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I think I have a defective thunderbolt battery, sometimes when I pull my phone off the charger it drops to 95%. Funny thing this is not a everyday thing. Anybody having a similar problem like this? Sorry if this been discuss before. Have a bless day everybody...on my way to the office.
I have the same thing happen. There is something goofy with how the meter reports battery level. If you reboot your phone it drops even more.
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Yea I notice that too. I seen my battery drop down 15 percent after rebooting. Is the battery defective? Or the phone is defective?
Bump charge it. Charge it all the way. Unplug, turn it off, then on, and keep charging.
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The phone/battery aren't defective. I have the extended battery so I never bump charge it, but he is right. Charge it up until your charging light goes green, unplug it and then turn it off. Once it shuts down, plug it back in and will now be orange. Charge it until it's green again. Sometimes it will take a few minutes, sometimes an hour. I'm also color blind so I can never tell whether that damned light is red/orange/green. >.<
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The phone/battery aren't defective. I have the extended battery so I never bump charge it, but he is right. Charge it up until your charging light goes green, unplug it and then turn it off. Once it shuts down, plug it back in and will now be orange. Charge it until it's green again. Sometimes it will take a few minutes, sometimes an hour. I'm also color blind so I can never tell whether that damned light is red/orange/green. >.<
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He gonna have to turn it on then plug the charger in. If left off then plugged in the phone will boot into recovery.
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charge ur batt. to 100%, then go into cwm and clear batt. stats, when u turn it back on it should b around 80-85% then charge all the way back full again and then u will b at full capacity
obriennathaniel said:
charge ur batt. to 100%, then go into cwm and clear batt. stats, when u turn it back on it should b around 80-85% then charge all the way back full again and then u will b at full capacity
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is this all the time we have to do, I have the extended battery and it doesnt drop and I read about clearing the batterystats.bin but is this something we always have to do when we charge the phone? when I use the standard stock battery it drops with no problem
I didn't have any issues until I wiped the battery stats and now, my battery is constantly inconsistent. I would not recommend doing it as it has nothing but a pain in my arse since.
Have tried "bumping it" which essentially means to charge it to 100%, restart it, then charge it back again from whatever it dropped to.. Mine initially was around 85ish.. After a few "bumps" it crept up to 90 or 91 and then wouldn't go any higher. I charged it back to 100% and decided to follow the advice from another article which said to let it deplete to 0%.. In doing that, surprisingly it "froze" in a couple of places, I don't recall the 1st % but the 2nd % was definitely at the 28% mark. It literally sat there for a good 2+ hours with screen on max and didn't go down. Eventually it went down to 1% and I charged it back to 100%.
Issues still remain, wondering if I should've let it completely die out and force itself off?
Lesson: DO NOT MESS WITH BATTERY STATS with CW.
obriennathaniel said:
charge ur batt. to 100%, then go into cwm and clear batt. stats, when u turn it back on it should b around 80-85% then charge all the way back full again and then u will b at full capacity
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Where do I get into CWM, to do this?
Thanks for your help everybody! I'm sorry if this is a dumb question...what is CWM? My device is stock.
CWM = Clockwork Mod.. Goto Market, download ROM manager, then you can flash CWM. Not sure if that'll do you any good if you're not rooted though.
why when I reboot my phone like 15% of the battery life drops I love this damn phone man...i cant put it down while im at work
The battery reading after reboot is wierd.
Yesterday I was at 51% and draining are at a pretty steady rate like normal. After rebooting, it showed 41% but then it say at 41% for AWHILE.. after like an hour, it read 40% and started discharging at the normal rate.
Your battery gauge is lying to you (and it's not such a bad thing)
Good Read
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Your battery gauge is lying to you (and it's not such a bad thing)
Good Read
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Thanks for the repost, I had skimmed this thread earlier but don't recall it being so detailed. Seems like the moral of the story is that while "bump charging" works, it's not really recommended as it can reduce the overall life of the battery. Wonderful, now I regret ever messing with the battery stats at all, although I can't say for sure I didn't have this issue prior to doing so.
My OEM battery wouldn't hold a charge even after charging it all day... I took it to the VZ store and they replaced it for free...... I also just bought the larger 2750 mAh battery.... works great!
