[Q] New OTA Update worth it? - Thunderbolt General

I do not have any reboot issues.
Should I update? I do not care about hotspot as I do not use it at all.
One thing I am interested is battery life. Will new OTA update help with battery life?

That is probably a not so easy question to answer, since the OTA is stock and many people around here are running custom roms which have been tweaked every which way to squeeze as much juice out of them as possible.
Depending on who you ask, some will say it's better now or it's worse now.
Problem is that no two people use or run their phones exactly alike. Also, no two phones are exactly alike, so internally, they may not work exactly the same.
So I guess it comes down to a matter of choice. I think the general consensus is that the new update is pretty stable and at some point you are going to have to update your phone to take advantage of new features, so it's really up to you.

I haven't had any issues with the update. However, don't let them fool you, the data connectivity issues still exist.

I got my Thunderbolt March 19th and haven't had the issues that others have reported. My phone use to randomly reboot, but it never got in my way since the reboot occurred when I was sleeping. The only difference I've notice with the update is that my phone has not rebooted one time since I applied the update.

No issues here too...

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[Q] Will CM7 take care of a lot of these bugs??

I just switched over to a G2X Saturday from a Cliq with CM7 (Before that, J_Rodds 1.6, and Motoruler3) I have been reading about all these bugs with the G2X and I am sure that many of them will be fixed by LG eventually. My biggest problem with my handset is the data and phone reception. Now I have to use wifi calling from my house where I have never had any problem in the past. My battery life is not the best either. What I would like to know is if these problems will be fixed with the new roms that will be coming out? I am seriously considering returning the G2X and waiting on the HTC Sensation, however I really prefer the smaller 4 inch screen over the 4.3 so I would like to stick with this phone if I know all these issues will eventually be gone. I certainly was able to do all kinds of things on the Cliq I would have thought imposable. I appreciate anyones feedback.
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I just switched over to a G2X Saturday from a Cliq with CM7 (Before that, J_Rodds 1.6, and Motoruler3) I have been reading about all these bugs with the G2X and I am sure that many of them will be fixed by LG eventually. My biggest problem with my handset is the data and phone reception. Now I have to use wifi calling from my house where I have never had any problem in the past. My battery life is not the best either. What I would like to know is if these problems will be fixed with the new roms that will be coming out? I am seriously considering returning the G2X and waiting on the HTC Sensation, however I really prefer the smaller 4 inch screen over the 4.3 so I would like to stick with this phone if I know all these issues will eventually be gone. I certainly was able to do all kinds of things on the Cliq I would have thought imposable. I appreciate anyones feedback.
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I don't want to make promises for them, but the (minor) issues are mostly software based. CM uses very little from the specific device software outside of drivers and baseband, etc., so yes, I think you'll see a lot of improvement.
I must be a lucky one or something I havn't had any of these issues that are coming up the phone has been great so far. Even the screen bleed on mine is super minimal and can't really be noticed. I'm guessing alot of the bugs will be cleared up by CM7 or the official update.
if you wait for the sensation, you'll be at the mercy of the carriers for support. good luck with that. i've read that cyan won't be supporting htc and their locked bootloaders. so you'll be waiting for carrier support or on another dev who is willing to hack at it.
It sounds like Im gonna have to stick it out for the 2 weeks I have. Sounds like in that time all these bugs should be fixed one way or another. My main issue is with the reception. Is that something that can be fixed with an update of with a custom rom or am I stuck with what I have in the phone now??
What bugs?
My main bug is the cellular reception and data. I am fortunate not to have any of the other bugs Im seeing posted. (knock on wood)

Is it just me having all the buggy issues?

