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Android or Windows Mobile ?

Hi,
im searchin for a new mobile... i wanted to buy it in the next 2 or 3 weeks, but there is a big problem:
i dunno what mobile would be the best for me :S
I am thinking about Windows mobile and Android ... The windows mobile phones i have used till now are quite nice, but no one really made me fully happy ... i always tried to port other interfaces and so on my lg ks20 and htc diamond.
i´ve seen that android has a quite nice interface with very good touch friendly options...
my windows mobile candidate would be of course the HTC Leo , what the android canditate would be is just open till now ...
I often browse in Wifi networks , like facebook, gmail, icq, etc. and therefor i am searching for an mobile with good browsing quality ... what camera there is ... i dont care about that crap ... just being comfortable in networks , chatting , sharing files and so on...
Hope you can help me ..
else any questions ? just post, i will directly answer.
See ya
Sallal
//EDIT: I saw now some androids and i think nexus one and desire are very good but , what is the difference between them ?

Hi,
In term of memory management Windows mobile is far way better and for the interface also you have a lot of ui for windows mobile that are now very close to the Android style that you are searching for(if not even better).
I first bought an HTC Hero and was very happy the first two months but then it became so boring because of that lack of programs for it.
Now I am on a Leo and I can assure you that the moment you will put this device in your hand,you will be impressed by his speed.
Hurry up before the HD3

what about the htc desire ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5T4gEQKThsg
this video impressed me

Sense La Révolution for Windows Mobiles SPB Mobile Shell:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKzIT5DhUZA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QydHxYziKwY

Here it is in a nutshell,
Android is the new kid on the block, rough around the edges, not fully functional yet, short on apps, in dire need of updates, but with the genuine potential to be an actual iPhone killer ( hence Apple vs HTC suit solely filed to slow down Android ). Android is on it's way, but not going to be great until, after whatever Android phone you buy now, is old and tired.
Windows Mobile is tried and true, tons of free apps, full bluetooth functionality, full Exchange and Office functionality, easy to sync, fully customizable to your needs, but it is what it is and will not get any better. Whatever you buy now, will not be upgradeable to Windows Phone 7 Series, and WP7S would appear to be that " make it or break it " for
Windows Mobile.
In short ? Android = up and coming, but not quite there yet. Windows Mobile = Already mature, but could be on the down slide soon.
If you are living for today, Windows Mobile hands down. Come this fall ? Phones with Android 3.0 ? Windows Phone 7 Series ? Who knows.
The Nexus One is Googles Android device made by HTC, The Desire " was " the Droid Eris, but has since been reassigned to the HTC branded Nexus One.

@die_Leuchte: Danke für die videos, ich hab mich entschieden / Thanks for the Videos , now ive decided what to take
@denco7: i know it is a nutshell, but if i see what android showed on mwc for example, it seems that it has millions of apps and is just now the iphone killer ^^
just crap what they are sayin ?

sallal said:
@die_Leuchte: Danke für die videos, ich hab mich entschieden / Thanks for the Videos , now ive decided what to take
@denco7: i know it is a nutshell, but if i see what android showed on mwc for example, it seems that it has millions of apps and is just now the iphone killer ^^
just crap what they are sayin ?
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http://phandroid.com/2009/11/23/android-vs-windows-mobile/
Add to that limited Bluetooth capabilities and ( important to me ) limited M$ Exchange and Office capabilities it just isn't mature enough yet to be a serious multitasking phone for business.
Don't get me wrong, I think Android is the future of Mobile OS' . WP7s is going to have to do a lot to convince me otherwise. And I am leaning towards an Android phone after Android 3.0 and WP7s come out, just from what I have seen of Android 1.5, 1.6, 2.0 and 2.1 on the Nexus, I just still don't think that it is capable yet.

so you think that if you would buy a smartphone now, you would choose winmo...
if you could buy it in 2 years , you would choose maybe android ... right?

