hi all,
I'm an absolute newcomer to android and smartphones. I bought a droid charge yesterday and I know I want to root it and install a leaner OS that gives me a lot of flexibility and less bloatware. However, I need to learn some basics before I blunder my way into this.
Looking around this forum, the jargon is all greek to me. Is there a good place to start for total noobs like me?
I'd like to learn:
* best and safest methods to root the phone
* what custom rom's are available
* how to ensure I can restore it to factory condition
If there is a FAQ somewhere that goes through the basics, pleas just point me to it.
Thx and apologies if this is redundant with other posts
sauhegan
I am in a similar position as you. Doing a lot of research before I root.
Check out this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1122657
and also browse the development section and in particular,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1107797
no1kung1 said:
I am in a similar position as you. Doing a lot of research before I root.
Check out this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1122657
and also browse the development section and in particular,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1107797
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Thank you, I'll check that out. But I'm looking for something even more basic, if it exists. Like, what is Odin? What is the different between a Rom/Kernel and a Mod? What is a Theme? Are there any catalogues of the custom ROM's that give comparisons? As a professional software eng, I'll be able to get this done once I get the jargon, but I'm way behind the 8-ball here...
Thx
sauhegan said:
Thank you, I'll check that out. But I'm looking for something even more basic, if it exists. Like, what is Odin? What is the different between a Rom/Kernel and a Mod? What is a Theme? Are there any catalogues of the custom ROM's that give comparisons? As a professional software eng, I'll be able to get this done once I get the jargon, but I'm way behind the 8-ball here...
Thx
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Google is a wonderful thing. When you've done at least a little research then ask questions
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danalo1979 said:
Google is a wonderful thing. When you've done at least a little research then ask questions
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That was a somewhat polite "RTFM" message. Thanks.
I'm looking for a FAQ or a beginner's guide. Sitting there googleing dozens of terms is possible, but I'm looking for a beginner's resource. But I do appreciate you pointing out the obvious ;-)
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sauhegan said:
That was a somewhat polite "RTFM" message. Thanks.
I'm looking for a FAQ or a beginner's guide. Sitting there googleing dozens of terms is possible, but I'm looking for a beginner's resource. But I do appreciate you pointing out the obvious ;-)
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Here are a few resources on this site:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Acronyms
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=FAQ
sauhegan said:
I'd like to learn:
* best and safest methods to root the phone
* what custom rom's are available
* how to ensure I can restore it to factory condition
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There's a great guide in the Android Development section of the Charge Forums that'll shed a ton of light on your situation.
1. I find that the easiest way to root your phone is by flashing through Odin. It's basically a one-click root/flash kernel/rom. Even if Odin fails and your phone is soft-bricked you should be able to recover the phone by attempting to flash through Odin again. I've soft-bricked my Charge several times
2. Altered Beast was the first custom ROM available. Now you have GummyCharged, Eclipse, Humble and various GB molds. I think the main four ROMs available are Altered Beast, Gummy, Eclipse and Humble. I may be missing one but I'm usually on top of this crap
3. You should be able to restore it to factory condition by using Odin or Heimdall. I believe there is a Samsung utility that can be used as well. I wouldn't worry too much about restoring it back to stock
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I'm a recent convert from the apple universe to the droid, captivate universe.
I have a little knowledge in programming and was excited to play round with the phone. And yes I know, I know (or don't know) enough to cause problems.
I have a couple of noob questions and just want to make sure of the answers before I do anymore.
Within the first two days of picking up the phone I “rooted” the 2.1 O.S. to see how I could speed the unit up. Few days after that I installed 2.2 OS to see how that would affect the system and what speed increases I would see.
My noob questions are;
Is the original ROM 2.1 still on the phone? And if so what is the best way to back it up.
If not, can I get a copy of it somewhere?
My thought is when AT&T release the actual upgrade I might want to reinstall the original ROM and do their upgrade.
I know I should have started out by backing up but I was excited to start tinkering.
If someone can point me in the right direction I would appreciate it.
Thanks
dhostetter said:
My noob questions are;
Is the original ROM 2.1 still on the phone? And if so what is the best way to back it up.
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Nope.
If not, can I get a copy of it somewhere?
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[STOCK ROM] Odin3 One-Click Downloader and Drivers CAPTIVATE ONLY
My thought is when AT&T release the actual upgrade I might want to reinstall the original ROM and do their upgrade.
I know I should have started out by backing up but I was excited to start tinkering.
If someone can point me in the right direction I would appreciate it.
Thanks
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Welcome to Android. Read, read and read some more.
