sir whats the difference of clockworkmod recovery from ext4? because the thread of CWM says it is much better to go to ext4 thread? can you ellaborate to me?
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As soon a you instal recovery perform backup
ext 4 is simply CWM base with extra additions...go with ext 4
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ben_pyett said:
As soon a you instal recovery perform backup
ext 4 is simply CWM base with extra additions...go with ext 4
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so sir are you saying that ext4 is the one that i should choose instead of CWM only?
yerfdes said:
so sir are you saying that ext4 is the one that i should choose instead of CWM only?
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that is what I have done....
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ben_pyett said:
that is what I have done....
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So here is the order? S-off > root > flash with ext4 > full wipe > then install custom rom?
yerfdes said:
So here is the order? S-off > root > flash with ext4 > full wipe > then install custom rom?
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As it's your first time (I'd suggest)
(although as with any advice that you read on here it is given with best intention only and not necessarily correct....do this at your own risk)
1)
S-off (if by XTC this will also perform factory reset of your device so ensure you've sync'ed/ backed up data first)
2)
Download and run ginger break (to get root (then reboot)
3)
download and install the free application rom manager from android market
4)
Use rom manager to flash CWM (very simple option and it will do it for you)
5)
Use rom manager (gui - very easy) or CWM to perform your first full (Nandroid) backup
6)
follow wipe instructions that come with the custom rom installations instructions that you're planning on installing, if installing LBC rom (personally I've suggest this one) then there is a specific wipe script to run
7)
Download and Install custom rom
good luck
You can update to ext4 recovery at a later time when all the above has worked
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If he uses the original CWM to do a wipe he will end up with an ext3 partition.
Better off installing cwm through rom manager and booting into recovery and flashing ext4 recovery. Then backup rom and flash custom rom.
MarylandCookie said:
If he uses the original CWM to do a wipe he will end up with an ext3 partition.
Better off installing cwm through rom manager and booting into recovery and flashing ext4 recovery. Then backup rom and flash custom rom.
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O yer , good point, although if he installs ext4 afterwards won't it convert the ext 3 to ext4 for him?
Anyway I was suggesting that he runs LBC wipe all script that I believe will only make ext4 partitions
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Thanks guys for all your help i would really appreciate everything...
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Sure. In my country, There're many forums about HTC or Smartphone, and many people exchange their experiences through the forum. Then I'll give you a useful website:
after you click it, choose HTC Desire S section.
It's a chinese forum. You can get some help of language from Google Translate.
Starfine said:
Sure. In my country, There're many forums about HTC or Smartphone, and many people exchange their experiences through the forum. Then I'll give you a useful website:
after you click it, choose HTC Desire S section.
It's a chinese forum. You can get some help of language from Google Translate.
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Can you send me the link? And can you teach me how to use google translate?
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let me up this question.. whats next after s-off using alpharevx? what should i do first? root? install what? flash what? can you give me a step by step process upto flashing a custom ROM? hope someone is patient enough to provide me a instruction...
yerfdes said:
let me up this question.. whats next after s-off using alpharevx? what should i do first? root? install what? flash what? can you give me a step by step process upto flashing a custom ROM? hope someone is patient enough to provide me a instruction...
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Did you install CWM recovery after getting S-OFF (alpharevx tool asks whether you want to)?
guyz little help here.. whenever i try to flash rom, it keep say error *****.zip(bad) ... how do i fix this? new to all this >.<
edit: okay nvm i guess its bad img .. is flashing now ~
actually im waiting for alpharevx windows version... i just want to know the step by step procedure on what to do first upto the last in order so i would not end up bricking my device..
TBH I've never used Linux before but just run Ubuntu from disc and it was pretty easy
I used this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...&postcount=138
Just dont follow steps 13, 14 (since this is for another phone)
Wew! finally I was able to S-off my Desire S! but my question is what's next?
Sorry I'm a total noob on this. Btw, After the s-off process, alpharevx said if I want to install clockwork recovery, I typed "Y" then it says "downloading clockwork for saga" but after that nothing happens. It's just stuck there so I disconnected my device and rebooted it.
