Ok after the previous journey with hd2's thermal problems and since i got a new htc sensation, i found myself a little bored until either devs or htc gives us some s-off for our phones. So i've heard of this death grip issue and want to give it a try to find a hardware fix for it. Some of you may know me for the geeky technical approaches, so i'll try to get some stuff working here.
Anyway, i have the Sensation from about 4-5 days. I'm yet to determine the seriousness of this issue and how much wireless transmissions are affected.
After inspecting the device construction, it's simple to assume that the reason for the death grip is an interference between the antenna emissions and the EM interference from the human body (hand).
I'll be conducting a series of measurements using some hardware tools to find out the exact cause. Only after this i can begin to work for a fix.
So far this future fix must comply with these conditions:
1. NOT to void the warranty. The fix have to be removable and the phone brought to it's original condition.
2. More easier and safe then my hd2 reheating thread . The solution must be clear, simple and must make use of generic household materials.
3. The death grip issue must be solved in a satisfactory way so that the fix itself is worth the trouble.
This is the start of a new project, it may take a while for some real results to come and the first thing to be determined is if the issue is really user solvable.
So, wish me luck.. i guess i'll be starting tomorrow and post some pictures/things i find during the process.
Good luck, I'm also tempted to start some experiments. BTW it might be worth having a extra Back cover to due testing with. You can get one from HTC.
well, that's the idea. the method must be non invasive for that back cover and must also present no risk in damaging it.
I was so annoyed by the touchscreen issue I never got round to this one :\
I wanted to test if the problem could be "reduced" by simply adding a strip of aluminium foil along the cover... You can probably come up with something better
Thank you for helping!
Thanks! If you can even slightly improve things, you'd be a god. I love this phone, but the WiFi dying (in landscape) is the one issue that constantly nags. [:
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Thanks! If you can even slightly improve things, you'd be a god. I love this phone, but the WiFi dying (in landscape) is the one issue that constantly nags. [:
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That's funny, mine doesn't die on any orientation about the wifi.
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That's funny, mine doesn't die on any orientation about the wifi.
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I've yet to experience this also...
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Ditto...I haven't experienced this either. *knocks on wood*
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That's funny, mine doesn't die on any orientation about the wifi.
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Well it really depends on where your router is and how strong is the signal... I've tested mine with wall between it dropped significantly and even disconnects, while next to it only a bar or more but return to normal state after a few moments. But it shouldn't do that, and I've got asus wl520-gc router.
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Well it really depends on where your router is and how strong is the signal... I've tested mine with wall between it dropped significantly and even disconnects, while next to it only a bar or more but return to normal state after a few moments. But it shouldn't do that, and I've got asus wl520-gc router.
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That's true but he was saying he looses it in landscape mode.
FOTA reduced the death grip issues for me..
i will be making some physical measurements on how the phone's transceiver produces and handles 2.43 Ghz ISM type signals. At this moment i haven't tested my device for the death grip but like i've said, i have some spare time and want to help on this.
By using an oscilloscope i will try see what's happening to the signal level in real time.
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That's true but he was saying he looses it in landscape mode.
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It's my hand touching the top of the phone when I hold it in landscape. Sorry if there was confusion. Light touches cause dramatic losses in signal on my phone.
Edit: WiFi only.
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Looking forward to results. Godspeed.
I hate to sound like an Apple fanboy but I was not able to replicate this "accidentally."
Now it might have to do with the different frequencies of the Bell verison of phone, or my signal strength.
I watched a video of someone placing the phone flat on their hand and the signal strength completely dropping off. While I was able to drop a bar of cellular signal, it was far from the video.
I did not get any noticeable drop in wifi.
I went to 3 different tmobile stores and had 3 replacement phones. They all had death grip.
also don't think its EM. I lose wifi signal by covering with single sheet of paper.
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I lose wifi signal by covering with single sheet of paper.
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Cover what with a single sheet of paper, the back of the phone? You lost the wifi signal completely? I get no effect by putting a piece of paper on my phone. Never heard of lead paper.
any updates ?
is it possible to solve it with hard cover... i read smowhere that with a silicone one won't solve it.
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It's my hand touching the top of the phone when I hold it in landscape. Sorry if there was confusion. Light touches cause dramatic losses in signal on my phone.