Hey guys, I have a problem with my Sensation. Whenever I fully charge it and then remove it from the charger, use it for like an hour or two, the phone still thinks the battery is 100% charged. When looking inside the battery usage, it shows the graph with 0s underneath it, while in the previous screen where you see the apps battery usage it says 2h 5m 13s or something like that.
This wouldn't really be a problem, but when I started up Maps Navigation and plugged the charger in the car, it wouldn't charge because it still assumed the battery was 100% charged!
Any of you also having this problem? Thanks in advance!
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Hey guys, I have a problem with my Sensation. Whenever I fully charge it and then remove it from the charger, use it for like an hour or two, the phone still thinks the battery is 100% charged. When looking inside the battery usage, it shows the graph with 0s underneath it, while in the previous screen where you see the apps battery usage it says 2h 5m 13s or something like that.
This wouldn't really be a problem, but when I started up Maps Navigation and plugged the charger in the car, it wouldn't charge because it still assumed the battery was 100% charged!
Any of you also having this problem? Thanks in advance!
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Does it stay 100% forever? Then you may have the inexhaustible battery... (not sure if this is grammaticaly correct )
I wouldn't consider this a problem. You can download a battery monitoring app from the market and see what's going on with your phone and if the 100% that it's rerporting is correct. Also, check that the battery contacts are clean.
Not sure my phone does that but it can be on half charge then when I reset phone it's gone up a notch. This morning it didn't look like it had charged although it had been plugged in. When I switched it was on orange then it did the charging animation for a few seconds without charger plugged in then stopped on full. Odd.
Mine stays on 100% for a couple of hours too, has done since I got it.
I think perhaps HTC are "cheating" (or using "creative coding", whichever expression you prefer) in the way they report the battery percentage. Make the battery appear better than it is. Just a theory, of course.
This morning it didn't look likeit had charged although it had been plugged in. When I switched it was on orange then it did the charging animation for a few seconds without charger plugged in then stopped on full. Odd
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That happens to me a lot too. Woke up this morning, phone had been charging for nearly 5 hours, but was only on 82%. After a couple of minutes of the screen being on, it had leapt to 100% and stopped charging.
Also, once the battery is below about 20%, it will sometimes drop 2-3% at a time. Odd.
Looks like they totally screwed the battery meter hardware or something in the software. Remembers me of my iPod touch
Experienced the say.. hopefully either it will auto be fine due to charge cycle or via updates
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The Battery driver that LG used for the G2X has the same problem,a simple reboot fixes it,hope this helps "temporarily" that is.Cheers
Not just the sensation - my wildfire does the same yet my galaxy tab doesnt
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sjgore said:
Mine stays on 100% for a couple of hours too, has done since I got it.
I think perhaps HTC are "cheating" (or using "creative coding", whichever expression you prefer) in the way they report the battery percentage. Make the battery appear better than it is. Just a theory, of course..
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Thanks for your answer, so it's probably a general problem that may be fixed by either HTC or the Cooks that make ROM's for our beautiful new phones
Can you tell me how long it takes for your phone to fully charge?My phone needs 3-4 hours to fully charge..is this normal?!
Hmm mine doesn`t lag but it takes times to charge. Usually with my hd2 take around less than 2 hours to fully charge now with sensation around 3 hours
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Using it almost half an hour,battery felt from 100% to 99%...And I checked the battery useage,it isn't wrong..
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Although it is dual core,I think the battery life is much better than DHD..
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I received my phone yesterday and charged it for 4-5 hours throughout the day. Last night it was close to 100% while I was playing with it (off the charger). I then charged it over night for 9 hours. This morning the battery says it's at 50% but has 15 hours left.
Weird :\
Charge the battery with the power turned off overnight, in the morning unplug the charger, turn the phone on, and shutdown again, and plug the charger back for 30
mins phone still turned off. After that start using the phone normally, this way you calibrate the phones battery meter properly.
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Charge the battery with the power turned off overnight, in the morning unplug the charger, turn the phone on, and shutdown again, and plug the charger back for 30
mins phone still turned off. After that start using the phone normally, this way you calibrate the phones battery meter properly.