How can I install clockwork and how can I root my device? thanks
ghuk said:
Wew! finally I was able to S-off my Desire S! but my question is what's next?
Sorry I'm a total noob on this. Btw, After the s-off process, alpharevx said if I want to install clockwork recovery, I typed "Y" then it says "downloading clockwork for saga" but after that nothing happens. It's just stuck there so I disconnected my device and rebooted it.
How can I install clockwork and how can I root my device? thanks
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Download ext4 v1.1.1 and folliw the instruction in thread. Its easy.. Btw ghuk sorry if im not to active today when soff is available our thread. I am a bit busy on more important matters but later night i will be active.

[RECOVERY] Official CWM Recovery

Everyone need to Download rom manager right now. I just flashed official cwm recovery just now v5.0.2.7 and yes its for doubleshot.
Directions:
1. Make Sure Your On a WiFi connection.
2. Go here: http://www.clockworkmod.com
Go to recoveries, Download v5.0.2.7 recovery for doubleshot
3. Download Term Emulator
4. Using root explorer, move the recovery image to /data/local, then mount System r/w in root explorer, then press the home button.
5. Then open Term emulator and this....
su
dd if=/data/local/recovery-clockworkmod-5.0.2.7-doubleshot.img of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p21
Press ENTER
6. It should say transferring bytes blah blah
7. Open ROM manager and press reboot into recovery.
8. If it says v5.0.2.7 then You are done.
Rom Manager has a rom for the HTC Doubleshot too
I'd say Doubleshot is looking mighty good with official CWM recovery and CM7
I saw it and about sh+t myself. Today is great day for doubleshot community.
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Stryder5 said:
I'd say Doubleshot is looking mighty good with official CWM recovery and CM7
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Yes indeed. I am thrilled.
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I was surprised when I saw it. I thought I was going to have to send Koush another tweet badgering him about it.
Sent from a message in a bottle.
so I need to install ROM Manager then install CWM Recovery img file from ROM manager?
charia said:
so I need to install ROM Manager then install CWM Recovery img file from ROM manager?
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Yes
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charia said:
so I need to install ROM Manager then install CWM Recovery img file from ROM manager?
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I am also very new to this. So what about the current Modaco CWM Recovery 4.0.0.9? It will still be there but it won't be used? Do we also access nandroid backups from ROM manager? (So in other words, will we only do everything with ROM manager from now on?)
quicklee said:
I am also very new to this. So what about the current Modaco CWM Recovery 4.0.0.9? It will still be there but it won't be used? Do we also access nandroid backups from ROM manager? (So in other words, will we only do everything with ROM manager from now on?)
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ROM Manager is just a way to access CWM Recovery. If you flash the official CWM Recovery, it will overwrite Modaco's version.
Woot. No more charging issues. Thanks for the heads up.
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Undeadk9 said:
Yes
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THANKS pal..
BTW I can't choose any files in ROM manager to install the img file which I've downloaded already, so I can only download again through my phone..
charia said:
THANKS pal..
BTW I can't choose any files in ROM manager to install the img file which I've downloaded already, so I can only download again through my phone..
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What are you doing? Simply open rom manager.....press flash cwm recovery twice......then press reboot into recovery .....you are making it way harder then it needs to be.
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Undeadk9 said:
What are you doing? Simply open rom manager.....press flash cwm recovery twice......then press reboot into recovery .....you are making it way harder then it needs to be.
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well... I haven't used ROM manager before, so I downloaded both ROM manager and recovery file from website,and put them on sdcard ,but then I found I couldn't use the img file I downloaded ,so ......
"press flash cwm recovery twice" ,I've installed cwm recovery exactly the same
charia said:
well... I haven't used ROM manager before, so I downloaded both ROM manager and recovery file from website,and put them on sdcard ,but then I found I couldn't use the img file I downloaded ,so ......
"press flash cwm recovery twice" ,I've installed cwm recovery exactly the same
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Just flash thru rom manager.