Edit: WiFi only.
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i have the same problem
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Has anyone else noticed the drop in WiFi signal when you cup the phone in your hand? Put the phone in your left hand so your palm is on the left side with your fingers on the right. Watch the WiFi signal tank.
It's not a big deal nor do I know if it affects anything - just a funny observation.
Just confirmed this with WIFI Analyzer. I would lose about ~10 db whenever I cupped the bottom and the second I released it went back to normal. Must mean that the WIFI antenna is on the bottom of the device. Not that it matters much as 10 db is a minimal drop.
Very interesting, when not cupping the device returns to normal. This was with my case off. The second I put my case on my WIFI signal plummeted while not even touching it. I use a silicon case that just wraps around the device. After removing the case the signal shoots back up.
Weird, huh? Mine will drop from four WiFi bars down to one.
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That's crazy. Works everytime without fail. Lucky for me I never hold it like that.
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I experience the same thing, but does not seem to affect performance.
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It's not happening for me. Weird.
I know that the antennas on the TB run through the back cover. If you open the Battery/SD/SIM compartment cover, you will notice some contacts that are in different spots and corresponding contacts on the cover. These are antenna extensions. Thusly, covering the back of the phone will drop your signal pretty good. Try holding it in a gapped grip (fingertips only instead of cupping) or hold it at the bottom (near the kickstand) and it will alleviate it.
Why it attenuates so much when you have a silicon cover on boggles my mind. I have a soft interior and hard edge silicone/plastic two piece case on and maybe a small attenuation of WiFi and Cell signal. One bar max, a few DB in stats. Dropping from full bars to one is crazy for just the cover.
You think cell phone manufacturers would have learned from Apple....
the desire s has this issue really bad. my nexus one does it too. i've been able to cup my phone and drop cellular AND wifi bars on pretty much every phone i've owned, nokia n95, n97, etc. some just have it worse than others so you may not notice it on certain devices. but its always existed.
if you are standing next to your router, than the signal will over power any attenuation you try to impose on the device. so in the same room you wont notice, but far away with weaker signal and you will attenuate for sure.
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You think cell phone manufacturers would have learned from Apple....
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Apple wasnt the first and wont be the last...
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Apple wasnt the first and wont be the last...
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Though they did make one of the biggest errors.
That's true but Apple made Antennuation a household term.... Kinda lol.
Apple had a problem with signal? AT&T, aka A Fee & Fee, had users too dumb to know they were using too much data? It was an iBlame issue. My daily rant quota.
Seriously, though, with internal antennas, this can be an issue. I have not verified if my signal attenuated or not, nor has it affected call quality or data transmission that I am aware of.
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Why it attenuates so much when you have a silicon cover on boggles my mind.
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Silicone cover made in china and full of lead????
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Silicone cover made in china and full of lead????
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lol. But do not make too much fun of them, they may cash in our country's debt..real trouble then.
Now granted this is something that I'm not greatly concerned but as I have been able to replicate it over and over with my phone...
If you hold the phone sideways so the hard-keys are towards your right hand. Now I say the following because people have different grips for their phonez but to emphasize my point that it is possible (the way I held the phone did) to actively see wifi drop. So just as a demonstration while holding the phone in your right hand when you have full wifi bars and 'palm' the 3.5mm jack side in your left hand emphasizing pressure on corner with the audio jack. (Make sure you have full bars when testing)
Now I understand the easy solution would be to flip the phone horizontally the other way. But I'm just curious if someone else had noticed this already?
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lol made me lose two full bars. Good find. It is happening as I type in landscape right now.
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Never fear. It's called attenuation and happens on all phones. They have to put the antennas somewhere, and your body attenuates antenna reception.
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Never fear. It's called attenuation and happens on all phones. They have to put the antennas somewhere, and your body attenuates antenna reception.
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Pfffft I knew that
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strung said:
Never fear. It's called attenuation and happens on all phones. They have to put the antennas somewhere, and your body attenuates antenna reception.
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Yea... I figured that it had to go somewhere lol, but I realized this after getting so damn comfortable with how I held the phone that way. Even which hand the hard-key side of the phone settled in, haha. =X
Agree, it doesn't happen close to the wifi but the weaker the signal yes it will..
But that's expected and happens on all devices and imo doesn't need a thread.