I don't know if it's my root, the leaked rom i'm running or because i titaniumed all my apps back on my phone.. but i'm getting random resets, slow performance (for a DUAL CORE phone?!?) and little quirks here and there... i'm selling my G2 tonight on clist and now i'm nervous about letting it go with these issues. Just little minor things here and there...
is it just me anyone else experiencing small nagging issues?
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I don't know if it's my root, the leaked rom i'm running or because i titaniumed all my apps back on my phone.. but i'm getting random resets, slow performance (for a DUAL CORE phone?!?) and little quirks here and there... i'm selling my G2 tonight on clist and now i'm nervous about letting it go with these issues. Just little minor things here and there...
is it just me anyone else experiencing small nagging issues?
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I am getting random reboots etc. Also my GPS is now almost useless. I am on the leaked GB rom but everything else is stock. I am trying to decide whether to get a refund or take a chance on getting one that is good. This is my third one and while it is much better than the first two it has too many little issues. I am very undecided and am thinking i will get a refund and wait for the SGSII
I wasnt getting lagg on the leaked GB but I was getting reboots. Went back to stock w/ Paul's tweak. It's stable and plenty fast until gingerbread gets official. Most of those issues are software related so rest assure they will be fixed at some point.
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I wasnt getting lagg on the leaked GB but I was getting reboots. Went back to stock w/ Paul's tweak. It's stable and plenty fast until gingerbread gets official. Most of those issues are software related so rest assure they will be fixed at some point.
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Thanks I may try going back to stock with Paul's tweak for a couple of days, I hope it is software related I would hate to keep it and find out different.
All phones are buggy when they first come out. When the gingerbread update goes out most if not all the reboot and freezing issues will most likely be fixed. The only problems with the phone that are confirmed hardware problems (to my knowledge) have to do with the LCD screen.
What is pauls leak?
Sent from my LG-P999 using XDA App
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1051616
Hey guys...ive been reading all over the net that the first batch of G2x were really poor. What is the manufacturing date for your phones?(this date is found on the box on the back along with IMIE# and other bar codes)
I am currently on phone #3 and so far no issues. My manufacturing date is 4/25/2011. I think the second batch is manufactured sometime after 4/20/11.
btate0121 said:
I don't know if it's my root, the leaked rom i'm running or because i titaniumed all my apps back on my phone.. but i'm getting random resets, slow performance (for a DUAL CORE phone?!?) and little quirks here and there... i'm selling my G2 tonight on clist and now i'm nervous about letting it go with these issues. Just little minor things here and there...
is it just me anyone else experiencing small nagging issues?
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Did you have buggy issues running stock??? If your answer is no then yes it is you and the rom you flashed.
Im running stock rooted, bloat ware gone, pauls fix, not a single reset, optimal performance, quadrant from 2700-2800. Love this phone.
G2X
I'm not getting any lagginess that I've noticed, but I get the issue with texts being delayed and the data connection dropping out a lot. I'm trying to decide if I should return it to T-Mobile or stick it out and hope that a fix comes soon.
Most of your complaints are software based problems
Which can be fixed
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Suprah said:
Most of your complaints are software based problems
Which can be fixed
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Yes, but "can be fixed" and "will be fixed very soon" are two very different things.
I am using eaglesblood rom and it has been very stable, i had to return one phone but this second phone has been working much better, if you have the ability to exchange i would go that route first before selling the phone.
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I am using eaglesblood rom and it has been very stable, i had to return one phone but this second phone has been working much better, if you have the ability to exchange i would go that route first before selling the phone.
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i agree with piztol, i am on my third phone with a manufacturing date of 4/25/11 and so far i have had no freezing,SoD(sleep of death), or restarts and a battery life of about 15 hours on pretty heavy usage. i firmly do not belive that our problems are software based. I believe its hardware.

