I wanna know about bloatware list in desire S stock rom...
and the reason why I must remove each of that ware ?
thanks
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I wanna know about bloatware list in desire S stock rom...
and the reason why I must remove each of that ware ?
thanks
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If you going to attempt to remove it, then you'll need root and to get that you need to be S-OFF (AlpharevX) so then you might as well install a custom ROM, which will probably have this "ware" already removed.
It's not like we're short of memory.
I already S-OFF my desire S. but since I don't want to install custom rom, maybe I wanna try to remove those wares in my current stock rom, because I think those wares give some effects to my DS performance.
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I already S-OFF my desire S. but since I don't want to install custom rom, maybe I wanna try to remove those wares in my current stock rom, because I think those wares give some effects to my DS performance.
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each to their own I suppose, but I personally can't see the difference between that and a stock based custom, which will additionally have optimizations and probably bug fixes incorporated so will have far greater performance.
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each to their own I suppose, but I personally can't see the difference between that and a stock based custom, which will additionally have optimizations and probably bug fixes incorporated so will have far greater performance.
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hmm, okay...
maybe I'll try virtuous unity to check if this custom rom has better performance than default rom
thanks
-Vermillion- said:
hmm, okay...
maybe I'll try virtuous unity to check if this custom rom has better performance than default rom
thanks
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I use LBC MOD...which is an improved stock where as Virtuos Unity is a re-write of the Pyramid ROM.
Although I believe that currently ALL of the customs have better performance than STOCK they all just have a different look and feel about them.
You don't 'have' to remove anything or install any custom Rom. S-off can give Su access adequate for some people to perform certain functions / customisations unavailable without su.
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Lol......Thanks for your input
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Lol......Thanks for your input
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Damn tiny keyboards & sausage like fingers haha!
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ben_pyett said:
each to their own I suppose, but I personally can't see the difference between that and a stock based custom, which will additionally have optimizations and probably bug fixes incorporated so will have far greater performance.
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But is there a custom ROM which is 100% complete feature wise. They all seem to have bugs or missing functionality.
Is it possible to install plain old android with no modifications?
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But is there a custom ROM which is 100% complete feature wise. They all seem to have bugs or missing functionality.
Is it possible to install plain old android with no modifications?
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Yes I believe that LBC MOD ROM has, which is why I use it, I then instal market applications for additional functionality which you wouldn't want in the base rom as they are constantly updated.
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I've cooked a ROM based on the stock HTC European ROM - which doesn't have any carrier associated bloatware - and then flashed mdj's improved kernel & a couple of other things, its nice & basic but has all functionality present.
I'm thinking you could do similar by flashing stock HTC ROM, then flash mdj's kernel. Basic ROM 101
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I've S offed and rooted. I'm a bit skeptical of installing a rom. My concerns are of battery life, stability, and receiving calls. Is there any rom out there for the desire s now that is atleast 95% completed with a few bugs?
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For me, LBC v0.5.3 works flawlessly - 100% complete in my opinion. No stability issues for me whatsoever.. No crashes, FCs etc, no issues making or receiving calls, smoothness better than stock and battery life same/better than stock. It's a no brainer IMHO.
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For me, LBC v0.5.3 works flawlessly - 100% complete in my opinion. No stability issues for me whatsoever.. No crashes, FCs etc, no issues making or receiving calls, smoothness better than stock and battery life same/better than stock. It's a no brainer IMHO.
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ditto to the above comment, would have said the same but was beaten to it...
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For me, LBC v0.5.3 works flawlessly - 100% complete in my opinion. No stability issues for me whatsoever.. No crashes, FCs etc, no issues making or receiving calls, smoothness better than stock and battery life same/better than stock. It's a no brainer IMHO.
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I'm waiting for an AOSP rom (CM 8hopefully), because that's my preference, but for a sense rom LBC is the best I've used.
