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X10 or Desire :|

I'm sure this has been done to death, but I'm so torn between the 2
I need the phone for web browsing, taking pictures, watching videos off the SD card, instant messaging, occasionaly editing document files plus texting&calling.
Screen
Xperia has a 4inch TFT 16M ready display, but is limited by 1.6. The Desire has a 3.7inch AMOLED screen with 16M colours.
I think that I prefer the X10's screen with it's slightly higher resolution and bigger screen (and it's more usable outside from what I have been reading). Lack of multi-touch makes little difference to me.
Camera
X10 has a 8mp camera with an LED flash and records WVGA at 30fps. The Desire has a 5mp camera also with an LED flash, records WVGA at 15fps and is rumored to haave a 720p capture update along the way.
X10's camera is better for my needs. I take more pictures anyway and according to gsmarena, the image quality is quite good
Call Quality
Good on both from what I can tell.
Tie
Handset
Well not much to write here.
I handled the X10 at a 3 store and the Desire at a Telstra store and was a more pleased with the X10. It really is a stunning phone!
Software
The Desire runs sense on Andriod 2.1 while the X10 uses time/media scape on Andriod 1.6. This is where things get complicated for me. From what I can tell (again, just by reading forums), Mediascape is better for multimedia (very important for me). However, the X10 interface seems laggy and no where near as responsive as the Desire. Is this due to to 1.6? Apparently 2.1 supports hardware acceleration which is why it's smoother. Is this correct?
Desire wins for it's smoother interface. However, if 2.1 fixes the lag in the X10, then X10 wins for me.
Hardware
They both use the same CPU, but the Desire has 1.5x more RAM than the X10
Desire easily. However, I don't multitask much, so if that's all that RAM is used for (i.e. it's not causing the slowdown in the UI), then I'm fine with the X10
You have probably guessed by now that I really want the X10. However, I only buy a phone once every 2 years (buying it on contract). So at the end of the day, I want the most future proof phone. Also, the X10's interface is not as smooth as the Desire.
Which one would you recommend for me?
Thanks!
(Also, is there a way to get landscape QWERTY on the X10?)

Herr Noobien said:
I'm sure this has been done to death, but I'm so torn between the 2
I need the phone for web browsing, taking pictures, watching videos off the SD card, instant messaging, occasionaly editing document files plus texting&calling.
Screen
Xperia has a 4inch TFT 16M ready display, but is limited by 1.6. The Desire has a 3.7inch AMOLED screen with 16M colours.
I think that I prefer the X10's screen with it's slightly higher resolution and bigger screen (and it's more usable outside from what I have been reading). Lack of multi-touch makes little difference to me.
Camera
X10 has a 8mp camera with an LED flash and records WVGA at 30fps. The Desire has a 5mp camera also with an LED flash, records WVGA at 15fps and is rumored to haave a 720p capture update along the way.
X10's camera is better for my needs. I take more pictures anyway and according to gsmarena, the image quality is quite good
Call Quality
Good on both from what I can tell.
Tie
Handset
Well not much to write here.
I handled the X10 at a 3 store and the Desire at a Telstra store and was a more pleased with the X10. It really is a stunning phone!
Software
The Desire runs sense on Andriod 2.1 while the X10 uses time/media scape on Andriod 1.6. This is where things get complicated for me. From what I can tell (again, just by reading forums), Mediascape is better for multimedia (very important for me). However, the X10 interface seems laggy and no where near as responsive as the Desire. Is this due to to 1.6? Apparently 2.1 supports hardware acceleration which is why it's smoother. Is this correct?
Desire wins for it's smoother interface. However, if 2.1 fixes the lag in the X10, then X10 wins for me.
Hardware
They both use the same CPU, but the Desire has 1.5x more RAM than the X10
Desire easily. However, I don't multitask much, so if that's all that RAM is used for (i.e. it's not causing the slowdown in the UI), then I'm fine with the X10
You have probably guessed by now that I really want the X10. However, I only buy a phone once every 2 years (buying it on contract). So at the end of the day, I want the most future proof phone. Also, the X10's interface is not as smooth as the Desire.
Which one would you recommend for me?
Thanks!
(Also, is there a way to get landscape QWERTY on the X10?)
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Firstly, there is no such thing as futureproofing in the cellphone business, period.
It seems that you've got your mind dead-set on getting the X10 already. You've even started justifying and rationalizing the weaknesses of the X10 relative to the Desire.
If you like the phone, get it and live with it for the next 2 years. Don't overthink it, life is way too short to be worried about something as minute in the bigger scheme of things as a cellphone.
Having said that, based on the flops that are both X1 and X2, you're making a mistake. Get the Desire.

