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[Q] creating backups

just got my GS4g yesterday, and it's my 1st SP (yay), rooted it with SOC - and I'd like to make a full backup of it's 'out of box' condition ..so I found this Froyo CMW thread and would like to utilize it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1099374
however, it assumes the reader has previous knowledge of wtf they're talkn about..
I read further in the post "I have sent this to Koush as well to have it added to Rom Manager" - so I ran over to market and DL'd Rom Manager, but now I can't find the file ..hell I even googled "I downloaded from android market, where's my file" and no useful results come up ffs xD - so then I find this thread (yay) - but I can't afford to buy an app, here an app, there an app, everywhere an app app - so are there any free root explorer type applications? -ALSO- how do we mount our device as R/W? ..as it seems every single tutorial I come across is ambiguous
anywayz, I'd be really grateful if someone could help me out here..
I'd like to make a full backup of my 'out of box' Froyo, update it to stock 236, make another backup, flash it to Valhalla black 236, make another backup, ect - thanks for the read

KotsChopShop said:
just got my GS4g yesterday, and it's my 1st SP (yay) - and I'd like to make a full backup of it's 'out of box' condition ..so I found this Froyo CMW thread and would like to utilize it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1099374
however, it assumes the reader has previous knowledge of wtf they're talkn about..
I read further in the post "I have sent this to Koush as well to have it added to Rom Manager" - so I ran over to market and DL'd Rom Manager, but now I can't find the file ..hell I even googled "I downloaded from android market, where's my file" and no useful results come up ffs xD ..anywayz, I'd be really grateful if someone could help me out here - I'd like to make a full backup of my 'out of box' Froyo, update it to stock 236, make another backup, flash it to Valhalla black 236, make another backup, ect - thanks for the read
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1. Never use Rom Manager! ever!
2. Root your phone and then make a nandroid backup through recovery then flash whatever you want and make another nandroid backup and so on. There are enough Roms here that you really do not need to worry about a stock back-up but, as always it is good to back up everything. Trust in the THE BIBLE as it is your friend.

thanks for actually reading my post :rollseyes: lol
1] ok.. but I DL'd it, where is it so I can delete it? lol
2] already did, and I already found the bible (thx tho)
the problem is these tutorials and guides are ambiguous, and all of them assume you have prior knowledge of what their talkn about.. pretty much , no, exactly like the last
few statements of your own post "then make a nandroid backup through recovery then flash whatever you want and make another nandroid backup and so on" = lolwut? :/
I can't make a backup because.. well, read my 1st post again lol

KotsChopShop said:
thanks for actually reading my post :rollseyes: lol
1] ok.. but I DL'd it, where is it so I can delete it? lol
2] already did, and I already found the bible (thx tho)
the problem is these tutorials and guides are ambiguous, and all of them assume you have prior knowledge of what their talkn about.. pretty much , no, exactly like the last
few statements of your own post "then make a nandroid backup through recovery then flash whatever you want and make another nandroid backup and so on" = lolwut? :/
I can't make a backup because.. well, read my 1st post again lol
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1. setting/applications/ROM manager/ uninstall
The rest would take a full page post. If I were you I would just go straight to GingerBread and do not worry about trying anything with Froyo. For that go here GB starter pack and follow the well detailed directions and if still confused I will do a step by step for you for GB. The aforementioned guide tells you what to get and where to put it and what to press. The technical knowledge will come in time after dealing with Roms, kernals, flashing, etc. You don't really need to know anything other than what files to use, where to put said files, and what buttons to press and that will get you rooted and Rom'd. Before your rooted and Rom'd you should learn what does what and why and that will take a lot of reading and time but, if your impatient like a lot around here you can always learn after you've rooted and Rom'd your phone.

