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Has anyone noticed if bluetooth headphone buttons can control any other music players other than the HTC Player since the update?
I have tried several music apps (Mixzing, Meridian and a few others) that support a2dp control but my headphones will only control the default player. I have even removed the HTC music player completely from the phone (hoping that the button control would get reassigned to another app) but then the button just doesn't work at all.
The only clue I have comes from the "mixzing" player forum:
http://mixzing.freeforums.org/post92.html?hilit=bluetooth#p92
I got my headphones (Sony Erricson HBH-IS800) after the update was released so I don't know whether or not this is new behavior?
I'm just wondering if anyone else has any experience with this. I'm not a big fan of the default player and would like to get away from it.
I should add that I am using the "Unofficial" Modaco/Obelisk79 2.1c ROM and also the Optimization made by ruskiyab.
I'm curious too. My previous phone (Palm Pre) allowed whatever music app was playing to be controlled via BT. This included Pandora which was very convenient in the car.
atoy74 said:
I'm curious too. My previous phone (Palm Pre) allowed whatever music app was playing to be controlled via BT. This included Pandora which was very convenient in the car.
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I can't get it to work with any other media player including Pandora.
I think I may make a nandroid backup and then flash back to pre-update stock to see if there's any difference.
Don't bother. I checked that my first day with stock ROM. Functions exactly as the custom ROM's do.
atoy74 said:
Don't bother. I checked that my first day with stock ROM. Functions exactly as the custom ROM's do.
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Lol! Thanks for the warning. I was about to attempt it while sitting here at Jiffy Lube.
There's got to be a way to fix this. The guy who posted on the mixzing forum sounded like he was onto something with the button priority assignments for the different media players. I don't know how to change these and probably should not mess with it anyway.
Hey there,
I've been searching around for a [insert volume rocker overrider thing here]. I've tried rocking shortcuts from the market, but sadly it doesnt work with com.sonyericsson.music ¬¬ i really like this feature, is there anyway to enable it? Because i've had it with my old walkman phone, and this feature is a must for me; example: When playing a game while listening to music, or while cycling and phone is in pocket, It really takes the piss to get your phone, unlocking go to your widget.
Volume controls on lock screens are to sensitive for me as my phone randomly skips/stops playing music while he's in my pocket.
I'm running WB 3.8 Thanks in advance
I really want it too....
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+1
Really miss this feature from the old walkman days.
Sendou said:
Hey there,
I've been searching around for a [insert volume rocker overrider thing here]. I've tried rocking shortcuts from the market, but sadly it doesnt work with com.sonyericsson.music ¬¬ i really like this feature, is there anyway to enable it? Because i've had it with my old walkman phone, and this feature is a must for me; example: When playing a game while listening to music, or while cycling and phone is in pocket, It really takes the piss to get your phone, unlocking go to your widget.
Volume controls on lock screens are to sensitive for me as my phone randomly skips/stops playing music while he's in my pocket.
I'm running WB 3.8 Thanks in advance
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With cm7 you can forward rewind on long press volume buttons.
Thanks for your comment, but as i said i'd like to have it with the stock music player on WB, stock 2.3. Since i don't like the other players like playerpro, poweramp etc. I've tried the playerpro one for 3 bucks didn't work, only works with headset. After that i've searched for a miui music (latest version) port for my rom, no luck again. Tried CM7 (z) but i really like the feel of the stock sony rom.
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Thanks for your comment, but as i said i'd like to have it with the stock music player on WB, stock 2.3. Since i don't like the other players like playerpro, poweramp etc. I've tried the playerpro one for 3 bucks didn't work, only works with headset. After that i've searched for a miui music (latest version) port for my rom, no luck again. Tried CM7 (z) but i really like the feel of the stock sony rom.
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Allo mate,
I had the same prob as you, as I couldn't use the cm7 roms due to bugs. So wondered if there was an alternative. Did a bit of searching but it seems the only solution is cm7. I need it for driving. The bugs have been fixed so I'm back on cm7.
Seems shocking there isn't another alternative.
If you do find one, post it here. Just for future reference.
Cheers, Ben.
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Absolutely. This is a must have!!
I vote for this feature too!
I am using Poweramp though. Any solution that works for Poweramp?
