Get non market apps to show in market with update? - General Questions and Answers

Hi, basically what i want to know, is if you can get a non market downloaded app to actually SHOW in the market (so i can be notified of updates etc)
The reason i am asking this is because some developers offer their app free to XDA users, but paid on the market. It's just a bit of an inconvenience not to have it updated when i open the market.
Any thoughts on hwo to do this?

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try out superoneclick. Connect your device in debuging mode. Run SuperOneClick and click the allow non market apps option. I use this with my x10. But when I do update it automaticle bring me to the pay-pal.

Oskar.K said:
try out superoneclick. Connect your device in debuging mode. Run SuperOneClick and click the allow non market apps option. I use this with my x10. But when I do update it automaticle bring me to the pay-pal.
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Doesn't this just let you install non market apps? Because i can already do that with Cyanogenmod.
What i want exactly is apps to show up in the market so i can update it from there

The market uses a server-side database to keep track of what apps you've actually purchased. And I believe client-side it just keeps a running list of what apps you have on your phone. But for purchased apps, the record of the purchase is on the servers. So if you side-load an app that normally costs money on the store, it may recognize that you have the app, but the purchase won't show up.
If it was all client side someone would have come up with a way to do this by now since if it was possible you could trick the store into thinking you've bought pretty much any app you choose.

This depends on the kind of apps you are trying to get notified about.
Market uses server side authentication and lists apps installed on phone using the server database.
If you are trying to update apps that are not available in your region, you can use Market Enabler or Root Toolbox and emulate another region/carrier and get the app. You have to install the app this way and whenever there's an update, you will be prompted but every time you want to update, you will have to change the region.
If you are trying to gets apps that are paid apps in the market and you didn't buy them on the market and you obtained it via other means(including apps like Autostarts which is open source but paid in app allowing you to compile a copy for yourself free of charge), you cannot make the market recognize them. However, you can use App Update Notifier(free app on market) to get notified whenever the app is updated.

nibras_reeza said:
This depends on the kind of apps you are trying to get notified about.
Market uses server side authentication and lists apps installed on phone using the server database.
If you are trying to update apps that are not available in your region, you can use Market Enabler or Root Toolbox and emulate another region/carrier and get the app. You have to install the app this way and whenever there's an update, you will be prompted but every time you want to update, you will have to change the region.
If you are trying to gets apps that are paid apps in the market and you didn't buy them on the market and you obtained it via other means(including apps like Autostarts which is open source but paid in app allowing you to compile a copy for yourself free of charge), you cannot make the market recognize them. However, you can use App Update Notifier(free app on market) to get notified whenever the app is updated.
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*facepalm* Makes perfect sense that it would all be done server side for aunthentication reasons.
I will have a look at that app, cheers

You could also try the client from Appbrain:
appbrain.com/info/getting-started

Found another stand-alone app:
www.androidpit.de/de/android/market/apps/app/de.goddchen.android.appupdate/App-Update-Notifier

As long as the app is available in the market you can, after you have installed the apps just clear the data and cache for the market the reload the market and they will be in your list, but if there pay apps and you haven't paid for them you can't update them.
Black markets will do this for you
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[APP] Apps to Phone, v1 released

I've just released a new application onto the Android Market if anyone would like to try it. I really apreciate your feedback !
The application is "Apps to Phone" and the purpose is to simplify the install process on your phone. In other words the appliction will receive messages from androlicious.com and start the install process.
The steps required are:
1. Download & Install "Apps to Phone" application from Android Market
2. Start the application and connect your phone with Androlicious website
3. From the website go to an application details page and click on "Send To Phone"
The application doesn't install anything without user permission, I find this more safe than other solutions even if this requires an extra step.
(The application only works if you have Android 2.2 or later)
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Tried this, but it just opens the market with the app you select on the site. I guess Auto-Installer is not working. Any ideas?
Pat123 said:
Tried this, but it just opens the market with the app you select on the site. I guess Auto-Installer is not working. Any ideas?
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For the moment this is the main functionality, is just to simplify the install process so you don't have to search the app from the phone. Just go to a website, browse and send apps to phone.
I'm aware of the auto install (like the app from app brain) ...but that is a "hack" not a solution. Google already released some updates and that solution doesn't work anymore.
The auto feature will be included only if that solution is official and supported by the Android API.
thanks for feedback
Okay nice. One more request, probably a long shot but worth asking. I believe 2.2 introduced C2DM which is what is used by these types of apps. Is it possible to use the C2DM API to push apk files on a PC to a phone and auto-install them?
I believe not. Through C2DM it is recommended to send short messages only, like a notification. The application, based on the message received can perform actions, like downloading files from a URL...
The problem with the auto-install is that you need a special permission for installing packages, but that permission is only available for system apps. For the moment only one solution exists for auto-install, and that is to trick the Google Talk service to start the installation...
Ooh okay. Thanks. Good luck for Androlicious and let us know when auto-install feature becomes available