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Agree, it doesn't happen close to the wifi but the weaker the signal yes it will..
But that's expected and happens on all devices and imo doesn't need a thread.
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You learn a little at a time, I guess. Sorry for the apparent redundancy of this thread...
I bought a brand new Sensation 4G 31 days ago, found out it had horrible issues with Wifi (Which is how I make 90% of my calls), and tried to return it (Around a week ago). I was told if I came back another day to see the manager, I wouldn't have to pay the restocking fee (50$) because it was defective, so I did. The second day, I was told that no, I could NOT get the restocking fee revoked and that I HAD TO have the original credit card to return the phone. I was not told that earlier, and it was not in the device return policy. It was impossible to get that card, but I offered to get the card number (They said no), leave the phone with them until I could get the card (A few weeks. They said no), or use the already paid funds to pay for the phone bill (They said no) They told me I had until the 21st to try to return it. I came in today and I find out that no, I had until the 20th to return it. So I try for a replacement because hey, whatever... It's just as defective, but they revoke the restocking fee and let me use a different credit card (some money had to be recharged)
I feel cheated and lied to. The Wifi death grip (Though its more like a touch) is a huge issue for me. It means I can't watch netflix, play games, browse in landscape, or receive/send phone calls (I use internet calling). Yes, I understand there should be constraints when returning a phone and having the same credit card keeps things orderly. But refusing to budge from that position for something that's not in their return policy, telling me to keep trying another day until I'm out of my 30 day return period, and then immediately doing everything when I give up and decide to get a replacement phone? It's unfair.
(Yes, this is a bit of a rant, I'm sorry. I'm going to try to contact the regional manager. I really liked T-Mobile...)
You have to realize though no matter what phone you have if you put your hand over the WiFi antenna the signal will drop. No changing the physics of it, 2.4ghz is not happy with us water sacks lol.
The ordeal they put you through is inexcusable though, definitely complain until they make it right.
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You have to realize though no matter what phone you have if you put your hand over the WiFi antenna the signal will drop. No changing the physics of it, 2.4ghz is not happy with us water sacks lol.
The ordeal they put you through is inexcusable though, definitely complain until they make it right.
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Doesn't the Sensation have the 5 GHz band as well?
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Doesn't the Sensation have the 5 GHz band as well?
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I heard it doesnt, and I haven't been able to connect to the 5 GHz band on my router. Either way, 5 GHz has a very short range and isn't terribly useful unless you're in the same room as the router.
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You have to realize though no matter what phone you have if you put your hand over the WiFi antenna the signal will drop. No changing the physics of it, 2.4ghz is not happy with us water sacks lol.
The ordeal they put you through is inexcusable though, definitely complain until they make it right.
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And yes, that's why the first two attempts were trying to get a refund, not an exchange. When they finally told me that no, you actually can't return it today, I broke down and asked for a replacement hoping it would be better. I don't get wifi even if I'm down the hallway of my router... (15ft, same floor, doors open)
Strange. Lower end HTC phones have it but the Sensation doesn't...I think it might be a software issue.
Anyway, onto the point of the thread. Did you get the back cover exchanged as well when you attempted to exchange the phone? That's the main culprit of the issue. HTC is also giving free replacements for the back cover if you call them.
If you look back a month ago through my history, I posted a video showing my Sensation doesn't suffer from the deathgrip issuevand remains at full bars in the basement and second floorbof my house. It also works outside aswell. The router us on my first floor. Anyway, why don't you try a better router if u can't return it?
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I got an entirely new phone when I replaced it.
And yes, I was looking through old posts about the WiFi deathgrip and saw your posts/videos, jrwingate6, but there were also the people who returned their phone 5 times and still had issues. If it's the phone, it seems to effect a huge batch of them. If it's the router, I've been in hotels and houses and have had issues constantly. The router I currently have is supposed to be strong, and it dropped down an open hallway (I don't know the specs). I'll be on campus after August, where I can buy a router for my room, but will be at the mercy of the WiFi gods anytime I go outside. I bought the phone to call mostly over WiFi, hoping to avoid a cellular plan if I can help it, because the campus is covered in routers.
Sorry to hear that mate....but I hv sensation that too covered with a gel pack cover and I tried all possible grips but I never hv death grip...dt know why...I even followed the death grip video bt still on strength 5....