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Thanks mate! I'll do that tonight
Is it possible to overcharge the battery? I ask because when I first got the phone and fully charged it, it would stay on 100% for at least a couple hours (using circle battery widget which reads in increments of 1%) but one night I fell asleep with it plugged into the charger and when I got up it still read 100% but as soon as I unplugged it it went immediately to 99%. I have not yet been able to get it to read 100% unless its connected to the charger. Think I could get the batt replaced under warranty since its only 2-3 weeks old?
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Your battery is fine, it is set up so that it will not overcharge. I tried searching for an article that explained how the system is set up but couldnt find it.
JRW 28 said:
Your battery is fine, it is set up so that it will not overcharge. I tried searching for an article that explained how the system is set up but couldnt find it.
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I'll look in to that. But what about the battery immediately dropping to 99% when I take it off the charger?
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Every android phone I've had has dropped like that as soon as I've taken it off charge, nothing to really worry about.
They do a think called power cycling. It will charge it to 100% then shut off then once it goes back down it will charge it to 100% again. Ill try to find the article. Your battery is fine.
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JRW 28 said:
Every android phone I've had has dropped like that as soon as I've taken it off charge, nothing to really worry about.
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Weird. My SE Xperia X10 didn't do that, it would stay at 100% for at least an hour. I recalibrated my battery a couple days ago, thinking it would remedy this "problem" and after it died on me I charged it back to 100% and took it off the charger at 10pm, set my alarm on it and let it sit overnight. After pressing snooze on my phone 3 times and finally getting up at 630am it still was at 100%! So it's strange to me that this drops to 99% immediately but if it's happening to everyone else I won't worry too much.
cuhrazy said:
They do a think called power cycling. It will charge it to 100% then shut off then once it goes back down it will charge it to 100% again. Ill try to find the article. Your battery is fine.
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I hope so
my A2 stays on 100 for at least an hour untill it moves but i am using battery guage and when it does move from 100 its down to 90 i only get 10 % increments
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my A2 stays on 100 for at least an hour untill it moves but i am using battery guage and when it does move from 100 its down to 90 i only get 10 % increments
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Well if I were to judge off that, mine stays at 100% for hours......im going on 7hrs right now. But I use battery circle widget which reads in 1% increments......as soon as my phone comes off the charger it goes straight to 99%......it didnt do that before.
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Battery Charging & calibration query
What difference does it make if you charge from empty to 100% in switched off stage and the same in on state? Which is better? How should we calibrate the battery and how often using which app for unrooted MB865 Asia retail? Also if phone dies (switches off) constantly due to insufficient charge does it harm the battery in terms of cells getting destroyed gradually & finally does switching off or switching on the phone while charging have any effect issue on phone or the battery?? Thanks in advance for inputs for all queries.
My 727 (AT&T) is rooted stock rom. The battery indicator gets 'stuck' a lot of the time. It happens in both a widget and the default battery indicator in the status line.. They will both show 100% and I know full well that they CAN'T be at 100% after sitting around all afternoon off the charger. I restart the phone and immediately it drops to 42% ...
Anybody else seen an issue like this?
A lot all over. Do a search
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what i suggest you do is calibrate the battery.
1 plug it in and charge it to 100%
2 turn off the phone and charge it until it says 100%
3 unplug and turn it on and leave it for 3min.
4 turn it off and plug it in and let it sit until it says 100% again
5 repeat step 3
6 unplug turn on the phone and use it until it hits 0% and turns off
7 plug in the phone and let it charge to 100%
now use as normal and after a few days your battery will read more accuratley and more importantly, will last longer. keep in mind your battery does lie to you but just use the phone and you'll start getting more out of it.
moving forward, charge whenever you can. Lithium ion batteries will last longer if they're charged often (like at 60%-40%).
designfears said:
what i suggest you do is calibrate the battery.
1 plug it in and charge it to 100%
2 turn off the phone and charge it until it says 100%
3 unplug and turn it on and leave it for 3min.