If u rooted and installed a custom rom, the factory os is gone. The only way to get it back is using the Odin app from ur computer. I don't remember where to get it. I know if u look around in the dev area u will see all the other rom threads and some require to have ur phone back on the original os. They sometimes have a link to Odin.
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Many Thanks!
Awesome Site!!
Hi guys i'm nes on this forum, i'm italian and i have a samsung captivate i897, i also take this opportunity to introduce myself...
Now i expose you the problem:
i have a i897 captivate marked AT&T for this i have a problem to fix the GPS and to install applications outside the market, I would like you to help me to make clean OS from the applications AT & T and put in i897 a i9000 ROM not rooted...please guys help me, and thanks in advance
1. Read the new owners guide.
2. This forum is about learning things by yourself. Don't expect to be spoonfed.
3. Custom ROM always =Rooted mind you.
Sent from my Captivate. Andromeda 3, Onix 2.0.5 @ 1.2Ghz
I read the guide but i'm desperate,do you recommend something? can u post the link of the better rom and kernel that i can use? im noob in android world
I can't recommend anything man. Everything is good.
You have to discover by yourself what suits your needs.
Sent from my Captivate. Andromeda 3, Onix 2.0.5 @ 1.2Ghz
the new user guide (that i wrote) teaches about stickies! and where to find them!
find the stickies in the captivate general, q&a and dev forums they have all the answers you are looking for and way more.
go. read. learn.
this is really basic stuff. At&t does not like you installing apps not from the market "its called side loading" you need to be rooted to fix it and there are pleanty of guides "one click root has an option to enable non market apps" to get a different rom go to the dev sectoin chose a rom and follow the simple directions or for a guide for the entire process http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884364
Assuming what you meant was that you want ATT's crap taken off and a new ROM...
Why would you not want your device rooted? If voiding your warranty is a concern it's fine, there are plenty of methods to return back to stock Eclair/Froyo. And there really isn't a ROM out there that's head and shoulders over the rest, you're going to have to play around and see which one you like the feel of the best. Try out a different ROM every couple of days and see how you like it.
alex1991 said:
Hi guys i'm nes on this forum, i'm italian and i have a samsung captivate i897, i also take this opportunity to introduce myself...
Now i expose you the problem:
i have a i897 captivate marked AT&T for this i have a problem to fix the GPS and to install applications outside the market, I would like you to help me to make clean OS from the applications AT & T and put in i897 a i9000 ROM not rooted...please guys help me, and thanks in advance
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If you are asking someone to help you build a rom well... I don't think that will happen. You can go to samfirmwares.com and download a stock i9000 rom, but without root you, and if you don't know how to build to incorporate the home button and haptic feedback fixes, your phone won't work right. My suggestion is to go to this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=948790
They are all stock i9000 roms with only busybox and root installed. I'm using the stock jvh on my captivate, at the moment, and it works great. You will have to deal with root. It's better to be rooted anyway.
alex1991 said:
Hi guys i'm nes on this forum, i'm italian and i have a samsung captivate i897, i also take this opportunity to introduce myself...
Now i expose you the problem:
i have a i897 captivate marked AT&T for this i have a problem to fix the GPS and to install applications outside the market, I would like you to help me to make clean OS from the applications AT & T and put in i897 a i9000 ROM not rooted...please guys help me, and thanks in advance
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Pm me. I will help u. Proud of my cappy n always ready 2 help a fellow cappy owner.
N as trusselo says, read the new users guide, n google stuff a bit. U will understand something, if not everything. V r there 4 the rest. Don't worry.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA App
ty for the help guys one other thing...after changing the rom i can use kies to update android? if there is a new version i mean
U wont need to use kies. Any update released by Samsung will b atleast 1-2 months late than the ones in this forum. And neways,once u load custom rom, kies wont recognise ur fone. Don't worry v all hate kies,u really don't need it in the least bit.
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mrevankyle said:
this is really basic stuff. At&t does not like you installing apps not from the market "its called side loading" you need to be rooted to fix it
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Only replying to that small part of your post, and correcting you by saying no, you don't need to be rooted to sideload applications. SWM (Sideload Wonder Machine) can do it so long as you have the drivers installed and USB Debugging on. I installed several applications as soon as I got the phone, long before I ever rooted my phone, much less installed a custom ROM on it.