For those of you who don't use the sony ericsson music player: Rocking Shortcuts works for me well, the longpress feature isn't the best, but the double/triple press work well for me using cubed player, and I'm sure it works well with a few other players
gogo cubed!
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.tournesol.rockingshortcuts&feature=search_result
I am looking for a music player with a good graphical equalizer. I have yet to find one that works without flaws...
(Running MIUI ROM on an Inspire 4G)
MIUI stock music player:
Sounds good, equalizer is satisfactory, but you can't tell it what folder to pull music from. It just reads the whole phone. It has a setting that you specify minimum file size for, but that's crap. Should be able to just tell it where to find music and only load that music... It also skips/cuts off etc A LOT!
PlayerPro:
This player has a really crappy equalizer. The only positive I can think of about this app is the ability to use SRS enhancement in HTC phones that have it. This one skips/cuts out music more than any other app I have tried. No matter what happens, screen turns off, like 5-20 rapid cutouts. Quality of playback is poor. Accessing certain features are a pain and needs to be able to be accessed from Menu button while in the player, not just the main screen. But the cutouts for anything happening to the phone, browsing for the next song, volume up/down. Minimizing, screen on off. Huge/a lot of cutouts in playback.
PowerAMP:
This was probably one of the better apps. Great equalizer, very direct navigation to whatever you need. But this player also suffers from the cutouts when locking/unlocking or interacting with the phone. This app does have that Buffer setting, but even set to huge (725ms) it still suffers from these cutouts. And the update that came out today.. well that just screwed it up even more...
UberMusic:
Smooth, looks pretty, can tell it's a complete rip from Zune so I know how to navigate it at least. Cutouts while navigating the phone weren't nearly as bad, or didn't happen. The problem with this app is that it doens't have an equalizer. I googled, and found out that Fede (many may know him from that scam app LPP) promised to implement an equalizer. That same dev also promised a re-write of LPP be the end of 2010 and look where LPP is at.. completely abandoned for this music app. With that history I won't buy his music app until the equalizer is implemented. But based on what he's shown with LPP I don't see that happening for 932750923 years.
WinAmp:
Loved it on my computers since middle school... But for the phone, the cut-outs are almost as bad as PlayerPro, and it also has a pretty crappy equalizer.
Anybody else know of a good/smooth music app, with no cutouts in music playback and a good equalizer?
Thanks!
What do you mean by cut out, I use pamp and really smooth no problem whatsoever
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Music playback like stops/freezes whenever the screen turns off, or on, or when I unlock, or when I hit menu, or when I hit any button on the phone. If I OPEN something, like browser, it chops like crazy.
It's Depend on your phone & rom. I normally use power amp & never have the problems you mentioned. It never cut out except when receiving incoming sms or call receieved.
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Try double twist. If you like it i'd highly advise buying to unlock all features.
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Same problem with double-twist. Didn't even bother to check for an equalizer...
I guess the problem is with MIUI. Figured after years they'd at least have it compatible with music players that millions of people use..
Never have problems with PowerAmp here, either. Could the cutouts maybe be an issue outside of PowerAmp, like your memory card perhaps, considering that it looks like every app you use has them?
Probably a Rom issue, I have no such issues with either playerpro or poweramp
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GTIVRon said:
Same problem with double-twist. Didn't even bother to check for an equalizer...
I guess the problem is with MIUI. Figured after years they'd at least have it compatible with music players that millions of people use..
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I had a similar problem a few phones back with HTC Hero and Desire. I had it underclocked on screen-off and an app-killer killing on screen off/memory killer. Both caused the music to "jump around" and/or kill the music. Underclocking sounds the more obvious issue here.
If not using either, make sure your SD card is class 4 or higher.
Poweramp had never failed me before, but now using google music on CM7 with DSP manager for the GMusic streaming...
Swyped from the past.
Discard this..
Google Music 4.0 with DSP Manager
I am using PowerAmp for an entire year and dont remember having a single cutout. You probably have a problem in your rom.
Yea I believe it might be a ROM issue, others in the ROM thread confirmed they also have this problem. I'm using the SD card that came with the phone, not sure what class it is...
Thanks for the tips!
ive tried all of the apps you mentioned except poweramp and none of them had "cutouts"
Question for you guys...