PoisonWolf said:
Firstly, there is no such thing as futureproofing in the cellphone business, period.
It seems that you've got your mind dead-set on getting the X10 already. You've even started justifying and rationalizing the weaknesses of the X10 relative to the Desire.
If you like the phone, get it and live with it for the next 2 years. Don't overthink it, life is way too short to be worried about something as minute in the bigger scheme of things as a cellphone.
Having said that, based on the flops that are both X1 and X2, you're making a mistake. Get the Desire.
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Thank you for your response. Unfortunately I'm just a broke uni student, so getting a phone this expensive is a big deal for me. I just don't want to make the wrong choice.
Yes, I do like the X10, but I'm not sure if the better looks and camera justify the weaker hardware (and the older OS). As for the futureproofing thing, I fully understand that no phone is futureproof. I want a phone that is as future proof as possible

Herr Noobien said:
Thank you for your response. Unfortunately I'm just a broke uni student, so getting a phone this expensive is a big deal for me. I just don't want to make the wrong choice.
Yes, I do like the X10, but I'm not sure if the better looks and camera justify the weaker hardware (and the older OS). As for the futureproofing thing, I fully understand that no phone is futureproof. I want a phone that is as future proof as possible
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You just answered your own question. Do you want a camera in a fancy plastic shell or do you want a normal looking phone with a powerful engine under the hood? =)

[Q] What is the best Windows Phone?

What do you think? Prices are unimportant.
It would be nice if you can tell us why

I think the best windows phone always depends on your personal needs. I choose a HTC 7 Pro, because I needed a device with a physical keyboard, as I'm often using the office app and the email functionality.
So I bought it directly when it came out and I'm still very pleased with my descision. As there was only the Dell Venue Pro with a keyboard on sale, I choose HTC, because I had allready several phones produced by them and I loved all of them. The only thing I miss is a microSD reader.

The 7 Pro would be the best if it has a larger screen and better landscape support :/

Wtf where is the LG quantum?

The Omnia7 is a great piece of HW for that price. I just also cant live without physical KB and got the HTC 7 Pro.
Why i decided the HTC over the Dell is that Dell is pretty bulky and also note that dells keyboard does not have directional keys. When i had the Omnia 7 it was a pita when trying to go back to some specific place in a text...
As for the not so good support of landscape in WP7 its not a problem. The places where I use the KB most landscape works... Like now writing this!

Also unlocked bootloaders is a thing that made me go towards HTC.

hardcoreplur said:
Wtf where is the LG quantum?
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Sorry, forgotten.
It isnt aviable in Europe, so...
Can any mod apply that phone to the poll?
Another problem of the Pro ia that it has only 8GB in the Europe version -.-

I love my HD7, but I love big screens. I use my phone 24/7, literally, it monitors my sleep lol... The battery isn't as good as some of the smaller screens, and HTC batteries suck, but you need to get a phone that suits your preferences.

HTC has problems with quality these past few years.. Not jst on wp7/wm6, bt android too..
I'll go for LG.. Easiest way to developer unlock via its mfg menu..
Sent from my LG Optimus 7

I don't actually own an Windows Phone, but I'll swap my LG 2X to a DVP. I think, that's the best Windows Phone, it has an 4.1" AMOLED Screen, a physical keyboard, it's cool looking...
But the Omnia 7 is really good too. Super AMOLED is quite better than AMOLED, and it has an metal body... thats nice

Hands down the dell venue pro. I own all of them but for battery life, functionality, quality, and pretty much everything that matters the dell venue pro. It was ergonomically designed in every sense to be form-fitted to the hand, the screen has a slight curvature unseen elsewhere, its the only windows phone without physical buttons that I dont accidentally hit the back button on, and lets face it, no other looks near as cool. The weight took some getting used to, its just slightly heavier than the hd7 but the weight is my only complaint.