Does the rom need you to flash kernels or radios? I'm not very good with that. Also can anyone send me a link
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sayeed91 said:
Does the rom need you to flash kernels or radios? I'm not very good with that. Also can anyone send me a link
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Look in the development forum, titles LBC mod, see link in my signature, it is suggested that you flash a new radio, but, all instructions are provided within the first post and on the supporting website
You shouldn't really start flashing until you feel reasonably comfortable with the process, so I'd suggest that you spend a day or two day reading the entire thread and the site before you do.
You can then ask any questions regarding anything you are unsure or are un clear about in the rom thread
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You can try virtuous unity too
Try virtuous unity 1.29.0, its pretty stable too, running sense 3.0.
regards,
monk
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Does the rom need you to flash kernels or radios? I'm not very good with that. Also can anyone send me a link
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DO NOT FLASH radio's unless you really need to, we know a lot about the Nand and can recover from almost any error there, but the nvram, radio etc is a different story. A bad radio flash, could mean you end up with a very expensive calculator!
The stock HTC European Baseband (radio) is: 20.28b.30.0805U_38.03.02.11_M. I did not need to change mine when I flashed LBC. Different carriers will have different radio's.
You can flash a Kernel any time after you flash your rom, otherwise the rom flash will simply overwrite your kernel flash. Pick the wrong kernel and it can cause you a lot of problems, although these should be easily recoverable. The only way to learn that, is experience.
As the title suggests, i would like people to share their thoughts and opinions on which sense 3 release built from the new OTA is the best!
most stable?
least/no bugs?
best battery life?
best for daily use?
how does it compare to voidu?
At the moment we have the following releases:
Hyperion ROM V1.0|Sense 3.0|GB 2.3.5][mod UNITY kernel |OC|FFC]
Desire S Official Sense 3.0 - [GRJ90] [2.3.5] OTA 2.10.401.4
Pre-Rooted Saga S HTC Europe 2.10.401.4 odexed/deodexed (GB 2.3.5/Sense 3.0)
Have fun!
EDIT:Sorry, Ignore the Pyramid3D entry in the poll. My mistake!!
VoidU!
I'm afraid that I'm biased and vote for VoidU! Why isn't that included? (I know I know "official") but, it's still sense 3.0 and certainly the slickest, most configurable, bug free ROM that I've come across and certainly remaining my daily driver, until I'm convinced otherwise! (you have to hand it to the RC Mix3d team - with VoidU they have a finished product whereas most of the above ROMS are in the first days, so can only improve - so the future is bright!).
So I'm very keen to watch the results of this poll and also glad to see a sudden influx of recent Sense v3.0 ROM competition.
I even heard a rumour than a new LBC ROM Sense v3.0 ROM may be making an appearance in the future (please don't ask him for ETA's though!).
Hi ben, thanks for your input!
Voidu isn't based on the official release as u say but i will include it in the poll as per your request... the only problem is i can't find a way to edit my poll now?
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Hi ben, thanks for your input!
Voidu isn't based on the official release as u say but i will include it in the poll as per your request... the only problem is i can't find a way to edit my poll now?
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yer..I know through my own personally frustrating head scratching experience that adding a poll to a first post isn't possible once you've created it (we'll unless you're a moderator) so it might be the same for amending an existing one! Never mind!
This morning i performed a full wipe and flashed this ROM:
PreRooted_Saga_S_HTC_Europe_2.10.401.4_deodexed-signed
Completely untouched Official Sense 3 Android 2.3.5
I removed ALL the bloatware + htcloggers.apk and tellhtc.apk with Titanium Backup
Then did my nand...
So far, excellent battery life, excellent performance and not a single bug found!
My favourite so far
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This morning i performed a full wipe and flashed this ROM:
PreRooted_Saga_S_HTC_Europe_2.10.401.4_deodexed-signed
Completely untouched Official Sense 3 Android 2.3.5
I removed ALL the bloatware + htcloggers.apk and tellhtc.apk with Titanium Backup
Then did my nand...
So far, excellent battery life, excellent performance and not a single bug found!
My favourite so far
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Hi i want to go to this rom. i am currently running lbc 0.6.0 with unity v4 kernal. can i just flash this rom as usual or do i need to do some other stuff first. I've already bricked one ds and had htc replace it as they couldn't fix it so a bit nervous about what i can and can't do. Any help would be appreciated.