[Q] [i9023] ICS/2.3.6 based Roms, Manual ICS update, Titanium Backup

Hi guys sorry for the several topics in my subject line but there are several questions that I have.
So I just signed up because I'm a bit confused and I'm quite new to the scene. I actually posted this on another forum which I'm already a member of, but I felt it would be better posting here since this is obviously more specialised.
After reading the rules, I've realised that it's quite hard to do a search for existing topics with my questions. I've already tried to do individual searches on each topic though, with varying success.
I've just rooted my Nexus S (i9023, AUS version) for the first time simply because I wanted to be able to use DroidWall (to only allow certain apps to use data).
1) If I manually update to ICS, will I lose root?
2) Does installing a custom ROM cause you to lose all your data? - I've done some searching on this and it seems to depend. Some do and some don't. I don't quite get it though.
3) Kernels - seem to control battery life and how the operating system runs. This slightly confuses me because it makes me think, what affects battery life more: the kernel or the ROM?
4) Most people like to overclock their phones in the interest of power. Would it be reasonable to underclock it in the interest of battery life? Sometimes I don't think I really need 1GHz.
5) It seems like the OTA for ICS for i9023 has not been released yet but has been for i9020?
I'm trying to find the best 2.3.6 Custom ROM from here but none of these are 2.3.6 based! All of them are 2.3.4 or older. I'm hesitant upgrading to ICS for three reasons:
1) Hasn't been released OTA officially
2) Worried of app compatibility
3) Worried of shorter battery life
For these reasons, I'm looking for a 2.3.6 based custom ROM otherwise I'd be happy to look at ICS custom ROMs.
None of the ICS ROMs seem to have any distinctive features about them, especially after watching the video reviews. It's all pretty much "it's a great ROM that doesn't lag when browsing the web and it's fast". Nothing really distinguishes one from another.
Sorry for the mildly long post, but I'd rather ask as many questions as I can at a time rather than making a couple of threads for each. Hope I can get some help =)
Thanks in advance!
I bought 9023 in hk. Upgraded to ics by ota.
If you want, you may do it manually. Flash the rom by yourself. Ota is no longer available. Check it out at nexusshack.com
I don't have battery problem. But don't know why.
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App
xdaillum said:
Hi guys sorry for the several topics in my subject line but there are several questions that I have.
So I just signed up because I'm a bit confused and I'm quite new to the scene. I actually posted this on another forum which I'm already a member of, but I felt it would be better posting here since this is obviously more specialised.
After reading the rules, I've realised that it's quite hard to do a search for existing topics with my questions. I've already tried to do individual searches on each topic though, with varying success.
I've just rooted my Nexus S (i9023, AUS version) for the first time simply because I wanted to be able to use DroidWall (to only allow certain apps to use data).
1) If I manually update to ICS, will I lose root?
If it is the update you probably will (not 100% sure), if it is the full OTA you certainly will. But it is not a major issue either way, and i would actually recommend backing up with TB (AND a Nandroid), wiping everything and then installing the Full OTA ROM and just root again, then restore your backup.
2) Does installing a custom ROM cause you to lose all your data? - I've done some searching on this and it seems to depend. Some do and some don't. I don't quite get it though.
They will generally lose any system data, apps, modifications, etc. Titanium Backup will copy over most of it anyway, particularly apps and their settings/data. Keep in mind that you should always have a CWM backup (Nandroid) ready in case something goes wrong.
3) Kernels - seem to control battery life and how the operating system runs. This slightly confuses me because it makes me think, what affects battery life more: the kernel or the ROM?
Both. ROMs can do more or different functions which can cause battery drain. Kernels allow you to change your own settings (most of the time) to actually balance performance and drain. I would say at the moment with ICS, the kernel and the settings you give it is the biggest contributor.
4) Most people like to overclock their phones in the interest of power. Would it be reasonable to underclock it in the interest of battery life? Sometimes I don't think I really need 1GHz.
That is correct. Many people can get the same speed with a lower voltage, lowering battery drain. Others also use something called "LiveOC" and increase the clocks by 10% (or more), changing the bus speed and giving similar speeds to 1000mhz at only 880mhz, again saving power. Just remember every CPU batch has different variations - some can undervolt and overclock like crazy, whereas some struggle with a 5% increase.
5) It seems like the OTA for ICS for i9023 has not been released yet but has been for i9020?
The i9023 and i9020T has been released. The i9020A has not, and the same with the Nexus S 4G (D720 i believe). It sometimes doesnt show up though. Either try a manual command which i can't remember in the dialpad or just update manually (manually is best ).
I'm trying to find the best 2.3.6 Custom ROM from here but none of these are 2.3.6 based! All of them are 2.3.4 or older. I'm hesitant upgrading to ICS for three reasons:
1) Hasn't been released OTA officially
2) Worried of app compatibility
3) Worried of shorter battery life
For these reasons, I'm looking for a 2.3.6 based custom ROM otherwise I'd be happy to look at ICS custom ROMs.
None of the ICS ROMs seem to have any distinctive features about them, especially after watching the video reviews. It's all pretty much "it's a great ROM that doesn't lag when browsing the web and it's fast". Nothing really distinguishes one from another.
Sorry for the mildly long post, but I'd rather ask as many questions as I can at a time rather than making a couple of threads for each. Hope I can get some help =)
Thanks in advance!
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Lots of words, i'm getting a little confused up there. Anyway, if you are rooted (and i assume your bootloader is unlocked), there is nothing to worry about as long as you backup. I personally love ICS and have no issue with it, as do many others. A minority of people however tend to have some problems, whether its battery or force closes. My experience so far has been that a proper wipe fixes most of these anyway.
ICS is still new. Once Cyanogenmod 9 is officially released i'm sure we'll see much more variety than the same look and feel, as alot is based off their code. And also, practically no phones have ICS yet. I've not found app compatibility a problem though, i think the main gripe is viber (which should work soon).