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It feels like my birthday...
I know rite? First, I figured out how to jungle with noc on LoL, and now this? Wins all around.
Installed new recovery through rom manager, to 5.0.2.7 and rebooted into recovery.
All seems well.
BUTTTTTTTT when i tried to do a backup of my current virtuous rom i get an error: "can't mount target path"
And then when testing the restore i get an error: "can't mount path /sdcard"
And when testing the wipe & format options, instead of the traditional Yes or No.... I now have like 10 No options and 1 Yes option.
Something seems bogus, ive reinstalled the recovery twice but same effect.
Anyone??
Whats happened to my recovery guys???
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dillalade said:
Installed new recovery through rom manager, to 5.0.2.7 and rebooted into recovery.
All seems well.
BUTTTTTTTT when i tried to do a backup of my current virtuous rom i get an error: "can't mount target path"
And then when testing the restore i get an error: "can't mount path /sdcard"
And when testing the wipe & format options, instead of the traditional Yes or No.... I now have like 10 No options and 1 Yes option.
Something seems bogus, ive reinstalled the recovery twice but same effect.
Anyone??
Whats happened to my recovery guys???
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if you see 10 NO and 1 YES ,you get it right.yes, it's just like that.
and my backup works fine ,restore? don't know, not test
UPDATE: restore works fine with 5.0.2.7
charia said:
if you see 10 NO and 1 YES ,you get it right.yes, it's just like that.
and my backup works fine ,restore? don't know, not test
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I went back to 4.0.0.9 and I can backup/restore again.
Something with the latest recovery doesn't allow my device to mount and see/work with my sd card..... any advice people?
Where can i get the img file so i can try to flash after a fastboot erase wype.... However i dont see how everyone else has it working and mine mashed.

4Ext Recovery

Hi, I am trying to install the Revolution HD ROM...it says to install 4EXT recovery. I downloaded the updater and installed the program on the phone. However, when I boot into recovery (volume down/power), it stills boot into clockwork recovery.
Can I flash that ROM from that? or should it show 4EXT recovery? Do I have to uninstall Clockwork or something?
Sounds like you forgot to flash the recovery.
Rhiannon224 said:
Sounds like you forgot to flash the recovery.
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Sorry for off topic but i always see you on topic related whit 4ext any particular reasons ?
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shahkam said:
Sorry for off topic but i always see you on topic related whit 4ext any particular reasons ?
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It's smooth as butter, I love the fact that you have more control over what you are backing up, ie not backing up Davik or cache, saves room and time, faster backup and restore than CWM and it has themes. Stability. I've been using it since it's first release, it was the first Touch Recovery.
Oh...sorry for being dumb...but how would you flash the 4EXT recovery? I couldn't really find a clear guide to install it...I just downloaded the apk file as instructed and then install the program from the app....I haven't seen anywhere about flashing the 4EXT.
Appreciate your help!
newr said:
Oh...sorry for being dumb...but how would you flash the 4EXT recovery? I couldn't really find a clear guide to install it...I just downloaded the apk file as instructed and then install the program from the app....I haven't seen anywhere about flashing the 4EXT.
Appreciate your help!
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Easy, just open up the 4ext app that you downloaded and click online install, make sure you have internet and just follow the on screen directions.
newr said:
Oh...sorry for being dumb...but how would you flash the 4EXT recovery? I couldn't really find a clear guide to install it...I just downloaded the apk file as instructed and then install the program from the app....I haven't seen anywhere about flashing the 4EXT.
Appreciate your help!
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Open the app, there should be an option for installing recovery. I am on paid app so I am not certain where it's located in the free version. Should be up at the top I would think.
You can flash without 4Ext but with 4Ext it's better and have more options,like instaling diferent kernels and Sony Bravia engines.You will like 4Ext better once you have it.
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An APK of 4EXT free can be downloaded at their website at 4ext.net or you can follow the link in my sig
Flash the ROM, it includes 4Ext Recovery in it.