4 turn it off and plug it in and let it sit until it says 100% again
5 repeat step 3
6 unplug turn on the phone and use it until it hits 0% and turns off
7 plug in the phone and let it charge to 100%
now use as normal and after a few days your battery will read more accuratley and more importantly, will last longer. keep in mind your battery does lie to you but just use the phone and you'll start getting more out of it.
moving forward, charge whenever you can. Lithium ion batteries will last longer if they're charged often (like at 60%-40%).
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Yeah, I even downloaded the utility that removes the battery life file, and creates a new one. I guess I need to try one of these procedures again.. I honestly think it is more to do with a bad application, no matter what the battery life meter should not 'hang', and if it does for more than a few minutes, then it should be able to recover by forcing a restart of the app... *sigh*...
This is a common issue with this phone. Look up "battery stuck at 100%" in Google and you'll find quite a few results. Supposedly it's an issue with certain chargers not giving out proper levels so it trips out some indicator chips in the battery and/or phone.
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Just reboot your phone and use the stock charger and cable from now on.
I had this issue with the rooted kernel (can't remember which one) but after downloading "battery calibration" from the market and following the in-app instructions the problem was solved.
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yeah battery calibration app on market worked for me as well
Previously I had Huawei with 4.0.3 and in night time (wifi disabled, sync disabled, no apps active) battery dropped about 3 points, but with Moto it's about 10 points.
How much battery uses your Moto in night time?
ksuuk said:
Previously I had Huawei with 4.0.3 and in night time (wifi disabled, sync disabled, no apps active) battery dropped about 3 points, but with Moto it's about 10 points.
How much battery uses your Moto in night time?
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The one of mine used last night more or less the same, around 10% with wifi, no apps running, no data conection, etc. I'm a little bit worried about it, i think it's too much battery drop :/
ksuuk said:
Previously I had Huawei with 4.0.3 and in night time (wifi disabled, sync disabled, no apps active) battery dropped about 3 points, but with Moto it's about 10 points.
How much battery uses your Moto in night time?
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I just go airplane mode and I had a 1% drop over 10 hours overnight.
download BetterBatteryStats or Wakelock Detector and check what eats your battery
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I just go airplane mode and I had a 1% drop over 10 hours overnight.
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I'm using Profile Scheduler, but since 4.3 it can't activate aeroplane mode, without rooting and I always forget switch it manually.
I always turn off my data and WiFi and my phone only drops about 4 to 6 percent overnight
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well, my battery has dropped 10% inaproximately 5 hours beeing in airplane mode :/ can someone tell me why?
Ninm said:
well, my battery has dropped 10% inaproximately 5 hours beeing in airplane mode :/ can someone tell me why?
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yes, read my previous post.
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It may have been related to Mediaserver, read - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2570854
I need SkyPe so can't unistall it but I disabled AD -s in SkyPe settings, and see does it help.
Edit: I removed latest SkyPe and installed older version and Mediaserver doesn't eat battery anymore.
It seems to do just fine at nighttime for me.
Nearly 0% drain after a night with airplane mode.
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Tonight, in almos 6 hours my battery has dropped around 4% being in airplane mode. I have installed betterbatterystats and i cannot see anything strange
what used up the 4% that is not strange?
I unplugged my phone at around 3am because I rolled over and noticed the notification led blinking. I was at 100% and cleared the notification. Went back to sleep then got up around 5:30am and looked at my phone. I noticed my battery was down more than I expected so I checked the stats. I was down almost 20% in 2 hours 30 minutes. Android OS was at 60% usage with time on a 2 hours 20 minutes. I had sleep assist turned on during the night and I also keep wifi and data on. I've installed Wakelock Detector to see if it will be able to see what in Android OS is keeping my phone on.
Please take a look at
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2583419
Scott
fyi. when you charge your phone, the battery starts discharging once the battery is FULL, NOT when the cable is unplugged. However, the battery % will not drop whilst the phone is plugged in,
Therefore, if you charge your phone fully but don't unplug it for hours, it 'may' appear to discharge faster than normal once you do unplug it. (basically the phone will over present it's true charge level).
If you unplug the phone as soon as its fully charged, however, it will appear to discharge more slowly...