I stream music from my phone while I work out, using Amazon Music. On my AW watch, once music is playing, it is always on the active watch face (change track, volume, etc). On the Gear, if I open the music app, I get the same features (even the cover art), but when the face times out, the app closes. Is there a way to get it stay on until I close it? It's handy to have running while I am working out.
Thanks!
I'm not sure if this helps, but my BeyondPod podcast app stays on my S3 music player widget after I initiate it on the paired S6 phone. Have you tried using the music player widget?
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DaWeav said:
I'm not sure if this helps, but my BeyondPod podcast app stays on my S3 music player widget after I initiate it on the paired S6 phone. Have you tried using the music player widget?
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I have not, I'm more familiar with Android Wear. I will see if I can figure that out. You mean set it as one of the programs you can quickly access from the bezel?
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I have not, I'm more familiar with Android Wear. I will see if I can figure that out. You mean set it as one of the programs you can quickly access from the bezel?
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Yes there's a music widget app. I have mines set up to be the first widget from my watch face for easy access. Any time you play music from your phone from mostly any app it will show up controls for it. Weather its the stock music app, YouTube, Spotify, play music, or SoundCloud to name the few I use it will show up. Just go all the way to the right of your watch fave with the bezel scroll and it will have the option to place a new widget and just hold the widget when place to move it around
ret4425 said:
Question for you guys...
I stream music from my phone while I work out, using Amazon Music. On my AW watch, once music is playing, it is always on the active watch face (change track, volume, etc). On the Gear, if I open the music app, I get the same features (even the cover art), but when the face times out, the app closes. Is there a way to get it stay on until I close it? It's handy to have running while I am working out.
Thanks!
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This!! Music controls are essential. I also went from AW and this has been my biggest issue. I would have loved the watch to keep the app open, any app for that matter, until I chose otherwise.
My "fix" has been to add the music player app to open with the double click action, but it's still a pain.
Also, rotating the bezel to skip songs instead of volume, seems kind of redundant in my eyes, as there are already buttons for that on the screen.
so if I am tracking, you have to rotate to the widget each time you want to manipulate the music? am I getting it right? there is no "stay active" portion of the music player?
thanks all
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so if I am tracking, you have to rotate to the widget each time you want to manipulate the music? am I getting it right? there is no "stay active" portion of the music player?
thanks all
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It would seem that way. I really hope someone finds a fix for this.
+1 here....I'd like a way to keep ANY app in the foreground...sigh....
skeeter123 said:
+1 here....I'd like a way to keep ANY app in the foreground...sigh....
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It really shouldn't be that difficult either. I'm new to Tizen, but as far as I can understand, it was a feature they removed.
This doesn't really help solve the issue, but another way to get to the music player quickly is to swipe down from the top (12 o'clock position) of the watch face to get to the "quick settings." There you will see a music note - touch it and it brings up the music player.
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This doesn't really help solve the issue, but another way to get to the music player quickly is to swipe down from the top (12 o'clock position) of the watch face to get to the "quick settings." There you will see a music note - touch it and it brings up the music player.
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Thanks While it's nice to have a shortcut there, you still have to navigate to that button every time, which is a hazzle. It seems we just have to wait till Samsung hopefully brings an update to fix this.
request it as a feature through samsung's help system, this can be found in the Samsung gear app in the help options.
i requested it there before I found this thread.
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request it as a feature through samsung's help system, this can be found in the Samsung gear app in the help options.
i requested it there before I found this thread.
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Thank you! :good: Didn't know they had that. Do you think they will actually listen?
big companies only listen to big noise, so it's unlikely they'll do anything unless more people suggest this.
thephonus directed my attention to this little tool in another thread: http://apps.samsung.com/gear/appDetail.as?appId=suQANKUenM
it's a decent temporary solution, while active it disables the standby/AOD timer.
you should be careful though, as it also prevents burn-in protection from activating (shifting pixels, low light)
For those of us who want to run a more standard Android launcher (Nova, oem launchers, etc), what are you guys doing re: music player controls?
I've noticed that car launchers like Agama and Vivid have pretty cool music controls integrated in- whether it is my Bluetooth connection to a phone, Spotify, Amazon Music, YT Music, etc., it displays whatever track information it has (sometimes art too) and universal play/pause/next/prev buttons. I like that.