Do not be fooled by a shiny interface just like I was.Besides what you are seeing on an Android phone is the Sense UI made by HTC.
If I am not wrong the Nexus one doesn't have the Sense UI.
I am not telling that Android(in reality Linux) is not a good phone.On the contrary you will find it with very useful applications but in some cases just like what happened to me you will not have a wide range of choice for the same application.
For Ex:If you want a Virtual Keyboard,because Android is still new you will have only 2 or 3 keyboards(maybe there is more now) to choose from but on Windows Mobile you have more than 15 competitors to choose from with years of experience in that field .
So,
Android is for you if you can be satisfied with what you have.
Windows is for you if you are thirsty of applications
Hope this helped

thirsty guy
well, i always need to get more apps to have another quit unuseful thing on my mobile, like wifi router or so
then i take the leo ^^
EDIT: @forcefield: i recieved an email , that swype for android is out your problem is solved now

Here is a quote from another german forum
there is no "better" one, some like winmo and some android more ...
before i buyed my new phone i thinked about the hd2 and the milestone... i choosed the milestone and i dont regret nothing !
looking at the amount of apps i would choose android because its just much easier and uncomplicated .. with more apps than windows mobile.
i dont know whats the difference between the desire and the nexus one , but you can wait until they get on the german market to see more information..
pointing on the battery strength maybe its disapointing but i have to be honest, its normally just between 1 and 3 days depending on how you use your phone.
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i still think that windows mobile has more apps.. but the problem is , they are just widespread in the www.
battery: an issue what wont be solved in 500 years.
Original Post from http://www.handy-faq.de/forum/handyberatung/128679-suche_gutes_browsing_handy.html
Sry for the bad translation, it is freely made by me ^^

another question ... i you would have the choice between touch pro 2 aka rhodium and hd 2 aka leo , which one would you take ?
with reasons please =) ...
sallal

I'm suprised that no one has brought this up, but, if you got a Windows phone, don't you always have the option of running Android on it? I don't think it works the other way around. Please, PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong.

jadesdan said:
I'm suprised that no one has brought this up, but, if you got a Windows phone, don't you always have the option of running Android on it? I don't think it works the other way around. Please, PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong.
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Android proted to WM is still a port. It runs within WM and some of the features of Android don't work and some of the features of the phone won't work with the Android port. It will never be as fast or as smooth as Android running natively.
sallal said:
another question ... i you would have the choice between touch pro 2 aka rhodium and hd 2 aka leo , which one would you take ?
with reasons please =) ...
sallal
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I would take the Leo, faster processor, bigger more beautiful display, more ram. The only plus for the Rhodium is the slide out keyboard.
But just remember that neither phone is going to be upgradable to Windows Phone 7 Series.

of course take the LEO!!!
I own Touch Diamond 2 (which is basically like TP2 without the slide out keyboard) and it's really great and everything. But then I also have access to Samsung Omnia II with 800 Mhz CPU and it's running so much faster and more smoothy. And the big display is insane!! Then go figure because HD2 even comes with 1 GHz!!!! IMO it would be stupid to buy the OLD TP2 with only 528 Mhz.....

jadesdan said:
I'm suprised that no one has brought this up, but, if you got a Windows phone, don't you always have the option of running Android on it? I don't think it works the other way around. Please, PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong.
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No, there's no fully working Android version for any WM phone. They all have bugs and stuff not working.

[10JUN] HTC Mondrian Windows Phone 7 concept [Diamond3/Touch Pro3] [iPhone 4 added]

I have created a concept for the first Windows Phone 7 devices codenamed Mondrian by HTC. It is largely inspired by the design of the HTC Touch Diamond, which is generally regarded as the most beautiful phone HTC ever made.
Following the current HTC lineup, there will be three versions, of which I have completed the Diamond3 and Touch Pro3. The Touch HD3 concept will come later.
Larger view - click the download link on the right to get the full-size render
PSD is available on deviantArt
Just for the fun of it, I also did an iPhone 4 PSD
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Feedback, suggestions etc. are welcome! Hope you like this .