Amazon Market Install Info (without root)

Hey all.
I was able to install the Amazon App Market using adb, so I imagine that Sideload Wonder Machine will work. Sign up for AAM the normal way, then retrieve the apk from your "download" folder and install using adb/SWM.
Once installed, the AAM app should work, and so it will allow you to purchase and download apps. However, it would not install my downloaded apps because of AT&T's [insert swear words] lockdown. The workaround was to mount the phone as a drive, copy the apk files from <sdcard>/Android/data/com.amazon.venezia/cache to my computer, unmount the phone, and then install the apk files with adb. (I imagine the slashes go the other direction if you're on Windows; I use GNU/Linux, so I don't know for sure.)
Do note that removing the AAM app will make the software stop working (or at least it did on my phone).
Yeah removing the App, or even signing out of it, will cause any app downloaded through the Amazon appstore not to run because the drm requires you to be signed in so it can verify. So if you're not signed in, or you remove the appstore, the apps you installed through it are pretty much useless.
On another note, I saw that Amazon and AT&T are "working" on a resolution... it'll be really interesting to see what their workaround is, since AT&T locks down the third-party app installs.
tehgeekguy said:
Yeah removing the App, or even signing out of it, will cause any app downloaded through the Amazon appstore not to run because the drm requires you to be signed in so it can verify. So if you're not signed in, or you remove the appstore, the apps you installed through it are pretty much useless.
On another note, I saw that Amazon and AT&T are "working" on a resolution... it'll be really interesting to see what their workaround is, since AT&T locks down the third-party app installs.
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I am sure the "resolution" would have to involve some form of revenue sharing since AT&T is not going to get involved unless there's monetary gain for them. Whatever it may be, if it involves a software update it will more then likely unroot your phone and reinstall all AT&T bloatware so I'd wait it out until xda community figures out a work around.
I may be giving this a shot. Thanks.

[Q] Restore market apps with new jcase's GB release?

I'm using the latest GB release from jcase and it seems everyone is using TiBU to restore their apps, but I'd like to have Google automatically restore them from the market. Anyone have any suggestions on how to do this?
Thanks.
Well the procedure would be to go to the Market on your phone, and look at My Apps. I believe if it recognizes the updated phone as the same phone, all your downloaded apps will show and/or start updating. If they don't show up in My Apps, you can always sign on the web market. The downloaded apps will be listed there under your account, and you can push them manually... not automatic, but only a few clicks to get them all back.
I went to settings/ applications/ market/ force close and data. Everything restored.
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blackknighti30 said:
I'm using the latest GB release from jcase and it seems everyone is using TiBU to restore their apps, but I'd like to have Google automatically restore them from the market. Anyone have any suggestions on how to do this?
Thanks.
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Depends on how you have your phone setup...
I think its if Settings -> Privacy -> back up my settings... and the other one there are checked, that the apps will auto come back down if you wipe or flash your phone and reset it up with the same ID. (Not always the best option to have enabled when you are wiping your phone because an APP is causing a problem.)
Another alternative... Appbrain Market... if you install it and sync it, it keeps track of your apps. You can use it to remember and trigger installs of all your Market apps. You can also view/edit/copy your lists from your PC.
If you use the Amazon App Store to purchase/install apps, it keeps track of your purchases and Free installs. But remember that those are NOT seen as purchased via Android Market, so you'd need to use Amazon App Store to install those "paid for" apps first, otherwise if you try to install via Android market (like when using Appbrain) you'll be purchasing them again.
I end up using a combo of Appbrain and Amazon's app store.. So after wipe and add my accounts, I install Amazon's app store, and install any purchased(or free app per day) apps from there. Then I install Appbrain to install any Free/Purchased apps from Google Android Market.