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fyi. when you charge your phone, the battery starts discharging once the battery is FULL, NOT when the cable is unplugged. However, the battery % will not drop whilst the phone is plugged in,
Therefore, if you charge your phone fully but don't unplug it for hours, it 'may' appear to discharge faster than normal once you do unplug it. (basically the phone will over present it's true charge level).
If you unplug the phone as soon as its fully charged, however, it will appear to discharge more slowly...
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Lol
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Lol
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think I must have missed the joke??, or are you wishing me 'Lots of Love' ?
you can test if for yourself if you don't believe me... It protects the battery..
it is very relevant for people who charge their phone over night. The Android battery stats will start the clock ticking from 9am when they unplug their phone, however the battery started discharging 6 hours erlier when he phone was fully charged at 3am... The % then drops much faster than expected as it races to it's 'true' level of charge. This could explain the differences people are seeing in some cases...
helppme said:
think I must have missed the joke??, or are you wishing me 'Lots of Love' ?
you can test if for yourself if you don't believe me... It protects the battery..
it is very relevant for people who charge their phone over night. The Android battery stats will start the clock ticking from 9am when they unplug their phone, however the battery started discharging 6 hours erlier when he phone was fully charged at 3am... The % then drops much faster than expected as it races to it's 'true' level of charge. This could explain the differences people are seeing in some cases...
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actually you are just partially right. the percentage only drops until reaching a trigger level, where it starts to charge again. also in my opinion when the phone is charged and left plugged in it uses the power directly and leaves the battery untouched
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helppme said:
think I must have missed the joke??, or are you wishing me 'Lots of Love' ?
you can test if for yourself if you don't believe me... It protects the battery..
it is very relevant for people who charge their phone over night. The Android battery stats will start the clock ticking from 9am when they unplug their phone, however the battery started discharging 6 hours erlier when he phone was fully charged at 3am... The % then drops much faster than expected as it races to it's 'true' level of charge. This could explain the differences people are seeing in some cases...
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Hogwash.
Lithium batteries don't retain a memory.. You can charge them as often as you want... No matter what percentage your at. And if you leave it plugged in it will keep your battery fully charged with a trickle charge at 100...
I'm not sure what wives tales you've been reading.... But not everything on the Internet is true.... So you know.
I read something else around here lately where a guy was saying basically if you plug in at bedtime, you better wake up after a couple hours and unplug.... Or you'll damage your battery. Lol
Anyway.... Charge how ever you feel you need to.... To each their own. But I guarantee your battery will not drain quicker cause you left it charging all night.... That's simply ridiculous.
No offence.
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kj2112 said:
Hogwash.
Lithium batteries don't retain a memory.. You can charge them as often as you want... No matter what percentage your at. And if you leave it plugged in it will keep your battery fully charged with a trickle charge at 100...
I'm not sure what wives tales you've been reading.... But not everything on the Internet is true.... So you know.
I read something else around here lately where a guy was saying basically if you plug in at bedtime, you better wake up after a couple hours and unplug.... Or you'll damage your battery. Lol
Anyway.... Charge how ever you feel you need to.... To each their own. But I guarantee your battery will not drain quicker cause you left it charging all night.... That's simply ridiculous.
No offence.
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its not hogwash, I think maybe you misunderstood me. I'm well aware lithium cells aren't memory cells. In fact, check my post history I posted as much in a thread of someone asking 'how best to first charge their moto G'. So if this is what you thought I meant, fairplay.
However,
Someone clarified above there is a 'threshold' level. however, these phones do not 'trickle charge' it's not a car battery. Charging at full amps when the battery is full would damage it, hence it stops charging, starts to discharge, then at some 'threshold level' will begin charging again, it does not trickle charge..
Also, as a matter of fact a friend of mine is an electrical engineer, does small Linux projects and some work on ARM architecture. I first heard about this behaviour when charging whilst on the XDA S2 forum. We tested the charge in the S2 1650mha battery ourselves and found we could get a variety of charge levels all shown as '100%' on the phone, just by when we unplugged the charger. I'm making an assumption this phone behaves the same, however why would it not?
So, all I would say to anyone on this forum. Just because someone has a lot of posts and thanks and 'knows his stuff' , This guy should take his own advice and not believe everything he reads on the internet...
No offence