thanks for your replies swann, underneath my amagad, I do appreciate it lol
ok so.. I DL'd RM last night, but apparently it didn't install because it's nowhere to be found...
it's not in my apps, and idk where DL'd files are stored so I can delete it (it's not on my SD either)
anywayz, before I do anything else, I want to make a backup of my out of box Froyo
(and idgaf if anyone thinks I should skip this part, I still want to do it =)
and in order to do this, I went here --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1099374
but since it doesn't fully explain the how to's, I went here --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1122508
but then I don't have root explorer, and can't afford to pay for a bunch of different apps, therefore, I need to know of a trusted/stable/free alternative - and I also don't know how to "mount my system as R/W"
...and when I google it, nothing helpful comes up.. or is that something indigenous to root explorer? (which wasn't explained, because as I stated, all these so called tutorials are ambiguous)
wait.. is it me or do I seem to be repeating myself? *scratches head* lol
I have all kinds of patience swann, I can do all the research and studying that's needed without qualms - as I know exactly how it is.. I own and operate a forum which specializes in teaching kats how to mod the gta series and how to model in 3d applications.. and we home grow some of the most talented kats the gta modding scene has ever been blessed with ...but that's because all of my tutorials are concise and clear and leave nothing to guess - as are my answers to everyone's questions - so when I ask a question and nobody answers it, but thinks for some reason that they did, I tend to get a little uh.. how should we say.. urhrhr towards them because they're obviously wetoded or some shyt lol
anywayz, assistance would be greatly appreciated..

1. Are you rooted? If not, you will need to do this first.
2. ES file explorer is a good free alternative to root explorer, you will have to go into setting to allow for system files.
3. You would be better off just downloading a stock Froyo Rom and using that as your back-up but...if your wanting to do it your way you will need to be rooted and for that you will have to read because I took my phone out of the box, plugged in USB to the computer and installd GB before even setting the phone up so I am not sure of the process of flashing Froyo or if it even differs from GB. After that I will be happy to help you when you get to point of wanting GB.

KotsChopShop said:
rooted it with SOC
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yes, I am rooted
thank you, I'll have a look for it asap
my plans are this; backup out of box Froyo, install stock/factory 236 update, backup that version of GB, then flash to Valhalla 236 black w/FBis's debloater
the reason I didn't automatically update to Tmo/Kies 236 is because I've read about the bad KJ6 modem causing text send errors as well as gps failures..

Dude fyi, Samsung doesn't make android. All new people see to credit Samsung for android. Google makes Android
Sent from my SGH-T959V using xda premium

uhh weally? lol ..yes, I understand that
but exactly what relevance does that hold with anything I've said thus far? ..was it because I mentioned Kies? - and if so, soeffnwhat.. your post effectively does nothing in it's frivolous existence lol

KotsChopShop said:
yes, I am rooted
thank you, I'll have a look for it asap
my plans are this; backup out of box Froyo, install stock/factory 236 update, backup that version of GB, then flash to Valhalla 236 black w/FBis's debloater
the reason I didn't automatically update to Tmo/Kies 236 is because I've read about the bad KJ6 modem causing text send errors as well as gps failures..
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I believe the problems arose from using the leaked KJ6 items. I have not had any problems using anything related to KJ6 items built from the source. When you get to the GB flashing/Roms and such and have any problems just let me know.

for real? ..ok, I'll back this ish up tonight and [email protected] if need be
edit; welp, I decided to just roll with it and install stock 236 w/o backn up Froyo.. and it's exactly as everyone says, longer text messages and/or messages with images will not send :mutherF*$*ingSuicide:

[TOOL] G2X Cleanup Batch *** WARNING *** WILL FORMAT INTERNAL SD

If you are going to flash and ICS ROM after this tool please make sure to first install a GB then ICS otherwise your SD card will not be accessible. I am trying to find a fix but it has been illusive. This statement will be removed once a fix has been found and OP updated.
Now with CWM Touch!
This method uses NVFLASH to recreate all partitions and formats them, thereby getting rid of the file allocation pointers and hence renders data inaccessible without effort.
Note: I have never seen a file come back to life or its data affect other files without effort on the users part or a temporary glitch once the partitions and pointers have been overwritten. Please post a reply with evidence if you have seen it.
Benefits:
The contents of the zip file can be used to super clean G2X before a new ROM flash. This tool recreates all the partitions in the phone so wipes the pointers to all files (everything). The method it employes has existed from before. The files here will stop short of pushing a ROM, so that you can push your favorite ROM.
Prerequisites:
G2X (Will not work on O2X due to different partition table)
Desire to have a clean install of your favorite ROM
Backup your data
*** WARNING ***​
This tool will wipe both phone internal memory and internal SD card. External SD card content is safe.
Don't say you haven't been warned!
What to do:
Download the attached Zip file.
Take out the battery (assuming you have backed up your data on external SD card, computer or elsewhere), connect the device via USB while holding VOL+ and VOL- together. Don't let go of the volume buttons until the device is recognized.
(I typically leave Device Manager open to see when it shows up in the list under "USB Controllers").
Launch flash.bat, sit back and wait until the process finishes (generally a good idea to open a command prompt, CD to the directory and then run the file).
Unplug, put battery in, reboot into CWM recovery (pushed by this tool) by holding VOL- first, then pressing and holding POWER).
Flash your favorite ROM.
Enjoy!
I made this package because I could not get the bluetooth to work with G2x GB 2.3.3 (and below). The issue was a disconnect problem where both the phone and headset would still think they were connected but in audio would not be routed for a call or media. After this procedure my phone has not had an issue for almost 3 weeks now. I have tried it with two ROMs and 3 different headsets without any issues.
I guess I will not toss this phone after all .
Putting it out there in the hope that it may help others solve some of their issues as well. I suspect bad data stays in places not touched by other methods.
Your comments are most welcome.
[Update]
Klathmon has made an newer version with CWM 5.0.2.8. RP by Klathmon can be found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24768294&postcount=66
I have tested the windows version but linux one is untested. Use at your own risk.
[Update]
Now with CWM Touch!
Thanks to everyone who has contributed on this thread with a drive to positive change! You work/comments/suggestions are very much appreciated.
References:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1248644. This link was the inspiration for the current work.
Link to CWM Touch development thread. I took the image posted there: http://rootzwiki.com/topic/22984-recovery-touch-enabled-cwm-5813/
[EDIT] The zip file should be fixed now. Darn work machine does something to the upload.

was just about to flash the new hellfire rom and saw this tool! will try it out and see how things go
edit: yeah corrupt zip on my end too.

The zip file seems to be corrupt. Could you re-upload plz

worked great on my end, no problems.

khanggle said:
worked great on my end, no problems.
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The real test is how stable your ROM would stay with this method to wipe than any of the other methods.
I guess only time will tell .

wow this method really blaze hellfire much thanks to your( you) & (rom dev)

Ohh I like this. Thank you for sharing .
This thing is faster than nullifier, and I especially like how you don't need to be in CWM to use it. It just seems like doing it in "update mode" would allow better manipulation of the phone's internals.

so this tool DOES format and nullify in addition to recreating the partitions?
deleting and recreating partitions does not remove data. only by writing over existing data can you get rid of it (like nullifier does)

dodgefan67 said:
so this tool DOES format and nullify in addition to recreating the partitions?
deleting and recreating partitions does not remove data. only by writing over existing data can you get rid of it (like nullifier does)
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He states in OP that it doesn't write anything, therefor doesn't "nullify". It formats and partitions.

dodgefan67 said:
so this tool DOES format and nullify in addition to recreating the partitions?
deleting and recreating partitions does not remove data. only by writing over existing data can you get rid of it (like nullifier does)
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Actually you are right. Deleting, recreating and formatting partitions does not get did of the 1s and 0s, so in that sense the data is still there. However the pointers are gone, and hence even though the data is still there it can't be accessed without effort.
What do you think the nand has on it when the device is shipped... I can assure you its not ask zeroes!
Sent from my LG-P999 using XDA

mansa_noob said:
Actually you are right. Deleting, recreating and formatting partitions does not get did of the 1s and 0s, so in that sense the data is still there. However the pointers are gone, and hence even though the data is still there it can't be accessed without effort.
What do you think the nand has on it when the device is shipped... I can assure you its not ask zeroes!
Sent from my LG-P999 using XDA
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Well no, it has a next to worthless version of android Also, the point he was trying to get across is that it would be better for you to present the script for what it is and not try to compare it to other scripts that do something entirely different. You do kind of imply that you accomplish the same thing as the Nullifier script and more, when in fact you simply do something different.
Some may and probably will prefer your script, at least for specific purposes, while others will prefer the Nullifier script.