Rhiannon224 said:
It's smooth as butter, I love the fact that you have more control over what you are backing up, ie not backing up Davik or cache, saves room and time, faster backup and restore than CWM and it has themes. Stability. I've been using it since it's first release, it was the first Touch Recovery.
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Sweet ! Does it flash roms faster aswell ??
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Flashing roms with rom manager successfully

The first time I flashed a from I used NVFlash but after that I used rom manager to boot into recovery when I was on gb now I'm running ics and I just hold down the power button click reboot>recovery and flash rooms from there and it works is this normal? Cuz I heard ur suppose to ALWAYS use nvflash
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Laxshanth said:
The first time I flashed a from I used NVFlash but after that I used rom manager to boot into recovery when I was on gb now I'm running ics and I just hold down the power button click reboot>recovery and flash rooms from there and it works is this normal? Cuz I heard ur suppose to ALWAYS use nvflash
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So which is it? If you're always doing Power button > Reboot > Recovery you are booting into the NvFlash'd CWM recovery not ROM Manager
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So which is it? If you're always doing Power button > Reboot > Recovery you are booting into the NvFlash'd CWM recovery not ROM Manager
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Ohh ok thanks makes sense but what about when I use to be on gb I use to use rom manager
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You can also use ROM manager to boot to recovery, the reason people advise against using the app altogether is because the fake flashing that ROM manager does.
ROM manager will boot into nvflash recovery successfully as long as you never flashed the fake recovery via ROM manager.
So again, if you never flashed via ROM manager, then holding power>reboot recovery = going to ROM manager and booting to recovery.
buru898 said:
You can also use ROM manager to boot to recovery, the reason people advise against using the app altogether is because the fake flashing that ROM manager does.
ROM manager will boot into nvflash recovery successfully as long as you never flashed the fake recovery via ROM manager.
So again, if you never flashed via ROM manager, then holding power>reboot recovery = going to ROM manager and booting to recovery.
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Okayy that's why it works lol thanks alot!
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Not that it matters, but I have always flashed both recoveries. It's not that Rom Manager "fake" flashes it, it isn't flashed on a persistent partition that can be reached via button combo. I use Rom Manager and it's "fake" recovery mostly for nandroids. In reality, there's literally 2 separate recoveries, albeit, one is worthless in any "no boot" situation. Other than that, it's fine to flash roms and what not, just always have both, never just R M.
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Not that it matters, but I have always flashed both recoveries. It's not that Rom Manager "fake" flashes it, it isn't flashed on a persistent partition that can be reached via button combo. I use Rom Manager and it's "fake" recovery mostly for nandroids. In reality, there's literally 2 separate recoveries, albeit, one is worthless in any "no boot" situation. Other than that, it's fine to flash roms and what not, just always have both, never just R M.
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Before I'm pretty sure I downloaded a rom and it didn't have rom manager so I downloaded it from the play store and went into recovery through that and flashed a rom? Or is that normal?
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That's fine, what we're all trying to explain is that if you mess up and your phone won't boot normally, you won't be able to recover it with the Rom Manager recovery since it is only accessible through a working a ROM. This is why we Nvflash it on a persistent partition that can be accessed regardless if you have a working rom or not. There's no difference between the two recoveries, only where they are flashed.
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buru898 said:
You can also use ROM manager to boot to recovery, the reason people advise against using the app altogether is because the fake flashing that ROM manager does.
ROM manager will boot into nvflash recovery successfully as long as you never flashed the fake recovery via ROM manager.
So again, if you never flashed via ROM manager, then holding power>reboot recovery = going to ROM manager and booting to recovery.
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I agree. ROM Manager which should be named ROM Mangler has seriously messed up phones causing its victims many hours of panic and grief. Stay away from it.
Kinda off topic but if rom manager is so bad why is it included with custom roms? One of the first things i do is uninstall it with titanium backup
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Kinda off topic but if rom manager is so bad why is it included with custom roms? One of the first things i do is uninstall it with titanium backup
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Because it can be used to boot into Recovery, and it is useful for the purpose of organizing backups
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