The battery on the HD7 sucks, yes, but that's the least of its problems.
My main issue is that it's a terrible PHONE. The reception/signal strength is terrible.
If you're on WiFI a lot and want a bit screen, it's a great phone. WiFi will save some battey over a 3G connection given the quality of the radio in the phone.
If you want a phone that actually functions very well as a phone, I'd look into something else. Maybe the Focus. Samsung phones tend to have very good signal strength. At least my Vibrant does, but it may have a different radio /shrug. The HD2 had poor reception as well. The HD7 is basically it's fraternal twin brother.
Also, I'd try my best to get an unlocked/unbranded phone because Microsoft is making us do the carrier dance, Sadly.

HD7
Pros:
Large screen
Good call quality (Sounds nice & clear)
Good signal strength (I get 3G+ reception up in the mountains of Burbank, CA & Burbank refuses to allow cell provider to put up new towers)
Nice build quality, feels nice in the hand
Kick Stand for media viewing
Hackability (Same goes for all HTC's as we have R/HSPL)
Cons:
Battery
Poor speaker volume/quality
LCD is nice but nothing compared to Super AMOLED & SAMOLED+
Some complain about the hardware buttons, personally I like them
The capacitive buttons are too close to the LCD (prone to accidently hitting one while holding the device)

I owned the HTC HD7, the HTC Mozart, the LG Optimus 7 and the Omnia 7. So I think I can give a fair point of view.
In my opinion:
* the best is LG Optimus 7:
Pros:
16GB storage, nice battery life, DLNA, great augmented reality apps, speech to text, physical buttons (I hate capacitive buttons)
cons:
Ugly design, too much plastic, heavy weight, mediocre screen and camera, bad image of LG
* Followed by HTC Mozart:
Pros:
Very well balanced phone, HTC apps, aluminium body, 8MP camera, battery life is ok, speakers are of good quality.
cons:
8GB storage only, no HTC flashlight, no DLNA, screen a little bit small.
* Followed by Omnia 7:
Pros:
Wonderful elegant design, great S-Amoled screen
cons:
8GB storage only (at least in my country), very limited number of Samsung apps, no DLNA, a lot of annoying bugs that ruin the overall experience.
* In my opinion the HD7 is the worst.
Pros:
Screen size, kick stand, HTC apps, good call quality
cons:
Terrible screen resolution, horrible battery life, boring design, no DLNA, mediocre camera, mediocre 8GB storage only, terrible speakers (my God)...
I was surprised to discover that I really enjoy using the HTC Mozart and finally hated the HD7 (even if my previous phone was a HD2).
At first sight I fell in love with the Omnia 7 but was finally disappointing on a daily basis...

I have the Omnia 7 and all I can say is that it has terrible call quality and reception-issues.
Otherwise I love it.
By the looks of things there are no good WP7 phones available.
Lets hope Nokia can set things straight.

nizzon said:
By the looks of things there are no good WP7 phones available.
Lets hope Nokia can set things straight.
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This is true unfortunately...
Our WP7 devices are really underpowered, with poor storage.
MS shall really increase the minimum specifications now.