MWBehr said:
Well no, it has a next to worthless version of android Also, the point he was trying to get across is that it would be better for you to present the script for what it is and not try to compare it to other scripts that do something entirely different. You do kind of imply that you accomplish the same thing as the Nullifier script and more, when in fact you simply do something different.
Some may and probably will prefer your script, at least for specific purposes, while others will prefer the Nullifier script.
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Done. OP updated to reflect. Thanks for clarifying that. It was not my intention to state that this tool does anything any other does, or does not.
I think we are all trying to do the same thing... get rid of the issues when swapping ROMs like _____. I can't seem to think of a good analogy here .

thanks for clarifying the OP, that makes much more sense
and no i wasnt trying to say you were reinenting the wheel, just trying to understand what your tool is actually doing
and also i do understand that it would take effort to get data off any type of storage device once the partition has been erased. i deal with wiping hard drives in a data center all the time. we use a DOD wipe tool that writes 1s and 0s over a drive a minimum of three full times to eradicate the data
but with this tool doing it outside of CWM, it sounds like it may do a better job of it
but i must ask, why do you need to push CWM? what if i have a newer version of it already on my phone?

dodgefan67 said:
but i must ask, why do you need to push CWM? what if i have a newer version of it already on my phone?
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There is no need to push CWM 5.02. As I said in the OP it is a mod of the script found in the reference. In that script it was pushing default recovery. Since the recovery partition is being overwritten as well you will loose existing one and you need a recovery to be able to push a new ROM. Hence the need to push recovery (instead of using super one click).
As long as the recovery is not bigger than the partition that holds it we should be able to push a newer version. However I can't leave it empty or people will look for me with a shotgun (myself included ).

dodgefan67 said:
but i must ask, why do you need to push CWM? what if i have a newer version of it already on my phone?
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I was thinking the same thing but seems easy enough .. add the cwm img to the dir and edit the .cfg file. Hopefully that should get the new CWM flashed

So would it be benefitial or pointless to nullify to clear the data then run this script for a... super clean?
Sent from my LG-P999 using XDA

mansa_noob said:
There is no need to push CWM 5.02. As I said in the OP it is a mod of the script found in the reference. In that script it was pushing default recovery. Since the recovery partition is being overwritten as well you will loose existing one and you need a recovery to be able to push a new ROM. Hence the need to push recovery (instead of using super one click).
As long as the recovery is not bigger than the partition that holds it we should be able to push a newer version. However I can't leave it empty or people will look for me with a shotgun (myself included ).
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ahhhhhh now i understand. my eyes have been opened LOL
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PL0X_Kleiner said:
So would it be benefitial or pointless to nullify to clear the data then run this script for a... super clean?
Sent from my LG-P999 using XDA
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i think it would be pointless unless you are super paranoid

dodgefan67 said:
ahhhhhh now i understand. my eyes have been opened LOL
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i think it would be pointless unless you are super paranoid
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Nobody is twisting any arms here... Use it if you want to, don't if you don't want to.
I saw benefit so posted so that others may benefit as well.
Sent from my LG-P999 using XDA

Ok so question, why are you killing all the data on your internal SD card? Why not just the individual partitions that the phone uses? Your destroying data that don't need to be destroyed before flashing a rom...
Sent from my LG-P999 using xda premium

It does not have to be destroyed. I just haven't had a chance to test without recreating emmc yet.
Next step. Likely tomorrow. Would like to test before release.
Sent from my LG-P999 using XDA
[edit] BTW, I do want to restate that there is some data that needs to be destroyed which is not being taken care of by other methods. I don't believe it is in the emmc, but rather it resides in one of the other partitions. Most methods out there are only working in the /data, /system and /cache domain.
My original problem (bluetooth disconnect) which happens to be a problem for some in the community even now was only completely fixed by this method.