VoidU is based on a DHD Leak, so it's pretty official. It's the best IMO.
Remove Pyramid3D, as it's not official. It's based on Sensation.
Tried quite a few different ones but I always come back to VR - Virtuous Unity v2.39.0 just works.
Would love to patch in Beats Audio!
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Hi i want to go to this rom. i am currently running lbc 0.6.0 with unity v4 kernal. can i just flash this rom as usual or do i need to do some other stuff first. I've already bricked one ds and had htc replace it as they couldn't fix it so a bit nervous about what i can and can't do. Any help would be appreciated.
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yep, just wipe system data cache and dalvik cache and flash via recovery.
worked flawlessley for me
Rankor Kain said:
Tried quite a few different ones but I always come back to VR - Virtuous Unity v2.39.0 just works.
Would love to patch in Beats Audio!
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there is a patch for beats audio in rom manager, not sure if it works though as i havn't tried yet..
I'll have a look into that. Cheers buddie
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yep, just wipe system data cache and dalvik cache and flash via recovery.
worked flawlessley for me
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would you be able to run me through how to get rid of the bloatware and htc loggers. As in what files to delete and is it all done through titanium backup.
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would you be able to run me through how to get rid of the bloatware and htc loggers. As in what files to delete and is it all done through titanium backup.
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its pretty straight forward, just go into titanium and delete all the stuff u dont want, and u will see htc loggers in there too, just uninstall it.
guys im thinking of finally updating to gingerbread because some apps are requiring that os .... my questions are :
if im rooted can i still just press the update button from the notification menu?
2. should i be doing that ? a lot of posts online complain about this update so is it worth it? could i be better off flashing a gingerbread based custom rom from this website?
3. is there a backup process to make sure i can go back to froyo if the need arises?
thanks
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If you are rooted you should not update the phone using the button. I don't think it will work anyways. If you want stock gingerbread there are plenty on here. In my sig, Juicy has a stable, fast, yet great on battery 2.52 Gingerbread with sense 2.5. It is version R2. There are more advanced sense 3.0 and 3.5 ROMs out there too. Both highly modified and looking like a stock ROM.
okay ... so i will just keep ignoring that button i guess...
thabks for the help
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okay ... so i will just keep ignoring that button i guess...
thabks for the help
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Why? You might as well just put a better rom on there it's a lot better anyway
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guys im thinking of finally updating to gingerbread because some apps are requiring that os .... my questions are :
if im rooted can i still just press the update button from the notification menu?
2. should i be doing that ? a lot of posts online complain about this update so is it worth it? could i be better off flashing a gingerbread based custom rom from this website?
3. is there a backup process to make sure i can go back to froyo if the need arises?
thanks
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The update worked well for me and found no bugs when I did it, but It all depends on what you do with your cell. Custom Roms are all beta versions, that means that they all have bugs but most are very smooth and stable and have many tweaks to play with that you won´t find out in the stock gb update.
If you run the update, you will loose the root access, so you will have to run the hack kit again. You can also flash the rooted version of that RUU that is in the general section under the thread Stock Roms...is the Gene Pole's one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1385016
Make a nandroid backup with the Rom Manager or 4EXT recovery (the one you are using) and in case you don't like the update go can restore it...hope it helps.
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Custom Roms are all beta versions
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Actually, no. Unless you consider a ROM built off of an official RUU as being beta.
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Actually, no. Unless you consider a ROM built off of an official RUU as being beta.
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What I actually meant is that are not offical and bugs are solved on the run as reported by users...I have been using most of the roms in the forum and are awesome...I won´t go back to stock again again, but you have to know what you are doing and what to expect...
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Actually, no. Unless you consider a ROM built off of an official RUU as being beta.
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Actually yes. All roms posted here are considered beta. This is due to the face that every custom rom changes some coding in the OS or kernel. Only non beta roms are stock roms.
Sorry, my understanding of a beta version is one that is still undergoing testing prior to the official release. Since these ROMs will never see an official release, I don't consider the ones made off of an official RUU as beta. Just my opinion.