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Yea, I forgot to mention. I have heard of a gel case fixing the deathgrip grip issues for some. Also, have you set the phone to max wifi performance? Make sure the router is set to its max transmit power as well.
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Xlythe said:
I got an entirely new phone when I replaced it.
And yes, I was looking through old posts about the WiFi deathgrip and saw your posts/videos, jrwingate6, but there were also the people who returned their phone 5 times and still had issues. If it's the phone, it seems to effect a huge batch of them. If it's the router, I've been in hotels and houses and have had issues constantly. The router I currently have is supposed to be strong, and it dropped down an open hallway (I don't know the specs). I'll be on campus after August, where I can buy a router for my room, but will be at the mercy of the WiFi gods anytime I go outside. I bought the phone to call mostly over WiFi, hoping to avoid a cellular plan if I can help it, because the campus is covered in routers.
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Sorry your having so much trouble bro. It sounds like if its not the router than you must have gotten your sensation from a bad batch. My router is downstairs in one corner of the house and my room upstairs in the opposite side of the house and my speed test shows speeds around 10mps. Death grip still a issue, but my N1 had a slight death grip, so I'm used to it.
I bought those rubber cases from a T-Mobile store and it only made the issue worse. It's constantly a bar lower with the case on, and any pressure (even gravity) causes it to lose the remaining 3 bars.
I had a Nexus One since the day it came out and loved that thing. I didn't have any WiFi issues with it, but it started dying on me. Wouldn't charge, couldn't connect it to a PC, volume down button started degrading. Still, for an 18 month phone, it was a champ.
get the tough case-mate, mate. you can grip your phone w/o worrying about signals. no issues here so far.
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get the tough case-mate, mate. you can grip your phone w/o worrying about signals. no issues here so far.
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Have a link, and is there a way to try it before you buy it? And do you have the WiFi deathgrip without it on?
Honestly didn't notice grip issues... But here's the link, and not sure if u can try it. But read reviews
http://www.case-mate.com/HTC-Sensation-Cases/Case-Mate-HTC-Sensation-Tough-Cases.asp
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Have a link, and is there a way to try it before you buy it? And do you have the WiFi deathgrip without it on?
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wow, that case looks really good! its not cheap though but looks good. How does it feel in hand?
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Sorry to hear that mate....but I hv sensation that too covered with a gel pack cover and I tried all possible grips but I never hv death grip...dt know why...I even followed the death grip video bt still on strength 5....
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Hi Lalit Sehgal 21
I am seeing from your post reply, you say you have no deathgrip issues with your htc sensation on which you are using a gel case, can you please confirm that you are 100% sure you are not facing any deathgrip issues with the HTC sensation in regard to the WiFi Signal,
Also please tell me what brand of Gel case are you using for your htc sensation and what is its cost.
thanks your reply in advance
Arun Rajendran
Bangalore
I received my replacement back cover today in hopes that it would resolve my signal strength issues.
It doesn't. My sensation loses signal if I hold it normally. It gets reduced signal from using any case/cover as well. I get 1-2 bars and if I leave it in my pocket at my house, I lose signal all togther.
My father has one and the same issues as well, and my cousin has the same issues.
With other phones, MyTouch 4g, Motorola Cliq, etc, We have 3-4 bars all the time, no matter what.
The antenna on these is poorly designed, and it could be complicated by software/radio configuration.
Just wanted to let people know that getting them to send you a back cover may not solve your issue.
I think I'm going to send it back for service/testing, but I'll bet it passes and they send the phone back. If it only works 10% as well as you think it should, but 10% is 100% of their spec's, then 10% it will be... HTC may have lost a customer..
Have minimal WiFi antenna attenuation, and it hasn't affected my usage, at all. And I mean :::zero::: You will be okay. None of the Sensation handsets have 'better' casings than others. Honest.
you're pretty lucky. considering I haven't had this issue ever since I got my sensation. but its the unbranded one.
Id guess something is wrong with your hardware, inside the phone. I hold my phone funny and still have great reception. Heck, I even put thick lead sheet in the way of the antennas and still had good reception!
Id do an exchange.
Matt
It's not the back. I had a sensation with dust under the screen. Got a warrant replacement (just the front), and now I have the death grip issue.