I think I'm close..help me with first recovery please

So I apologize if Im posting in the wrong spot but I noticed yall are still working on the F6...so I figured this made sense...
I thought I knew exactly what I wasdoing but did not....I was lucky enough to find patience enough to read up before flashing...I see the threads posted on how to root, backup, and restore this phone...but all those threads explain it using so0ftware other than I have... Since I made some moves before truly knowing what I was doing...I'd like to just stick wiith what i got for the moment and see if yall, as the experts can guide me down the runway...
Heres What I have so far:
1. I DO have root access
2. I DO have SuperSU and it seems to be working in the sense that it keeps logs...but sometimes it gives me a binary error. (I have NOT et converted SuperSU into a system app...bc im unclear if its necessary after reading a few different threads)
3. I DO have Root Browser' which I use to shuffle things around. (I DO have the /system and /data folders relocated on my external SD)
4. I DO have Titanium Backup which I used to BU my USER APPS/SYSTEM DATA.
5. I DO have Flashify which I also used to BU my STOCK RECOVERY/KERNEL (I cant seem to figure out where that recovery is being default stored though...Ive been searching high and low.
NOTE: Although im happy I have made it this far...I dont wanna go any further until I know exactly what im doing. I fear that I have missed something small. Something that would be a no brainer to you experts.
I'm unclear of storage requirements...I BELIEVE that I must store all my rooted tools on the external bc the goal is to wipe everything NOT on ext SD.
What I THINK I know is that hypothetically since im backed up...or when im 100% certain everything is....I can just click REBOOT TO RECOVERY MODE under the menu using Titanium.
IF I happen to be correct up to that point....I think my next move is using Titanium to put back the things ive stored on my SD.
In my mind that leaves me with the same ROM...but without the fluff...and now the ability to save to ext SD.....
If I underestand right....currently there are no MOD upgrades available due to difficulty of unlocking the bootlag....or something that sounds likethat...
I have ZERO experience with any of this....I hope what I just shared is at least in the ballpark of the right direction..
THANK YOU for any and all help!
I
On a mission to take my LGF6 and make a man outta it!
On a mission to take my LGF6 and make a man outta it!

No one can help me? Am i just completely way off..or am i posting wrong?
On a mission to take my LGF6 and make a man outta it!

System R/O? (in TWRP backup)

I've not noticed it before but using a new recovery for MM and in TWRP backup, there is now the option to select a System R/O partition.
Its not selected by default and I'm sure its not the same as the 'normal' system partition.
Do I need to select this for a full nandroid? Its 3.x Gb so its not small. Or is it something I should never be touching no matter how I flash?

System R/O" option clones the whole partition instead of copying files in partititon.
We do not need that anyway. For nandroid you can leave it unchecked

wolfloestoffel said:
System R/O" option clones the whole partition instead of copying files in partititon.
We do not need that anyway. For nandroid you can leave it unchecked
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You copied one of my previous post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=65896899&postcount=4333

Yes I did. It is a very helpful advice! Why shouldn't I help him with his problem?

wolfloestoffel said:
Yes I did. It is a very helpful advice! Why shouldn't I help him with his problem?
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Plagiarism.
Give credit where it's due or put quotes around what you say so people understand it's not you saying this.
What you did was very rude even though I understand you did not mean to be.

CZ Eddie said:
Plagiarism.
Give credit where it's due or put quotes around what you say so people understand it's not you saying this.
What you did was very rude even though I understand you did not mean to be.
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Yeah, but where does this end? I mean, everything you say was already said by someone. Learnt somewhere, somehow. Should we always include a "this dude here said that" statements, everywhere?
I, hereby renounce any rights on stuff I'd said, or will say, on this forum. Anyone wanting to repeat what I had said can do so freely, and without stating that I was the source. Also, no quotes needed.

_al said:
Yeah, but where does this end? I mean, everything you say was already said by someone. Learnt somewhere, somehow. Should we always include a "this dude here said that" statements, everywhere?
I, hereby renounce any rights on stuff I'd said, or will say, on this forum. Anyone wanting to repeat what I had said can do so freely, and without stating that I was the source. Also, no quotes needed.
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I agree, who cares who said it or did it. It's done and others can now do the same. Move on with your lives people.
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[ROOT]Samsung SM-J120A Galaxy Express 3 / Galaxy J1 2016