i've been searching this site for days and cannot find any directions on ACTULLY rooting the captivate. I was refered here by many people and still cannot find the simple info on "how to root samsung captivate"
hatchetly_wikked said:
i've been searching this site for days and cannot find any directions on ACTULLY rooting the captivate. I was refered here by many people and still cannot find the simple info on "how to root samsung captivate"
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Really? In your days of searching you never came across an application called superoneclick? I find that hard to believe
Sent from my HTC Vision
I was told to come to this site and search "how to root captivate" and that i would get directions on doing so!!! So please don't be rude and just answer a simple question......""""where can i get a list of steps that need to be taken with the folders that i need to perform the actual function of rooting my phone?????"""" i have offered to pay people to do it and i get a response of """"aww, whats the fun in that do it yourself its easy go to xda-developers and type in that question""""" still can't find that info so................... Can anyone help me without leaving persnickety comments please????????????????????????????
hatchetly_wikked said:
i've been searching this site for days and cannot find any directions on ACTULLY rooting the captivate. I was refered here by many people and still cannot find the simple info on "how to root samsung captivate"
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Why didn't you use google? There are plenty of places that explain how to root that aren't on this site, which is more an "advanced" place anyways(I use that term loosely, but I get the idea that people here assume you know a little about your phone).
Check out MobileTechVideos, the guy who does those had a three-part, in-depth ROM flash set of videos that explain exactly how to use One-Click to Root.
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Christ dude, use some decent punctuation and at least attempt to be succinct in your requests. Freaking out isn't going to get you anywhere.
pirateghost said:
really? In your days of searching you never came across an application called superoneclick? I find that hard to believe
sent from my htc vision
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and no this is the first time that i have heard of superoneclick in the 4 days of searching this site only!!!! How about there be a thread that says """"how to root captivate"""" and put all the info a person needs in that thread????
Superalpaca said:
Why didn't you use google? There are plenty of places that explain how to root that aren't on this site, which is more an "advanced" place anyways(I use that term loosely, but I get the idea that people here assume you know a little about your phone).
Check out MobileTechVideos, the guy who does those had a three-part, in-depth ROM flash set of videos that explain exactly how to use One-Click to Root.
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Christ dude, use some decent punctuation and at least attempt to be succinct in your requests. Freaking out isn't going to get you anywhere.
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i was informed that this is the "place to go" for rooting info & to not google it, and i do know about my phone, that's why i want these useless apps off and to flash cognition!! i've got the cognition part just need the rooting part. how about people list that info instead of saying "phone must be rooted"??? show me how to root and i can do it. what files do i need, where do i get them, where do they go????
i have been all over this site searching the words ""how to root samsung captivate"" how can i make my search more simple and direct than that??
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i have been all over this site searching the words ""how to root samsung captivate"" how can i make my search more simple and direct than that??
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how hard is it to follow the instructions in using SUPERONECLICK?
this isnt rocket science, dude
http://tinyurl.com/3ku3qd7
theres even a freaking video.
derp
Hey pros and newbs, like me lol, I need help rooting, flashing ... etc for my LG g2x. Yes I chose it over the Samsung Galaxy S2 because it looked and felt smoother when i handled both. But any way, can anyone create a step by step tutorial instead of clicking all these links and sending me to different pages and just keep it on one page? I really want to learn! I tried going about it but just worried about bricking my phone. If any one could help it would mean alot to me, the present and future hackers for android! 8)
Go spend some time reading in the development thread, There are already many thread with lots of information.
Start here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1049154
Please READ MORE. People are not as willing to help someone who doesn't not seem like they have read the basics. Also slow down with all the "I'm a NEWB stuff". You are most likely to get flammed. Try to seem more mature and you'll get better results and answers.
Assuming you get G2x with Gingerbread you would...
1. NVFlash ClockworkMod (Do this right & and it will be hard to brick)
2. Flash Rooted Rom of your choice. (Gain root access)
To answer your most likely next few question:
WeaponX for 2.3.3
CM7, EagleBlood, MIUI for 2.3.7
(Personal preferences)
What OS u have on your computer? Also go see what version of android u have. 2.2.2 or 2.3.3. After y answer those questions ill walk you through it.
Sent from my LG-P999 using xda premium
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Hey pros and newbs, like me lol, I need help rooting, flashing ... etc for my LG g2x. Yes I chose it over the Samsung Galaxy S2 because it looked and felt smoother when i handled both. But any way, can anyone create a step by step tutorial instead of clicking all these links and sending me to different pages and just keep it on one page? I really want to learn! I tried going about it but just worried about bricking my phone. If any one could help it would mean alot to me, the present and future hackers for android! 8)
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i like to do it step by step. these people show you how in a video
http://theunlockr.com/category/howto/android_how_tos/lg-g2x-how-tos/
I am a NOOB and I know nothing about how to unlock/ROOT the device
I really want to install the CleanROM but the installation guide is too simple
Can someone tell me how to do this step by step? with picture/youtube?