I hope this can help you, just let us know if there is anything else you're after. Also, there is a TON of information around the site (and Nexus S forums in particular). A good amount of reading and going through a couple of pages of some of these threads can go a long way. That is why you came here after all, isn't it?
I got the OTA for ICS back around 20th Dec 2011, but I chose not to update it because I was going to be away from a computer for a few days and had no backup phone. When I wanted to update it a few days later, the update had disappeared from my phone so I looked it up online. Apparently the OTA disappeared for Nexus S's due to some bugs or incompatibility issues. I've never seen the update come up on my phone since. Even when I go to Settings->About phone->System update, it says "your system is up to date". So I've always been under the impression that ICS for Nexus S (at least for my variant, i9023) has never been re-released to us OTA.
Harbb, thanks for your answers. The only one I'm not so sure about is the underclocking one. It seems a little beyond me in terms of technicality. I am definitely interested in doing it though. Would you be able to tell me if adjusting clock speed requires an app?
I am rooted and bootloader is unlocked (I thought you could only root if bootloader was unlocked?).
So does that mean all these custom ROMs around at the moment are mostly based around Cyanogenmod, which is why they're very similar? As I was saying, I was looking at getting a custom ROM installed and noticed most of them are ICS custom ROMs, and the video reviews all say "this ROM is fast and does not lag when web browsing. It's a great ROM and it's fast and smooth."
The custom ROMs just don't seem to be "promoted" too well because I can't see what makes one better than the other, or what features of one custom ROM are intended to be the standout ones.
I notice you (Harbb) are using Stock ICS 4.0.3 (according to your sig) - so you are not using a custom ROM? Am I able to install a custom ICS ROM without first installing ICS? I am still running 2.3.6 at this point.
Viber does not work at the moment? That's not too bad. I can live with that.
I've done quite a bit of reading so far. It has certainly helped, but still a long way to go, but thanks for giving me a great start!
I will start backing up my apps using TB and CWM (Nandroid)!
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Best line i've read in days
I have tried several custom ROMs once they started surfacing but i didn't feel like they gave me anything special enough to switch to right now and Stock is setup and running very nicely. Stock ICS colours are fine and other apps now can provide Notifications Widgets. I havn't noticed any particular differences in speed either.
Brainmasters ICS tweaks, custom kernel and Flavours of ICS runs beautifully. The OTA varies with where it shows up. To force a check, type this in dialer: *#*#checkin#*#* [AKA, *#*#2432546#*#* ]
If you are rooted it won't work anyway. Just update manually. There is no need to currently on ICS to flash custom ICS ROMs. I would advise that when going from GB to ICS though (and often between some custom ROMs) that you go into CWM and do a factory/data wipe and format /system. After backing up of course.
At the moment most are not based on CM9, however several do use bits and pieces of code (ie. notification power widgets) from it. Not sure why most ROM descriptions are the same
First thing i'd consider is getting a custom kernel, and then the NSTools app (market). Lots of stuff to mess around with and full control of the CPU (governors, IO, overclocking, undervolting, etc).
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Best line i've read in days
I have tried several custom ROMs once they started surfacing but i didn't feel like they gave me anything special enough to switch to right now and Stock is setup and running very nicely.
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agree with u. for 4.0.3, stock is my favorite, sad to say that.
for 4.0.4, while stock for NS not available, IMM26 ROM ported from NS4G seems good, if you like the stock rom feel.
Hmm I bricked my phone.
I've done the Nandroid and Titanium Backup and have it sitting on my computer ready once I recover this damn thing. Following the backups, I attempted to manually update to ICS with the zip file on this page: http://www.androidcentral.com/how-manually-update-your-gsm-nexus-s-ice-cream-sandwich
Now I'm following these two threads to try and recover the phone:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1397393
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1396056
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20382688&postcount=16
Hopefully I will get this back up and working. I'm still confused as to why it got bricked though. Updated via clockworkmod "update from sdcard" and then rebooted system. After that, it just bricked. Can't get any lights to come up on the device whatsoever. Plugging it in to computer, wall charger, pressing all the buttons, taking the battery out and putting it back in.
Odd. Best of luck getting it working, i'm sure the resurrector will work for you so don't stress too much. That's the right file so i'll probably just put the issue on a bad flash or bad download (wise to hash check before flashing). At this point i'd say it's wise when you get it working again, just flash the Full OTA file, and do a wipe of /data, /cache, /system and /boot beforehand.
Sad to hear about your troubles buddy.
So it looks like everything worked out for me. I managed to restore my phone with the help of the threads above. I have to admit though, the guides given on this forum aren't too "complete" - there's always a step or two missing from the guide that the reader has to figure out themselves. And not all the files are provided in the topics either! I'm also kind of concerned why it seems so many people ended up bricking their phone like that. Quite concerning.
In the end, I managed to reflash the stock ICS ROM for i9023 Nexus S which I found in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1445635
So I scrapped the one that I downloaded initially from Android Central. The difference in size was surprisingly roughly 30MB (160MB instead of the 130MB Android Central one).
I'm just using stock ICS, but rooted. Downloaded a few apps which require root, but haven't tried adding any mods or kernels. I might look into that later. But it seems like with 4.0.4 coming out, there might be some interesting new additions!
Thanks for all your help!!
Did you flash this ics from stock recovery?
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Congratulations on resurrecting it! Are you guys saying that there is a risk of bricking a phone, while installing official update? I did a manual update, 3 weeks ago, unrooted, and ICS has been nothing but amazing for me.
I have a question. In case, I ever brick my I9023 (hope not).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20382688&postcount=16
This post states that I must be running Ubuntu on my PC. Does that mean I can't use Windows? And if I must use Linux, can I just do it with Wubi, or with Online Server?