This is realy great looking!!!
I use your dialpad and this would realy finish it.

Well, this is neither a theme nor can you use it to transform your device, but just a design concept .

No ok but you or someone should use this for a theme...

Drool. HTC need to give you a call. I'd buy this in a heart beat if it were real (and had a good qwerty)

Yeah, I guess I'll make a version with hardware keyboard next. That would be a bit more challenging, though .

Ja mein Freund das waehre doch super!!Deine Tastatur benuetze Ich schon.
Aber ein theme das so aussehen wuerde.....
Hans

Diamond series will be nice. Prefer a larger screen HD3.

Great............ When is it supposed to come out on the market??

Nice concept ! I like it!

Added a Touch Pro3 concept with keyboard .
[email protected] said:
Ja mein Freund das waehre doch super!!Deine Tastatur benuetze Ich schon.
Aber ein theme das so aussehen wuerde.....
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Gibt doch schon ein paar für SPB Mobile Shell, ThrottleLauncher, WAD usw. .
JayceOoi said:
Diamond series will be nice. Prefer a larger screen HD3.
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Will do it later.
dudu7559 said:
Great............ When is it supposed to come out on the market??
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This is just a concept, but Microsoft said the first WP7 devices will come out with the holiday season, which isn't really specific, though. I think I read somewhere that HTC will bring their first devices at the end of the year.

Now that with the keyboard would be a bad-ass phone.

Great work Livven!!!
Wish TP3 will go on that line

Thanks for your feedback .
BTW does anybody have some ideas for an HD3 concept? How should it look like - maybe a metal border, a brushed aluminium look, maybe even white body? I need some creativity...

i had td2 it WAS a beautifull phone, i miss it now lol

looks nice, I'd go with a TP2 style key arrangement and spacing, but with all of the buttons shown here

I think the HD3 concept should have the front of an HTC HD Mini, the back of a more square-angeled HTC Legend, and stereo speakers, all in addition to your other concept specs. It would be awesome!

**** turpin said:
i had td2 it WAS a beautifull phone, i miss it now lol
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I agree, I think it's looks much better than the HD2 or TP2. Only the original Diamond looks better, in my opinion.
ckacey said:
looks nice, I'd go with a TP2 style key arrangement and spacing, but with all of the buttons shown here
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Maybe I'll do it later, I just took the keyboard from the Touch Pro for my current concept as creating a new one is quite difficult.
Fdo35 said:
I think the HD3 concept should have the front of an HTC HD Mini, the back of a more square-angeled HTC Legend, and stereo speakers, all in addition to your other concept specs. It would be awesome!
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Stereo speakers on the front or back? And vertically (top and bottom) or horizontally (left and right)?
Thanks for your suggestions !

Very nice looking!!! Let's hope it's going to look like this. Looking forward to the HD3 concept
[email protected] said:
Ja mein Freund das waehre doch super!!Deine Tastatur benuetze Ich schon.
Aber ein theme das so aussehen wuerde.....
Hans
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How come it says your from the Netherlands but you speak German?
Please talk English so everybody understands. Thanks.

I would be all over that touch pro 3, until I see an hd3 concept of course. . lol

Help with Apad/Iped

Is anyone working on the Apad/Iped Android device?

yes since 5hours
I want to flash with 2.2...
???

2.2
yes i have a irobot apad 1.6 and would love to flash it to 2.2 or even 2.1 what do you know about it

Apad
I have had my Apad for 2 days and its working pretty well. At slatedroid there are some custom roms but nothing spectacular. Hiapad is supposed to be releasing a 2.x update between now and july. Seeing is believing.

Update
Just found out the internal mic doesn't work. I don't know if it ever did. No the camera is showing green static lines around the bottom and right edge.
Using my Apad/Iped for pandora, working very well.