Hey all,
I'm complete noob about flashing. When I had GB - that was quite simple, but now I'm on last official ICS stock from HTC, and I'm totally angry for this. This rom it's just crap. I want to flash to a custom rom, and I don't know how on ICS, there is any solution? Noob proof? I want to change to some stable, smooth, and maybe non-sense rom? Can some1 help me? Will be very nice, if this rom will have wifi/bt switches in quick settings, and auto sys-updates (ota)
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Hey all,
I'm complete noob about flashing. When I had GB - that was quite simple, but now I'm on last official ICS stock from HTC, and I'm totally angry for this. This rom it's just crap. I want to flash to a custom rom, and I don't know how on ICS, there is any solution? Noob proof? I want to change to some stable, smooth, and maybe non-sense rom? Can some1 help me? Will be very nice, if this rom will have wifi/bt switches in quick settings, and auto sys-updates (ota)
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Hi,
Are you still s-off?
If so,then backup your stuff,superwipe,and install a ROM from HERE
Read the [OP] to see what the ROM is all about.
I never been s-off ;(
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I never been s-off ;(
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Hi,
In which case,head for THIS THREAD
There is only this method? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1614617
J....skdjhf?
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There is only this method? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1614617
J....skdjhf?
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yes, only this method for now.
read it carefully
I'll be able to back to stock if needed? (To send it to service for ex.). It's really needed to change cid? IS there any custom rom with OTA?
Yes you need to change cid, yes you can change back if needed. Try out a few roms, see what you like they all are really great. It's just a matter of personal preference. I'm not understanding what you mean by Rom with ota. Over the air Rom? Or do you
Mean a Rom like the ota update? If so, yes there is. Hope this helps
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Rom that have system updates over the air, and notifications about update like stock rom, u know, i'm entering preferences > about > check updates.
I can't try few roms... This is my only one phone at now, and I really need it to work, that's why I want to change to some better rom than stock, and that's why I can't try few of them. You know - I don't have time to beeing angry to my current ROM, and also no time to try few of them
No with roms you won't get the ota updates , sorry
There are a lot of good stable roms, what exactly are you looking for?
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I'm using beats by grogg Rom, I like it a lot, WiFi hotspot are working great. What is it you don't like about your current Rom and maybe we can recommend one you will like I'm sure there's a Rom here you will be happy with!
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Hm, I don't really know... I like Sense, but maybe clear ICS have better features? If yes - I don't want Sense. I really liked quick settings when on GB rom, now I don't have wifi/bt switches, but I want to. I don't know what's more... I've never had any senseless ROM. But most important - I want ALL functions to be working. Sense 4... ahm, I fall in love with Sense 4
Help me to choose, pls. Battery is important too, and smooth. But I think smooth is very good on most future ROMS
Any1?
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Any1?
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You can get s-off with the juopunutbear method. Which now does not need the htc dev-off, so htc does not know you are tinkering with your phone.
Returning your phone completely to stock can be done, but from what i've read it can be tricky as you must become S-ON again. (however, there is a unbrickable team here).
There is a way to flash with S-ON but it requires HTC DEV unlock, and for you to manually flash the boot.img, and keep the stock kernel. A noob myself i went for the whole S-OFF, lets bring it on experience.
From what I read on a local forum in my country, Ordroid gives you the sense 4 experience. And the developer regularly updates his / her rom.
Then again there is sense 4 from Baadnewz (insertcoin) and many more. A popular sense 3.6 rom is ARHD.
You can flash different kernels to increase your battery life.
As for the vanilla ICS, you can either go for CM9 (respect to Vorbeth) or the AOKP. The latter is based on the cm9 nightlies (i believe). I run such a rom. I love the vanilla looks and the added tweaks.
However, I believe recent nighlies have worse battery life. And there is an audio routing issue. For full reliability you might consisder those sense.
what's vanilla and aokp?
Please help?
I already S-off and rooted my phone. I just wanna know if i can use Official ICS firmware.
Where can i download the official ICS firmware for HTC Desire S?
patr3k said:
I already S-off and rooted my phone. I just wanna know if i can use Official ICS firmware.