Below you will find instructions how to root this device.
The following procedure has been tested up to firmware J120AUCU2APJ2
KNOX should remain 0x0
However you undertake this at your own risk.
Issues:
Wifi passwords not remembered (fix below)
Stock Flashlight app not working.
Model number may be missing from build.prop (fix below)
Instructions
1. Flash the eng boot image.
This is a special boot image normally used by engineers, it allows selinux to be booted in permissive mode with relaxed root restrictions.
Do not replace this image with the stock image after rooting your device or you will possibly soft brick your device.
(See below for how to recover)
ENG_BOOT_J120A_PG1
Download Odin v3.11.1
Reboot Phone in Download Mode (press and hold Home + Power + Volume Down buttons)
Connect phone and wait until you get a blue sign in Odin
Download the ENG_BOOT_J120A_PG1.tar to your PC and add it to AP / PDA in ODIN.
Make sure re-partition is NOT ticked
Click the start button, sit back and wait few minutes
2. Install and run Kingroot:
http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/kingro...-release/kingroot-5-0-5-android-apk-download/
You may need to run Kingroot several times to gain successful root.
3. Install and run SuperSU me to remove Kingroot and convert to SuperSU (not required) :
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...ore&pcampaignid=APPU_1_uzPDVbGyFcGNyATHrqmoCA
Alternative (free) method to replace Kingroot:
Follow Steps 3 to 12.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...ide-how-to-root-tripping-knox-kitkat-t3129484
Don't flash the boot partition with Flashfire, uncheck.
You will also need to flash the system version of SuperSU not EverRoot.
When you get to step 12, don't flash the firmware. Disable EverRoot and just flash this:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/supersu/v2-64-2-66-supersu-mode-t3286120
4. Wifi fix:
modify the line below in /system/build.prop:
ro.securestorage.support=true to false
5. To fix “Unauthorized actions have been detected”
disable 'security log agent'
6. Model number missing fix:
http://www.techgainer.com/change-fake-android-device-model-number-and-brand-name/
Enjoy your rooted device
To recover from a soft brick flash the firmware below.
https://firmwarefile.com/samsung-sm-j120a
FEEDBACK IS APPRECIATED PLEASE.
THANKS.
DONATE ME HERE IF YOU WANT TO BUY ME A BEER OR HIT THE THANKS BUTTON IF I HELPED YOU

Still no TWRP, though, right?

fbueller said:
Still no TWRP, though, right?
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Not possible I'm afraid.

ashyx said:
Not possible I'm afraid.
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As ashyx mentioned in a previous post, Flashfire works. Loaded Xposed for Samsung via the Wa?? version.
spicybeansandricey, to clarify, Wanam is a modified version of Xposed for Samsung phones. Google is my friend, Google is your friend and Google is our friend. If you Googled it, you will find links to the same/similar packages linked by ashyx to get Xposed on Samsung phones. Since I was skimming the articles and successfully installed on a 4" screen, I wasn't sure about the name but only remembered the first 2 letters. In fact, the tutorial I followed was different from ashyx's post and gave no credit to XDA.
As an addendum, Flashfire works great and was able to back up EFS files. I just chose to backup EVERYTHING since I don't know what I will need later. My 128GB sd card cost more than the phone! LOL As for my vacation reading list and Google, I still have to read up on new superuser and root that can survive OTAs and root detection.

shirleys143 said:
Flashfire works. Loaded Xposed for Samsung via the Wa?? version.
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Yeh flash fire is pretty much the next best thing to custom recovery with a few little tricks of its own.

Anyone have a list of garbage that can be safely removed? Even after stripping some of the obvious stuff there's over 4Gb of system stuff.
Can I remove the Samsung stuff like Galaxy Apps and such? I don't want to remove anything that will make it unstable so that I can still reset it back to fresh and begin over, but without the bloat ware of that makes sense?

ViralThread said:
Anyone have a list of garbage that can be safely removed? Even after stripping some of the obvious stuff there's over 4Gb of system stuff.
Can I remove the Samsung stuff like Galaxy Apps and such? I don't want to remove anything that will make it unstable so that I can still reset it back to fresh and begin over, but without the bloat ware of that makes sense?
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No matter how much you remove from system the size will never change, it's rather a pointless exercise. All you're doing is creating unused space.

ashyx said:
Yeh flash fire is pretty much the next best thing to custom recovery with a few little tricks of its own.
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SO i tried to flash xposed via flashfire and got the old "system software not authorized by at&t has been found on your phone..." brick.
How to get xposed on there without bricking?

ashyx said:
No matter how much you remove from system the size will never change, it's rather a pointless exercise. All you're doing is creating unused space.
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So what's the point of rooting? The primary reason was to remove the bloat and recover some usable space on the device. Out of 8GB there's less than 3gb of usable storage on it rendering it mostly useless for anything but a media player or emulator box loading crap off the SDCard.
What a waste.