Hello again
now I'm not happy
I bought it here:
www . irobotandroid . com
this is fraud
it is NOT the right iRobot !
it has only an VIA ARM9 Processor,
it's not the iRobot/apad I want to buy
it's another android tablet - not the right on
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mal auf deutsch:
Lieferung war super schnell UPS24h ,
aber das gerät ist nicht dass, das er auf der seite anbietet
was ich bekommen habe hat 256mb ram, 2gb flash
und leider nen lahmen VIA chip
anstatt dem erwarteten Rockwell chip
das ist leider Beschiss - mal schauen, ob der Verkäufer sich dazu äussert
aber davon abgesehen geht das gerät soweit
nur ein passendes deutsches netzteil musste ich besorgen.
es ist so ein epad (kein iRobot) :
einfach mal in ebay nach epad suchen
für weit unter 100,- zu bekommen
Ich wollte aber das iRobot mit dem Rockwell dualcore chip
naja
Igi

good
Hello ,
You like Apad ? I have already bought one . So fashonable and useful . Also the best is that it's really so cheap . Because I always buy some small thing from them . And request they give me a special discount . I introduce it for you . shenit.com
Hoping you would like .
By2

oh it's a fine store
good prices

The apad 10.2" running 2.1 with 1gig processor is only $208.11 shipped UPS from a company I know of. Mine will arrive Friday!
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I know its been awhile but... I did get the apad and I was VERY disappointed. The touch screen sucked. Would hardly pick up a wifi signal along with other issues. Being some of the first android tablets that were sold I was ready for little issues but not like this. I sold it within a week and bought an ipad. Boy what a difference. IMO the android tablets have a long way to come before they come anywhere close to an ipad. I don't care for the Mac os but I will deal with it due to the way this thing operates. This ipad is fast. I have 4 computers in my house with 3 running off of my wireless N router and the ipad is by far the fastest surfing the web. I really like it and I can't wait till there is an android based tablet for sale that will compair. When there is I will buy it. Until then I am pretty happy with the ipad. Just food for thought.
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azturbomini said:
I know its been awhile but... I did get the apad and I was VERY disappointed. The touch screen sucked. Would hardly pick up a wifi signal along with other issues. p
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I'm having those problems too.. the touch is really sluggish and the wifi refuses to connect. it shows that it cannot detect my router and I'm right next to it.

Need help on my Android Apad !!
Dear all i bought an Apad and facing some problems, I don't know what batch all I know is that it has front camera, version 1.6, AC 9 volt, no USB2 but Ethernet/USB adaptor, Memory 256, Kernel version 2.6.29-00236-g4f8dbbb-dirty, and Build# 1.9
I'm very confused and I need to ROOT this Apad in order to Arabiz it (make it Arabic enabled) and my Apad is not reading my WIFI hotspot mobile which I discovered that Apad factory firmware is not supporting Ad-hoc so not reading my mobile phone that I use out of home in order to connect PC to internet.
I've tried to connect it to PC as I saw some videos at Youtube but no response as my Apad doesn't have USB2 only Ethernet/USB adaptor and only press on POWER button not ON/OFF switch like the model in videos. Please help me out in easy steps as I feel illiterate in technology when I read any forum comments about Apad , guys would you be patient and help me. Thanking you in advance.