My Atoto S8 Ultra (uis7862 based unit) comes with a pretty standard launcher. There is a music widget that seems to control just the built in local music player, which I don't like and therefore don't use. It got me thinking, are there any universal widgets that can work the same way the Vivid/Agama/etc launchers handle it?
I found and tried the following so far:
Music Widgets for Car Devices
This seemed promising on paper. I can't get it to switch between sources however, it gets stuck on the last one used even if I clear all open apps. For example, if I had Spotify open, and the next time I drive I want to listen to Amazon Music, it still shows Spotify controls and track information. I have to go into settings for the widget and press OK, only then will it update.
Also, I think I had the Bluetooth track control the very first time I installed it (I was playing music over BT to test it), but ever since I used it with anything else (Spotify, Amazon, etc) it refuses to ever go back to BT control.
Material Music Widget
I like the aesthetics of this one, seems much nicer than the first one. BUT, the trial version only allows you to connect it to a single app player so I can't confirm if it does what I want correctly. I also can't seem to get it to recognize the BT player, I'd imagine if it wasn't designed to be a car player widget it wouldn't be aware of that as an option.
What else should I try? What do you guys use?
I use Poweramp without any widget. The interface allows you to swipe left, right, up and down on the album cover. Very easy and intuitive. I like keeping it open to see the album cover. I have navigation, Waze on the left 2/3 of the screen and Poweramp on the right 1/3. I think it's 2/3 and 1/3 or it could be 3/4 and 1/4...not sure. I usually use the steering wheel controls to switch to the next song and play/pause. I have another button to change source, but I usually don't. I usually listen to the music on my USB stick using Poweramp.
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I use Poweramp without any widget. The interface allows you to swipe left, right, up and down on the album cover. Very easy and intuitive. I like keeping it open to see the album cover. I have navigation, Waze on the left 2/3 of the screen and Poweramp on the right 1/3. I think it's 2/3 and 1/3 or it could be 3/4 and 1/4...not sure. I usually use the steering wheel controls to switch to the next song and play/pause. I have another button to change source, but I usually don't. I usually listen to the music on my USB stick using Poweramp.
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That doesn't help me though.
I have multiple drivers of my car between my wife and daughter, we use a mix of sources between Spotify, Amazon Music, AA/Bluetooth (because my daughter has her own spotify account she wants to use), etc.
It's annoying to have so many interfaces, I feel like there could/should be one set of "now playing" info on the display, with one universal set of controls for pause/play/next etc.
Agama and other launchers do this correctly, but their UI is too busy and too far from stock for me. I like the stock Android UI better, with the recognizable and colorful icons, but finding a widget like this seems harder than expected.
I am finding the folks at 4PDA made something called Music Proxy which sort of takes over the FYT standard audio player and uses that widget. However, Atoto's built in player widget is kind of ugly, huge, and doesn't even support album art (unlike other launchers that have this built in), I was hoping for a better option.
Suggesting a totally different app (Poweramp) isn't a solution for me personally, although I appreciate the reply.
Still searching for music widget that can go forward and rewind the tracks
Ubiquity ?
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Ubiquity ?
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Does that work on our modern Android OS?
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Does that work on our modern Android OS?
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No idea. I know they used it on the FYT Android 6 Sofia's. I never used it. I had to dig down deep in my memory and then search Google Play Store to find it back.
I guess you simply have to try.
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No idea. I know they used it on the FYT Android 6 Sofia's. I never used it. I had to dig down deep in my memory and then search Google Play Store to find it back.
I guess you simply have to try.
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I wanted to as soon you wrote it, but it says not compatible with my version of Android.
I could try forcing it via side load but I feel like it might just not work since it says designed for KitKat.
Its a shame because we know it's possible for a widget to do what we are asking but no one has done it.
Meanwhile, thanks to suggestions elsewhere here, I found the music widget updater for Teyes and the music proxy app from 4pda that goes along with it.
It's VERY CLOSE to what I want. It turns the standard FYT music player into a "now playing" universal widget, supports pretty much any media including Bluetooth, and gives play/pause/prev/next controls to whatever is currently playing.
The only problem is that the Atoto oem widget is ugly and still doesn't support album art the way the ones I found above do.