Performance and Alternate Firmwares

Folks,
My TF700, along with a few others I've seen post here, has been increasingly sluggish under JB compared to ICS, regardless of how many cold boots and complete resets are performed. In addition, I get frequent white screen crashes and complete reboots that happen under heavy use.
So, with that said, here are my questions from those of you with some experience:
1. Should we expect an update from the manufacturer that will address all of this within a short (month?) period of time?
2. Since it's official that CM will provide an "official" port to the TF700, how long does it usually take them to provide a fairly feature rich one (GPS, Microphone, etc support unlike the unofficial port in the development forums)?
3. If both #1 & #2 are >1 month, can you recommend a solution that provides all tablet features? The other JB builds I saw do not provide full features from what I could see, correct?
Thank you for any answers you can provide.
If you are unlocked, you can always downgrade to ICS .30, or a custom Rom like cleanrom.
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Folks,
My TF700, along with a few others I've seen post here, has been increasingly sluggish under JB compared to ICS, regardless of how many cold boots and complete resets are performed. In addition, I get frequent white screen crashes and complete reboots that happen under heavy use.
So, with that said, here are my questions from those of you with some experience:
1. Should we expect an update from the manufacturer that will address all of this within a short (month?) period of time?
2. Since it's official that CM will provide an "official" port to the TF700, how long does it usually take them to provide a fairly feature rich one (GPS, Microphone, etc support unlike the unofficial port in the development forums)?
3. If both #1 & #2 are >1 month, can you recommend a solution that provides all tablet features? The other JB builds I saw do not provide full features from what I could see, correct?
Thank you for any answers you can provide.
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1. ASUS are not quick. Given past performance I don't think there is a chance of seeing an update that will successfully deal with the sluggishness issues.
2. I don't think it will be too long until the first official CM10 builds are released (days/weeks rather than weeks/months). Looking at where they are in development at present I expect the initial releases to be pretty complete. However, until they are released and tested you never know what problems and bugs may be encountered.
3. Your best bet at the moment is CleanROM - its the stock rom with all the bloat removed and some other tweaks to improve performance. Having tried the stock JB release and CleanROM I will say that the performance of CleanROM is way better.
Reboots, white screens and freezes are not normal for this or any tablet.
Firmwares and roms won't fix this. Send it back and get one that functions properly.
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Reboots, white screens and freezes are not normal for this or any tablet.
Firmwares and roms won't fix this. Send it back and get one that functions properly.
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actually, reboots and freezes are quite normal. There have been several posts about it since this device launched. I was a victim of this as well. Made me want to get rid of it. but after rooting and installing cleanrom, i have not had any issues.
Yes, the rom gets rid of the bloat, but with the new update, you have the option of keeping the bloat that you may want. I highly recommend rooting and installing this rom. It will feel like you purchased a new device.
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actually, reboots and freezes are quite normal. There have been several posts about it since this device launched. I was a victim of this as well. Made me want to get rid of it. but after rooting and installing cleanrom, i have not had any issues.
Yes, the rom gets rid of the bloat, but with the new update, you have the option of keeping the bloat that you may want. I highly recommend rooting and installing this rom. It will feel like you purchased a new device.
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Your experience is just one data point and all the other posts combined here are just an incredibly small subset of the entire install base, so, no, just because you experienced it does not make it "normal". IMHO, regular reboots and freezes are NOT normal in a properly functioning TF running compatible software (some android apps do suck and/or are not compatible with new OS versions).
So, in spite of your experience, I personally would NEVER recommend doing something that will permanently void the warranty and completely eliminate the possibility of returning it if the root cause is a hardware problem. Instead, I'd return it, if the new one does it too switch brands.
I'm glad for your happiness with the updated ROM but an unlock on an in warranty tablet that is behaving badly is fundamentally bad advice, IMHO.