I know unlocking the device will loose my WARRANTY
So, I don't really want to brick my TF700 due to my noobness..........
Thank you X1000000000000000
noobwow said:
I am a NOOB and I know nothing about how to unlock/ROOT the device
I really want to install the CleanROM but the installation guide is too simple
Can someone tell me how to do this step by step? with picture/youtube?
I know unlocking the device will loose my WARRANTY
So, I don't really want to brick my TF700 due to my noobness..........
Thank you X1000000000000000
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You didn't even look in the Development section before you made this thread or did you (aside from the CleanROM thread)?
Hint: take a look at the pinned/sticky threads.
Wrong place
Switch to Q&A
Ask there
noobwow said:
I am a NOOB and I know nothing about how to unlock/ROOT the device
I really want to install the CleanROM but the installation guide is too simple
Can someone tell me how to do this step by step? with picture/youtube?
I know unlocking the device will loose my WARRANTY
So, I don't really want to brick my TF700 due to my noobness..........
Thank you X1000000000000000
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Check this link out. If you already on JB the latest version, then you just skip section 1 and start with section 2.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1938129
Wrong forum and there are already stickies explaining how to do what you asked. Look and you will find.
buhohitr said:
Check this link out. If you already on JB the latest version, then you just skip section 1 and start with section 2.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1938129
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That's what I used. Couldn't have made it any more simple.
noobwow said:
I am a NOOB [...] but the installation guide is too simple [...]
X1000000000000000
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cmdrdredd said:
That's what I used. Couldn't have made it any more simple.
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We're all on the wrong track here: the OP said the guide was too simple already -- we therefore should set ourselves to the task of making more complicated. Knowing both myself and the rest of you, this should come rather naturally, so what's taking you so long? MAKE IT HARD ALREADY!
J/K -- read the stickies. In my opinion, if you can't do it with all the info provided --which is more than enough --then read and learn a LOT more on the basics of Android before you even attempt this (suggested topic would include at least recoveries, bootloaders, nandroid backups, and, obviously, rooting). You run a significant chance to end up with an expensive paperweight if you don't. If you do not feel comfortable yet, play around with your 700 for a bit, try rooting next (little harm done, little risk involved) and then move on to the heavier stuff.
I thought I was somewhat tech savvy ... not troo however!
In order to flash a ROM which comes as second nature to most Androidians I was at a total loss initially.
Yet with concentration, YouTube, XDA, Google Play and a slowdown of tipping the wineglass I was able to crawl from the sandpit.
This has all lead to a new mountain to climb.
There's a few things I find tough like fastboot for instance and that pesky Titanium Fup , yet I'll absorb those eventually.
Dealing with Android and it's many options has definitely been a reading experience.
Good luck to all who dive in!
No doubt noobwow is struggling to find his thread now since it has been moved. :silly:
Let's hope he makes his way into this forum and recognises it.
sbdags said:
No doubt noobwow is struggling to find his thread now since it has been moved. :silly:
Let's hope he makes his way into this forum and recognises it.
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Golly I'm a noobster and I stumbled on it...har-har-har
sbdags said:
No doubt noobwow is struggling to find his thread now since it has been moved. :silly:
Let's hope he makes his way into this forum and recognises it.
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Probably not until we've had another few days of poking fun at some innocent newbie for a bit. Poor guy still hasn't solved his problem, probably.
ar.............
I found my post!
I just had problem on the "pre-requise" in the installation guide
I have already had JB on my TF700 and I knew I can just start from session 2
but I would appreciate if someone can teach me how to unlock and get the custom recovery
I know unlock tool can be downloaded from ASUS website
But what bother me is the custom recovery
:fingers-crossed:
noobwow said:
ar.............
I found my post!
I just had problem on the "pre-requise" in the installation guide
I have already had JB on my TF700 and I knew I can just start from session 2
but I would appreciate if someone can teach me how to unlock and get the custom recovery
I know unlock tool can be downloaded from ASUS website
But what bother me is the custom recovery
:fingers-crossed:
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go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1795156 to download the unlock apk tool (use second link). Launch the app and just follow the on screen direction, that's it. NOTE: currently Asus is having issue with their server, so the tool will failed. You just keep trying until it works. Once your device is unlock just follow the link and continue with section 2. Remember, after you install custom recovery (TWRP), you just boot into recovery and flash the Cleanrom. Cleanrom already rooted so you don't have to root your device.