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Maybe.
I think I'm going to send it out, but if it's all 3 (purchased at different times from different places) then what is the issue? It drops some bars if you hold the phone. Even when you don't it is lower bars than my Motorola cliq)
I'm pissed. If they tell me nothing is wrong, it will be my last HTC.
Uhmm daaa.. Do you read instruction mannual? Dosent read shh... and posting dumb things.. EVERYTHING about anntena is written there.. the operator antenna is at the bottom of the phone! (there are little holes at the back cover) so avoid covering the holes and it should be fine! - Because as you probably noticed the wifi & operator antenna is the little gold plates on inside of the cover... and thats why you get 'death grip' when you cover them... - Basicly 1/3 of the cover WORKS AS AN ANTENNA! So no replacements will fix this.. it is just the way it is!
When I cover the antennas one bar dropes for me, but thats it... Of course when i pull the cover out i almost have no coverage(because no antenna is connected)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26906002
Yes, I have a great idea. Let's have antennas put in the case of the phone, so we have to use crappy little leaf-spring type connectors just to have a connection to the phone. Then, to make it even better, let's have the case made of polycarbonate so it can bend. And to help with even better design, let's make the connectors so thin and crappy that bending them at all stresses them enough to make it not spring back up, and then trying to bend it back will likely snap the connectors. Because we need ideal antenna design, never mind the fact that an antenna is useless when it can't connect to the modem that needs it.
HTC has pulled this idiocy before, it happened with the Desire HD's GPS, it happened with the Sensation's WiFi and touch screen, now it's happening again. It is beyond me why they insist on doing this when Samsung is getting by perfectly fine by just having the antennas sit beneath the case. What happened to plastic being RF transparent? This is probably one of the few things that really riles me up about HTC, simply because they never seem to realize why the Galaxy S2 and S3 are more popular. When they can't even get basic antennas right, how do they expect people to be repeat customers?
EDIT: No, this doesn't affect the phone when everything is fine, but this can be part of the reason why there are wifi issues/general reception problems.
I'm sorry to hear about your experience, but it is probably just you or a software problem. I have played with many H1X's, including 2 of which are my own, and never had the problem you described. Perhaps you have a defective unit?
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I'm sorry to hear about your experience, but it is probably just you or a software problem. I have played with many H1X's, including 2 of which are my own, and never had the problem you described. Perhaps you have a defective unit?
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I don't own an H1X, I have a Desire HD but frequent multiple device forums.
Yes, you may not have a problem, but this design makes it incredibly easy to break Wifi/BT, and any other antennas that are connected to the phone in this manner.
Yes, if the connection breaks, it is a defective unit. My problem is that if you squeeze the back case often enough or have the phone overheat (likely if you have the Tegra 3 variant and use it as an in car GPS) then you will destroy the connection. Designs where the antennas are not in the case will never have this happen unless you somehow physically melt the connection between the antenna and motherboard or it is torn off, both are incredibly unlikely to happen.
It doesn't matter whether your phone has this issue, it is likely to happen and HTC needs to be pressured into changing their designs so this issue never crops up again.
Another whine thread...just what we need. Speak with your money if it bothers you.
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I guess that explains why my first One X had no wifi (could never connect0 and it was that top left glass corner lifted up enough from the device that light came out of the crack.
But guess what? Got another while I wait on my warranty repair (no exchange because no stock).
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Yes, I have a great idea. Let's have antennas put in the case of the phone, so we have to use crappy little leaf-spring type connectors just to have a connection to the phone. Then, to make it even better, let's have the case made of polycarbonate so it can bend. And to help with even better design, let's make the connectors so thin and crappy that bending them at all stresses them enough to make it not spring back up, and then trying to bend it back will likely snap the connectors. Because we need ideal antenna design, never mind the fact that an antenna is useless when it can't connect to the modem that needs it.
HTC has pulled this idiocy before, it happened with the Desire HD's GPS, it happened with the Sensation's WiFi and touch screen, now it's happening again. It is beyond me why they insist on doing this when Samsung is getting by perfectly fine by just having the antennas sit beneath the case. What happened to plastic being RF transparent? This is probably one of the few things that really riles me up about HTC, simply because they never seem to realize why the Galaxy S2 and S3 are more popular. When they can't even get basic antennas right, how do they expect people to be repeat customers?