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Your experience is just one data point and all the other posts combined here are just an incredibly small subset of the entire install base, so, no, just because you experienced it does not make it "normal". IMHO, regular reboots and freezes are NOT normal in a properly functioning TF running compatible software (some android apps do suck and/or are not compatible with new OS versions).
So, in spite of your experience, I personally would NEVER recommend doing something that will permanently void the warranty and completely eliminate the possibility of returning it if the root cause is a hardware problem. Instead, I'd return it, if the new one does it too switch brands.
I'm glad for your happiness with the updated ROM but an unlock on an in warranty tablet that is behaving badly is fundamentally bad advice, IMHO.
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well xda is not the only website where people talk about electronics. I have seen a great number of complaints about this device. And i agree, there could be a very large number of people out there who are happy with their devices and don't have these issues. But it still remains, there are issues.
I can suggest/recommend people to root/unlock their devices, whether they do it or not, thats totally up to them. Before doing so, they should know the risk involved.
I'll be completely honest on how I feel about the TF700. Before the JB update, the tablet was slow. After the JB update, the tablet was still slow! I love the concept behind the TF700, and it's a beautiful tablet. But, it really does just suck because of its I/O.
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I'll be completely honest on how I feel about the TF700. Before the JB update, the tablet was slow. After the JB update, the tablet was still slow! I love the concept behind the TF700, and it's a beautiful tablet. But, it really does just suck because of its I/O.
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I really must just be lucky because I honestly have not experienced any of the lag or crashes that other people report. Yeah, transfer speed over USB is unusually slow, but it's still better than what USB 1.1 was
Honestly, from all that I've read, this tab is hit or miss. You will either have an absolute dream machine or you will have a nightmare. If you are #1, congrats and have fun with this beast. If you are #2 and it's too late to return it, try out all the roms and see which you like best. Even though the custom roms are fun on this tablet, I return time after time to just plain ol' rooted de-odexed stock and remove the bloat myself. This has consistently given me the best overall results
It sounds closed minded, but I don't think it's hit or miss. The I/O issue has run in the Transformer line up from the beginning. I was foolish to believe they would get it under control by the TF700. I love the tablet, I do, but its I/O is undeniably terrible. There's times when it runs flawless for me. But there other times where I can't even stand to use it. I haven't had a single freeze or reboot on JB, Just times of slow performance. If this thing had a better I/O, it would be the best damn tablet ever.
I'm really scared for the Vivo tab, it might have an I/O issue too. God forbid you have an I/O issue with Windows....
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Not only is the i/o bad (usually code for slow random read/write), but the sequential read is also horrendous. It takes forever for this tablet to load.
The solution would be more ram or to mount the device on an external microsd with better performance.
That being said the infinitys all weve got for fhd tablets until the bew samsung nexus fhd tablet cominf out next year (which will probably be gimped because google wont allow external storage on nexus devices).
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I never had any problems with my tablet on a stock firmware (latest JB). What annoyed me very much is the slugish performance.
Navigation between screens and applications is annoying. I often use google reader and adobe acrobat to read PDFs, and they were so bad.
I do also have samsung galaxy s3 which flies comparing to TF700. My gf has ipad3 which is uber fast too.
So, I've decided to try out CleanRom and so far it's good. It's definitely faster and more smooth.
I have my tablet now 3 weeks. After byuing it I was 4 days on ICS and then got the update to JB.
The speed difference is immense and I have no sluggishness at all.
Only thing I have is that 1 time it wouldn't come out of deep sleep (had to reboot) and had 1 spontaneous reboot since then.
Froze many bloat apps and that gave the tablet some air to breathe RAM wise.
But stock browser is very fast and last week I could compare it to an Ipad3 and speed is quite the same. It depends more on the Wifi speed available.
Opening apps is instantly and fast so no complaints here.
Strange that the experience of some users is totally different.
But let's say there are now 1 million Infinity's sold, a very minority have probs because (proven) people who have complaints will look for it on the internet and will start complaining there also.
But who has no probs will not come here, for sure the majority of users.
So do not magnify the probs more than needed and do not generalize them.
But for sure complain to ASUS asking for a solution depending of the prob by either replacing the defective unit or come quickly with an software update.
Just my 2c