Titanium Backup -Market Doctor

I posted this in the Galaxy S2 forums but unfortunately not many replied, im hoping someone here can be of assistance.
Some apps i have on my phone i haven't got via the Android Market, lots ive got have been apk's ive got on XDA,etc,etc, what im wondering is, seen as i didn't get these apps from the market if i linked the selected apps to the market through the market doctor what is that supposed to do?
I have the Paddy Power app and Betfair app which were were initially on the Android market but for some bizzare reason Android market decided no betting apps were to be allowed to took them off the market so i went elsewhere and downloaded them and installed via root explorer, there are a couple of paid apps i also downloaded for free not something i usually do but whoever created these apps was taking the p*ss with the price they were charging so i refuse to pay over the odds for an app, taking all this into consideration what (if any) advantage would i have by linking these to the market and more's to the point considering i didn't get any of these particular apps from the market would the apps in question still link to the market?
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anyone.......??
For apps already removed from the market there's no use forcing a link.
For paid apps if it's not good enough to match its price to you,you still want to use it and want easy updates? :O probably why your question is unanswered..
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consegregate said:
For apps already removed from the market there's no use forcing a link.
For paid apps if it's not good enough to match its price to you,you still want to use it and want easy updates? :O probably why your question is unanswered..
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What about apps though that ive got on XDA and apps like Paddy Power and Betfair which were taken out of the market,can these not be linked to the market?
You cannot link it to market because it does not exist in the market server anymore, it's that simple.
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Market doctor is used when apps you did get in the market don't show up. Nothing more. Link to market is really only useful is you manually unlinked an app.
can i backup all my messages with titanium backup and restore them on another ROM?

Question (solved) play store auto installing apps on all devices

play store auto installing apps on all devices
Whenever I install something on my s22, it will install it on my galaxy tablet.
How can I prevent this.
In Playstore settings change to update by wifi only and disable wifi. I normally keep Playwhore package blocked and firewall blocked unless needed. Once a Playstore paid for app is activated I firewall block it as well if it doesn't need internet access. I avoid Playstore as much as possible and create installable backups for all the apps from Playstore so I never need to use Playstore again when reloading except for paid apps. It streamlines reloads and they go much faster.
I also use more Playstore alternatives now but always scan them first with Virustotal. A Playstore app may be clean when installed only to download it's payload latter as an "update". Another reason I don't allow updates or an internet connect if not needed. Playstore updates can and do ruin once working apps. Tired of that bs.
Thanks for your thoughts.
But this did not ever happen before.
I've always had a Samsung mobile and Samsung tablet and the mobile app never auto-installed on the tablet till now.
I don't want to turn off auto-update because thats not a real fix.
Need to find out why its auto-installing.
I checked playstore on mobile and on tablet and on browser - but theres no mention of auto-install on all devices.
CorruptedSanity said:
Thanks for your thoughts.
But this did not ever happen before.
I've always had a Samsung mobile and Samsung tablet and the mobile app never auto-installed on the tablet till now.
I don't want to turn off auto-update because thats not a real fix.
Need to find out why its auto-installing.
I checked playstore on mobile and on tablet and on browser - but theres no mention of auto-install on all devices.
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You can manually install updates from Playstore which is a wiser way to do it. One of the reasons I can run Pie securely is I use vetted apps, some are 6 yo and I firewall block them. Updates bring trouble far too often. Once a system is running fast, stable and fulfilling its mission updates serve no purpose most of the time. Auto updates bring rude surprises and make troubleshooting much harder in tracking down the offender.
In 2.5 years (that's how old this current load is) I've had no malware but spent a lot of time undoing damage updates have caused including a firmware "upgrade" for my Buds+ that trashed the sound. That pair now needs to be reflashed and it's a pain to do. meh.
If you try unmark one or more of your devices before instalation on the app, did it help?
See the pictures.
Same, annoying feature, as on iPhone. On the other device go to settings/network preferences and disable auto update.
Simply manually periodically check for updates on tablet and it will check and update any apps installed if necessary
Monipeev said:
If you try unmark one or more of your devices before instalation on the app, did it help?
See the pictures.
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that was exactly it!
both devices were checked
many thanks to you!!
raul6 said:
Same, annoying feature, as on iPhone. On the other device go to settings/network preferences and disable auto update.
Simply manually periodically check for updates on tablet and it will check and update any apps installed if necessary
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see above solution

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