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The s2 and 3 are more popular not because of any of the reason you have stated.
But in case you're wondering despite HTC being abandoned by "expert" users aka xda members () HTC's customer satisfaction ranking has always been higher than Samsung. Google it.
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Another whine thread...just what we need. Speak with your money if it bothers you.
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LOL
There is no problem with the connectors, and as far as I can tell, touchscreen problems only exist when swapping batteries, and continuously chatting then in the phone. If you use an external charger and swap batteries, there is no problem. So its not the connector, but static buildup from continuously charging dead batteries. Yes it is a problembut goes away when using the phone as intended(charging just one battery per charge cycle).
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There is no problem with the connectors, and as far as I can tell, touchscreen problems only exist when swapping batteries, and continuously chatting then in the phone. If you use an external charger and swap batteries, there is no problem. So its not the connector, but static buildup from continuously charging dead batteries. Yes it is a problembut goes away when using the phone as intended(charging just one battery per charge cycle).
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The problem was the fact that the touchscreen grounding was on a spring that was supposed to touch the phone, and over time if you removed the back cover often enough it would start losing contact.
From the tear down pics there isn't much thats not built right onto the mobo. I have used many android phones, and really enjor the One X, I just think a lot of people don't give the device a chance. I mean I have had a few software issues, but nothing that makes me want to return the phone, it will all get fixed in time.
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From the tear down pics there isn't much thats not built right onto the mobo. I have used many android phones, and really enjor the One X, I just think a lot of people don't give the device a chance. I mean I have had a few software issues, but nothing that makes me want to return the phone, it will all get fixed in time.
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The problem is with the antenna connectors. I would not be so concerned if there was a ribbon cable or something that connected antennas to the motherboard, but I know that the type of design that they use is very easily broken.
"You're holding it wrong" - Steve Jobs
Haven't had any wifi problems with mine
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My connection seems to flicker. It'll be five bars but then out of nowhere I'd lose my connection for like 3 seconds. Very annoying. I have a ht24
Most every HTC phone nowadays has that antenna design; my Rezound also use spring connectors to the seperate backplate antennas. I have pits in my antennas from use, but no significant signal loss thanks to the rigid case design keeping the connections solid.
The relatively flexible case of the HOX really could interfere and needs a different connection method. The battery is non-removable, yet they just stuck with what they knew how to do anyway.
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Most every HTC phone nowadays has that antenna design; my Rezound also use spring connectors to the seperate backplate antennas. I have pits in my antennas from use, but no significant signal loss thanks to the rigid case design keeping the connections solid.
The relatively flexible case of the HOX really could interfere and needs a different connection method. The battery is non-removable, yet they just stuck with what they knew how to do anyway.
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Probably because it's a working, effective design that has been implemented in almost every phone they make. No reason to change it. What's the term... "tried and true".
My old HTC Aria had the most flexible back cover ever, and the connection was fine after over 2 years of non stop service. I'm sure this phone won't have any issues, especially considering it is a unibody design.
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I love reading someone's complaint about a phone only to realize further down in my reading that op doesn't even own the phone. Super fail lol.
On the other hand, my reception has been great. There is even this one crazy spot where I'd never get reception or data connectivity at work and now with this phone it actually works in said location! Love it.
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Complaining about a phone you don't own?
credibility lost right there..
move on.. to your sgs3
wiesman2613 said:
Complaining about a phone you don't own?
credibility lost right there..
move on.. to your sgs3
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Complaining because the last thing I want is a GS3.
You're holding it wrong.
I wish an "engineering" team built the one x, but they used a new "design" team because they wanted it to be stylish. Ponderous. Why worry about the back/shape of a phone when the majority puts it in a case and will never see or feel the back. Build quality should be the driving force, not design. Antennas should be HARD WIRED, period. All these pogo or spring style connectors have issues. I work with point to point wireless links and any connector has loss. 1db loss on a good connector. Spring and pogo are a bad idea and definitely causing too much loss.
I have an Inspire and TFPrime. Two big offenders. I have cleaned and retensioned all three on the inspire and it helped for about 3 mos, but GPS is getting flaky again. Going to HARD WIRE GPS antenna and be done with it. Basically what HTC should have done from the start.
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