arturobandini said:
This is true unfortunately...
Our WP7 devices are really underpowered, with poor storage.
MS shall really increase the minimum specifications now.
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I think, only Android and Bada/WM6 really needs dual core, 1GB RAM and some more, because the software isn't really good adapted on the devices.
On WP7, it is.
So for WP7-devices is a 1 year old Snapdragon enough - because they all have the same and Microsoft can easily adapt their OS on the hardware, and everything is running smooth.
On Android, it looks like the devices are requiring an Tegra2 or Exynos to run as good as WP7-devices.
Waste of power, just my opinion. Or do you want to tell your friends, how many cores your phone got?
Lower hardware specs make the devices much cheaper, you can see it on the Omnia7. Only 199€ in Europe.
But with the storage-thing I agree with you. It is really annoying, to have to buy a new phone if the storage is full and you want to save more music and apps on it, otherwise you only need to buy a new SD card...
Enough OT now
Sent from my LG 2X using xda premium app. Sorry 4 bad English :/

arturobandini my omnia 7 has 16gb with 14.5gb available so that is not true
also i don't suffer from poor call quality, its crystal clear.
the only things i don't like about it
1. battery life could be better (its 50%) of how long my iphone 4 battery could last
2. not very ergonomic, don't understand the fascination of big phones that need 2 hands to compose a message

LGXX said:
I think, only Android and Bada/WM6 really needs dual core, 1GB RAM and some more, because the software isn't really good adapted on the devices.
On WP7, it is.
So for WP7-devices is a 1 year old Snapdragon enough - because they all have the same and Microsoft can easily adapt their OS on the hardware, and everything is running smooth.
On Android, it looks like the devices are requiring an Tegra2 or Exynos to run as good as WP7-devices.
Waste of power, just my opinion. Or do you want to tell your friends, how many cores your phone got?
Lower hardware specs make the devices much cheaper, you can see it on the Omnia7. Only 199€ in Europe.
But with the storage-thing I agree with you. It is really annoying, to have to buy a new phone if the storage is full and you want to save more music and apps on it, otherwise you only need to buy a new SD card...
Enough OT now
Sent from my LG 2X using xda premium app. Sorry 4 bad English :/
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I dont really care about dual core.
I want...
SAMOLED (or something equal in blacks)
Good reception and good call quality
at least 16gb storage
Good buildquality
Hardware homebutton
Is that too much to ask? It looks like it.

SicilianTony said:
arturobandini my omnia 7 has 16gb with 14.5gb available so that is not true
also i don't suffer from poor call quality, its crystal clear.
the only things i don't like about it
1. battery life could be better (its 50%) of how long my iphone 4 battery could last
2. not very ergonomic, don't understand the fascination of big phones that need 2 hands to compose a message
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Hello SicilianTony,
In my country the Omnia 7 is only available with 8GB unfortunately...
That's a shame.
Regarding call quality, I suppose I have been unlucky with my device in particular. Accrdingly I will modify my previous comment in order to give the most objective and fair review possible.

Sony Xperia Play Vs HtC Sensation

I own a Sony Xperia Play r800i I believed unlocked on T-mobile US and I also own a HTC Sensation 4G.
Now the Sensation of course has a slightly bigger screen at 4.3 inches and the screen is a bit darker being QHD vs the Play's LCD i believe.
But I am trying to decide which phone I should keep and which phone I should sell and i was playing with both phones at the same time and I noticed that my Sensation is sometimes right on spar speedwise and often times behind the Xperia Play.
Which is baffling b/c the Sensation is 1.2 GhZ dualcore vs the Play's 1GHZ single-core.
Example:
Launching both HTC Contacts & Sony Contacts, the Play always loads the same contact faster. Sense tends to have to "load" the contact for a second or two when the play automatically launches it.
I'm using Go launcher on both with the same theme and the rotate times on both phones is equal though at times the play tends to rotate faster and the app drawer opens faster.
But the Speed of the browser is what baffled me the most. Now the Sensation is 4G so i didn't use T-mobile network speed. I used my own wifi connection to test the browsers.
I went to 3 different sites with both phones at the same time and loaded the pages. Flash was enabled on both phones and the Play loaded faster. Granted the Sensation did start showing pictures and text first by the end of the load times, the play loaded faster.
So how is this possible that a 1GHZ phone can best a Dualcore phone? I wish I still had my Galaxy S2 to test it.
Have you tried your phone against Dual-core phones?
Personally i am a bit torn on which to keep.
The Play does work out of the box the way it should however the Cameras on the front and back are awful though the Sensation is only slightly better....
The Sensation is an attractive device with a slightly brighter and bigger screen but at the same time it can be slow and the call quality is not great at all tbh.
It's OKAY but eh.
I wish I could root them both to see which is better but no clue where to begin.
Have you tried your phone against Single core phones? Notice any differences?