ViralThread said:
So what's the point of rooting? The primary reason was to remove the bloat and recover some usable space on the device. Out of 8GB there's less than 3gb of usable storage on it rendering it mostly useless for anything but a media player or emulator box loading crap off the SDCard.
What a waste.
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Rooting is about more than debloating. It's about having control over your device.
Why don't you use adoptable storage if you need more space?
You can always move user apps to system to take up the space you've created. There are plenty of apps that can do this such as system app remover. That way not only do you utilise that space but you also free up storage space.

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SO i tried to flash xposed via flashfire and got the old "system software not authorized by at&t has been found on your phone..." brick.
How to get xposed on there without bricking?
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How do you class a message, which is easily removed, as a brick?

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Rooting is about more than debloating. It's about having control over your device.
Why don't you use adoptable storage if you need more space?
You can always move user apps to system to take up the space you've created. There are plenty of apps that can do this such as system app remover. That way not only do you utilise that space but you also free up storage space.
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Adoptable storage is useless. Most of the apps will not see it and refuse to install data there, making it impossible to install anything large on the device or more than a few small apps/games.
I hadn't considered moving installed apps to system space I will give system app removed a glance. Thx

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How do you class a message, which is easily removed, as a brick?
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i just asked how to install xposed on there, who cares about what i feel is a brick or not. a brick, soft or hard is still a brick.
is there a way to get xposed on the j120a without custom recovery? i tried flashfire, maybe my setting were incorrect? do you have a method?
thanks in advance.

spicybeansandricey said:
i just asked how to install xposed on there, who cares about what i feel is a brick or not. a brick, soft or hard is still a brick.
is there a way to get xposed on the j120a without custom recovery? i tried flashfire, maybe my setting were incorrect? do you have a method?
thanks in advance.
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Yes there is, but due to your attitude sort yourself out. I honestly don't know why I bother sometimes with this forum.

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Yes there is, but due to your attitude sort yourself out. I honestly don't know why I bother sometimes with this forum.
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thats kind of harsh considering i just asked for instructions on how to get xposed on my phone. instead of helping you wanted to put me down for not using the word "brick" in a manner thats acceptable to you.
im sorry that we dont agree on semantics. i really have no "attitude" and how one can attribute an attitude to text on a website is debatable at best.
I have no ill-will, malice, or attitude, i had a general question that i was asking about and was looking to someone who looked like they had the answer for it. Normally, i "sort" these things out myself, but i went against my better judgement and asked here...(hence my 2 reply post history.)
if you can help me, i would gladly reward you for your time, via bitcoin, etc; I honestly have no issue other than i dont have the time to sit and look into this stuff like i use to 4-5 years ago. I promise you, i have no sort of attitude. this is just a forum FFS, and above all else, im not an 'ingrate.' i am always appreciative for any help that i receive.
If you could find the will to help me i would greatly appreciate it, otherwise lets not part ways with any ill-will, that's the last thing that i would ever want to happen.
thanks again for your time.

Ok so here's what my experience with system app remover was, and I hope I wasn't sounding rude or unappreciative, Immsimply trying to work towards a certain endpoint solution if possible.
System app remover did not permit me to relocate user apps into system space, in fact it won't let me move any apps as it claims "sdcard share the same disk with os", both in "move to phone" and in "move to sdcard" options.
Is there any reliable way to install apps directly to the external SDCard? Maybe install them to internal storage and then manually move them and symlink them? That wouldn't work for large apps but might allow installation of more smaller apps?
Essentially what you've stated means even the system is on its own "partition" right? So as I remove stuff that's stored in the /system folder, it's freeing space but not space my Android can access for the purpose of installation ?
Is that a proper summary of my situation?
Thanks in advance