It also doesn't go forward or back in the track like the other suggestion, but I know that isn't compatible with Bluetooth streaming anyway (avrcp support is weak, even in the Bluetooth player screen).
I wish I had more experience with app development so I could try making it myself.
Do you have link?
WidgetUpdater for Teyes (Demo) - Apps on Google Play
Display title, artist and cover of the track in Teyes widgets
play.google.com
FYI, thanks to a post in another thread, @surfer63 pointed out that Ubiquity widget DOES work if you just sideload the apk, despite the Play Store saying incompatible. I installed mine from here and it seems to work:
https://m.apkpure.com/ubiquity-music-widget/com.jackthakar.musicwidget
The problem is, it STILL doesn't do what I wanted apparently: Give universal controls for all audio playing, including Bluetooth.
It's pretty much the same as the apps listed in the first post - as in, a good universal widget for apps (Spotify, Amazon Music, Youtube, etc). But it still does not recognize Bluetooth audio streaming. For that source of audio, you need to use the Bluetooth app on the radio to see and control what's playing. This is what I'm trying to avoid having to do.
The launchers like Vivid, Agama, etc, can all seem to integrate this into one player control. Even the WidgetUpdater for Teyes app linked above this post seems to get it, but relies on a very poorly designed stock launcher widget that doesn't look right on Atoto's launcher (text is aligned oddly). It's totally possible to get this working, but I wonder what I'm doing wrong.
Is it possible that Ubiquity works with other FYT units and their Bluetooth controls? I know my Atoto has a funny Bluetooth system compared to other FYT radios.
UPDATE:
Vivid Launcher. If you've tried it before and found it buggy, try it again now. It does it perfectly.
A long time ago and it was terrible re: compatibility with FYT (it was made for a different radio type). Tried to do too much customization and fell short, being buggy and freezing a lot.
I just tried it again because I remember their music widget was pretty spot on, and I have to say it seems like they really fixed it up to be more compatible, and the audio controls are now EVERYTHING I WANTED IT TO BE!
It will even automatically switch to Bluetooth audio as a source if you start playing something off your phone, pausing the head unit's playback elsewhere. Before this, if I was playing Spotify locally, I couldn't hear voice notes on my phone unless I switch over to the BT app. With the new Vivid launcher, it will automatically pause Spotify and switch to BT as a source when it detects something is playing there. I can then hit play on spotify again and continue.
And no matter what audio source is active, their music screen acts as a universal widget with controls and titles and even album art if there is any. I'm just so excited to have found this I had to share.
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UPDATE:
Vivid Launcher. If you've tried it before and found it buggy, try it again now. It does it perfectly.
A long time ago and it was terrible re: compatibility with FYT (it was made for a different radio type). Tried to do too much customization and fell short, being buggy and freezing a lot.
I just tried it again because I remember their music widget was pretty spot on, and I have to say it seems like they really fixed it up to be more compatible, and the audio controls are now EVERYTHING I WANTED IT TO BE!
It will even automatically switch to Bluetooth audio as a source if you start playing something off your phone, pausing the head unit's playback elsewhere. Before this, if I was playing Spotify locally, I couldn't hear voice notes on my phone unless I switch over to the BT app. With the new Vivid launcher, it will automatically pause Spotify and switch to BT as a source when it detects something is playing there. I can then hit play on spotify again and continue.
And no matter what audio source is active, their music screen acts as a universal widget with controls and titles and even album art if there is any. I'm just so excited to have found this I had to share.
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What kind of phone do you have and what version of Vivid launcher?
I have special version working well with NavRadio+ and when I use my phone that player sometimes changes into BT playing even if there's no music, but for example sound of typing.
I have a Oneplus 10 Pro, and I dunno - whatever version of Vivid is on the play store about 3 days ago!
I just installed the Vivid launcher on my wife's A6 pf (8581a) and none of the bluetooth or phone functions exist, so I guess they turn on / off features when it recognizes certain hardware?
I noticed that mine lags a couple of seconds before switching to bluetooth, so a notification like turning on my phone or getting a message doesn't switch, but anything that plays for 2+ seconds did. So a voice note would cut off the first couple of seconds, but at least I can replay if I need to and still don't need to change the headunit over.
Maybe your kb has too much constant noise so it clicks over?