Well on stock our Sennys do have dual cores but the phone does not utilize the second one until it's needed. It reduces the strain and battery usage. It's been stated in many different threads.

kpjimmy said:
Well on stock our Sennys do have dual cores but the phone does not utilize the second one until it's needed. It reduces the strain and battery usage. It's been stated in many different threads.
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Well given that I just got this phone and I only started frequenting this forum just last week or so, I didn't know that
SO to make sure I understand, essentially both my play and Sensation are only using 1 core until the Sensation actually needs to use the second One? If that is true, then would it have to "need" to use the second core.

If the day to day performance if the xperia play is only slightly behind (or maybe better?) than that of the sensation, then I say what the heck keep the xperia play.
I only say this because I'm a big fpse fan and the fpse experience on the xperia play is unmatched.
But that's just the opinion of a grown up gamer who is still trying not to let go.

rawrfische said:
If the day to day performance if the xperia play is only slightly behind (or maybe better?) than that of the sensation, then I say what the heck keep the xperia play.
I only say this because I'm a big fpse fan and the fpse experience on the xperia play is unmatched.
But that's just the opinion of a grown up gamer who is still trying not to let go.
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LOL i understand
The gamepad is unmatched really when it comes to gaming.
THe only thing really is the camera really of the play...it is utter crap.
Well, not crap really but i have seen much better 5 megapxiel camera and the Front Facing camera is even worse
Though the Sensation isn't the best either.
Such a tough decision and Idk what to lol

for gaming sensation will be absolutely better, a lot better!
consider that Sensation got a new cpu and games are to be optimized for it and for its dual core cpu, that use only 1 core if 2° not needed
For the pad, xperia own it, and there is no discussion, for gaming is better than touchscreen
But if you search for pure performance, Sensation is A LOT BETTER
Sensation btw, lacks on OPENGL driver, and sucks at that benchies.. But for sure it will be fixed by HTC soon, maybe with official ICS

decision HTC One S or Sony Xperia S

Hello Dear One s Community ^_^
finally im able to upgrade my phone from a HTC Desire to something better... But i can´t decide what to get : HTC 1 S or the Sony Xperia S
i need a phone with good cam so:
first of all the software is not important for me i will run MIUI on it so HTC Sense is not important for me
pro Xperia S:
-dedicated camera button
- RGB Led
-Design
-720p Display
-highest dpi
-Normal LCD+Bravia Engine
-Hdmi output
-USB OTG
-32 GB Storage
negative Points:
- much thicker then the One S
-"only" a S3 processor
- smaller community
- cam software not that good
now the One S:
PRO
- Newest S4 processor
- better cam software (sense based miui roms)
- much thinner then the Xperia S
- its from HTC ( i never had ANY problem with my Desire and the Desire is still an awesome phone with the greatest community on the block after 2 years!)
Negativ
- LED Only 2 colours
- Pentile Matrix ( not that good i heard... )
- lower resolution
- only 16 gb storage ...
- i read that the one s has some build issues that the case has some problems
- no USB Otg
- no HDMI (yes with an adapter but then you can´t plugin a keyboard or something like on xperia s only with bluetooth @ one s... )
i really don´t know what phone to get ...
no fanboy comments pls
best regarts Melly

My friend got xperia, I got HTC One S.
What can I say about this:
1. HTC One S is much much more thinner, and design is better
2. Xperia got 32gb memory (I kinda dont care)
3. One S got 25gb dropbox
4. Xperia got better camera and also a button for camera (I would like one on S).
5. S can make photos of video easly, also I think it makes a photo much faster
6. Xperia dont have android 4 officialy
7. I like sens on One S
8. I didnt see much difference between the displays...
9. One S battery lasts longer. Xperias bravia engine takes its part in it.