Where can i download the official ICS firmware for HTC Desire S?
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Don't do it! It will re-flash the HBOOT, etc. You can get the official ICS through
http://www.htcdev.com/devcenter/downloads
Desire S, version 4.0
Desire S HTC WWE RUU N/A v4.0 404.0 MB 14.01.401.2
Run the RUU up to just before the actual install step, then find the zip package in your temporary files, copy it elsewhere and exit the RUU installer. You can then modify this to have the hboot you want, to protect your S-OFF (either the ENG version 2, or the version starting 7), then put it on the root of your SD card as PG88IMG.zip and reboot to fastboot.
This will still wipe all the data on your phone.
I would strongly suggest you just flash an ICS or JB ROM from xda instead though.
I would strongly suggest you just flash an ICS or JB ROM from xda instead though.
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You mean flash it using custom rom instead?
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You mean flash it using custom rom instead?
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Yes, that's what he's recommending (and I would too)
patr3k said:
I already S-off and rooted my phone. I just wanna know if i can use Official ICS firmware.
Where can i download the official ICS firmware for HTC Desire S?
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You can use it, no problem, but as paulie-uk said, it's better to install custom rom than stick to official software. If you have your bootloader unlocked, than you're ready to go.
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Yes, that's what he's recommending (and I would too)
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You can use it, no problem, but as paulie-uk said, it's better to install custom rom than stick to official software. If you have your bootloader unlocked, than you're ready to go.
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Guys, what custom rom can you recommend? (Less buggy)
Thanks for all the replies.
Any stable JB rom recomended? :fingers-crossed:
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Any stable JB rom recomended? :fingers-crossed:
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Go and read the development threads, choose a couple of ROMs that look good and don't seem to have problems and then try them out.
patr3k said:
Guys, what custom rom can you recommend? (Less buggy)
Thanks for all the replies.
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Any stable JB rom recomended? :fingers-crossed:
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First of all you should check if you have Sony or Hitachi panels - check this thread for instructions: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1943524 If you have Sony panel, then you're ready to go without additional preparations.
You can try blindanddumb's or flinny's CM 10.1-based roms. They still have some minor issues (especially if one has Hitachi screen panel) like problems with led notifications lights, but as a whole they're smooth and stable. Maybe one of the more experienced custom rom users will say something more about those two, or will propose others. Myself, I'm a happy user of bnd CM 10.1
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First of all you should check if you have Sony or Hitachi panels - check this thread for instructions: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1943524 If you have Sony panel, then you're ready to go without additional preparations.
You can try blindanddumb's or flinny's CM 10.1-based roms. They still have some minor issues (especially if one has Hitachi screen panel) like problems with led notifications lights, but as a whole they're smooth and stable. Maybe one of the more experienced custom rom users will say something more about those two, or will propose others. Myself, I'm a happy user of bnd CM 10.1
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I just want to say try some. I'm currently using the JellyFireBeanv2, nice and smooth. This is not a Sense ROM. Just try some, there is always one for you out there.
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Go and read the development threads, choose a couple of ROMs that look good and don't seem to have problems and then try them out.
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Thanks! :good:
Kitke said:
First of all you should check if you have Sony or Hitachi panels - check this thread for instructions: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1943524 If you have Sony panel, then you're ready to go without additional preparations.
You can try blindanddumb's or flinny's CM 10.1-based roms. They still have some minor issues (especially if one has Hitachi screen panel) like problems with led notifications lights, but as a whole they're smooth and stable. Maybe one of the more experienced custom rom users will say something more about those two, or will propose others. Myself, I'm a happy user of bnd CM 10.1
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Thanks mate! What a big help from you! :good:
I also would like to revert to 235 official. I've used pacman 22, changed to fullysamsung 101, sagasation and now pacman 23& this one it rebooted once and drops frames when recording in 720p. What rom u recomend me custom that works flawless and is rooted?
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There is no flawless rom. Try blindndumb cyanogen port. I've been using it for more than two months as my daily driver and except for some minor issues it's very good - fast, stable and with great battery life.