New Android handheld gaming console

The Yinlips YDP-G18 is probably the cheapest Android device you can find with dedicated game controls. It would be cool if someone could cook up an updated English language ROM for it.
Official site:
http://www.yinlips.com/en/productdetail.asp?ID=220
Where to buy:
http://www.isharegifts.com/yinlips-android-game-console-wifi-tablet-mp4-p-1573.html
Review (with lots of photos):
http://translate.google.com/transla...u=http://www.imp3.net/1/show.php?itemid=32282
Video showing it emulate N64 and PSX games:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00C6RT-HawU

Hello,
This is a very promising console, we are currently testing and we must admit that this console is doing pretty well ... It's just a few thoughtful developers to take advantage of the machine maximum.
Go on google and write "CAANOO forumactif" to see the test!
The root is effective and the market is available.
Sorry for my poor english, i'm french

They already rooted it and installed android market on it. IMHO, it should get its own section. Having stripped down froyo or gb roms on it could further improve performance and battery life.
If I had the coin, I'd buy it right away. It's priced at $125 with free shipping. And it's the projection of my most beautiful dreams. Except for the two cameras it has.

It's actually a good product that can have enormous potential. Its biggest flaw is its current autonomy should be 3 hours with Wi-Fi enabled.
The screen is resistive, but responds well. It allows running N64 and PSX games fairly easily and without overclock.
I would love to also see a section for Android handheld and quickly see the arrival of Roms Customs and modified kernels.
For those who want to take the tests, the French member of the community are being Caanoo get them to see what she has in the stomach. I'm happy to keep you informed of the various tests that we will achieve.

I'm also getting one of these, looks promising with some tweaks or a new custom rom will be much better

Only 3 hr battery life? You'd think they'd be able to get more in there. But cool concept nonetheless.

Those who want to see the handheld running you can go see the videos that were made ​​by @ BAFelton at: Sorry but i can't link URL, so Go on Youtube and search BAFelton61
It gives a good idea of ​​what is possible.
Also, @ qbertaddict also examines the machine

Will get back to you almost certainly after the new year. Ordered it yesterday and they announced 15-20 business days until arrival

Yinlips has announced the update 2.3 (gingerbread) on the G18. This is good news to know that there is a follow-up from the manufacturer!

k0en, here too ?
Yeah i'm follow up this awesome device too, and still check what is possible to do with .... Christmas is coming...
Why not a CyanogenMod ? lol
We start collecting interesting infos:
Source: http://openlinux.amlogic.com/wiki/index.php/Arm
GPU: http://www.arm.com/products/multimedia/mali-graphics-hardware/mali-400-mp.php

FYI there is an active discussion including first-hand reviews of this device on this thread:
http://boards.dingoonity.org/other-game-systems/new-opensource-console-announced-the-rg/

10basetom said:
FYI there is an active discussion including first-hand reviews of this device on this thread:
http://boards.dingoonity.org/other-game-systems/new-opensource-console-announced-the-rg/
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That's not the same device.... Is it?
Yeah its not the one in the thread has a capacitive the one on topic has a resistive and only one joystick
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cis.snakeman said:
k0en, here too ?
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Of course I'm All Around The Web
otherwise, it is the iReadyGo, not the G18 Yinlips. The prototype iReadyGo is not marketed. Here we talk about the G18. Is there any devs interested in working on improving it and make some changes?

butch87402 said:
That's not the same device.... Is it?
Yeah its not the one in the thread has a capacitive the one on topic has a resistive and only one joystick
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At Reply #218 thay suddenly stop talking about the RG and switch to talking about the YDPG18.

butch87402 said:
That's not the same device.... Is it?
Yeah its not the one in the thread has a capacitive the one on topic has a resistive and only one joystick
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At about the third page or so they start talking about the Yinlips device.

Has anyone bought this? Other than the bafbelton and qd something ? Is it work it? I only like it for the buttons
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butch87402 said:
Has anyone bought this? Other than the bafbelton and qd something ? Is it work it? I only like it for the buttons
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There are others who have bought this. You can find their videos by searching for the Yinlips device on YouTube.

nice device.. but is? only chinese or english too?

JC LEON said:
nice device.. but is? only chinese or english too?
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From what I can see in the videos, it's Chinese by default but can be changed to English. Since it's an Android device, in theory you would eventually be able to cook custom roms for this thing.