I came from the HTC Desire to the HTC One S and i am loving it. For me i checked out the Sony Xperia S in stores but not the One S since its not availible in my country atm.
I found the screen on the Xperia S to be amazing, the pixel density is unrivalled however other than the screen the Xperia S didnt have much going for it that i required. Its a bulky phone that ran gingerbread at the time and the user experience was a bit on the laggier side. I havent been keeping up so i dont know if it has ICS yet and if it fixes those issues. The experience on the One S has been great and coming from a HTC Desire its a massive upgrade in all departments.
Main reason i chose the HTC One S was because of the size, build quality and S4 chip. The S4 chip is amazingly fast and effiecient, runs much cooler than my desire for games and i suspect it runs much cooler and more efficiently than the S3 chip found in the Xperia S. In terms of camera, both phones carry good cameras for a phone and the Xperia S seems to have better reviews but neither will replace you digital camera any time soon. I dont think you will notice much difference in quality unless u do careful analysis ;p.
To answer you question on build quality, the Micro Arc Oxidation version (Black) seems to have an unresolved chipping issue and it seems to be the luck of the draw if you get chipping or not. They grey version has none of those issues though. One thing to mention is that HTC are releasing this phone with the S3 1.7ghz chip now so better make sure with your seller before you buy it.
I think you will be happy with either phone but in my opinion if you loved the experience on the HTC Desire you'll certainly love the experience on the HTC One S.
Lastly i think with the new Jelly Bean announcement and Project Butter, when it eventually hits the HTC One S official or ported by devs coupled with the S4 chip, i believe Sense 4 will be absolutely beastly!

xperia s seems like another phone from sony that's too little too late. had they released it with a S4 cpu and ICS then it would would do okay in today's market against the offering from samsung and htc.

I think the One S is sooo fast!
Now i have the cm9 alpha 12 and its running very good!
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I own both Xperia S and One S(S4). I think there are quite a lots of misleading
things on the Internet, mainly from poor review bases.
1. The major advantage from XS is the 720P LCD, obviously clear than One S. You can notice it easily. However, it does come with complaint, little yellow tint or over warm color temp. I'm glad to get an excellent LCD with minor issues of both but you might not be the lucky one like me. I do rank them at the same score unless you could find Xperia S equipped with a problem-free screen but the chance isn't high, you have to be real lucky.
2. I believe all HTC ONE will has USB OTG support with custom kernels, just don't think we will see it soon.
3. The smaller community one sadly is One S. You can go to the XS board and spot the situation, there are more threads and more roms, more active users. XS is a worldwide available mobile while One S isn't(it's, now, but divided into S3/S4 lines and S3 just isn't selling any good, at least at here - Hong Kong. None of us going to buy the S3, there are only little shops who sells it too).
4. Pentile Matrix doesn't has any issue on a 4.3" QHD. I don't know how well it performs on a larger screen with higher resolution, it may has some problems there.
5. Both design well. XS is a sex lady while One S is a pretty young girl. It's just a matter of taste. Personally, I would like to know which kind you(OP) are? just kidding...
6. yup, I like the LED on XS. It's better. But I also like One S which is thinner and light weight.
7. S4 CPU is definitely fast and not as hot as XS. The major bonus to One S and this is my main reason to use it as a primary phone. Another problem is you can't charge the XS while the phone is on and the battery temp. goes over 40 degrees(One S still charges at 40+), which is very easy to get to this temp you know it's summer now. I've tried to use air-condition flow or a big cooling fan to cool the XS down, just wish it let me to charge without turn it off. You know it's a horrible experience.
8. Time to speak on the stock ROM side. HTC is overall better, faster and not as buggy as XS(Sony UI is really pretty and there are more custom roms on XS, I think they could solve the stock problems). The battery consumption on the XS rom is superior considered it is on a S3 cpu. Sony manged it very well on XS, did a good job. I've to say the stock One S rom is only a little bit better than XS, not very good performance on battery, almost a well-known here. I know you will switch to MIUI, I'm running LeeDroid V2.1 with SetCPU and got much better battery life.
9. Finally, the camera. They both do a good job on their own, I really can't tell you which is better. They work exactly in the opposite way, very confusing? huh?
In general, XS takes excellent photo at outdoor beat the One S easy, not as fast as but not much slower than One S. While at indoor or low light environment, One S blows the XS away with f/2.0, XS got more noise with slow focus. XS is great for outdoor and One S is great for indoor.
XS does a very accurate white balance all the time outdoor/indoor but One S has faster focus speed outdoor/indoor. The XS auto scenes mode and close up mode works better while One S gives you a 60 photo bursting mode(old rom supports up to 99).
Video part is the XS wins. The video is more stable and the quality is also improved in the official ICS. One S on the other hand, let you shoot 5M photo during recording and offers a funny slow motion video mode.
10. At last, I forget to tell you. The Xperia SL(Lt26ii) will roll out. No one know the details at right now but it might be a S4 cpu or LTE supported device.
Thank you to reading my long reply and not fall asleep.