Heck if did the ROM flash I'm pretty sure most anyone could figure out how to do it.
Linux\Android is a whole different animal to me so I've been studying...even bought a book about it
buhohitr said:
go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1795156 to download the unlock apk tool (use second link). Launch the app and just follow the on screen direction, that's it. NOTE: currently Asus is having issue with their server, so the tool will failed. You just keep trying until it works. Once your device is unlock just follow the link and continue with section 2. Remember, after you install custom recovery (TWRP), you just boot into recovery and flash the Cleanrom. Cleanrom already rooted so you don't have to root your device.
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Thanks!
Now I am just waiting for my SquarTrade Warranty recieve my amazon receipt and confirm my warranty works.
Also, wanna have someone confirm they cover unlock device.
then i will install the cleanrom.
the stock rom just drive me crazy.
PS. I ordered Surface RT for my little brother.
:highfive:
Maybe you should start with a cheaper toy
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using xda premium
maverickmarc said:
Maybe you should start with a cheaper toy
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using xda premium
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That would've been very sound advice about two to three weeks ago.
Okay, Let me start by saying two things. Yes I'm new to this. And yes I looked in the forums for something similar.
Now, basically I just recently rooted my Samsung Galaxy S 4G. It is Model SGH-T959V, Firmware 2.2.1, Baseband T959VUVKB5, Build FROYO.VUVKB5. There are a few things I was wanting to ask the community.
Is it possible or a good idea to update it to JB, ICS, GB. And if so what are the benefits and procedures to do so?
Secondly, I've been looking into getting some custom roms. So far the only things I have found haven't been comprehensible. They either require a higher firmware version, have no explanation as to what the rom does, or have highly technical steps which are way beyond me. Does anyone have any recommendations as to what would be some good roms? What they do? And the benefits of using them?
If this has all been discussed somewhere else and have just missed it, please feel free to link to the thread and close this one.
ok i see you are new to the concept of flashing and rooting ....etc) you should try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1001759
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hope i helped if i did plz click thanks:good::good::good::good::fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:
Is it possible or a good idea to update it to JB, ICS, GB. And if so what are the benefits and procedures to do so?
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First, you should start here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1470716 Second here http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S/SGH-T959V now you have all the source of instructions and guides to follow all you have to do is take some time to read and search. and now good luck to you and your phone..
Well, as for the Odin thing a lot of people have said it can brick your device, and that's not something wanna do.
As for the other guides, I started it, I got to the point where I'm updated to GB 2.3.6. The rest of the stuff didnt say what it was for, so I was unsure as whether or not to proceed. Are they required for flashing ROMs? Or just extra stuff?
The last one didn't seem to have anything really useful, but I didnt look at every last thing.
And what about useful ROMs? I've looked around online and a lot people recommend Cyanogenmod, although no one has said what it does. I looked at the steps and it seemed over complicated to install for someone new to this stuff.
Are they required for flashing ROMs? Or just extra stuff?
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And what about useful ROMs?
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In this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S/SGH-T959V it will guide you to rest of Custom rom's and kernel's that you must need to use in order to
start flashing custom rom and kernels. the rest is a guide which you can use and it will save you'r time from looking around.. The only rom which is very much stable to our phone are
GB and ICS while Cyanogenmod 10/10.1 are still in Alpha and beta stage..
Yeah, I saw that as I looked through it more. Just a lot of it is way over my head so it's gonna take me a while to get to it
That's right, you will never get lost by following that guide because everything you need to know are already in there.. just take some time to read and you
will be enlightened as you go on the process..
Well, my biggest problem is I keep looking for useful and cool ROMs, but haven't found any so far. So at the moment I can justify to myself to go through all those things just to not have anything to put on it. So far I like the GB look and feel much better than FROYO. I've found a few minor apps here and there, but so far nothing that has required flashing.
Or you can check some of the great ICS rom's we have, here i am going to provide some links of it for you.
1. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1733097
2. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2034855
3. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1730954
4. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1886035
Or some goodness of GB
1. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1669364
2. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1404863
3. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1598561
This are just few of the rom's we have that i personally try and use it by myself, but you can have as much as you like and you can take a look at the development section and hand pick some
of the great rom's courtesy of our great dev's..
Cool, I'll check out those GB ones. Thanx
Good luck and make sure to follow as per OP's instruction of flashing the respective rom's to avoid further problem, u won't get lost as every instructions are provided
for the ease of use and flashing.. and take some time to each and every rom you flash so that you can personally experience the goodness and you can make a choice which rom you think it's best for you..