This is a steal, even though the touchscreen is resistive the specs are very good.
My interests are in the details, though: Does the analog stick work as a mouse in android? How is the screen quality with brightness and color? How easily can ROMs be customized?
If these things met with satisfaction I would buy today.
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[Q] Best cheap tablet from Amazon around $100-$200 ?

Hey guys
I'm from outside the US and looking for a nice tablet for under $200 (yay 3rd-world-country currency restrictions ). Now, I've had an old HTC Magic, then a Motorola Defy and now a ZTE V970M. They're all great phones, with lots of development and nice features, and I'm looking for a tablet that I can get from Amazon with the same or similar features.
Basically, I'm looking for this:
A tablet that is small (7" is enough, I wouldn't mind 10" though) with a capacitive screen (or responsive enough, anyways) with some development other than the stock ROM and Android 4.0+, since I love to make ROMs for android devices. Also, I'm planning to use it to connect it to HDMI TVs, so an HDMI output would be a big bonus. I would also try to use it as a laptop so allowing connectivity to any of those case-with-keyboard things (through bluetooth or USB) is a need. I don't care much for battery life, as long as it can be rooted I can work my way around to make it save battery like hell
Here are the options I've looked at:
Around 180$ & 168$ respectively: Galaxy Tab 2 ( http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galax...ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1368472318&sr=1-1 ) and Galaxy Tab Plus ( http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galax...f=sr_1_19?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1368472318&sr=1-19 ) but they don't have HDMI output, not even with an external converter, I was wondering if that's true?
119$: The Coby MID7065-8 ( http://www.amazon.com/Coby-7-Inch-A...ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1368472318&sr=1-4 ) looks good but... it's Coby :/ and also, it doesn't seem to have a CyanogenMod-compatible CPU, and I don't wanna be locked to ICS forever.
165$: The Acer Iconia looks *awesome* ( http://www.amazon.com/Acer-A500-10S...f=sr_1_22?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1368472318&sr=1-22 ) but it's Android 3.0, is it a good buy if I can upgrade it to CM 10 or a stock 4.0-4.1-4.2 ?
174$: This Galaxy Tab SCH-i800 looks weird, is it any good? ( http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galax...f=sr_1_50?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1368472705&sr=1-50 )
104$!!!: This SANEI looks awesome too ( http://www.amazon.com/Android-Scree...f=sr_1_71?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1368472813&sr=1-71 ) but I wonder if I can upgrade it to more than ICS/JB ? it has a Cortex A9 and I've heard there's some compatible CM around for Cortex chips, so would it be a good buy?
$199: The Kindle Fire HD seems like a good $199 option ( http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1555100222&pf_rd_i=507846 ) BUUUUUT... it's a reader, and I've had experiences with the B&N Nook Simple Touch that I don't wanna repeat, such as having a very locked firmware and not having all of the working features if I upgrade to CM or something similar :/
Any tips guys? I really need the advice, as I need to make a choice by tomorrow maximum
Thanks in advance!
- DARKGuy

nexus 7 hands down

DeeMann said:
nexus 7 hands down
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Yeah but the Nexus 7 is from swappa actually I have to remove that option XD since it doesn't fit my tight time requirements
What about the iconia A500 though? I've seen it has better screen resolution, Tegra 2 and such, plus JB 4.2 judging by the subforum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1136

Acer does make good products and I guess for your needs it would work

DeeMann said:
Acer does make good products and I guess for your needs it would work
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Yeah it does, I have an Aspire One from them and it's awesome, still rockin' playing League of Legends and such, well I got the Acer after a looooooooot of thought, I hope it's a good buy

You can't really go wrong with Acer.

metroins said:
You can't really go wrong with Acer.
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And you were very f'ing right I got the tablet and I don't regret the buy. It's awesome! thanks for the support and help

darkguy2008 said:
And you were very f'ing right I got the tablet and I don't regret the buy. It's awesome! thanks for the support and help
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I'm glad it worked out for you.