Just some quick updates to my last reply ....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1629134&highlight=usb+host
It's my fault. One S already supported USB-OTG now. It is just quite trouble because it doesn't provide power. We still need a kernel mod like on One X to make USB-OTG supports better.
And second, it's confirmed Xperia SL remains as a S3 unit. I guess no S4 and LTE, just some minor upgrade like [email protected]

sold my experia and got a one s.. if that tells u something. Got damn small buttons on the xperia got me crazy

[Q]one last desicion to make, and i want yours first ; Xe vs Xperia S

hi,
i know some of you wont bother looking at this "another comparison" thread and most of you will think "this is Sensation forum, what do you expect us to say" but i have opened the same thread to the sensation Q&A section too..
so my last phones were; HTC sensation XE and One X..
and my criterias are, in the using time order;
1) most of the time i ll be listening music,
2) checking my e-mail.
3) using GPS (i travel a lot and alos live on of the most cunfusing citys in the world)
4) web browsing
5) camera using for the places i travel
6) games when i sm not traveling with my car ..
7) messing with the phone, trying to OC (sometimes to get better everyday experience but to be honest most of the time just to feel the power for ego satisfaction and its not like buying the most powerful phone, its more like watching and making the phone grow stronger in your hands)
the 7 is very little time, ones the occupation occurs i am not playing with my phone anymore, i want it to remain as a good assistant and a journey-mate for me.
according to my needings i crossed out SG Note from the list due to its eMMC bug and screen burn problems.. a phone which is famous with its screen should not suffer from screen problems. and also crossed out nexus for not having FM radio and limited storage option (only 16 in my country), and i also crossed the SGS3 and the HTC One X for one being so ugly and having screen burns, and the other for having lots of problems to get over.. i have waited enough android to get mature and i wasnt willing to wait for a phone to do the same and catch up with its software on the quality side, not in 2012..
so let me get to the quick advantages and disadvantages comparison, this is where i want your help about what i list under and add your opinions..
This is %100 my opinions and please change them and advise me if you think any (or all) of them are wrong
Sensaiton XE over Xperia s
- expendable storage option
- good headphones comes with it
- since its the cuisin of the sensation, it has very big development out there and with the way we can S-off and S-on there is no risk of losing the warranty
- since adreno is not designed for fill rate like mali-400 but its good for effects and balancing the load it gives superp performance on the games with a qHD screen
- and the GPU is also OCable when i feel like the performance is not enough (it was alwasy enough, to be honest but still... you know)
- about the development, i am not talking about having lots of kernels and roms out. i have only used CM9 and ARHD so far. what i am talking about is having s-off and not losing the warranty, and having camera mods to have 1080p videos at 30 FPS/40Mbps and photos like 5 MB, and having bravia engine with ARHD etc..
Xperia S over XE
- XEs screen is almost unusable under sunlight and gets dust collected under, but sony has a perfect screen there is no doubt to that.. (but i am afraid of yellow spots, some people says its coused by heat and the S3 Soc is heating on average usage
- GLONASS GPS support. i never used it so dont know about the real life performance but it must be a good thing to have 2 different satelite type instead of one?
- 12 mp camera is better on the stock comparison but i dont know if it can race with the modded sensation camera
- the UI seems smoother overall and litgher then the sense but still i wonder; how is adrenoa 220 doing with that 720p screen? and will there be OC chance in the future?
- 1 Gb of RAM is sure going to be better than the 768MB one especially when it comes to the multitasking
so to sum up, my main concerns are about the camera and the GPU and the screen when it came to the Xperia S even though it is the newer one.. i feel like "ok sensations screen is not good but it will always be that bad in the future too but what happens if my sony's screen loses its quality everyday just because of regular heating of the device? i have given up from all amoled screens because of that thought.
and the camera, since the memory is constant i can understand sony wanting to reduce the image and size but i want less compressed video and photos, especially at night
and the GPU.. will i feel like i need stop one day admit that my device is not enough for playing the newest games just beause it can not handle the georgeus screen in a year? this really scares me. with the development support of sensation it gets 52-53 FPS on the nenamark 2 without OC with the last drivers but the sony is stock in only 37 (i know it will do every game unless it gets under galaxy nexus since it is the referance device for now but still...)
thanks to everyone who is bothered to read this.. and thank you for help..