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thats kind of harsh considering i just asked for instructions on how to get xposed on my phone. instead of helping you wanted to put me down for not using the word "brick" in a manner thats acceptable to you.
im sorry that we dont agree on semantics. i really have no "attitude" and how one can attribute an attitude to text on a website is debatable at best.
I have no ill-will, malice, or attitude, i had a general question that i was asking about and was looking to someone who looked like they had the answer for it. Normally, i "sort" these things out myself, but i went against my better judgement and asked here...(hence my 2 reply post history.)
if you can help me, i would gladly reward you for your time, via bitcoin, etc; I honestly have no issue other than i dont have the time to sit and look into this stuff like i use to 4-5 years ago. I promise you, i have no sort of attitude. this is just a forum FFS, and above all else, im not an 'ingrate.' i am always appreciative for any help that i receive.
If you could find the will to help me i would greatly appreciate it, otherwise lets not part ways with any ill-will, that's the last thing that i would ever want to happen.
thanks again for your time.
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OK, let's start again. Maybe I mistook your response, it just seemed a little snipey. To get help in the right direction, proper details of what the actual issue is goes a long way to obtaining the solution. Stating a message caused a brick isn't anything I've ever come across before which is why I asked the question? However it seems further to that post you actually meant Xposed caused the brick after you saw that message and rebooted.
So going back to what I previously stated about correct details, here we are 3 unnecessary posts later.
Moving on...to install Xposed you need to ensure you use the wanam build of Xposed.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/unofficial-xposed-samsung-lollipop-t3180960
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OK, let's start again. Maybe I mistook your response, it just seemed a little snipey. To get help in the right direction, proper details of what the actual issue is goes a long way to obtaining the solution. Stating a message caused a brick isn't anything I've ever come across before which is why I asked the question? However it seems further to that post you actually meant Xposed caused the brick after you saw that message and rebooted.
So going back to what I previously stated about correct details, here we are 3 unnecessary posts later.
Moving on...to install Xposed you need to ensure you use the wanam build of Xposed.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/unofficial-xposed-samsung-lollipop-t3180960
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thank you so much!! that was what the "wa???" was in the first few post of this thread that i didnt understand. i sincerely was not trying to come off as pompous, snipey etc; so thank you for helping me. I run a vbulletin forum myself so im no stranger to miscommunication.
I appreciate your help, honestly and sincerely. ill give this a try and be back, my sincerest thanks again.

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Ok so here's what my experience with system app remover was, and I hope I wasn't sounding rude or unappreciative, Immsimply trying to work towards a certain endpoint solution if possible.
System app remover did not permit me to relocate user apps into system space, in fact it won't let me move any apps as it claims "sdcard share the same disk with os", both in "move to phone" and in "move to sdcard" options.
Is there any reliable way to install apps directly to the external SDCard? Maybe install them to internal storage and then manually move them and symlink them? That wouldn't work for large apps but might allow installation of more smaller apps?
Essentially what you've stated means even the system is on its own "partition" right? So as I remove stuff that's stored in the /system folder, it's freeing space but not space my Android can access for the purpose of installation ?
Is that a proper summary of my situation?
Thanks in advance
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Whoops, my bad. That's was the wrong app to suggest. I actually meant this one that DOES move user apps to system. You can see the mistake with the similar names!
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&s...CBowAA&usg=AFQjCNFe58rupOZgD6hS3UfXr-2rkHxsyQ[/url]
By the way I suggest this busybox:
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&s...CB8wAg&usg=AFQjCNGS1LQ2kB8PZ4Y--lzVTOG1SKQWvA

ashyx said:
Whoops, my bad. That's was the wrong app to suggest. I actually meant this one that DOES move user apps to system. You can see the mistake with the similar names!
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&s...CBowAA&usg=AFQjCNFe58rupOZgD6hS3UfXr-2rkHxsyQ[/url]
By the way I suggest this busybox:
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&s...CB8wAg&usg=AFQjCNGS1LQ2kB8PZ4Y--lzVTOG1SKQWvA
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Thanks for the quick response.
I installed /system/app/remover and it seemed to offer a solution. However upon moving few apps to system with the app, it's merely removing them. So more tweaking needed.
Will keep update on progress.
Thanks again
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Is it safe to remove all of the Samsung stuff? Will that break the reset ability?