[Q] Any known problems with AT&T Galaxy Exhilarate SGH-I577?

I am thinking about buying one from AT&T. I did a bunch of searching on the web and xda but couldn't find much about problems with this phone. Is this phone really that good, or am I just not searching enough?
Even if they are fixable problems, it is nice to know up front.
bradxray said:
I am thinking about buying one from AT&T. I did a bunch of searching on the web and xda but couldn't find much about problems with this phone. Is this phone really that good, or am I just not searching enough?
Even if they are fixable problems, it is nice to know up front.
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Are you planning to stick with stock firmware or root&flash something else?
With stock firmware, as far as I could gather, these are the main issues people had:
Internal SD too small for installing large amout of apps and especially games
For some people there is an echo when using the speakerphone
A whole lot of annoying AT&T bloatware, but that would be with every phone you get from them
But I havn't really ran it(stock) for more than an hour. I flashed CM10 unofficial port by ktempleton almost immidiately(these are nightlies, there is also CM9 Stable port that I havn't tried myself). As far as I know these are the only issues with that ROM:
Occational silent calls(the call connects but no one heares anything on either side)
A bug with the phone display rotation, that comes and goes as nightlies progress
More severe echo issue than stock has been reported
Music playback from external SD could get choppy. Could be due to low-quality microSD card as not all people expirience that(I do). This has also been reported with stock ICS but strangely not with stock GB.
Overall I could say I'm pleased with the phone, only major issue for me is the occational silent call issue that could catch you in an inconvinient situation. It might not exist with CM9 stable, but I have not yet checked myself. You should not have that issue with stock as far as I know.
EDIT: don't know how I forgot to mention this, battery life is not great. Would last you a full day only if you turn off LTE&NFC. otherwise might leave you hanging(obviously this depends on many elements, such as how often and for what you use the device for. You could run it on 2G and probebly use it for two days straight). Coming from Nokia this was somewhat of a shock for me at first but got used to it eventually.

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