so, you already have a Sensation XE and wanting to get an Xperia S? or looking into getting one or the other? Will you be purchasing the phone with an upgrade or straight up?
the external speaker isnt all that great on the Sensation, so if youre listening to music I hope its through some headphones or Bluetooth! E-mail, GPS, and web browsing are great also. I pretty much use my phone for everything, just as you are looking for. The camera, with the mod, is just amazing. Sometimes a bigger MP camera doesnt mean its better Ive never had a problem with running low on RAM so I think the 768MB is sufficient. The only thing I dont do really is game on my phone. I mean c'mon...with a PC and Xbox why game on cell phones?! lol But I can see if youre always on the go and hardly stationary that mobile games will come in handy. From what I have experienced, games run butter smooth once you OC the phone a bit. Oh and btw, youll love the dev community for the Sensation!
I havent messed around with any Xperias so this is experience only from the Sensation

thank you for quick answer. i had sensation xe and sold it. now i am looking for buying a noew phone and it will either be a sensation xe again or xperia s.
about the games; i play my games on PC and think gaming on PCs or consoles is professional hobbie but playing a game on a cell phone is just a good way to spend time but here in Istanbul i need to find many ways to spend my time because of the traffic and i travel between cities a lot.
sony is fooling me with its screen and the RAM.. on HTC the blacks are grey-ish a lot (not like a LCD-AMOLED comparison but still sony's blacks are better even though it does not have the auto brightness settings) and there is this dust under screen problem .. and i saw many times that my sensation XE had to reload the sense UI after i quit a game.

Haven't tried the Xperia S, but being a Sensation user I can say that it's camera is really good. I could get good pics in low lights too

_delice_doluca_ said:
hi,
Xperia S over XE
- XEs screen is almost unusable under sunlight and gets dust collected under, but sony has a perfect screen there is no doubt to that.. (but i am afraid of yellow spots, some people says its coused by heat and the S3 Soc is heating on average usage
- GLONASS GPS support. i never used it so dont know about the real life performance but it must be a good thing to have 2 different satelite type instead of one?
- 12 mp camera is better on the stock comparison but i dont know if it can race with the modded sensation camera
- the UI seems smoother overall and litgher then the sense but still i wonder; how is adrenoa 220 doing with that 720p screen? and will there be OC chance in the future?
- 1 Gb of RAM is sure going to be better than the 768MB one especially when it comes to the multitasking.
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Please note the following:
a) Screen of the sensation has similar performance on direct light than the Xperia. I have no problem at all. Dust under screen was a problem on the first units, but my unit has no problem at all.
b) Glonass support is not really a plus. As per the info available both GPS systems are similar, the standard GPS has better accuracy.
c) agree, Sony has always very good cameras.
d) If you don't like Sense there is no sense to buy an HTC device.
e) agree
On favor of the Xperia, it has a HD720p screen.
On contrary of the Xperia, I never liked the Sony Android UI. it feels cheap.
At the end is just a question of price and taste.